Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #9

Looks suspicioulsy like US CH-47 hit in Iraq.

KoTeMoRe wrote:Looks suspicioulsy like US CH-47 hit in Iraq.

Yep. Thanks for the point out KoTeMoRe. Islamic State of Iraq hitting a CH-47 back in 07. So the Kurds dubbed the video over and put their logo over the watermark.

Went and checked myself...So it is 2007 CH-47 and it also DID crash.

Zivo wrote:

JohninMK wrote:Different take on the Syrian army from WiB. Not the best of sites but what do you make of these extracts with the claimed Russian contribution? Sounds a bit like Ukraine, a magic 10K, but this contains actual unit names. No data on the sources.

The 4th Assault Corps also includes the Nusr Az Zawba’a Brigade of the SSNP and two brigades of the Ba’ath Party Militia, or BPM. Because these units lacked in firepower, they were reinforced by Russian army artillery batteries drawn from the 8th Artillery Regiment, the 120th Artillery Brigade, the 439th Guards Rocket Artillery Brigade and the 20th Rocket Regiment — the latter equipped with the TOS-1A.

To lessen the strain upon this force, four battalion-size task forces — drawn from the Russian 28th, 32nd, and the 34th Motor Rifle Brigades and the 810th Marines Brigade — secured the secondary lines and supply depots.

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Essentially, all are private military companies, financed by businessmen close to Al Assad. Their operations in the eastern Homs and Palmyra areas are supported by battalion-size elements of the Russian 61st Marine Brigade and the 74th Guards Motor Rifle Brigade.

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Ironically, the IRGC’s fire brigade in this part of Syria is the Al Qods of the PLA Brigade. These units are supported by Russian army troops, too, including those from the 27th Guards Motor Rifle Brigade and the 7th Guards Assault Division and several artillery batteries.

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Correspondingly, there is hardly anything to be seen of the actual SAA and very little of the NDF. It’s unlikely that Al Assad has more than 70,000 troops left under his command.

On the contrary, while Iranians are said to have about 18,000 troops in Syria, considering the average size of the brigades they and Iraqi Shi’a are deploying there, they more likely to oversee at least 40,000 combatants.

On the top of this all, one should not ignore the Russian military presence, which is also larger than media usually report. In addition to the units listed above, Moscow’s forces include elements of no fewer than four Spetsnaz brigades — the 3rd, 16th, 22nd and 24th, primarily responsible for the Hmemmem and Sanobar air bases near Latakia and Shayrat air base in southeastern Homs.

All told, the Russians have at least 10,000 — and more likely up to 15,000 — troops in Syria.

https://warisboring.com/whats-left-of-the-syrian-arab-army-eec39485df43#.aa7myylwx

A whole lot of BS.

70,000 troops. No. The Lebanese Army is 100,000, and pulls from a much smaller population. SAA and NDF are going to be well over 100k

"On the contrary, while Iranians are said to have about 18,000 troops in Syria"... and only ~350 have been killed since the start of the war.

FFS what did I told you about warisboring?

WHAT? last time it was about the DP28 being a Lewis gun "derivative"...now Russians have more people in Syria than in Ukraine...I mean come the fucking on!

Yes these are the images that I saw.

Sorry, I do not know if the source is PKK related, but in this case, it would be illegal to link it under the laws where I'm, with risk of being charged for 6 years of jail by collaboration with terrorism.

While this can happen:

http://ww4report.com/node/14174

OK, this one is sending the irony meter into full tilt. Two Spanish volunteers who went to Iraq to fight ISIS at Sinjar (presumably alongside PKK forces) in an "International Brigade" were arrested upon their return to Madrid and face charges of... (wait for it)... membership in a "terrorist organization"!

The former dictator and genocide Francisco Franco, and the fascist leader Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera rest in a big monument with fresh flowers every day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valle_de_los_Ca%C3%ADdos (it was a francoist concentration camp with forced labour during its construction)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Antonio_Primo_de_Rivera

Ivan the Colorado wrote:
Yep. Thanks for the point out KoTeMoRe. Islamic State of Iraq hitting a CH-47 back in 07. So the Kurds dubbed the video over and put their logo over the watermark.

It's not actually a CH-47 Chinook, it's a CH-46 Sea Knight.

