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    Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #7

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    Post  Kadmos45 Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:17 pm

    Regular wrote:
    fragmachine wrote:Times are sweet for Grunwald 2.0 type battle, would be so nice to shape Teutons ugly faces with swords again lol1
    Yeah, funny enough winners of Grunwald battle now are more or less impotent when it comes to military

    Meh teutons can't even defend their maedchens from coupla arabs wanted to ficki ficki fucku fucku nowadays Laughing



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    Post  magnumcromagnon Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:36 am

    Turkey Suffers Losses, Prepares Complaint Against Russia to the WTO
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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:33 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Turkey Suffers Losses, Prepares Complaint Against Russia to the WTO

    Oh really? lol1

    Where is that crusader meme we argued about before? Razz
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:40 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:Turkey Suffers Losses, Prepares Complaint Against Russia to the WTO

    Oh really? lol1

    Where is that crusader meme we argued about before? Razz

    Better yet revive the Treaty of Sèvres... Twisted Evil

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:37 pm

    Russia no impact Smile

    Daesh profits from the illegal oil trade have dropped by 30 percent as a result of the US-led coalition airstrike campaign dubbed Tidal Wave II, Operation Inherent Resolve spokesperson Col. Steven Warren told reporters on Wednesday.

    WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — "We assessed this [coalition] operation has reduced their [Islamic State]revenue by about 30 percent," Warren stated. The spokesperson has explained that the Daesh, produced 45,000 barrels of oil per day before the Tidal Wave II that targets terrorists’ oil infrastructure. "It [the production] has been reduced to about 34,000 barrels per day now," Warren said.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160106/1032767608/daesh-oil-pentagon.html#ixzz3wUTepO4i
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    Post  short_fuze Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:48 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Russia no impact Smile

    Daesh profits from the illegal oil trade have dropped by 30 percent as a result of the US-led coalition airstrike campaign dubbed Tidal Wave II, Operation Inherent Resolve spokesperson Col. Steven Warren told reporters on Wednesday.

    WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — "We assessed this [coalition] operation has reduced their [Islamic State]revenue by about 30 percent," Warren stated. The spokesperson has explained that the Daesh, produced 45,000 barrels of oil per day before the Tidal Wave II that targets terrorists’ oil infrastructure. "It [the production] has been reduced to about 34,000 barrels per day now," Warren said.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160106/1032767608/daesh-oil-pentagon.html#ixzz3wUTepO4i

    Some have moved to Libya to take over oil processing to make up for lost profits.

    http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/isis-expands-its-control-over-the-libyan-coast-bin-jawad-captured/



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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:35 pm


    Rys in SAA,

    Also, snow WTF???

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:52 pm

    short_fuze wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Russia no impact Smile

    Daesh profits from the illegal oil trade have dropped by 30 percent as a result of the US-led coalition airstrike campaign dubbed Tidal Wave II, Operation Inherent Resolve spokesperson Col. Steven Warren told reporters on Wednesday.

    WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — "We assessed this [coalition] operation has reduced their [Islamic State]revenue by about 30 percent," Warren stated. The spokesperson has explained that the Daesh, produced 45,000 barrels of oil per day before the Tidal Wave II that targets terrorists’ oil infrastructure. "It [the production] has been reduced to about 34,000 barrels per day now," Warren said.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160106/1032767608/daesh-oil-pentagon.html#ixzz3wUTepO4i

    Some have moved to Libya to take over oil processing to make up for lost profits.

    http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/isis-expands-its-control-over-the-libyan-coast-bin-jawad-captured/

    Interestingly different aspect of the oil business in Libya vs Syria if you need to 'steal' it.

    In Syria it is (alleged to be) transported in hundreds/thousands of trucks to a nearby country where it is 'processed' and pumped into tankers as now 'legal' oil and distributed. The only acceptable way of stopping it is destroying it before it becomes 'legal'.

    In Libya there is no nearby country to 'legalise' stolen oil, it has to be shipped straight out by tanker. So it is still stolen oil in the tanker. So what happens? Do the ships of the many Navies patrolling the Libyan coast seize or sink the tankers? Not that we hear about. Do the tankers bribe the Navy ships? Not that we hear about. Has someone higher up agreed to let them through? Not that we would ever hear about that.

