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Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #7

kvs

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Post n°176

Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #7

kvs Sun Jan 03, 2016 4:01 pm

TheArmenian wrote:A very telling picture:

Looks like a photoshop to me. Why would any of the locals know how to write in Cyrillic script as if they were from Russia?
They would be able to find some non script text on the web and then could produce a sign like this. Also look at the surface
over which the white letters are applied. Is this supposed to be some sort of roof? Not bloody likely considering the scaffolding
below it and how pristine it is.

Somebody is trying too hard.

short_fuze

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Post n°177

Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #7

short_fuze Sun Jan 03, 2016 5:20 pm

kvs wrote:

TheArmenian wrote:A very telling picture:

Looks like a photoshop to me. Why would any of the locals know how to write in Cyrillic script as if they were from Russia?
They would be able to find some non script text on the web and then could produce a sign like this. Also look at the surface
over which the white letters are applied. Is this supposed to be some sort of roof? Not bloody likely considering the scaffolding
below it and how pristine it is.

Somebody is trying too hard.

The photo opportunity is certainly posed., the same way that this was posed.

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Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #7 - Page 8 2704458_original

The helicopter in view is the same - board number 34 yellow - and the photographer is the same - Vadim Savitsky. The two were probably taken on the same photo session.

There are many factors that suggest the roof text is real.

i) the brown background is highly textured. The horizontal lines match the poles visible at the left margin above the 'copter blade. The brown color is not uniform, with many variable lighter patches. The right margin is slightly curved inwards.

ii) the text is very irregular in letter width and letter spacing.

iii) The first 3 letters of the first word have white splodges and vertical paint runs. Presumably these were the first letters painted.

iv) There are a few other small white blodges elsewhere on the brown surface.

v) About halfway through the text, it becomes aligned to the horizontal liness / poles running across/through the brown surface. The thrid line is most consistently lined up with these lines.

vi) There is a ladder leaning against the roof to the right of the man's head in his shadow.

vii) There is a whitewash (?) bucket below the 'A' in 'SPASIBO'

viii) there are fresh whitewash splodges to the left of the bucket.

ix) The wall partially visible to the lower right of the brown surface is freshly painted with whitewash, unlike the other visible walls of the building.

sepheronx

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Post n°178

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sepheronx Sun Jan 03, 2016 5:34 pm

Dima wrote:

flamming_python wrote:Your name is Dima, and you can't post a translation yourself?

Should that be a concern to a yank?

Are you a yank or are you calling Flaming a Yank? Cause Flaming is living in Russia. If not, then I apologize for the misunderstanding.

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Post n°179

Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #7

Svyatoslavich Sun Jan 03, 2016 5:40 pm

kvs wrote:Looks like a photoshop to me. Why would any of the locals know how to write in Cyrillic script as if they were from Russia?
They would be able to find some non script text on the web and then could produce a sign like this. Also look at the surface
over which the white letters are applied. Is this supposed to be some sort of roof? Not bloody likely considering the scaffolding
below it and how pristine it is.

Somebody is trying too hard.

Short Fuze gave an excellent explanation for why it isn't photoshop.
For the writing, there can be two possibilities:
1- the Syrians asked a Russian serviceman to write it for them;
2- it was written by a Syrian educated in Russia or the Soviet Union, there is quite a number of them.

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Post n°180

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PapaDragon Sun Jan 03, 2016 6:48 pm

This is ''Plan B'' I talked about when this whole thing started but a lot has changed in four months. SAA finally stopped dicking around, Kurds are on the roll and Turks well, you know the story.

''Russia has a 'plan B' for Syria that would allow it to 'redefine the international order' ''

http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-syria-alawistan-assadland-2016-1

Of course this being Business Insider they are (120) day(s) late an couple of dollars short. As things are today this whole thing has been designated ''Plan W'' by Russia by now.