Boshoed wrote:

Ivan the Colorado wrote:
Yep. Thanks for the point out KoTeMoRe. Islamic State of Iraq hitting a CH-47 back in 07. So the Kurds dubbed the video over and put their logo over the watermark.

It's not actually a CH-47 Chinook, it's a CH-46 Sea Knight.

USMC special...indeed.

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/02/07/iraq.main/index.html

GarryB wrote:

Sorry, I do not know if the source is PKK related, but in this case, it would be illegal to link it under the laws where I'm, with risk of being charged for 6 years of jail by collaboration with terrorism.

What a stupid law... I read every post and there are are no posters here who support terrorists... even ones the west does not recognise like the US military...  

US army fights terrorists as competitors using monopolistic position in their market niche

BTW New Zeland´s version of Russian AF & Beorn VDV attacking moderate orcs

KoTeMoRe wrote:
FFS what did I told you about warisboring?

WHAT? last time it was about the DP28 being a Lewis gun "derivative"...now Russians have more people in Syria than in Ukraine...I mean come the fucking on!

Yes I know.

But, given that is possible that many on here do not have the time or inclination to monitor sites like WiB, FA, ZH, Drive, VT etc, don't you think it might be useful, to perhaps gain a more balanced view, if they were made aware of what is being promulgated in the West when the infrequent but relevant topics to threads on this Forum appear on them?

Incidently, there is a very good article on the OV-10 Bronco there atm.

Yes, one Turkish Chinnok has been assembled, however its not in service, let alone in combat areas.

''#Russia #Syria checkpoint at the Russian base entrance in #Palmyra''

https://mobile.twitter.com/Ald_Aba/status/733271744375623681

Shoigu press

- Russia may start striking terrorist groups in Syria unilaterally on May 25
- Russian demining experts return from Palmyra, leave behind group to train Syrian military
- Unimpeded crossing of Turkish-Syrian border by Jabhat al-Nusra militants destabilizes situation in Syria
- Russia proposes U.S. to start on May 25 joined actions by Russian Aerospace Forces, U.S.-led coalition to eliminate Jabhat Al-Nusra, other armed groups by air strikes
- U.S. in Syria managed to get 138 armed groups to join ceasefire regime
- Ceasefire regime is largely observed in most Syrian provinces
- Commanders of 59 armed "moderate" opposition units in Syria signed lists on joining ceasefire
- AGREEMENTS ON RECONCILIATION REACHED WITH LEADERS OF 112 RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES IN SYRIA

franco wrote:Shoigu press

- Russia may start striking terrorist groups in Syria unilaterally on May 25
- Russian demining experts return from Palmyra, leave behind group to train Syrian military
- Unimpeded crossing of Turkish-Syrian border by Jabhat al-Nusra militants destabilizes situation in Syria
- Russia proposes U.S. to start on May 25 joined actions by Russian Aerospace Forces, U.S.-led coalition to eliminate Jabhat Al-Nusra, other armed groups by air strikes
- U.S. in Syria managed to get 138 armed groups to join ceasefire regime
- Ceasefire regime is largely observed in most Syrian provinces
- Commanders of 59 armed "moderate" opposition units in Syria signed lists on joining ceasefire
- AGREEMENTS ON RECONCILIATION REACHED WITH LEADERS OF 112 RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES IN SYRIA

This has the potential to be a brilliant move.

The US government was gambling on a Libya scenario, overthrowing Assad and then sifting through the terrorist groups afterwards. With the ceasefire, russia called a time out and forced the US to separate the "good" rebels from the bad. Those groups that were too radical to sign the ceasefire, like JAN, now can not be considered even by the US government, as "moderates", as they themselves failed to bring JAN and the like to the negotiating table. The islamist militias are by far the most competent and effective fighting force of the rebels, so by isolating them diplomatically and now militarily, the rebels could very well be defanged in the near future.

So party might be back on on the 25th? Nice

PapaDragon wrote:
So party might be back on on the 25th? Nice

The post count here had dramatically dropped. At least we were able to do something else in the time we didn't waste reading here.

US Has No Agreement to Conduct Joint Airstrikes With Russia in Syria - DoS

http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160520/1039996006/us-russia-airstrikes-syria.html

Masculine Psaki i.e. adm Kirby in his daily  twirly-whirlies  said no agreement on joint strikes. So US is not allowed to fly over Syria anymore in areas where RuAF operates?