    So, how do we think ISIS will turn that oil into cash?
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    Post  sheytanelkebir Wed Jan 06, 2016 10:29 pm

    there are indeed tankers directly loading up oil from various "non governmental" entities in Libya and have been doing so for at least 2 years now.

    the "world" doesn't stop it... however some of the libyan factions have indeed attacked these tankers with their few remaining mirages and mig-23s.


    oil can be paid for in bitcoins and other cryptocurrencies.
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    Post  par far Wed Jan 06, 2016 10:57 pm

    sheytanelkebir wrote:there are indeed tankers directly loading up oil from various "non governmental" entities in Libya and have been doing so for at least 2 years now.

    the "world" doesn't stop it... however some of the libyan factions have indeed attacked these tankers with their few remaining mirages and mig-23s.


    oil can be paid for in bitcoins and other cryptocurrencies.


    The west has taken most of Libya's oil, gold and anything that had value, there is some oil left in Libya, not a hole lot(I was reading about how Libya was robbed and it was mentioned in it). This is why I support all the refugees coming into western countries, I just wish there were more.
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    Post  kvs Wed Jan 06, 2016 11:16 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Russia no impact Smile

    Daesh profits from the illegal oil trade have dropped by 30 percent as a result of the US-led coalition airstrike campaign dubbed Tidal Wave II, Operation Inherent Resolve spokesperson Col. Steven Warren told reporters on Wednesday.

    WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — "We assessed this [coalition] operation has reduced their [Islamic State]revenue by about 30 percent," Warren stated. The spokesperson has explained that the Daesh, produced 45,000 barrels of oil per day before the Tidal Wave II that targets terrorists’ oil infrastructure. "It [the production] has been reduced to about 34,000 barrels per day now," Warren said.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160106/1032767608/daesh-oil-pentagon.html#ixzz3wUTepO4i

    Yeah, sure. That 30% number is really credible coming from a source that attributes all the damage to the clowns who never did the bombing.
    You will note that the coalition of dodgy opportunists rounded by Uncle Scam has stopped bombing because of the S-400. So the Turdkey
    attack on the Russian bomber over Syria was part of a ploy to give the dodgy opportunists a pretext to not bomb Daesh oil assets.
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    Post  short_fuze Thu Jan 07, 2016 12:09 am

    sheytanelkebir wrote:there are indeed tankers directly loading up oil from various "non governmental" entities in Libya and have been doing so for at least 2 years now.

    the "world" doesn't stop it... however some of the libyan factions have indeed attacked these tankers with their few remaining mirages and mig-23s.


    oil can be paid for in bitcoins and other cryptocurrencies.

    I wonder if any of Erdogan's tankers have been involved?

    Maybe the shipping equivalent of FlightRadar has clues?

    http://www.marinetraffic.com
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    Post  short_fuze Thu Jan 07, 2016 12:47 am

    Many more pictures of the house with the brown roof near Latakia

    https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://rusvesna.su/news/1452034292&usg=ALkJrhjyAgu14klaujjf7n6tUj2a7eOusg

    The details of the surroundings may be sufficeint to locate it on Google Earth
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    Post  Zivo Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:27 am

    short_fuze wrote:Many more pictures of the house with the brown roof near Latakia

    https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://rusvesna.su/news/1452034292&usg=ALkJrhjyAgu14klaujjf7n6tUj2a7eOusg

    The details of the surroundings may be sufficeint to locate it on Google Earth

    I gave it a whirl, but couldn't find the exact spot. It's definitely in the area around the airbase based on the terrain.

    Even if I could find the location, which could probably be done, I wouldn't post it online. I wouldn't want a mortar landing on this guy's house.
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    Post  Guest Thu Jan 07, 2016 2:29 am

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    SU34 in Syria apparently
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    Post  ult Thu Jan 07, 2016 2:39 pm

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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:49 pm

    ult wrote:

    Most of the planes are parked, looks like it Christmas in Latakia too. santa
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    Post  JohninMK Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:47 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:

    Most of the planes are parked, looks like it Christmas in Latakia too. santa
    Looks a lot colder than it has been as well.
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    Post  Aldin_Aba Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:10 pm

    I found location of the house and if you guys want it i can post it here. Wink I also use this to locate militant positions. russia Smile
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:21 am



    Russia helps shift balance against rebels in southern Syria

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/69cb93de-b552-11e5-8358-9a82b43f6b2f.html#axzz3wax22LGD

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/69cb93de-b552-11e5-8358-9a82b43f6b2f.html#ixzz3wbUbSIhd

    President Bashar al-Assad’s forces are making a new push in southern Syria with the help of Russian air cover in a move that could not only weaken one of the country’s remaining rebel strongholds, but also threaten the balance of power on a combustible border with Israel.

    The growing Russian role in the south has surprised many regional diplomats who believed Moscow had an understanding with Syria’s southern neighbours, Jordan and Israel, not to extend into their sphere of influence.

