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Well if i had to guess. i counted 28 smokes, which means 30 bomblets.
Which brings us to only two possible conclusions:
RBK-500-375 with x30 AO10SCz filling
To me, it looks like the Su-24 dropped multiple bombs.
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Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #2
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To me, it looks like the Su-24 dropped multiple bombs.
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iraqidabab wrote:I read 6 SU-35 will be sent to Syria, true?
What is the source? Imo they sure as hell will be needed, as just 4 Su-30SM are hard pressed to cover effectively the airspace, a minimum of a dozen interceptors are required imo.
Probably the sweet spot of the VKS detachment would be 12-18 Su-24M-SVP24, 10-12 Su-34s, and 6 Tu-22Ms too! Given the expected ground fight perhaps 18 or even 24 Su-25SM would be indicated, not to mention at least a squadron each of Mi-28N and Ka-52! All covered by a 12-16 Su-30SM/Su-35S and/or Su-27SM.
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mack8 wrote:
What is the source? Imo they sure as hell will be needed, as just 4 Su-30SM are hard pressed to cover effectively the airspace, a minimum of a dozen interceptors are required imo.
Probably the sweet spot of the VKS detachment would be 12-18 Su-24M-SVP24, 10-12 Su-34s, and 6 Tu-22Ms too! Given the expected ground fight perhaps 18 or even 24 Su-25SM would be indicated, not to mention at least a squadron each of Mi-28N and Ka-52! All covered by a 12-16 Su-30SM/Su-35S and/or Su-27SM.
To intercept what? The terrorists have no air force.
http://fortruss.blogspot.com.au/2015/10/russian-bombers-and-isis-are-match-made.htmlExperts say that in Syria such a variety of combat aircraft is not necessary. ISIS does not have their own aircraft, so our fighters Su-27 or MiG-29 are not needed. Drones can be used for the scouting. For carrying out bombing strikes on the terrorists Su-25 and Su-24M front-line bombers are perfect. The sighting-navigation system PNS-24M "Tiger" on the Su-24M allows the pilot the ability to drop to a height of 50 meters and follow the terrain in the automatic mode. It is very difficult to shoot down this plane, especially since it can drop bombs and shoot missiles many miles ahead of the target.
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To intercept what? The terrorists have no air force.
Any american & puppets aircraft trying to interfere with the russian strikes, of course. I think i've read recently that one of the Su-30SM "told" an american A-10 to kindly piss off. Mind you, something on the back of my mind, as the americans are apparently using F-22s there, it's a great chance to measure the Su-30SM's and perhaps Su-35's capabilities to see it.
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Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #2
PapaDragon Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:50 am
I'll just double post this...
https://twitter.com/sbobkov
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I was more researching the news in so called "alternative" online media ,
that is nothing but undercover PRO NATO media..
and by reading the comments senctions the overwhelming majority of people
comments were about of "Propaganda" ," Russia is right and our government is wrong."
Bomb all the terrorist.. the opposition is alqaeda.... Rip independent media.
This video is interesting because it shows the new manipulaiton tactics.. Undercover pro Western Imperialism "alternative media" ..
They said.. "What could putin intentions in Syria be"
The pentagon is concerned because if Russia wanted to Bomb ISIS ,they will join US coalition.
Of course anyone not living in a cave will tell them.. Russia intentions is to fight All terrorist and save Syria and that they don't join US coalition because is a fraud. they don't fighting ISIS but helping them instead to destroy Syria as they did in Lybia and split it in parts.
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Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #2
iraqidabab Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:55 am
mack8 wrote:iraqidabab wrote:I read 6 SU-35 will be sent to Syria, true?
What is the source?
A Russian user on another defense forum, he called it a rumour though so unconfirmed. But yes we could see it, 4 SU-30 aren't enough, some air superiority fighters are needed.
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Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #2
Morpheus Eberhardt Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:55 am
Erk wrote:mack8 wrote:
What is the source? Imo they sure as hell will be needed, as just 4 Su-30SM are hard pressed to cover effectively the airspace, a minimum of a dozen interceptors are required imo.
Probably the sweet spot of the VKS detachment would be 12-18 Su-24M-SVP24, 10-12 Su-34s, and 6 Tu-22Ms too! Given the expected ground fight perhaps 18 or even 24 Su-25SM would be indicated, not to mention at least a squadron each of Mi-28N and Ka-52! All covered by a 12-16 Su-30SM/Su-35S and/or Su-27SM.
To intercept what? The terrorists have no air force.
http://fortruss.blogspot.com.au/2015/10/russian-bombers-and-isis-are-match-made.htmlExperts say that in Syria such a variety of combat aircraft is not necessary. ISIS does not have their own aircraft, so our fighters Su-27 or MiG-29 are not needed. Drones can be used for the scouting. For carrying out bombing strikes on the terrorists Su-25 and Su-24M front-line bombers are perfect. The sighting-navigation system PNS-24M "Tiger" on the Su-24M allows the pilot the ability to drop to a height of 50 meters and follow the terrain in the automatic mode. It is very difficult to shoot down this plane, especially since it can drop bombs and shoot missiles many miles ahead of the target.
https://www.russiadefence.net/t4532p435-russian-military-involvement-and-aid-to-syria-2#125270
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Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:Erk wrote:mack8 wrote:
What is the source? Imo they sure as hell will be needed, as just 4 Su-30SM are hard pressed to cover effectively the airspace, a minimum of a dozen interceptors are required imo.
