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    Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #5

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    Post  Werewolf Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:26 am

    The fucking hasbara jews are cheering on all the jew infested forums.
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    Post  Guest Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:27 am

    OminousSpudd wrote:
    OminousSpudd wrote:https://www.rt.com/news/323216-rt-correspondents-injured-syria/

    They hit a journalist convoy as well. This is disgusting.

    Sorry false alarm, looks like this happened a while back.
    This happened moments ago too.
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    Post  Monarchist Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:28 am

    Werewolf wrote:The fucking hasbara jews are cheering on all the jew infested forums.
    They hate russians and Russia. Does it surprise you?
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    Post  Guest Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:28 am

    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:Guys,

    Those of you with linguistic skills, can you tell us if the Russian MoD's version mentions AA gun fire as the cause, or something was missed in the translation?

    This is important.

    I think RT has deleted the reference to gun fire now.

    Word обстрел was used, which means firing/fire/gunning/rafale, but today basically can mean any type of attack with firearm to my knowledge including missiles.
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    Post  Vann7 Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:28 am

    OminousSpudd wrote:There's a contingency plan for this.

    Yes.. before Russia moved a single plane to Syria.. they had to plan all the actions
    they will take in case anything goes wrong.. ie.. limited short war with Turkey or Israel or US .. had to be on their plans..studied and re-studied at all the things that could happen.. and which red lines Russia will have with Turkey or NATO and ISRAEL ...even the possibility of a limited world war 3 had to be studied..before going to Syria to fight..


    ie.. like which places in Turkey or Israel to bomb.. to retaliate.. and what kind of retaliation
    can be done against US.. is all carefully planned.. by the RUssian mod.


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    Post  Guest Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:29 am

    OminousSpudd wrote:
    OminousSpudd wrote:https://www.rt.com/news/323216-rt-correspondents-injured-syria/

    They hit a journalist convoy as well. This is disgusting.

    Sorry false alarm, looks like this happened a while back.

    "Three Russian journalists were slightly wounded in shelling of forward positions of the Syrian Government army" - Rusisan MoD 4 minutes ago.
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    Post  OminousSpudd Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:29 am

    Wait, if the Turks have a pilot.... What's the ground data, do we have a potential Turkish offensive in progress?
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:30 am

    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:Guys,

    Those of you with linguistic skills, can you tell us if the Russian MoD's version mentions AA gun fire as the cause, or something was missed in the translation?

    This is important.

    I think RT has deleted the reference to gun fire now.

    The distinction is meaningless, the Su's were flying very high, in plain sight, so from ground or from air, this isn't the casual ManPad, it's a bigger AA system anyway, be that A2A or S2A. By doeing this the Turks just signed their crime. They're coming forward with that airspace invasion crap because they want to make it look like it wasn't their fault, they were only acting in self defence.

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    Post  max steel Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:30 am

    This is just a bit of theatre and grand-standing, both pilots of the Russian plane are fine, but it's enough to spark a diplomatic incident. Putin will not take the bait by attacking Turkey, but they will be monitoring Syrian airspace for illegal planes. Turkey and it's cronies constantly breach Syrian air space.

    Turkey ised F-16 to shoot down Russian jet mentioned by ABC.

    Its high time now Syria should close its airspace completely allowing only Russian and French fighters.


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    Post  Fred333 Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:31 am

    stay classy with the calls for civvie casualties in Turkey guys...
    what I am now wondering is what Turkey can do after this? Russian planes will no doubt keep operating against the Turkmen, and how many Russian planes can Erdoturd keep shooting down before there will be a serious backlash by RuAF? I think Erdonut just played his last card...
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    Post  Guest Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:32 am

    TOW missiles were used on the journalists according to the MoD
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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:32 am

    Militarov wrote:
    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:Guys,

    Those of you with linguistic skills, can you tell us if the Russian MoD's version mentions AA gun fire as the cause, or something was missed in the translation?

    This is important.

    I think RT has deleted the reference to gun fire now.

    Word обстрел was used, which means firing/fire/gunning/rafale, but today basically can mean any type of attack with firearm to my knowledge including missiles.