Ignore usual doom/gloom BS in the article. MSM parallel universe where VKS is not tearing sh*t up 24/7... Cool

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Post n°181

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TheArmenian Sun Jan 03, 2016 7:13 pm

kvs wrote:

TheArmenian wrote:A very telling picture:

Looks like a photoshop to me. Why would any of the locals know how to write in Cyrillic script as if they were from Russia?
They would be able to find some non script text on the web and then could produce a sign like this. Also look at the surface
over which the white letters are applied. Is this supposed to be some sort of roof? Not bloody likely considering the scaffolding
below it and how pristine it is.

Somebody is trying too hard.

Not a photoshop.

I saw glimpse of that roof in one of the videos from the defence ministry.

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Guest Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:15 am

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Guest Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:31 am

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MTs-116M sniper rifle spotted in Syria. This thing is genuinely rare item outside Russia.

http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sniper-rifles/rus/mts-116m-e.html

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Big_Gazza

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Post n°185

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Big_Gazza Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:28 am

Svyatoslavich wrote:

kvs wrote:Looks like a photoshop to me. Why would any of the locals know how to write in Cyrillic script as if they were from Russia?
They would be able to find some non script text on the web and then could produce a sign like this. Also look at the surface
over which the white letters are applied. Is this supposed to be some sort of roof? Not bloody likely considering the scaffolding
below it and how pristine it is.

Somebody is trying too hard.

Short Fuze gave an excellent explanation for why it isn't photoshop.
For the writing, there can be two possibilities:
1- the Syrians asked a Russian serviceman to write it for them;
2- it was written by a Syrian educated in Russia or the Soviet Union, there is quite a number of them.

3- someone used an online translator.

They do have the internet in Syria...

Svyatoslavich

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Post n°186

Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #7

Svyatoslavich Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:04 am

Big_Gazza wrote:

Svyatoslavich wrote:

kvs wrote:Looks like a photoshop to me. Why would any of the locals know how to write in Cyrillic script as if they were from Russia?
They would be able to find some non script text on the web and then could produce a sign like this. Also look at the surface
over which the white letters are applied. Is this supposed to be some sort of roof? Not bloody likely considering the scaffolding
below it and how pristine it is.

Somebody is trying too hard.

Short Fuze gave an excellent explanation for why it isn't photoshop.
For the writing, there can be two possibilities:
1- the Syrians asked a Russian serviceman to write it for them;
2- it was written by a Syrian educated in Russia or the Soviet Union, there is quite a number of them.

3- someone used an online translator.

They do have the internet in Syria...

Cursive writing was used, so it wasn't a matter of using online translation and copying the letters. It was done by someone who has at least a basic knowledge of Russian.

Vann7

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Post n°187

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Vann7 Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:25 am

GarryB wrote:No need to ignore him now...

See post number 135:

https://www.russiadefence.net/t388p120-kurdish-rebellion-turkeypkk-conflict-ypg

Cool thanks .. Smile

I usuallly don't care about people who think differently ,or even ones who hate putin or dislike Russia. But that troll was really beyond trolling ,he was a sick muslin with sympathy for terrorism. i never had problems not even with TR1 about his disagreements in forums. The only real thing i find insulting is people (like mustafa) who comes to lie and lie and lie and they know they doing it ,and still continue with that..and have shown that the only reason they have come is to disrupt any good discussion and annoy people. That bastard mustafa knows Erdogan support ISIS this is not questioned by not even journalist and politicians in Turkey ,and many American and Europeans politicians too . Russia have shown really solid irrefutable evidence that Turkey is in alliance with terrorism. and that was shown at G20 conferences ,so it was not just a rumor of any journalist..but Russia government supplying the entire world with evidence for others to confirm and refute it. NO one can deny the satellite evidence or drones evidence. At best what Turkey could said is that the video is fabricated.. but it can't say the video evidence doesn't exist. and mountains of evidence that exist for years , not only Russian media but German media and Iranian media too and Syrian and IRAQ.. Is like Russia shows irrefutable evidence that stolen Oil trucks from Syria enter in Turkey.. and ERdogan keeps saying that if evidence show up he is selling ISIS oil ,that he wil resign..as if there is not already evidence.. is our imagination ,those filmed evidence dont exist. Rolling Eyes

So according to Imbeciles like Erdogan. and Mustafa .as long they deny things..there is no proof as long as they deny anything. Rolling Eyes

