Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #4

George1 wrote:

ultron wrote:Woohoo. More than 1,000 infrastructure targets destroyed so far. About 10,000 left. They should concentrate on western Syria particularly Idlib, Latakia, Homs, Hama for now and don't bother with ISIS. Let Americans get bogged down there

there have been worse rates than this. Remember that in 1999 NATO bombardment of Yugoslavia, NATO claimed for months that had destroyed 50% of Yugoslavian tanks in Kosovo. When Yugoslavian Army withdraw, there were found only 12 tanks destroyed. The rest that NATO claimed had destroyed were decoys...

TheArmenian wrote:

zg18 wrote:Russian convoy in Latakia

That looks like a MSTA-B. First one I see in Syria.

ultron wrote:

TheArmenian wrote:

zg18 wrote:Russian convoy in Latakia

That looks like a MSTA-B. First one I see in Syria.

Looks like SAA is finally getting 152 mm artillery. Should have happened years ago. Better late than never.

Vann7 wrote:Possibly if they don't see major improvements and the campaign too slow and/or Syrian
Army taking too much casualties or IRAN trying to influence the political outcome too much
against their interest of a full secular free Syria they could start sending a small force of 5,000
soldiers for example. With T-90 and T-73B3 tanks.. and Russian artillery.  

NationalRus wrote:

ultron wrote:

TheArmenian wrote:

zg18 wrote:Russian convoy in Latakia

That looks like a MSTA-B. First one I see in Syria.

Looks like SAA is finally getting 152 mm artillery. Should have happened years ago. Better late than never.

fool


ML-20, D-20, 2S3

ultron wrote:

NationalRus wrote:

ultron wrote:

TheArmenian wrote:

zg18 wrote:Russian convoy in Latakia

That looks like a MSTA-B. First one I see in Syria.

Looks like SAA is finally getting 152 mm artillery. Should have happened years ago. Better late than never.

fool


ML-20, D-20, 2S3

SAA needs 1980s equipment, which they do not have.

Vann7 wrote:The the head of Russia’s parliamentary committee on foreign affairs Konstantin Kosachev ,told recently there have been Big discussion in Russia parliament to send ground troops to speed the process of recapturing Syria lost territory to ISIS faster.

https://www.rt.com/news/319907-us-syria-unpredictable-consequences/

Possibly if they don't see major improvements and the campaign too slow and/or Syrian
Army taking too much casualties or IRAN trying to influence the political outcome too much
against their interest of a full secular free Syria they could start sending a small force of 5,000
soldiers for example. With T-90 and T-73B3 tanks.. and Russian artillery.  

The Syrian army seriously lack of decent tanks ,fast mobile artillery and infantry armored units. that could counter the terrorist fast mobility . They mostly use civilian cars for mobility and very old outdated tanks. Im sure that had Russia army deploys in Syria to capture IDLIB
or Aleppo.. they will liberate it in couple days with all the weapons they have..not yet used in the conflict. and more important than anything Russia to finally seal the border with Turkey
and cut the terrorist supply route.

The Russian Army will not need to fight door by door and its role could be just to break inside
the cities and destroy any mobility and heavy weapons of the terrorist. and force them to go on the hide inside cities.

Even though it will be nice if Russia can do it all with their small airforce... unfortunately that will allow the terrorist to retreat. Cities needs to be encircled and cut off so no one escape.
Im more worried now for IRAQ.. because im sure the Americans if they notice will lose
Syria will retaliate IRAQ.

meanwhile..  

Ukrainian radicals in NATO uniforms destroyed in Syria

http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/2015/10/ukrainian-radicals-in-nato-uniforms.html

ult wrote:

Militarov wrote:

ult wrote:

These look like they could have been taken by Platan EOTS.

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:It all depends on what progress SAA makes? My opinion si that if it does not manage to secure a decisive victory until 2017 - then it never will.

In such a situation, sending ground troops should be considered seriously... maybe deploy the 58th Army? Together with an equivalent of the International Brigades... There is no shortage of people willing to fight for Assad in Europe. There are Greeks, there are Serbs, Bulgarians, Romanians, lots of disgruntled folks in WEstern and Central Europe etc Including folks with military experience.

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These reports also appear to be part of a “war of nerves” between Russia and the Islamists (as well as their sponsors). The “war” began with Qatar making noises about supplying shoulder-launched SAMs and even engaging in a military intervention in Syria. Russia responded with reports of preparing to up its air campaign to 200 sorties a day, using long-range bombers to strike IS targets, and preparations of a small ground force contingent to bolster the Syrian Army. The message is that should IS sponsors wish to up the ante, Russia is willing to see them and raise them.


Russia prepares to use Tu-22M3 bombers against islamists
http://southfront.org/russia-prepares-to-use-tu-22m3-bombers-against-islamists/

These look like they could have been taken by Platan EOTS.

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Russian air strikes were met with nearly no opposition from the wider public in Europe.

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Together with an equivalent of the International Brigades... There is no shortage of people willing to fight for Assad in Europe. There are Greeks, there are Serbs, Bulgarians, Romanians, lots of disgruntled folks in WEstern and Central Europe etc Including folks with military experience.

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:It all depends on what progress SAA makes? My opinion si that if it does not manage to secure a decisive victory until 2017 - then it never will.

In such a situation, sending ground troops should be considered seriously... maybe deploy the 58th Army? Together with an equivalent of the International Brigades... There is no shortage of people willing to fight for Assad in Europe. There are Greeks, there are Serbs, Bulgarians, Romanians, lots of disgruntled folks in WEstern and Central Europe etc Including folks with military experience.

Like I said before, in Libya it took 8 months of heavy bombing to finally destroy Gaddafi... and Gaddafi received almost no support from outside and was in an unfavorable situation - troops had to cover over 1000 km of open desert to get from Tripoli to Benghazi. In Syria you have a more numerous enemy that is well prepared to fight under enemy air supremacy (they fight like taht since the beginning), has shorter supply lines and is replenished non-stop... Rebels lose 80-100 killed per day and so far they're doing rather fine.

Russia prepares to use Tu-22M3 bombers against islamists

Various freefall bombs – 69 × FAB-250 or [/b] 8 × FAB-1500 [/b] might be typical.

Up to 3 × Raduga Kh-22 missiles in weapons bay and on wing pylons or

Up to 6 × Raduga Kh-15 missiles on a MKU-6-1 rotary launcher in its bomb bay, plus 4 × Raduga Kh-15 missiles on two underwing pylons for a total of 10 missiles per aircraft.

Militarov wrote:

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:It all depends on what progress SAA makes? My opinion si that if it does not manage to secure a decisive victory until 2017 - then it never will.

In such a situation, sending ground troops should be considered seriously... maybe deploy the 58th Army? Together with an equivalent of the International Brigades... There is no shortage of people willing to fight for Assad in Europe. There are Greeks, there are Serbs, Bulgarians, Romanians, lots of disgruntled folks in WEstern and Central Europe etc Including folks with military experience.

Like I said before, in Libya it took 8 months of heavy bombing to finally destroy Gaddafi... and Gaddafi received almost no support from outside and was in an unfavorable situation - troops had to cover over 1000 km of open desert to get from Tripoli to Benghazi. In Syria you have a more numerous enemy that is well prepared to fight under enemy air supremacy (they fight like taht since the beginning), has shorter supply lines and is replenished non-stop... Rebels lose 80-100 killed per day and so far they're doing rather fine.

Eww... Serbs do support Assad in masses, however i dont think any Serb would volonteur to go there and fight like they did for Russians. Naturally you can always find good Serbs for hire... id even fight for good money

Militarov wrote:

Made my day literally