Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #1

par far wrote:

ultron wrote:Putin says there will be no Russian air strikes unless approved by the UN in other words approved by America.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34387433

Here is the beauty of this, he said "Russia won't" but that not mean the SAA can't carry out air strikes with the help of Russian intelligence. Russia will/is carrying out limited air strikes, there is no need for to carry go heavy bombing, leave that to the SAA Air Force, just train them and equip trem.

There are billions of Muslims. Of these, millions are jihadists. They'll keep pouring into Latakia from Idlib until they take over Latakia. Russians will leave when jihadists get close to Jableh. Already, jihadists are only some 50 km from Jableh. There are too many jihadists. No way to beat them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Civil_War

Russia already did carry strikes so dont worry. Those planes are there fora.reason, and if Su-34's arrived, then you get the hint.

That said, mods should verify who you are.

ultron wrote:

par far wrote:

ultron wrote:Putin says there will be no Russian air strikes unless approved by the UN in other words approved by America.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34387433

Here is the beauty of this, he said "Russia won't" but that not mean the SAA can't carry out air strikes with the help of Russian intelligence. Russia will/is carrying out limited air strikes, there is no need for to carry go heavy bombing, leave that to the SAA Air Force, just train them and equip trem.

There are billions of Muslims. Of these, millions are jihadists. They'll keep pouring into Latakia from Idlib until they take over Latakia. Russians will leave when jihadists get close to Jableh. Already, jihadists are only some 50 km from Jableh. There are too many jihadists. No way to beat them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Civil_War

>millions are jihadists.



Tell them to come fast, one can only wait so long . . . before the fun starts.

ultron wrote:Putin says there will be no Russian air strikes unless approved by the UN in other words approved by America.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34387433

BBC has lied again

Question: Mr President, the United States, France and Australia are actively making airstrikes at ISIS, unsanctioned by the UN Security Council. Has anybody asked us to join in these airstrikes? Especially considering the reports that Russian aircraft are already in Syria.

Vladimir Putin: We did speak about this today: combat aircraft from Australia, France and the United States are dealing missile and bomb attacks not only at ISIS formations on the territory of Iraq, which is technically understandable from the point of view of international law because there was a request from the Iraqi Government.

Regarding Syrian territory, this is illegal; this is also something we spoke about today. There is neither a Security Council resolution on the issue, nor a corresponding request from the official authorities in Damascus. We have discussed this. As for our involvement, we are considering it. We do not rule out anything, but if we do act, this will be in strict compliance with the norms of international law.

Approval by the Syrian government would be enough.

par far wrote:

ultron wrote:Putin says there will be no Russian air strikes unless approved by the UN in other words approved by America.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34387433

Here is the beauty of this, he said "Russia won't" but that not mean the SAA can't carry out air strikes with the help of Russian intelligence. Russia will/is carrying out limited air strikes, there is no need for to carry go heavy bombing, leave that to the SAA Air Force, just train them and equip trem.

RuAF already fried some clowns who tried to shell Latakia base after they landed so that cherry has already been popped...

PapaDragon wrote:RuAF already fried some clowns who tried to shell Latakia base after they landed so that cherry has already been popped...  

A Serb talking big. How about you Serbs get back Yugoslavia, at least Kosovo and Montenegro and stop being a small landlocked country?

PapaDragon wrote:

par far wrote:

ultron wrote:Putin says there will be no Russian air strikes unless approved by the UN in other words approved by America.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34387433

Here is the beauty of this, he said "Russia won't" but that not mean the SAA can't carry out air strikes with the help of Russian intelligence. Russia will/is carrying out limited air strikes, there is no need for to carry go heavy bombing, leave that to the SAA Air Force, just train them and equip trem.

RuAF already fried some clowns who tried to shell Latakia base after they landed so that cherry has already been popped...  

rumors, still SyAAF officialy

A Serb talking big. How about you Serbs get back Yugoslavia, at least Kosovo and Montenegro and stop being a small landlocked country?

no we have it, he is a mentaly retarded troll im reporting him

Akula971 wrote:

ultron wrote:

par far wrote:

ultron wrote:Putin says there will be no Russian air strikes unless approved by the UN in other words approved by America.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34387433

Here is the beauty of this, he said "Russia won't" but that not mean the SAA can't carry out air strikes with the help of Russian intelligence. Russia will/is carrying out limited air strikes, there is no need for to carry go heavy bombing, leave that to the SAA Air Force, just train them and equip trem.

