Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #5

Dima wrote:

auslander wrote:

Dima wrote:Hope you Or was it asulander who said Russian casualities are bound to happen? Who ever it is, hope they are satisfied now?
Those who said so can now claim that "I said so".

Let's get something straight right now, my friend.

Each and every casualty in the current war in Syria is a tragedy, just as each and every casualty in the war in Novorossiya, or any war for that matter, is a tragedy. Sitting off the coast of Syria is OUR flot from Sevastopol, we know a lot of these boys and men. Flying out of Latakya are OUR boys, some from Belbek just to the north of us, so close we can hear the dawn patrol become airborne. We know a lot of them also.

We have put to rest 29 of our local boys killed in the fighting in Novorossiya in the last 18 months. I have had the sad honor of being the NCOIC of the Honor Guard for some of them. Our adopted son is fighting in Novorossiya. One of our prospective adoptive daughters whose parents died in Gorlovka has forgone her formal education, completed her basic training and advanced vocational training and is now, as of late last month, serving in Novorossiya as a field medic.

Do you really think I would gloat and say 'I told you so'? You can take your condescending comment and shove it square up your ass.

Seems like you couldn't ignore my comment maybe coz you felt hurt or some other reason.

Thats is exactly what me (and probably many other might have felt) when someone comes up with his prophecy regarding the Russian contingent in Syria. Most people very much understand that Russia as a nation is fighting on many fronts including helping a trusted friend Syria against heavy odds with almost no other major power to really back up..... so every single day its with fingers crossed to see everything goes ok and it definitely doesn't sound good hearing some stupid prophecy about combat losses as if no one else knows about brutal reality of war.

PapaDragon wrote:

zorobabel wrote:Turkey has announced they will soon establish their buffer zone in northern Syria. It's so sad to see Russia getting knocked around by a thug like Erdogan. Not much of a response yet.

And get incinerated like cockroaches that they are?

If turks had balls to do anything along those lines they would have done it by now and they would not be waiting in ambush for weeks trying to shoot down a passing strike plane and then immediately run off  to their pimp in Brussels/DC for protection.

Bolt wrote:Three (?) men lost, two aircraft, a black day. May the pilots and the marine rest in peace!


A question about the screenshot of the radar - can someone please explain me what is happening? the resolution is bad and I don't understand these lines. Green is Turks? Where/when exactly did they (F-16) cross the Turkish border?

PapaDragon wrote:

zorobabel wrote:Turkey has announced they will soon establish their buffer zone in northern Syria. It's so sad to see Russia getting knocked around by a thug like Erdogan. Not much of a response yet.

And get incinerated like cockroaches that they are?

If turks had balls to do anything along those lines they would have done it by now and they would not be waiting in ambush for weeks trying to shoot down a passing strike plane and then immediately run off  to their pimp in Brussels/DC for protection.

Dima wrote:

auslander wrote:

Dima wrote:Hope you Or was it asulander who said Russian casualities are bound to happen? Who ever it is, hope they are satisfied now?
Those who said so can now claim that "I said so".

Let's get something straight right now, my friend.

Each and every casualty in the current war in Syria is a tragedy, just as each and every casualty in the war in Novorossiya, or any war for that matter, is a tragedy. Sitting off the coast of Syria is OUR flot from Sevastopol, we know a lot of these boys and men. Flying out of Latakya are OUR boys, some from Belbek just to the north of us, so close we can hear the dawn patrol become airborne. We know a lot of them also.

We have put to rest 29 of our local boys killed in the fighting in Novorossiya in the last 18 months. I have had the sad honor of being the NCOIC of the Honor Guard for some of them. Our adopted son is fighting in Novorossiya. One of our prospective adoptive daughters whose parents died in Gorlovka has forgone her formal education, completed her basic training and advanced vocational training and is now, as of late last month, serving in Novorossiya as a field medic.

Do you really think I would gloat and say 'I told you so'? You can take your condescending comment and shove it square up your ass.

Seems like you couldn't ignore my comment maybe coz you felt hurt or some other reason.

