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    Post  Kimppis Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:21 pm

    Bank of Russia’s Worries Stifling Growth

    The Bank of Russia continues to sabotage Russia's economic recovery by over-estimating the effects of a hostile U.S. Congress.

    Russia continues trying to extricate itself from U.S. hybrid war tactics, but the truth is they are still not free to set policy independently from the U.S.  The Bank of Russia is acutely aware of this and refuses to lower interest rates to unlock the Russian economy’s potential.

    The Bank of Russia announced that its current benchmark lending rate, 8.25%, is sufficient to offset the risks of the U.S. expanding its sanctions regime against Russia.  Charting a path of extremely conservative monetary policy while relations between the two countries is at an all-time low is not the wrong approach.

    That said, however, the MIACR – Moscow InterBank Actual Credit Rate – yield curve is still not fully normalized with 31 to 180-day rates being lower than 8 to 30 day rates.  A normally functioning yield curve should rise with time and a hump in the middle of it suggests that the central bank policy rate is too high if the cost of borrowing for 180 days is lower than that of 10 days.

    And I know that BoR President Elvira Nabullina knows this.  I know she’s not stupid. This is why the BoR lowered rates from 8.5% to 8.25% in October.  The shape of the yield curve has improved with each rate cut, but the work isn't done.

    So I question stopping the rate cuts now when there is obviously much more work to do to spur the kind of growth the Russian economy is capable of.

    Growth is a Defence Mechanism

    The best defense against further attack by the U.S. is encouraging domestic lending that is ruble-denominated to encourage organic economic growth.  By keeping the policy rate so high versus lending costs in dollars or euros it is encouraging the same strong ruble/Western-bank-dependent dynamic that existed in 2014 before oil prices dropped.

    While both consumer and business lending are growing finally, the BoR is still encouraging Russian companies to seek out loans denominated in anything other than Rubles at a time when the avowed policy of the Russian government is to de-dollarize as much as possible.

    In other words, the high interest rate policy is encouraging the very behavior the BoR says it is trying to fight, by inviting foreign capital into Russia only to see it fly out in the event of a new attack by the U.S. on its banking system.

    Foreign ownership of Russian bonds is now 30% versus just 5% at the start of the year, thanks to high interest rate arbitrage.  

    High interest rate policy in 2015 made sense to arrest the slide in the Ruble, tame inflation and spur local savings and investment in Rubles.  But, now that the economy is looking to expand, it’s time for the BoR to loosen the shackles faster than they have.

    There is some good news, however, real wages are growing much faster than the rate of inflation (4.3% vs. 2.7%). That gap needs to remain to assist Russian households rebuild wealth lost during the past recession.  So, the Russian economy is generating new real wealth and a sustainable pool of real savings right now.

    The fear here is that Nabullina fails to walk the right line between growth and fear of another ruble crisis.  And the Russian interbank market yield curve has been screaming for two years to loosen up.  Nearly every time that she has lowered rates the first response of the ruble was to strengthen not depreciate.

    And that’s because latent demand for rubles was so high that lowering rates actually increased the demand to lend in rubles.  Conditions are far better today than they were this time last year, but the market is still asking for a sub-8% benchmark lending rate if Russian treasury bond prices are any indicator.

    One-year Russian debt is now trading at 7.2% while overnight rates are still closer to 8%.  I’ve been saying all year that I thought Nabullina needed to cut rates to around 7% by year-end to properly clear the market and it looks like I’m going to be right about that call.

    Growth Wins in Geopolitics

    Because the best defense against yet another tiresome hybrid war attack on the Russian financial system by a U.S. Deep State refusing to admit its losing the war is a robust Russian economy. GDP Growth rates up near 4% or 5% and real purchasing power growth between 1.5% and 2% should be the goal, not inflation rate targeting.  That’s a dead giveaway that the Bank of Russia still operates under the IMF’s influence.

