Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #7

Kadmos45 wrote:

max steel wrote:
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WTF ?

What the hell German Teutonic Knight is doing there ?

Considering, that Russia is coordinating their actions with France like allies, this crusader knight should have a red cross of Themplars, which were French knights order.

The goal of Crusades was not to convert Muslims to Christianity (much less to destroy Islam) but to claim political control over Palestine. Muslims continued to live in Palestine as they did before and no systematic attempts to convert them were made.

Sadly, that's not how an average Mohammed sees it.

PapaDragon wrote:

That is he 99,99% of jihadists and their supporters worldwide imagine Crusaders. None of them has a clue about historic details.

So when they see that pic they lose their sh*t which is the whole point.

Just imagine reaction of average Abdul from Riyadh when he sees this pic between classes in his madrasa...

It's way beyond my empathic capabilities to feel like some poor brainwashed wahhabi muslim, sorry.

For me this image is just plain idiotic - russian orthodox priest blessing IS fighter prototype of catholic flavour (Teutons were real genocidal pros not those sandeater amateurs. ).Does not compute. And i'm allergic to history ignorants.
Details are everything.

Times are sweet for Grunwald 2.0 type battle, would be so nice to shape Teutons ugly faces with swords again

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:The goal of Crusades was not to convert Muslims to Christianity (much less to destroy Islam) but to claim political control over Palestine. Muslims continued to live in Palestine as they did before and no systematic attempts to convert them were made.

Sadly, that's not how an average Mohammed sees it.

The US invasion of Iraq in 2003 was claimed to bring the Iraqis democracy and freedom.

Sadly, that's not how an average Mohammed sees it.

Russian Air force strikes in support of Kurds. Starting from 1:10.

Hmeymim.

Which museum did they broke in to steal those 74's? There are ttwo VERY early 80,s 74....and then plum 85 74' with à straight dust cover.

KoTeMoRe wrote:Which museum did they broke in to steal those 74's? There are ttwo VERY early 80,s 74....and then plum 85 74' with à straight dust cover.

Maybe to easily switch uniforms when on SovAux Army duty without need for difference weapons.
"Moderate" snipers can spot the all-black AK-74M?!

than again some of them do sport black magazines, so who knows.

very confusing as to why this happens

KiloGolf wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:Which museum did they broke in to steal those 74's? There are ttwo VERY early 80,s 74....and then plum 85 74' with à straight dust cover.

Maybe to easily switch uniforms when on SovAux Army duty without need for difference weapons.
"Moderate" snipers can spot the all-black AK-74M?!

than again some of them do sport black magazines, so who knows.

very confusing as to why this happens

Aren't the M 16 rifles also black?

The future looks very scary and destabiliztion is coming very close to Russia's borders, the future is dam scary, hope Russia, China and Irqn are ready for it.


http://southfront.org/foreign-policy-diary-2015-year-of-crisis-escalation-what-expect-in-2016/

KoTeMoRe wrote:Which museum did they broke in to steal those 74's? There are ttwo VERY early 80,s 74....and then plum 85 74' with à straight dust cover.

As long as it fires and kills, they will be fine.

Look at the finish on two of the wooden ak's, bluing of the reciever is clean. Those weapons have been pampered before being put back at the armory. They're fine. It's just that's the mix is so curious, that à Houthis joke, was ready before you killed my buzz.

KoTeMoRe wrote:Look at the finish on two of the wooden ak's, bluing of the reciever is clean. Those weapons have been pampered before being put back at the armory. They're fine. It's just that's the mix is so curious, that à Houthis joke, was ready before you killed my buzz.

Sorry I killed your buzz KoTeMoRe.

KoTeMoRe wrote:Which museum did they broke in to steal those 74's? There are ttwo VERY early 80,s 74....and then plum 85 74' with à straight dust cover.

Please forgive a question from someone who probably couldn't tell 47 from a 74 at 10 paces - are the guys on the left and right of the back row carrying bayonets?

short_fuze wrote:
Please forgive a question from someone who probably couldn't tell 47 from a 74 at 10 paces - are the guys on the left and right of the back row carrying bayonets?