    Thank you.
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    Post  Werewolf Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:32 am

    max steel wrote:This is just a bit of theatre and grand-standing, both pilots of the Russian plane are fine, but it's enough to spark a diplomatic incident. Putin will not take the bait by attacking Turkey, but they will be monitoring Syrian airspace for illegal planes. Turkey and it's cronies constantly breach Syrian air space.


    Its high time now Syria should close its airspace completely allowing only Russian and French fighters.

    No faggot french, they are NATO and terrorist supporters. Never trust the west or any of their vassals.
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    Post  Monarchist Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:33 am

    Russia should asap provide turkish PKK anti-tank weapons and manpads.
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    Post  Boshoed Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:35 am

    OminousSpudd wrote:Wait, if the Turks have a pilot.... What's the ground data, do we have a potential Turkish offensive in progress?

    No, they are Syrian Turkmen, as in, they are Syrians of Turkish descent.
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    Post  Werewolf Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:35 am

    Monarchist wrote:Russia should asap provide turkish PKK anti-tank weapons and manpads.

    Iskander with cobalt warheads.
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    Post  Vann7 Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:37 am

    max steel wrote:This is just a bit of theatre and grand-standing, both pilots of the Russian plane are fine, but it's enough to spark a diplomatic incident. Putin will not take the bait by attacking Turkey, but they will be monitoring Syrian airspace for illegal planes. Turkey and it's cronies constantly breach Syrian air space.

    Turkey ised F-16 to shoot down Russian jet mentioned by ABC.

    Its high time now Syria should close its airspace completely allowing only Russian and French fighters.

    The MOD told the fate of the pilots is unknown.. they parachute in a zone full of terrorist..
    So a hunt against them have to start by the terrorist as soon the ejected.. they could be behead
    and killed and it will be Turkey to blame. Hopefully Russia have a plan to drop a missile over that bastard soon . And arm the kurds to the teeth.

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    Post  Fred333 Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:38 am

    arming PKK is only way for Putin to hurt Turkey with some deniability -> but two can play that game and I suspect things will be swept under the carpet by both sides from now on to relax things
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    Post  Guest Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:38 am

    Werewolf wrote:
    max steel wrote:This is just a bit of theatre and grand-standing, both pilots of the Russian plane are fine, but it's enough to spark a diplomatic incident. Putin will not take the bait by attacking Turkey, but they will be monitoring Syrian airspace for illegal planes. Turkey and it's cronies constantly breach Syrian air space.


    Its high time now Syria should close its airspace completely allowing only Russian and French fighters.

    No faggot french, they are NATO and terrorist supporters. Never trust the west or any of their vassals.
    Coincidentally, the only force in the region that has been helping Russia is none other than Israel. Russian warplanes have been operating along the Israeli border with Syria with no problems at all. Plus Israel is the only state that is not part of the Russian-Iranian-Iraqi-Syrian coalition that has been providing and sharing intel about ISIS and Al-Nusra.


    Russia should also organize Turkey their own Chechnya with the Kurds.
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    Post  OminousSpudd Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:39 am

    Boshoed wrote:
    OminousSpudd wrote:Wait, if the Turks have a pilot.... What's the ground data, do we have a potential Turkish offensive in progress?

    No, they are Syrian Turkmen, as in, they are Syrians of Turkish descent.

    Many thanks for the clarification, seriously this stuff is heart in mouth.
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    Post  Guest Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:41 am

    "Turkish military authorities added the plane had been warned at least 10 times over a period of five minutes before being shot down by two Turkish F-16 fighter jets. He said the plane had violated Turkish airspace."

    Air to Air engagement it seems.
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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:41 am

    Boshoed wrote:
    OminousSpudd wrote:Wait, if the Turks have a pilot.... What's the ground data, do we have a potential Turkish offensive in progress?

    No, they are Syrian Turkmen, as in, they are Syrians of Turkish descent.

    Those pilots better be vined and dined like royalty if Turks value their worthless hides...
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    Post  Guest Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:42 am

    Russian Helos are conducting a (C)SAR mission right now along the border.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:42 am

    CNN saying the plane wasn't in Turkish airspace when it got hit...this is an ambush plain and simple. The Turks shot the plane as a warning, i really hope the pilots are returned, if not, more bombing on the area, possibly cruise missiles, possibly standoff munitions well within Syrian Airspace, just GIVE. THEM. HELL.


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