Probably the sweet spot of the VKS detachment would be 12-18 Su-24M-SVP24, 10-12 Su-34s, and 6 Tu-22Ms too! Given the expected ground fight perhaps 18 or even 24 Su-25SM would be indicated, not to mention at least a squadron each of Mi-28N and Ka-52! All covered by a 12-16 Su-30SM/Su-35S and/or Su-27SM.
To intercept what? The terrorists have no air force.
http://fortruss.blogspot.com.au/2015/10/russian-bombers-and-isis-are-match-made.htmlExperts say that in Syria such a variety of combat aircraft is not necessary. ISIS does not have their own aircraft, so our fighters Su-27 or MiG-29 are not needed. Drones can be used for the scouting. For carrying out bombing strikes on the terrorists Su-25 and Su-24M front-line bombers are perfect. The sighting-navigation system PNS-24M "Tiger" on the Su-24M allows the pilot the ability to drop to a height of 50 meters and follow the terrain in the automatic mode. It is very difficult to shoot down this plane, especially since it can drop bombs and shoot missiles many miles ahead of the target.
https://www.russiadefence.net/t4532p435-russian-military-involvement-and-aid-to-syria-2#125270
Yes I have already read that.
Su-30SM are multi-role aircraft. What exactly are they being used for in this Syrian conflict?
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Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #2
Morpheus Eberhardt Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:20 am
Erk wrote:
Yes I have already read that.
Su-30SM are multi-role aircraft. What exactly are they being used for in this Syrian conflict?
There is a video clip in the post, originally posted by Militarov. It shows the Su-30SMs with their air-to-air weapon load.
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PapaDragon wrote:
I'll just double post this...
https://twitter.com/sbobkov
Good one
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So far I know this :
Su 24s and Su 34s are bombing using the 500 KG Sat guided bombs
Mi 24s are providing perimeter security.
Su 30s are doing bomb runs too.
Mi 8s are doing psyops - dropping pamphlets
I would like to know what role are the Su 25s (saw them flying around and taking off with cluster munition one day), Ka 52s (not sure if they are there) / Ka 27s.
The VKS is doing its job rather well, not its all eyes on SAA to keep up with the VKS and start the Daesh slaughter.
Su 24s and Su 34s are bombing using the 500 KG Sat guided bombs
Mi 24s are providing perimeter security.
Su 30s are doing bomb runs too.
Mi 8s are doing psyops - dropping pamphlets
I would like to know what role are the Su 25s (saw them flying around and taking off with cluster munition one day), Ka 52s (not sure if they are there) / Ka 27s.
The VKS is doing its job rather well, not its all eyes on SAA to keep up with the VKS and start the Daesh slaughter.
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I highly doubt Su-35's but I wouldn't put past the idea of more Su-30SM's being sent as they are more airsuperiority than ground attack aircrafts but have the ability to effectively strike the ground targets. Also, this could be good opportunity for MiG-29M2's to be used but that wont happen. But anyway, yeah, more Su-30SM's (even if it is 4 more) would be quite ideal.
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magnumcromagnon Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:39 am
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Is that a casing for the RGB bomblettes?
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magnumcromagnon Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:56 am
sepheronx wrote:Is that a casing for the RGB bomblettes?
I think so.
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Erk wrote:
Yes I have already read that.
Su-30SM are multi-role aircraft. What exactly are they being used for in this Syrian conflict?
As people explained to you already..
Russia needs Air supremacy planes ..as a deterrent to NATO and Gulf allies coalitions bombing Syria.. Why would anyone need a gun in a zone everyone wants to kill you? thats the question you asked.
Russia needs to be prepared to any confrontation with NATO ,better to have them and not need them ,than not.. Is very likely that Russia will be forced to kick US/Gulf states from Syria airspace when Syrian army start retaking more and more cities.. because they cannot be allowed to fly over Syrian Army positions. US already don't deny wants to overthrow Assad..
so the confrontaion between Russia and US is a matter of days or weeks the more Syrian army advance and recapture lands.... already Russia intercepted Israeli planes trying to get close to Latakkia..And NATO can supply with old planes ISIS pilots trainned by them..and later claim the plane were captured from Assad airforce. Right now US and its coalition are on a proxy full scale war against Syria.Russia and allies.. and Russia needs to be prepared for anything..
That is a limited air fight between US coalition and Russia.. with planes shut down.
Without show of force of Russia the west will not behave and respect Syria airspace.
In fact i think Russia needs at least a dozen of Su-30sm.. there.. to escort every plane in case
any US/Coalition happy trigger choose to attack Russia.
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sepheronx wrote:Is that a casing for the RGB bomblettes?
Those were not dropped from any Russian or Syrian plane.
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magnumcromagnon Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:22 am
Secret weapon against IS-SHAM...Apple juice:
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more news... from witness this time..