    These growth rates will make it so much more difficult for European Union leadership to keep the ruinous sanctions in place.  With Trump’s tax cut plan chopping U.S. corporate rates to that of Russia’s, 20%, the arbitrage that was there for Russia is now gone.  As capital flees Europe and heads to the U.S. some of that capital flight should go to Russia.  And with the Fed keeping rates below 2% for the foreseeable future, Nabullina and company better start looking at 6-7% for the benchmark rate and not 8.25% or that’s not going to continue.  

    You don't just want foreigners buying Russia's sovereign debt you want them investing in Russia's real economy.

    And if Putin’s ultimate goal, geopolitically, is to cleave at least part the EU from the U.S.’s control, like the Visigrads, Italy and Greece, then there is no better way to exert maximal political pressure than the promise of radically increased trade.  For the Visigrads, this is an easy choice since none of them ever adopted the euro.

    The incentives are already there.  But for countries like Italy, suffering from Angela Merkel’s disastrous refugee policy, a euro easily 25% over-valued and Russian economic sanctions, the choice becomes more dramatic.  These are the reasons why non-performing loans in Italy are skyrocketing.

    With the Germans unable to build a stable coalition, other Northern European states are filling the power vacuum, like Denmark trying to stop the Nordstream II pipeline by barring it from crossing their waters.

    Bavarian Governor Horst Seehofer stepped down as the leader of the CSU in Germany. Putin loses a key ally to get the sanctions lifted as Seehofer has been at the forefront of keeping relations between Russia and Germany amicable during all of this post-Maidan nonsense.

    It is incumbent on Nabullina and her staff, many of whom are of questionable loyalty to Russia as I understand it, to continue rate normalization and allow the tenuous Russian expansion to take off in 2018.
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    Post  Austin Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:37 pm

    Siluanov: Russia's budget deficit in 2017 will not exceed 2% of GDP

    Подробнее на ТАСС:
    http://tass.ru/ekonomika/4792143
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    Post  Kimppis Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:42 pm

    On the same topic:

    http://tass.com/economy/979568

    So Russia's budget deficit is non-existent. Not a long time ago the Western media was telling us that Russia had a budget crisis and it was running out of "money"? So how is this possible? The price of oil is at below $60 for the whole year on average, and even then non-oil & gas deficit is already at below 7%. B-b-but the objective and free media told me... scratch

    Russian budget is based on an oil price of $40. It's absolutely killing the oil & gas dependecy, which was obviously always exaggerated. I remember back in 2014-15 Finnish experts told on the national TV that Russian government 1. is unable to "reform" the economy to decrease the oil dependency and 2. that the budget deficit is out of control, there's no money, the whole country might even collapse. No kidding... Oh, and then there was the high inflation. What happened to that?
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    Post  Cyberspec Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:53 am

    Pretty good news...

    Russia’s service sector revving up as business activity accelerates

    November has seen the highest pickup in Russia's service sector since January 2017 thanks to a surge in new orders and accelerating business activity, according to Markit Economics data.

    The Purchasing Managers' Index (PMI) for the sector grew to 57.4 in November against October's 53.9. Meanwhile, experts had expected the index to decline to 55.0. “The latest index reading indicated steep growth in business activity across the sector that was the second-quickest since May 2011,” the report says.

    PMI, an indicator of the economic health of a sector, is based on data compiled after monthly surveys are sent to purchasing executives at nearly 300 companies. The index draws on five major indicators: new orders, inventory levels, production, supplier deliveries and the employment environment. A reading above 50 means expansion in the sector on a monthly basis, anything below indicates contraction....

    At the same time, Russia’s Markit PMI - a composite index covering both manufacturing and services – in November grew to 56.3 against 53.2 in October, signaling the fastest composite growth since March.

       Annual inflation in #Russia hits new record low, economy expected to grow to 1.5% this year https://t.co/1xmobaoytx
       — RT (@RT_com) November 13, 2017

    “November PMI data signaled steep growth in business activity across the Russian service sector, with the expansion accelerating to reach a ten-month high. The upturn in new business also quickened to a sharp rate that was the fastest for the best part of a decade,” said Sian Jones, economist at IHS Markit, commenting on the Russia Services PMI survey data.

