Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #3

"Another Russian drone shot down (emm...where is the damage O.o), this time by rebels in Qarassi S. Aleppo Syria"


Source: https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/655749399725797376

That bad propaganda "shot down".

Russia should troll those terrorists by fitting one of such drones with 2-4kg C4 and fly them over their territory, let it fly out and consume entire fuel and crash land as soon it detects someone touching it BOOM.

Anyone now if Ka-52 will be deployed? Ka-52 has night vision and can attack at night which would be much safer.

Werewolf wrote:That bad propaganda "shot down".

Russia should troll those terrorists by fitting one of such drones with 2-4kg C4 and fly them over their territory, let it fly out and consume entire fuel and crash land as soon it detects someone touching it BOOM.

Land them safely with parachute and then use pressure fuse

ultron wrote:Anyone now if Ka-52 will be deployed? Ka-52 has night vision and can attack at night which would be much safer.

What kind of question is this? Are we officers from the Russian MOD? Even if we were, do you honestly think we'd tell you? So stop asking idiotic questions or ask questions that people on this forum would know based on what the media report.

ultron wrote:Anyone now if Ka-52 will be deployed? Ka-52 has night vision and can attack at night which would be much safer.

Why KA52? Mi28N also has night combat capabilities, and some reports say they did come to Syria however no more info since.

Militarov wrote:

ultron wrote:Anyone now if Ka-52 will be deployed? Ka-52 has night vision and can attack at night which would be much safer.

Why KA52? Mi28N also has night combat capabilities, and some reports say they did come to Syria however no more info since.

Mi-35M/PM would be the best to do the jobs there, lower costs a good oportunity to put pressure on Mil since they were quite lazy/occupied with Arbalet, now let them push for Vitebsk on Hinds.

Werewolf wrote:

Militarov wrote:

ultron wrote:Anyone now if Ka-52 will be deployed? Ka-52 has night vision and can attack at night which would be much safer.

Why KA52? Mi28N also has night combat capabilities, and some reports say they did come to Syria however no more info since.

Mi-35M/PM would be the best to do the jobs there, lower costs a good oportunity to put pressure on Mil since they were quite lazy/occupied with Arbalet, now let them push for Vitebsk on Hinds.

Yeah sure Mi35M is also legit platform. I just pointed out that KA52 is not only night combat capable helicopter in Russian service.

Militarov wrote:

Werewolf wrote:

Militarov wrote:

ultron wrote:Anyone now if Ka-52 will be deployed? Ka-52 has night vision and can attack at night which would be much safer.

Why KA52? Mi28N also has night combat capabilities, and some reports say they did come to Syria however no more info since.

Mi-35M/PM would be the best to do the jobs there, lower costs a good oportunity to put pressure on Mil since they were quite lazy/occupied with Arbalet, now let them push for Vitebsk on Hinds.

Yeah sure Mi35M is also legit platform. I just pointed out that KA52 is not only night combat capable helicopter in Russian service.

Ka-52 is tank hunter.

Also, using Ka52 on these clowns would be same as pulling trailer of pig manure with Mercedes Benz...

Helicopters should NEVER EVER fly over enemy towns or cities in broad daylight. Helicopters should ONLY be used in the close air support role directly above or behind friendly ground forces where they target enemy hard points called in from friendly ground forces. This is bad tactics and very very dangerous and could easily result in the loss of a helicopter and Russian pilots. The sooner the tactics change, the better.

Have you possibly considered that those might be SYRIAN hinds?

AFAIK as I know, the only Russian Hinds are those patrolling the airbase.



But always nice to know there are internet experten on here, that can instantly analyze the situation through one perspective, and come up with criticism.

People like you make me laugh, ultron.

Official map of Russian ministry of defence for Syria

So apparently there'll be the largest NATO exercise since the psuedo-ending of the Cold War to be conducted on October 26th, 2015 within the Mediterranean, called Trident Juncture 2015. Rumor has is that NATO will use that as a cover to disguise for other operations in Syria...maybe a strategic re-supply of mercenaries, and weapon supplies.

x_54_u43 wrote:Have you possibly considered that those might be SYRIAN hinds?

AFAIK as I know, the only Russian Hinds are those patrolling the airbase.



But always nice to know there are internet experten on here, that can instantly analyze the situation through one perspective, and come up with criticism.

People like you make me laugh, ultron.

Syrian Hinds don't work anymore plus Syrian Hinds never worked in tandem or in packs. They only worked solo.

magnumcromagnon wrote:So apparently there'll be the largest NATO exercise since the psuedo-ending of the Cold War to be conducted on October 26th, 2015 within the Mediterranean, called Trident Juncture 2015. Rumor has is that NATO will use that as a cover to disguise for other operations in Syria...maybe a strategic re-supply of mercenaries, and weapon supplies.

In addition to this post, apparently they'll be testing the missile shield around the same time-frame (late October). This doesn't bode well.