JohninMK wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
So party might be back on on the 25th? Nice

The post count here had dramatically dropped. At least we were able to do something else in the time we didn't waste reading here.

too late i am back

JohninMK wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
So party might be back on on the 25th? Nice

The post count here had dramatically dropped. At least we were able to do something else in the time we didn't waste reading here.

I miss the good old days when we were packin' five pages a day here and psychopaths in Syria were screaming ''Winter is coming!!!'' on YouTube...

Interior view from the commander of a T-90, eliminating a rebel position. Make sure to set it to 720p.



It looks very similar to the grain silos near Khan Tuman. If you watch carefully at 00:45, just above and slightly to the right of center of the crosshair, you can see enemy movement. They put the shell right on them.

Zivo wrote:Interior view from the commander of a T-90, eliminating a rebel position. Make sure to set it to 720p.



It looks very similar to the grain silos near Khan Tuman. If you watch carefully at 00:45, just above and slightly to the right of center of the crosshair, you can see enemy movement. They put the shell right on them.

would this mean they recovered the stricken T90? Also if these guys are taking selfie vids while fighting...holy shit, no wonder there's issues.

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Zivo wrote:Interior view from the commander of a T-90, eliminating a rebel position. Make sure to set it to 720p.



It looks very similar to the grain silos near Khan Tuman. If you watch carefully at 00:45, just above and slightly to the right of center of the crosshair, you can see enemy movement. They put the shell right on them.

would this mean they recovered the stricken T90? Also if these guys are taking selfie vids while fighting...holy shit, no wonder there's issues.

It could be another T-90, no way to tell.

This is crazy.. Russia again is showing is back on its enemies ,playing a dangerous game ,
so they can more easily backstab them. First it was Turkey ,by bombing close to its borders ,without any precaution of Turkey movements. Now they allowing americans to do bomb close to its military base and closer to Syrian arab army positions.  The Syrian army have to be incredibly
pissed at this  moment for this risky decision of putin , on their lives. Russia offering their
Americans "partners" to fly above Syrian army positions , nothing can stop them from bombing
Syrian troops or even Russian soldiers and later say.. Opps.. it was a "mistake" we bombed a hundred of your soldiers.


We can only hope for a miracle ,because thats what Russia will need exactly to get
out of the trap they have created for themselves .

Putin policies are only inviting Americans to do more and more against them. It was a big mistake for Russia to disconnect from the Syrian Conflict for 4 years and allow them
to lose so much territory ,before sending any help. the only positive thing i see is the experience
Russia will get in this conflict in how not to trust in Americans.   Putin allowed Americans to continue its moderate propaganda , and now inviting them to joinly fly over Syrian army positions to "fight" alnusra.

Will be really really interesting to listen the Russian military ,opinions about the whole war.
Because will not be surprised of major protest against Putin/Lavrov policies there of trusting so much in Americans. The first signs of a major breakup in Russia alliance happened ,with Hezbolah quiting from fighting in Aleppo ,will Iranians like to see American planes fly over their positions?

It looks like Russia wants to retreat from the war pretty much and is ready to negotiate cities for peace. Not that Syria have much options left ,with so many traitors that have joined the terrorist and so many citizens that have preferred to be refugees that to fight for their land . Russia definitively do not want to fight a full scale war in support of the Syrian failed state.

So far it looks like in the long run ,even with all the advances of Russia is securing the existence
of Syria from a total collapse ,the americans will at least get most of northen Syria away from Assad cotrol. Because they know giving a lot to them.

The only other thing im curious is about the kurds PKK , are they really terrorist like Europe claim? That kill civilians women and children? It will be really bad is Russia provide weapons
to them and later they end doing exactly the same ISIS does on Syrians.

sepheronx wrote:Traffic at Hmaymim Airbase increases as Russians prepare to strike  https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/traffic-hmaymim-airbase-expected-increase-russia-prepares-strike/ | Al-Masdar News

It was about time - hopefully we will be surprised once more (like with those Kalibr missiles from Caspian sea)

sepheronx wrote:Traffic at Hmaymim Airbase increases as Russians prepare to strike  https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/traffic-hmaymim-airbase-expected-increase-russia-prepares-strike/ | Al-Masdar News

How reliable is this news site? Also there are reports of a high ranking US cocksucker going to Syria, for plans to push for Al-Raqqa, if this is true, than I think the two are related.