But also there is some reports of major rebelions in ISIS controlled zones..
Civilians that are hostage fighting back.. using even theie cars and driving over the militants. lol
No idea if true.. but will be awesome to see a video of that if it is..
So if the last info true.. it seems that Russia bombing to Syria have even
raised the morale of citizens in syria hostage of ISIS and now fighting back..with any
thing they have. killing ISIS with their own hands..
by @Rus.Lang at syper
Insight from friends living in south Russia:
Many trains, not even hiding with tanks\apc\trucks in desert coloring day and night passing in direction of Black Sea. I don't know what is it, ground operation, or help with equipment for SAA? Anyway, i guess there still will be surprises.
But also there is some reports of major rebelions in ISIS controlled zones..
Civilians that are hostage fighting back.. using even theie cars and driving over the militants. lol
No idea if true.. but will be awesome to see a video of that if it is..
rRinglerum 8 hours ago
LOL GOOD. People in TOWN and CITY'S are rebelling also. THEY ARE TAKING THEIR HOME RIFLES AND SNIPPING ISIS SOLDIERS ON THE STREETS, THEIR RUNNING THEM OVER WITH THEIR CARS. They are ambushing them on the streets and kill them and letting women put the final death blow on them to insure their trip to hell. GREAT. God Bless Russia.
So if the last info true.. it seems that Russia bombing to Syria have even
raised the morale of citizens in syria hostage of ISIS and now fighting back..with any
thing they have. killing ISIS with their own hands..
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magnumcromagnon wrote:
Looks more like some MRLS munition
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Cyberspec wrote:magnumcromagnon wrote:
Looks more like some MRLS munition
I belive its one of the BM-30 rocket derivates. Tho they reported this as "unexploded Russian bomb".
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Zivo wrote:
Well if i had to guess. i counted 28 smokes, which means 30 bomblets.
Which brings us to only two possible conclusions:
RBK-500-375 with x30 AO10SCz filling
To me, it looks like the Su-24 dropped multiple bombs.
Too small explosions to be separated warheads of significant yield.
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"Over the last 48 hours, the Russian Air Force has targeted the Islamic State of Iraq and Al-Sham (ISIS) with relentless airstrikes above the provincial capital of the Al-Raqqa Governorate and the terrorist group’s stronghold inside the Deir Hafer Plains in the Aleppo Governorate’s eastern countryside.
On Sunday morning, the Russian Air Force struck ISIS again with a flurry of airstrikes above the Tabaqa Military Airport and the Tabaqa National Hospital, destroying another weapons depot belonging to the terrorist located inside the storage facility that is situated to the north of the military barracks. Meanwhile, to the east of the Al-Raqqa Governorate, the Russian Air Force propelled the Syrian Arab Army’s “Cheetah Forces” into the village of ‘Ayn Sabil near the Kuweries Military Airport after repeated airstrikes along the Deir Hafer Highway; specifically, the Thermal Plant that has been turned into an ISIS base.
Fierce firefights are still ongoing between the Syrian Armed Forces and ISIS at the village of ‘Ayn Sabil; this battle has recently intensified with the arrival of the Syrian Arab Army’s Cheetah Forces and the National Defense Forces (NDF) to the Al-Safeera District in east Aleppo. According to a military source in the Aleppo Governorate, the Russian airstrikes have killed over 75 terrorists in the last 48 hours, as they continue this massive aerial campaign in northern Syria. The terrorist group has been immobile in northern Syria as of late; this is a direct result of the Russian Air Force’s prevalent airstrikes that are hitting any ISIS convoy making their way across the vast desert highways around the country."
Source: http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/russian-air-force-strikes-isis-in-al-raqqa-and-east-aleppo-terrorists-suffer-heavy-casualties/
On Sunday morning, the Russian Air Force struck ISIS again with a flurry of airstrikes above the Tabaqa Military Airport and the Tabaqa National Hospital, destroying another weapons depot belonging to the terrorist located inside the storage facility that is situated to the north of the military barracks. Meanwhile, to the east of the Al-Raqqa Governorate, the Russian Air Force propelled the Syrian Arab Army’s “Cheetah Forces” into the village of ‘Ayn Sabil near the Kuweries Military Airport after repeated airstrikes along the Deir Hafer Highway; specifically, the Thermal Plant that has been turned into an ISIS base.
Fierce firefights are still ongoing between the Syrian Armed Forces and ISIS at the village of ‘Ayn Sabil; this battle has recently intensified with the arrival of the Syrian Arab Army’s Cheetah Forces and the National Defense Forces (NDF) to the Al-Safeera District in east Aleppo. According to a military source in the Aleppo Governorate, the Russian airstrikes have killed over 75 terrorists in the last 48 hours, as they continue this massive aerial campaign in northern Syria. The terrorist group has been immobile in northern Syria as of late; this is a direct result of the Russian Air Force’s prevalent airstrikes that are hitting any ISIS convoy making their way across the vast desert highways around the country."
Source: http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/russian-air-force-strikes-isis-in-al-raqqa-and-east-aleppo-terrorists-suffer-heavy-casualties/
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