US & allies to test missile defense system in Europe for first time - media

ultron wrote:Helicopters should NEVER EVER fly over enemy towns or cities in broad daylight. Helicopters should ONLY be used in the close air support role directly above or behind friendly ground forces where they target enemy hard points called in from friendly ground forces. This is bad tactics and very very dangerous and could easily result in the loss of a helicopter and Russian pilots. The sooner the tactics change, the better.

You people have really hard understanding or grasp of how to use helicopters in such target rich environment. The american propaganda way of engagement everything with a hellfire for PR purposes so they can replay the same scene day in day out to jerk off how Accurate their weapons are is not going to win you the battle. Go ahead point me out how american tactics have won one of their wars? They have always lost and it was bombardment runs that have cleared the ground not Apaches hellfires.

magnumcromagnon wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:So apparently there'll be the largest NATO exercise since the psuedo-ending of the Cold War to be conducted on October 26th, 2015 within the Mediterranean, called Trident Juncture 2015. Rumor has is that NATO will use that as a cover to disguise for other operations in Syria...maybe a strategic re-supply of mercenaries, and weapon supplies.

In addition to this post, apparently they'll be testing the missile shield around the same time-frame (late October). This doesn't bode well.

US & allies to test missile defense system in Europe for first time - media

Meh. We are already aware of the missile shields performans in Saud. As well, this is prime opportunity fir Russian systems to monitor its use. Just an exercise. If they try anything in Syria, Russia may provide cover while Syrian airforce can intervene and force them out. US wont be that stupid to shoot them down when they are already illegaly in Syria.

Good to know. See magnum? No worries as I said. And the ABM shield test will still be good for Russia knowledge. The US shows its hands way too early.

ultron wrote:Helicopters should NEVER EVER fly over enemy towns or cities in broad daylight. Helicopters should ONLY be used in the close air support role directly above or behind friendly ground forces where they target enemy hard points called in from friendly ground forces. This is bad tactics and very very dangerous and could easily result in the loss of a helicopter and Russian pilots. The sooner the tactics change, the better.

O really? Ever heard of SAR, CSAR missions? They are flying helicopters behind enemy lines very often in daylight, thats simply their role. Its not advised to fly helicopters in challenged area over enemy positions in daylight but thats what has to be done very often, even US does that, Israel for that matter too, AH64s were somethimes flying 200km over contested teritory to make missile strike.

"Britain should join airstrikes in Syria and not be "diverted" by the "worrying" risk of a clash with Russian forces, the Defence Secretary has said. Michael Fallon said there was an "inescapable logic" to extending UK military action across the border from Iraq in its fight against Islamic State (IS). He also accused Russian President Vladimir Putin of "prolonging" the bloodshed in Syria by supporting President Bashar Assad's regime. Asked about the risk of a collision or accidental clash with Mr Putin's forces, he told the BBC's Andrew Marr Show: "I am worried. "When you have this activity you have on the Turkish border, which is a NATO border ... you have seen incursions into Turkish airspace." But he added: "I don't think we should let Russia divert us for a moment from our focus against Isil (IS). "Don't let us forget that Isil beheaded British hostages, they were behind the slaughter of 30 British holidaymakers on a beach in Tunisia." Mr Fallon reiterated the Government's commitment to holding a fresh Commons vote on Syria bombing raids, saying: "Isil (IS) is run from northeast Syria where Assad has not been in control for a couple of years."



Source: http://news.sky.com/story/1571655/fallon-uk-must-strike-syria-despite-russia-fears

Militarov wrote:"Britain should join airstrikes in Syria and not be "diverted" by the "worrying" risk of a clash with Russian forces, the Defence Secretary has said. Michael Fallon said there was an "inescapable logic" to extending UK military action across the border from Iraq in its fight against Islamic State (IS). He also accused Russian President Vladimir Putin of "prolonging" the bloodshed in Syria by supporting President Bashar Assad's regime. Asked about the risk of a collision or accidental clash with Mr Putin's forces, he told the BBC's Andrew Marr Show: "I am worried. "When you have this activity you have on the Turkish border, which is a NATO border ... you have seen incursions into Turkish airspace." But he added: "I don't think we should let Russia divert us for a moment from our focus against Isil (IS). "Don't let us forget that Isil beheaded British hostages, they were behind the slaughter of 30 British holidaymakers on a beach in Tunisia." Mr Fallon reiterated the Government's commitment to holding a fresh Commons vote on Syria bombing raids, saying: "Isil (IS) is run from northeast Syria where Assad has not been in control for a couple of years."



Source: http://news.sky.com/story/1571655/fallon-uk-must-strike-syria-despite-russia-fears

I don't know why but after reading that I am pissed off. Our spineless and gutless politicians would rather stand on the sidelines and insult the other guy who's doing the dirty work while also accusing him of all sorts of bullshit (i.e. Russia). If this fucking coward had determination his country would've joined the fight against ISIS a long time ago.

"He also accused Russian President Vladimir Putin of "prolonging" the bloodshed in Syria by supporting President Bashar Assad's regime". Honestly, what the F U C K is that supposed to mean? Perhaps I should interpret this as Great Britain shedding tears over dead terrorists?