Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #11

calm wrote:.....................
Russians need to be extra careful in those parts of Syria, it is not like in Latakia/Tartous.

PapaDragon wrote:
ISIS claims it capture two Russian soldiers in the attack on Deir Ezzor highway

https://twitter.com/WithinSyriaBlog/status/913362384932175873


If true it will be apex of unsurprising cumulative fuckups that resulted from putting troops on the ground.

Already too many dead. This one will be a shitstorm should video surface.

lycantrop wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
ISIS claims it capture two Russian soldiers in the attack on Deir Ezzor highway

https://twitter.com/WithinSyriaBlog/status/913362384932175873


If true it will be apex of unsurprising cumulative fuckups that resulted from putting troops on the ground.

Already too many dead. This one will be a shitstorm should video surface.

Hell will be unleashed if they dare to do something stupid.

lycantrop wrote:Russia should go "full retard" and fire salvos of Iskander missiles on every HQ/warehouse... of this subanimals, dont know why they are so reluctant.

JohninMK wrote:Some pretty close in CAS support in this embedded video.

https://twitter.com/rofoca_lucifuge/status/913160347317501952

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/video-key-jihadist-stronghold-near-turkish-border-intensely-bombed-russian-jets/

Also, what is this weapon?


https://t.co/prpsaTKg8K
https://cdn.almasdarnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/1015.jpg

lycantrop wrote:russians also dont fight them with 100% effectivness, are they afraid of uncle sam or what?

for example:

Each time they send an T-95 bear from russia, who fly through Iran/Iraq all the way down to syria air, is carrying only 1-2 K-101 cruise missiles.
What the hell are they doing? Its a waste of ressources/time/effectivness....
T-95 Bear can carry up to 12 missiles of this type!
They are sending a T-95 from far away only to blow up 1-2 targets, what a waste!
I dont believe they cant determine 5-10 targets and blow them up in one route.

auslander wrote:

lycantrop wrote:russians also dont fight them with 100% effectivness, are they afraid of uncle sam or what?

for example:

Each time they send an T-95 bear from russia, who fly through Iran/Iraq all the way down to syria air, is carrying only 1-2 K-101 cruise missiles.
What the hell are they doing? Its a waste of ressources/time/effectivness....
T-95 Bear can carry up to 12 missiles of this type!
They are sending a T-95 from far away only to blow up 1-2 targets, what a waste!
I dont believe they cant determine 5-10 targets and blow them up in one route.

In your adolescent pontifications did you ever take in to consideration the fact that all the heavy bomber crews are getting some stick and shooting time in? They, like the various lighter aircraft crews, are being rotated in and out of the AO as are the ground and support units and Navy. This is called 'blooding the units'.

Nice to see you back, by the by.

GarryB wrote:

Each time they send an T-95 bear from russia, who fly through Iran/Iraq all the way down to syria air, is carrying only 1-2 K-101 cruise missiles.
What the hell are they doing? Its a waste of ressources/time/effectivness....
T-95 Bear can carry up to 12 missiles of this type!
They are sending a T-95 from far away only to blow up 1-2 targets, what a waste!
I dont believe they cant determine 5-10 targets and blow them up in one route.

Those missiles are not cheap and they need to be sure of the targets... the odds on 12 targets being worth hitting at one time is very low, so you might get hit all 12 targets but only 2-3 of them might be at an optimum time to get the most bad guys.

Delaying attacks until you have 12 confirmed targets is stupid and unlikely to be more cost effective.

Also these are subsonic missiles... reports of one attack might get the targets to move from postions in case they are hit too... if you are ready for an attack you are more likely to survive... artillery attacks are generally most effective in the first 30 seconds... after that most people who are able have taken cover and are much harder to injure or kill.

lycantrop wrote:

thanks for clarifying, one question, you wrote:

"the odds on 12 targets being worth hitting at one time is very low, so you might get hit all 12 targets but only 2-3 of them might be at an optimum time to get the most bad guys."

about the optimum time to hit this rats.

I suspect each time a T-95 bear is leaving russian border its already tracked by the us.
As we know US sharing informations with IS, so we can suppose US sharing data in advance to IS that T-95 is coming.
Im not expert, but possible that they also can track the cruise missile once its dropped, they track the flightpath of the missile.
data is constantly shared with IS on ground.
is it possible that russia cant bomb IS "in optimal time" because we can be 100% sure US alarming IS in advance?
Russia cant "surprise" the rats on ground?
maybe also they evacuate or hide in underground bases till T-95 is leaving syria?
this is hypothetical, im just thinking, but I am 100% sure US sees T-95 in advance and can share informations with rats on the ground.

lycantrop wrote:worth reading

Signals Intel treachery targeted Russian general killed in Deir-Ezzor

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/09/26/signals-intelligence-targeted-russian-general-killed-in-deir-ezzor/

par far wrote:

lycantrop wrote:worth reading

Signals Intel treachery targeted Russian general killed in Deir-Ezzor

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/09/26/signals-intelligence-targeted-russian-general-killed-in-deir-ezzor/

What I want to know is, does Russia have the capabilities to track high ranking officers, like it happened in this case?

lycantrop wrote:im curiouse if this baby is secretly used by russians in Syria, perfect place to test its capabilities:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh9zWweFu7E


The Listva, a remotely operated mine clearance vehicle capable of detecting and blowing up mines up to 100 meters away, is one such weapon.

An armored vehicle equipped with a UHF emitter moves in front of a mobile missile system. It detects radio-controlled landmines planted along and away from the road using ground-penetrating radar and then uses ultra-high-frequency rays to neutralize them.

This is a novel technique, which had never been used before.