He only came to this forum to defend Erdogan from the first post and did not provided any valid information on his defense.. only demonstrated he is a troll ,not interested in intelligent discussions and even began to down play other etnic groups like Russians. The most sad thing in all this was another member defending him ,by justifying Turkey terrorism because it was "Retaliation" for something Russia did.? with Turkey opposition. I really doubt Russia ever helped any Terrorist .. Perhaps Stalin could have done it
but at those times Terrorism was not a problem with muslins.. But definitively not in Russian times. Unless he wants to call novorosiya fighters terrorist.. then he have no argument and is even insulting to compare what Turkey is doing in the world vs Russia. So someone needs to educate him that defending terrorism is plain wrong. or probably he is not informed of what kind of atrocities so called "moderates Rebels" by Obama are doing in Syria. Turkey Helping radicals to cross into Syria with a suicide belt is not moderate but criminal. Mustafa even had the guts to make fun of the Beslan masacre.. that Mustafa bandit deserve a good beat with a baseball bat. ,sick muslin terrorist deserve to be in a jail for extremism.. Any way ..no more discussion about that muslin parasite and loser. . Smile

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max steel Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:34 pm

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Post n°189

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Kadmos45 Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:48 pm

max steel wrote:
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WTF ?

What the hell German Teutonic Knight is doing there ?

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Post n°190

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sepheronx Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:18 pm

I think the reference is supposed to be a joke that the soldier is supposed to be a Crusader and that a Christian priest is blessing the aircraft to fight muslims in Syria is much like the crusades fighting in Syria for christianity.

Teutonic knight though may be a simple mistake as I am pretty certain they did not wear such outfits in the crusades in the early 13th century. Although, I am not verse in type of armor or weaponry of the crusader period, or much after to be exact.

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Post n°191

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Kadmos45 Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:42 pm

The point is that Teutons were enemies of slavic people including orthodox Russia, so this image above is really idiotic on many levels.

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Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #7 - Page 8 Maxresdefault

They should use image of some russian vityaz instead not the frikkin teuton !

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flamming_python Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:46 pm

max steel wrote:

Russians are fighting for a multi-ethnic, multi-confessional, sovereign, independent & united Syria.

Crusaders were fighting for.. what?

Sprinkling holy water and blessing the planes is just a tradition. I'm sure Russia has Muslim pilots too, for that matter.

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Post n°193

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flamming_python Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:47 pm

Kadmos45 wrote:The point is that Teutons were enemies of slavic people including orthodox Russia, so this image above is really idiotic on many levels.

They should use image of some russian vityaz instead not the frikkin teuton !

Well they meant it in the way of Crusaders, not Teutonic knights specifically. Probably, someone just didn't do their research and instead of a Crusading Knight, drew a Teuton.

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Post n°194

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Werewolf Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:51 pm

Kadmos45 wrote:

max steel wrote:
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WTF ?

What the hell German Teutonic Knight is doing there ?

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Kadmos45 Mon Jan 04, 2016 3:12 pm

flamming_python wrote:

Kadmos45 wrote:The point is that Teutons were enemies of slavic people including orthodox Russia, so this image above is really idiotic on many levels.

They should use image of some russian vityaz instead not the frikkin teuton !

Well they meant it in the way of Crusaders, not Teutonic knights specifically. Probably, someone just didn't do their research and instead of a Crusading Knight, drew a Teuton.

Crusaders were catholics and also enemies of Orthodox faith, they destroy and plunder Constantinople BTW. They killed many orthodox priests, looted and burned many churches.

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Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #7 - Page 8 1204_sack

And they occupy and install puppet Latin states there marking decline of Byzantine Empire leading to turkish conquest eventually, so still failure on many levels.

So someone needs to go to history school asap before drawing anything that have no idea about.
If author of this image is russian or orthodox , then he should be ashamed of himself.

BTW. I see serious analogy to modern history. Faux western "crusade" and all that jazz.

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PapaDragon Mon Jan 04, 2016 3:27 pm

Teutonic outfit is instantly recognizable that is all. I nearly spilled my coffee when I saw that one. I love it, it will piss off all the right people... lol1