Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #8

PapaDragon wrote:

For those of you without ignore list  

The little aggravated zit on a half dolla prostitute's nether regions has been on my ignore list for a long time, it and it's many clones. Anyone who reads his erudite pontifications must feel like the Biblical Philistines, flayed by the jawbone of an ass.

In Syria there is only 1 internationally legal authority and that is the Syrian Arab Republic. Putin crossed the line when he gave air support to rebels, moderate or not. Putin leaves Assad high and dry and refuses to help his internationally legal ally Assad take back all of Syria from terrorists. Fine, then Assad should become a puppet of America. America always always backs its allies through rough and thin. Syria was 1 out of only 11 countries that voted Crimea referendum was legitimate at the UNGA in March 2014. This shows how Putin pisses everyone off and fails to back Russia's allies. This is why Assad should ditch Russia and become friends with America and have American bases in Syria. Why be ally with someone who will stab you in the back?

ultron wrote:Su-24, Su-25, Su-34 are all pulled out. SAA will be in big trouble when Nusra attacks today or tomorrow. Putin will sit back and watch Assad lose Hama city. Putin shows Assad he is nothing without Russian help.  

http://ria.ru/syria_mission/20160315/1389976995.html

http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/al-nusra-front-promises-renewed-assault-following-russian-pullout-syria-1961680726

Indeed that will be really embarrassing .

Putin is a disgrace , he basically capitulated to the demands of US and its Gulf Allies
of not retaking northern Syria. And the midget Putin gave Assad the middle finger . Again
Putin Under estimate his enemies , Russia will have to return to save Latakia from being
Overrun.

Being very generous in analysis ,it could be said is an "unknown strategy" , to lure the terrorist
away from its caves   knowing no more bombs will hit them. and that there is a hidden army of 20,000 Russians ready to take idlib but i don't think so.

The image of Russia in the world will go downhill , as a nation that you cannot that count
absolutely for nothing. They might sell you weapons ,and give you a hand here or there for a little bit ,but is not something that you can really count as a help.  

This is why i really think Russia deserve to be isolated in the world . Serbia should show
Putin the middle Finger and join NATO . And same with Georgia ,Ukraine ,Kazakistan .
So Russia understand we live in a world ,that if you don't lead , you become a follower.

In other words , Russian policies are very dangerous for other nations ,because give them false
hopes and a false confidence. Assad is only attacked by NATO and muslins gulf states ,because they want a gas pipeline from Saudi Arabia to Europe and it needs to travel using northern Syrian territory and from there to Turkey and then Europe. all this to To bypass Gazprom .   Assad should now agree with that pipeline in change for end of the war ,and try to get a good commission and show the middle finger to Russia.

Syria is the way it is ,because Assad was too noble and consider its relations and allies sacred
and refused to betray IRAN or Russia interest. and this is what they got. a backstab from Russia and IRAN too ,which the latest one had a signed defense pact that clearly state that if any foreign nation invades Syria that IRAN will use its army to defend them. And Turkey army already invaded a few hundreds meters inside Syria. Most of Syria not retaken and Russia help was merely only enough to delay for a little bit the final outcome of the collapse of Syria.

Russia last move ,only seen one of gaining some time ,a few months ,to delay their inevitable war with NATO. Maybe Russia have hopes Trump will win and will save them from a major war.
we will see  .but i will not be surprised if Syria start losing territory again.  Since the Syrian airforce cannot cover all parts of Syria at the same time. For now on , only a miracle will save Syria from totally collapsing,or simply Luck ,and no country will come to its aid.  So there should be no celebrations in Russia.

This is a really shameful chapter of Russia history...  And it only confirms , what i was saying
to Gary , that if Russia really wants to oppose NATO expansion and isolation of Russia from the world..as it will happen.it can only do it by creating more military bases in the world on countries it have interest.  Had Russia had the military base in latakia since 2011 , with a dozen of tactical planes there. Idlib and Aleppo will have never fallen and Syria will be in a much stronger position today controlling most of its territory.

Again if Russia refuse to take a leadership position in the world ,then someone else will do it ,
and it will not be in the interest of Russia. In other words.. it means that Putin ,neither Lavrov
can't complain about the western leadership in the world if they refuse to be a leader .

BRICS is nothing but horse shit and China will not move a finger in aid of Russia in case of war .
I think we all can summarize the world is doomed if the only nation that can do something to Stop US , goes running from any conflict at the first opportunity they have.

I always wondered why Russia president is 5'7" when Russians are generally tall? Must he be Russia's president? Is there no one who can do a better job as Russia's president? I think there is. Maybe most Russian people don't care about politics and don't bother voting.

Rebels mock Putin. They say they will kill Assad the way they killed Najibullah.

PapaDragon wrote:
200 sorties y'all !!!



https://twitter.com/miladvisor/status/709783199434452992  

Mine is bigger!

I knew it was all over when Putin announced ceasefire and stopped attacking rebels, including Nusra and IS. Putin lost Ukraine, and now Syria. It's a pity he had good chances to push forward and win at the end, but he chose to quit when he was ahead. I will never get Putin. He is not a rational man. Anyhow, the Syria chapter is over. May the best of luck for Russia in the future.

Russia sold out Iran and Hezbollah BIG time.

https://twitter.com/Elizrael/status/709861719124922368

an analysis from yesterday

Militarov wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
200 sorties y'all !!!



https://twitter.com/miladvisor/status/709783199434452992  

Mine is bigger!

That's it, you spotted the real reason those planes were brought home. They are running out of star space

I expect at least one will be on its way back to the factory for deep analysis.