There are billions of Muslims. Of these, millions are jihadists. They'll keep pouring into Latakia from Idlib until they take over Latakia. Russians will leave when jihadists get close to Jableh. Already, jihadists are only some 50 km from Jableh. There are too many jihadists. No way to beat them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Civil_War

>millions are jihadists.



Tell them to come fast, one can only wait so long . . . before the fun starts.

Please, use whole song its far more amusing

ultron wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:RuAF already fried some clowns who tried to shell Latakia base after they landed so that cherry has already been popped...  

A Serb talking big. How about you Serbs get back Yugoslavia, at least Kosovo and Montenegro and stop being a small landlocked country?

Get Yugoslavia what for? So our policeman can be ambushed on every corner in Croatia and Slovenia? Do you have any idea what kind of sick hate people in Croatia and quite a big portion of Bosnia have for Serbs? Coz i know, i had to leave my home for that reason. Montenegro Serbs sold their votes for couple hundred euros to pay electricity bills during referendum, i dont find regaining Montenegro particulary valuable anyways. When its about Kosovo... do you have idea how hard would be such military operation? Without army that is 10 times bigger than Serbian you would just enter slaughterhouse. You need to cut Kosovo from external aid from Albania and Macedonia, which means you need to parachute thousands of men to take borders, and Serbia at this moment has 1, i repeat 1 airworthy AN26 and its resources are due to expire at the end of october i belive.

One does not start war just like that.

I quote from

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/50394

Question: Mr President, the United States, France and Australia are actively making airstrikes at ISIS, unsanctioned by the UN Security Council. Has anybody asked us to join in these airstrikes? Especially considering the reports that Russian aircraft are already in Syria.

Vladimir Putin: We did speak about this today: combat aircraft from Australia, France and the United States are dealing missile and bomb attacks not only at ISIS formations on the territory of Iraq, which is technically understandable from the point of view of international law because there was a request from the Iraqi Government.

Regarding Syrian territory, this is illegal; this is also something we spoke about today. There is neither a Security Council resolution on the issue, nor a corresponding request from the official authorities in Damascus. We have discussed this. As for our involvement, we are considering it. We do not rule out anything, but if we do act, this will be in strict compliance with the norms of international law.


This is basically Putin's way of saying there will be no Russian air strikes in Syria. Such action for sure will be vetoed by the US at the UNSC and Assad is too stubborn to ask for Russian air strikes. Putin is too timid to bomb jihadists in Syria. He never helped ethnic Russians in Donbas, so why would he help Syrians? Makes no sense.

ultron wrote:This is basically Putin's way of saying there will be no Russian air strikes in Syria. Such action for sure will be vetoed by the US at the UNSC and Assad is too stubborn to ask for Russian air strikes. Putin is too timid to bomb jihadists in Syria. He never helped ethnic Russians in Donbas, so why would he help Syrians? Makes no sense.

He would welcome them.

ultron wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:RuAF already fried some clowns who tried to shell Latakia base after they landed so that cherry has already been popped...  

A Serb talking big. How about you Serbs get back Yugoslavia, at least Kosovo and Montenegro and stop being a small landlocked country?

What does this have to do with Syria? Why are you talking nonsense?

ultron wrote:I quote from

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/50394




This is basically Putin's way of saying there will be no Russian air strikes in Syria. Such action for sure will be vetoed by the US at the UNSC and Assad is too stubborn to ask for Russian air strikes. Putin is too timid to bomb jihadists in Syria. He never helped ethnic Russians in Donbas, so why would he help Syrians? Makes no sense.

I must object here.

"Combat aircraft from Australia, France and the United States are dealing missile and bomb attacks not only at ISIS formations on the territory of Iraq, which is technically UNDERSTANDABLE FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF INTERNATIONAL LAW BECAUSE THERE WAS A REQUEST FROM THE IRAQI GOVERMENT. REGARDING SYRIAN TERRITORY ITS ILLEGAL; this is also something we spoke about today. There is neither a Security Council resolution on the issue, nor a corresponding request from the official authorities in Damascus. We have discussed this. As for our involvement, we are CONSIDERING it. We do not rule out anything, but if we do act, this will be in strict compliance with the norms of international law"

This just means this: We wont bomb anything, till we get direct request from Damascus... without such request being published and Security Council being informed about it, any Russian action in Syria in direct combat campagin would be illegal.

ultron wrote:I quote from

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/50394

Question: Mr President, the United States, France and Australia are actively making airstrikes at ISIS, unsanctioned by the UN Security Council. Has anybody asked us to join in these airstrikes? Especially considering the reports that Russian aircraft are already in Syria.

