Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

KiloGolf wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

KiloGolf wrote:

ult wrote:

BTW Jaysh Al Fath got double whammy yesterday. Their mechanized guys got Somalized by light SAA infantry (cough IRGC cough), then when they mobilized to strike back, ISIS went all Rocco on them and is now reaching for Azzaz.

Russian "failed strikes" deliver. There's one good thing with ISIS they always fuck up everything they touch. Fortunately they mostly touch moderates so far.

Have the recent rebel gains in SW Aleppo region been reversed?
I mean we saw the beardie T-72 being taken out in the end, any other news?

PapaDragon wrote:Someone said Russia got cold feet?

Russian MoD to Reveal New Data on International Fight Against Terrorism ''

http://sputniknews.com/military/20151201/1031078491/Russian-MoD-media-briefing-preview.html

Russia's Defense Ministry has announced it will unveil "new data," previously unknown to the public, pertaining to "The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in the fight against international terrorism."

(...)

Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan vehemently denied the allegations, vowing that if evidence does surface, he will resign from the presidency.  

Ivan Sidorenko @IvanSidorenko1
#Syria #SyrianArabArmy #SyrianArmy #Russia #Russian #SAA #SyrianArmedForces #RussianArmedForces

flamming_python wrote:

zorobabel wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

zorobabel wrote:Well, that's good, but I'd be happier to hear that 10,000 Russian soldiers were being deployed there.

And that is exactly what those assholes want.

If we are throwing stupid ideas out there I say let's nuke entire Mideast and North Africa...only way to be sure right?

Huh? Who are 'those assholes'? 10,000 Russian soldiers in Syria, concentrated on one or two fronts against ISIS, freeing up more SAA soldiers to fight against rebels would be very helpful for Russia's longterm strategic interests. They don't even have to be on the frontlines as far as I'm concerned, just providing artillery and other forms of support. Look at map changes over the last 2 months and count the number of bombs Russia has dropped. The SAA is not getting the job done.

Lighten up Francis. Russian AF hasn't even been there for 2 months, and you're already 'SAA is not getting the job done'
These things take time. Terrorist infrastructure has been hit hard, and keeps getting hit, but the effect is not immediate; it's a cumulative thing.

And the most important thing that the SAA has now is not a little regained territory, or a little loss in another place - it's that they have regained the initiative, and are now directing the course of the war. You guys keep missing it, but this is the biggest change. Before, they were constantly on the back foot. The SAA has had a big morale boost too. If they keep pressing the rebels, the rebel lines will eventually collapse and they will break through. They found a weak spots already, but weren't able to exploit them. Nevermind, they will find them again, and be ready for it.

mack8 wrote:I too think that putting 10,000 russian soldiers on the ground in Syria is not a good idea. If anything, such a force is first justified to be used  to finally liberate Donbass (all of it) and link it with Crimea...

As for Syria, enhanced air presence and intelligence gathering, spetsnaz operations, and every possible assistance to the SAA and it's allies is the first thing to do before putting russian soldiers to such risks. I was saying before, the SAA needs the weapons contracted and anything that is in good order and of good use from russian military depots, they need everything they can get (especially modern air, armour and artillery). Arm them to the teeth and assist them to destroy the rats.  

par far wrote:

mack8 wrote:I too think that putting 10,000 russian soldiers on the ground in Syria is not a good idea. If anything, such a force is first justified to be used  to finally liberate Donbass (all of it) and link it with Crimea...

As for Syria, enhanced air presence and intelligence gathering, spetsnaz operations, and every possible assistance to the SAA and it's allies is the first thing to do before putting russian soldiers to such risks. I was saying before, the SAA needs the weapons contracted and anything that is in good order and of good use from russian military depots, they need everything they can get (especially modern air, armour and artillery). Arm them to the teeth and assist them to destroy the rats.  

There is no need to send in 10,000 Russian troops to Syria but sending 3,000-5,000 would not be a bad idea. They would not do much of the fighting but they would be responsible for protecting Russian bases and other Russian assets in Syria and they could test out Ratnik Military gear and the AK 12 and it would keep NATO honest.

whir wrote:Loading those barrels onto whatever flatbed is available it's not really a trick but lack of proper tanker trucks.

ult wrote:

sweartome123 wrote:

ult wrote:

What is this crap? Those are not 'oil refineries.' The targets in the first and third videos are grain silos and the target in the second video is a water treatment facility. Has the MoD gone full retard? Even if these facilities were being used by the enemy (hiding weapons, supplies, etc.), they are clearly not oil refineries. Why even lie when the lie is so obvious?

Godric wrote:Alex Salmond ex Snp leaders speech in Westminster .... has a massive dig at Turkey 5.20 minutes in

JohninMK wrote:Strange story out of Fortrus

KiloGolf wrote:

sweartome123 wrote:What is this crap? Those are not 'oil refineries.' The targets in the first and third videos are grain silos and the target in the second video is a water treatment facility. Has the MoD gone full retard? Even if these facilities were being used by the enemy (hiding weapons, supplies, etc.), they are clearly not oil refineries. Why even lie when the lie is so obvious?

Because there is no grain left for years, Daesh is stocking oil in and around the silos, like they do with big trucks moving barrels around. That particular site has been bombed before, but not the silos but improvised fuel tanks in its perimeter. The after-explosions with fireball confirm it.

sweartome123 wrote:"Because there is no grain left for years, Daesh is stocking oil in and around the silos, like they do with big trucks moving barrels around. That particular site has been bombed before, but not the silos but improvised fuel tanks in its perimeter. The after-explosions with fireball confirm it."

Unless I need glasses, I see no after-explosions whatsoever. Just look at the explosions and aftermath. No raging fires and no black smoke. At the thirty second mark, the smoke from the first strike is completely gone. Nothing suggests oil was hit.