JohninMK wrote:

Militarov wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
200 sorties y'all !!!



https://twitter.com/miladvisor/status/709783199434452992  

Mine is bigger!

That's it, you spotted the real reason those planes were brought home. They are running out of star space

I expect at least one will be on its way back to the factory for deep analysis.

So 25 has done 330 missions (10 per star)? Strewth Bruce!  

short_fuze wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

Militarov wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
200 sorties y'all !!!

Mine is bigger!

That's it, you spotted the real reason those planes were brought home. They are running out of star space

I expect at least one will be on its way back to the factory for deep analysis.

So 25 has done 330 missions (10 per star)? Strewth Bruce!  

Wonder how many Western aircraft could take that work rate?

The parachute packers deserve a medal

Lest we forget. Two servicemen were martyred in the Syria op. A pilot and a marine. RIP.

ultron wrote:Lest we forget. Two servicemen were martyred in the Syria op. A pilot and a marine. RIP.

4 actually. Marine, pilot, one instructor died in mortar fire and one suicide.

JohninMK wrote:

short_fuze wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

Militarov wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
200 sorties y'all !!!

Mine is bigger!

That's it, you spotted the real reason those planes were brought home. They are running out of star space

I expect at least one will be on its way back to the factory for deep analysis.

So 25 has done 330 missions (10 per star)? Strewth Bruce!  

Wonder how many Western aircraft could take that work rate?

The parachute packers deserve a medal

Not to mention the guy with the star stencil, paintbrush and tin of red paint. H emust have been working overtime.

Militarov wrote:

ultron wrote:Lest we forget. Two servicemen were martyred in the Syria op. A pilot and a marine. RIP.

4 actually. Marine, pilot, one instructor died in mortar fire and one suicide.

3 martyred in combat. May their sacrifices not be in vain. Saudi Arabia tries to replace Assad with an anti Russia president like Saudi Arabia did in Yemen replacing Saleh with Hadi. If Assad is ousted without a fair election, then their sacrifices would be in vain.

If a nuclear war start.. like the video Ultron uploaded claims.. "that Russia left Syria for preparations for a nuclear war with US. " , the first thing people will discover is that Nuclear weapons cannot win wars , is not enough. At least when it comes to US and Russia. Nations of that size can taken a thousand of nuclear attacks and continue standing its government .
The real question ,the real danger to the future of that country nuked , either US or RUssia or both. Will be the reaction of people.. If the people are united with the Government or not.

This is why is so important for Russia government the public opinion , to show they support peace and constructive dialogue. To really explain its people why of their support to Syria
and Donetsk and Crimea. So that the national consensus is favorable to the government and in
case of a major world war.. that the government will be united with its people and not fighting it.

This means that it will be under Russia national interest ,to not be the first one ,to launch a
nuclear attack. So that they can use any coward attack on Russia territory to unite all Russians behind the government ,even in the case of a nuclear war , and that people do not revolt or try
to start a civil war and overthrow the government .

The case of United States is totally different. over there ,Neocons knows that its own citizens
will become weapons against them..if the white house provokes/start a war with Russia and many americans killed. You will see revolution of millions in all streets in America ,blaming Obama for the killing of many americans in a war with Russia, and police and the army will not be able to handle it. because americans are really fed up ,its majority with US warmongering
in the world and provoking other nations to fight and for totaling ignoring them.

So this is the reason why US troops are training in US cities ,how to control the millions
of protest they expect.. either consequence of US dollar collapse or consequence of they
starting a war with RUssia. So effectively a civilian full scale revolution of many millions
demanding the government to step down , can be much more deadly for the future of a nation
than the biggest nuclear weapon of Russia or US. In such riots police will not be able to control
cities and every civilian will be armed.. and the loots on stores and business will totally sent to the floor the economy of US and the loyalty towards the government will end. So a major revolution in US by Americans can be more destructive than all the inventory of nuclear weapons of Russia. Because the nation will split in many parts ,and the unity will NOT be recovered. It will be worse than the first American Revolution because every state will declare
its independence from white house. and some might unite to form their own country with their own currency. So from this point of view , Russia do have every chance to become the winner
even in a nuclear war and most cities destroyed. Because just like in world war 2 , under Stalling ,society opinion was on the side of unity with the government. This is not the case
of US ,neither the case of Turkey or Ukraine. all those nations will have ALL the chance to disband and cease to exist ,if a major world world start . Because usually when major world wars start ,is the best moment for all nations to solve its territorial issues ,when the international community and media is busy with the big wars and not remotely interested in the
smaller ones.

So in case of a world war between US and RUssia, Internet and the media will be the first casualty of it. Because as i said the most dangerous weapon will be public opinion and revolutions of civilians ,not happy with their government policies in the world.

In my opinion Putin talks to his enemies too much. Stop talking to the US. Stop talking to Turkey. Stop talking to Saudi Arabia. Stop talking to Israel. Talk to Iran and Syria instead. Differentiate friend from enemy. Another thing is, please, no more ceasefire when winning. That is all. Xaxa out.

sepheronx wrote:Wow... So we get confirmation the airbase will stay and so will multiple pieces of equipment including jets, and already Russia is doing more bombing runs since withdrawal of Some aircraft, and we have people saying Putin gave up and gave in?  I know you guys can read English for crying out loud.

The airbase in Latakia is empty with only a support center left for monitoring ceasefire which does not do anything. Only the Shayrat base has a few Hinds left to fight IS in eastern Homs.