Vladimir Putin: We did speak about this today: combat aircraft from Australia, France and the United States are dealing missile and bomb attacks not only at ISIS formations on the territory of Iraq, which is technically understandable from the point of view of international law because there was a request from the Iraqi Government.

Regarding Syrian territory, this is illegal; this is also something we spoke about today. There is neither a Security Council resolution on the issue, nor a corresponding request from the official authorities in Damascus. We have discussed this. As for our involvement, we are considering it. We do not rule out anything, but if we do act, this will be in strict compliance with the norms of international law.


This is basically Putin's way of saying there will be no Russian air strikes in Syria. Such action for sure will be vetoed by the US at the UNSC and Assad is too stubborn to ask for Russian air strikes. Putin is too timid to bomb jihadists in Syria. He never helped ethnic Russians in Donbas, so why would he help Syrians? Makes no sense.

But Russia is already carrying out air strikes.

SAA got Smerch from Russia. Location is Qardaha.

Militarov wrote:I must object here.

"Combat aircraft from Australia, France and the United States are dealing missile and bomb attacks not only at ISIS formations on the territory of Iraq, which is technically UNDERSTANDABLE FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF INTERNATIONAL LAW BECAUSE THERE WAS A REQUEST FROM THE IRAQI GOVERMENT. REGARDING SYRIAN TERRITORY ITS ILLEGAL; this is also something we spoke about today. There is neither a Security Council resolution on the issue, nor a corresponding request from the official authorities in Damascus. We have discussed this. As for our involvement, we are CONSIDERING it. We do not rule out anything, but if we do act, this will be in strict compliance with the norms of international law"

This just means this: We wont bomb anything, till we get direct request from Damascus... without such request being published and Security Council being informed about it, any Russian action in Syria in direct combat campagin would be illegal.

What exactly are you objecting?

par far wrote:But Russia is already carrying out air strikes.

I disagree. If Russia is doing that, jihadists would have already ran away from Idlib. Jihadists saw what Putin did with Ukraine last year, putting Russian forces on the border and did nothing while Ukraine captured two thirds of Donbas including Mariupol. Jihadists are aware Putin is doing nothing but saber rattling in Latakia. Putin will never do air strikes in Syria without UNSC approval because it would be illegal, and the US will never approve of Russian bombing in Syria.

ultron wrote:

par far wrote:But Russia is already carrying out air strikes.

I disagree. If Russia is doing that, jihadists would have already ran away from Idlib. Jihadists saw what Putin did with Ukraine last year, putting Russian forces on the border and did nothing while Ukraine captured two thirds of Donbas including Mariupol. Jihadists are aware Putin is doing nothing but saber rattling in Latakia. Putin will never do air strikes in Syria without UNSC approval because it would be illegal, and the US will never approve of Russian bombing in Syria.

How the france uk usa go UN?

Today UN the joke

ultron wrote:Putin will never do air strikes in Syria without UNSC approval because it would be illegal, and the US will never approve of Russian bombing in Syria.

Any reason why you ignore what Putin said despite quoting him on that issue?

ExBeobachter1987 wrote:

ultron wrote:Putin will never do air strikes in Syria without UNSC approval because it would be illegal, and the US will never approve of Russian bombing in Syria.

Any reason why you ignore what Putin said despite quoting him on that issue?

Putin will never do air strikes in Syria. He didn't even care about Donbas when Ukraine took two thirds of Donbas including Mariupol. Why would he care about Syria? You can hope every day Putin start air strikes in Syria, but I'm telling you now, don't get your hopes up, because you'll just be disappointed.

Thrn explain the aircrafts then?

sepheronx wrote:Thrn explain the aircrafts then?

Saber rattling to get the west to drop sanctions, or at least to talk to him. That's why he went to UN to speak for the first time since 2005.

And exactly what was it he said at the UN? (Remember, we can counter post your claims, so we need word for word, so dont bother cherry picking and coming to your own conclusion).

sepheronx wrote:And exactly what was it he said at the UN? (Remember, we can counter post your claims, so we need word for word, so dont bother cherry picking and coming to your own conclusion).

He didn't say anything meaningful at UN. He is not experienced at speaking at UN. This is his first speech at UN since 2005. Western leaders like Obama speak at UN every year.