Thats is exactly what me (and probably many other might have felt) when someone comes up with his prophecy regarding the Russian contingent in Syria. Most people very much understand that Russia as a nation is fighting on many fronts including helping a trusted friend Syria against heavy odds with almost no other major power to really back up..... so every single day its with fingers crossed to see everything goes ok and it definitely doesn't sound good hearing some stupid prophecy about combat losses as if no one else knows about brutal reality of war.

Dima wrote:
This shoot down could have been clearly avoided if there was a Su-30SM covering the strike a/c.

ult wrote:Screencaps from the Russian briefing.


Those radar pictures look really bad for Turkey.

I'm not even going to try to speculate on Russia's response.

Zivo wrote:Regardless, that radar picture shows the Su-24 did not enter Turkish airspace for more than a few seconds at most, it was not an act of provocation. Turkey was premeditating the shootdown, waiting for an excuse.

Any response, up to and including a declaration of war would be justified.

PapaDragon wrote:
Bitches run for cover and say they did not know...

Turkey Claims No Knowledge Jet Shot Down Near Syrian Border Was Russian

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20151124/1030689898/turkey-denies-plane-nationality-knowledge.html#ixzz3sRFnrgiB

Godric wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

zorobabel wrote:Turkey has announced they will soon establish their buffer zone in northern Syria. It's so sad to see Russia getting knocked around by a thug like Erdogan. Not much of a response yet.

And get incinerated like cockroaches that they are?

If turks had balls to do anything along those lines they would have done it by now and they would not be waiting in ambush for weeks trying to shoot down a passing strike plane and then immediately run off  to their pimp in Brussels/DC for protection.

The Serbs know a thing or 2 on how to remove the kebabs ... no wonder Serbs hate them

Firebird wrote:Does anyone know the price and effectiveness of a mass cruise missile strike against say military facilites across Turkey?

It was interesting to read the article alleging that Obummer was considering kicking Turdkey out of NATO earlier this yr. I wonder what the French think of it all. Germany however is overrun with the lowlive heroine dealers.

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
Bitches run for cover and say they did not know...

Turkey Claims No Knowledge Jet Shot Down Near Syrian Border Was Russian

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20151124/1030689898/turkey-denies-plane-nationality-knowledge.html#ixzz3sRFnrgiB

Too late. Putin already told in diplomatic words... and soon cruiser with S-300Fort and more fighters will officially be there. I presume stream of weaponry to Kruds will only increase.

Godric wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

zorobabel wrote:Turkey has announced they will soon establish their buffer zone in northern Syria. It's so sad to see Russia getting knocked around by a thug like Erdogan. Not much of a response yet.

And get incinerated like cockroaches that they are?

If turks had balls to do anything along those lines they would have done it by now and they would not be waiting in ambush for weeks trying to shoot down a passing strike plane and then immediately run off  to their pimp in Brussels/DC for protection.

The Serbs know a thing or 2 on how to remove the kebabs ... no wonder Serbs hate them

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Zivo wrote:

Firebird wrote:Does anyone know the price and effectiveness of a mass cruise missile strike against say military facilites across Turkey?

It was interesting to read the article alleging that Obummer was considering kicking Turdkey out of NATO earlier this yr. I wonder what the French think of it all. Germany however is overrun with the lowlive heroine dealers.

The price is irrelevant.

KiloGolf wrote:

Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:The probability of hit of an AMRAAM is minuscule (close to zero), even with no EW present. The probability of hit of a Sidewinder is higher, and that of the 20 mm gun is much much higher.

Why post this crap? blah, blah, blah

Firebird wrote:

Zivo wrote:

Firebird wrote:Does anyone know the price and effectiveness of a mass cruise missile strike against say military facilites across Turkey?

It was interesting to read the article alleging that Obummer was considering kicking Turdkey out of NATO earlier this yr. I wonder what the French think of it all. Germany however is overrun with the lowlive heroine dealers.

The price is irrelevant.

I'd send them a cheque. I'm just wondering how effective it would be vs land forces/naval bombardment and air squadrons.