    Rebels from Syria’s Southern Front alliance say they too were surprised to become the target of the new campaign: their forces are directly supplied by the Military Operations Command (MOC), an operations room staffed by Arab and western military forces, including the US.

    “They (MOC) should be nervous,” says Abu Ghayath al-Shami, a spokesman for the Southern Front’s Seif al-Sham Brigades. “This area was one of their last cards, the one area where there was still a functioning relationship between the rebels and the international community.”

    The warring sides of Syria’s five-year civil war are expected to head into peace talks in the coming weeks, and rebels believe Mr Assad and Russia want to gain as much territory — and with it, leverage — ahead of them.

    Syria analyst Joshua Landis, at the University of Oklahoma, argues Damascus’s aims go further. “The regime is not going to compromise on talks. They now think they’re going to win on the battlefield, and that Russia is taking them to the finish line,” he said.

    For Israel, there are more immediate concerns. Along with Syrian military forces trying to advance come a vast array of militia that rebels and the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights say is composed of Iranian-backed militia — mostly the powerful Lebanese Shia group Hizbollah. Israel believes Hizbollah and Iran’s Revolutionary Guard seek to open a front against it.

    “If the Assad regime takes the entire Golan back, that could be Iran’s way to put in a second front and a second Gaza or a second southern Lebanon, to keep Israel busy,” says Daniel Nisman, an Israeli security analyst with the Levantine Group.

    The battle is focused on the town of al-Shaikh Maskin, a strategic area that lies on one of the main supply routes from the capital Damascus to the southern city of Deraa. “Losing al-Shaikh Maskin would be like losing the entire south,” Mr Shami said.

    Both Israel and Russia are keen to avoid conflict, and many analysts suspect Moscow communicated some kind of guarantee that Iran and Hizbollah would stay away from the Golan Heights. But if rebel reports of increased militia involvement are accurate, Russia may not be able to keep that promise.

    That risks sparking a much messier cross-border conflict in the south. Israel has carried out several unacknowledged air strikes inside Syria against Hizbollah and Iranian forces — including since Russia’s entry into the war, when suspected Israeli strikes struck a residential building outside Damascus and killed Samir Kantar, a prominent militant close to Hizbollah. Most Israel observers believe it will continue such operations if it feels threatened.
    Syria south map

    Not all of Syria’s neighbours seem worried. Amman, which has facilitated the Southern Front’s work, could be content for Russian-backed forces to secure the area. Jordan may even see Moscow as a better guarantor of its security than the rebel groups who currently control the south.

    “When Russia intervened in Syria, Jordan was among the few Arab countries that were not against this intervention,” said Oraib Al Rantawi, director of the Al-Quds Centre for Political Studies in Amman. “Jordan has strong ties with Russia . . . there is a feeling we can deal with one of the superpowers in this area better than the way we did with the others.”

    The Southern Front was long seen as one of the last bastions of Syria’s moderate rebel forces, which have largely been overtaken by radical jihadi groups such as Isis and Kurdish militia carving out territory in the north. But a much-hyped offensive to retake Deraa this summer failed due to internal fragmentation and disorganisation that angered their backers, especially Jordan.

    Rebels have managed to regroup and push back, which they say shows they still have the upper hand. But other observers say that success may not hold. With a US-led coalition fighting off the jihadi threat of Isis for him, Mr Assad can focus more on the rebels seeking his removal. Even with Russia helping it strike western-backed forces, there has been no response.

    “America basically conceded to Russia,” Mr Landis said. “How can Russia lose?”

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    Post  GarryB Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:53 am

    I found location of the house and if you guys want it i can post it here. Wink I also use this to locate militant positions.

    No need to post his location... just the fact that you found it means it is not photoshop.

    BTW welcome to the forum... it is a forum rule that your first post should be an introduction in the introductions section. Too late now, but please take the time to introduce yourself and read through the rules and perhaps skim some of the other member introductions so you know who you are talking to Smile

    Note, please make your own thread in the intro section for your introduction.
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    Post  JohninMK Fri Jan 08, 2016 1:40 am

    ult wrote:
    That Su-24 has a row of red stars now. Think one of the junior technicians is getting a lot of practice painting them on lots of aircraft.
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    Post  franco Fri Jan 08, 2016 1:50 am

    JohninMK wrote:
    ult wrote:
    That Su-24 has a row of red stars now. Think one of the junior technicians is getting a lot of practice painting them on lots of aircraft.

    I read the other day each star represents 10 missions.

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