I'm seeing bayonets on everyone save one soldier.

Also given the size of the stockpile of Russia in the small arms department that's not really surprising, they probably came from a strategic stockpile, those are likely old brand new AKs, produced, immediately put in storage and never used since.

They won't fly them home.

Don't see what's so strange about it. In my unit we had a few of these old-timers too; in the early days our base was short on weapons (I guess after the independent detachment of Naval Infantry that performed guard duty at our base was disbanded back in 2008 or so); so some of the officers brought in these older rifles from other units. Later on (during my service) we got a huge shipment of the later 74 models with the plum finish. But the older 74s that we had, we kept too.

Yeah they look a little different. But they work. They're in the same calibre. They function exactly the same and have the same characteristics. So why not make use of them?

par far wrote:The future looks very scary and destabiliztion is coming very close to Russia's borders, the future is dam scary, hope Russia, China and Irqn are ready for it.


http://southfront.org/foreign-policy-diary-2015-year-of-crisis-escalation-what-expect-in-2016/

You keep saying this....

It is quite easy actually. Russia just has to do a heck of a better job of protecting its borders. So this includes cutting off Georgia and Ukraine whom are the main destinations for radicals to cross into Russia. So they put a stop to that. Maybe they will have to start putting up walls/fences? Maybe more UAVs to patrol the area (they are planning to bring in UAV blimps), maybe more outposts throughout the borders for border control, more money for intelligence, so on so forth. China is no different. China is better at containing such an issue as they will place a massive amount of men in the area to contain any little issue. Russia on the other hand plays too nice but that will eventually go away.

par far wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:Look at the finish on two of the wooden ak's, bluing of the reciever is clean. Those weapons have been pampered before being put back at the armory. They're fine. It's just that's the mix is so curious, that à Houthis joke, was ready before you killed my buzz.

Sorry I killed your buzz KoTeMoRe.

No problem man.

Bidoul wrote:

short_fuze wrote:
Please forgive a question from someone who probably couldn't tell 47 from a 74 at 10 paces - are the guys on the left and right of the back row carrying bayonets?

I'm seeing bayonets on everyone save one soldier.

Also given the size of the stockpile of Russia in the small arms department that's not really surprising, they probably came from a strategic stockpile, those are likely old brand new AKs, produced, immediately put in storage and never used since.

They won't fly them home.

yeah basically this. The rifles were produced, maybe used for training and qualification, and that's it. However two of the plum 74 74's look like they have a straight dust cover, which is à Russian later spec. Also muzzle brakes are fun.

Looks like this guy's Ak is on the T-90, and he has a pimped up Ak instead.



https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/684278575516770304

The important bit is actually the other AK, it's an Iranian KL rifle on a T90A...

fragmachine wrote:Times are sweet for Grunwald 2.0 type battle, would be so nice to shape Teutons ugly faces with swords again

Yeah, funny enough winners of Grunwald battle now are more or less impotent when it comes to military

Regular wrote:

fragmachine wrote:Times are sweet for Grunwald 2.0 type battle, would be so nice to shape Teutons ugly faces with swords again

Yeah, funny enough winners of Grunwald battle now are more or less impotent when it comes to military

Well, not really. When it comes down to equipment, surely, imports kills the industry. At least Patria is produced locally, though it is not country design.
But you don't need tanks, artillery and airforce to beat even ones of the best equipped armies in the world, do you? Take a Houthis for example...

You could tell back in 1410 that Commonwealth will beat Teutons in one of the biggest medieval  cavalry battle, all would laught you off. Biggest mistake Teutons made is that they didn't expected war and were caught off guard.



Anyway, I don't see a hope for Poland in this shape and form. Most Poles are more afraid of unpredictable Germany than any "eastern invasion', even though Germans are more liberal right now than at any point in their history.
EU is really on the crossroads now and it is disintegrating at faster pace than I've could imagine. There are going to be harder times for country, policy will change dozens of times in next decade I guess..