    “Overall, the IHS Markit Russia Composite Output Index indicated a stronger increase across both manufacturing and service sector firms, with growth in the latest survey period at an eight-month peak,” the analyst added.

    https://www.rt.com/business/412002-russia-pmi-service-industry-rise/
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    Post  miketheterrible Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:06 am

    Kimppis wrote:On the same topic:

    http://tass.com/economy/979568

    So Russia's budget deficit is non-existent. Not a long time ago the Western media was telling us that Russia had a budget crisis and it was running out of "money"? So how is this possible? The price of oil is at below $60 for the whole year on average, and even then non-oil & gas deficit is already at below 7%. B-b-but the objective and free media told me... scratch

    Russian budget is based on an oil price of $40. It's absolutely killing the oil & gas dependecy, which was obviously always exaggerated. I remember back in 2014-15 Finnish experts told on the national TV that Russian government 1. is unable to "reform" the economy to decrease the oil dependency and 2. that the budget deficit is out of control, there's no money, the whole country might even collapse. No kidding... Oh, and then there was the high inflation. What happened to that?

    Trust predictions and opinions of others towards Russia with a grain of salt. They don't know the country and rely on media and their own "intelligence" agencies. In the end, the reality paints a different picture and these people's earlier statements are usually forgotten. Talk is free. Anyone can say anything (well, so long as it is not racist in Uber liberal Finland or west) and not face prosecution for their lies or libel.
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    Post  Austin Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:17 am

    Trump Adminstration Imposed New Sanction on Russia for Violating INF Treaty

    https://lenta.ru/news/2017/12/09/sanctions/
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    Post  Austin Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:21 am

    The first batch of liquefied gas was shipped from the Yamal LNG plant

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/101446/

    The first batch of liquefied gas from the Yamal LNG plant was shipped to the tanker Christophe de Margerie. The capacity of the tanker is slightly less than 173,000 cubic meters. m LNG. Loading will take from 18 to 20 hours. Thus, the first stage of the liquefied gas plant was put into operation. The launch of the second and third lines is planned for the end of 2018 and 2019 respectively.

    The cost of Yamal LNG is about $ 27 billion. Of these, approximately 20-25% is the cost of the Yuzhno-Tambeyskoye field, and about 60% is the construction of the plant. In addition, at the South Korean DSME shipyard for the Yamal LNG, 15 tankers of gas class Arc7 class, capable of walking along the Northern Sea Route, were ordered. The total cost of the order in 2014 was estimated at about $ 5.5 billion. The tanker Christophe de Margerie became the pilot ship of the project

    Even before the plant was put into operation, the volume of production was contracted by 96%. The project provides for the annual production of about 16.5 million tons of liquefied natural gas (LNG) and up to 1.2 million tons of gas condensate with delivery to the markets of the APR countries and Europe.
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    Post  miketheterrible Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:30 pm

    The future. All the future sales to Europe and Asia excluding China and Turkey, will be LNG sales. This will bypass all the stupid political shit US and EU pulls.
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    Post  kvs Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:02 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:The future. All the future sales to Europe and Asia excluding China and Turkey, will be LNG sales.  This will bypass all the stupid political shit US and EU pulls.

    This would be quite preferable. Let those EU-tards pay 100% more per unit of gas. They deserve a good assrape given their incessant
    demonizing of Russia for giving them a good deal. These f*ckers think Russia is some pushover.

    Transition to the LNG market would also maintain Russia's reserves for longer. This would be due to more global suppliers to the EU and
    no more subsidizing of hater idiots by Russia.

    I believe that the 2019 cut off in transit of gas through Banderastan is the perfect opportunity to transition to the LNG regime. By sabotaging
    Nord Stream II, NATO hopes Russia will keep subsidizing the Kiev regime maggots. This should in no way be allowed to continue. If Nord Stream II
    is not ready then Russia must declare force majeure and tell EU-tards to buy LNG to replace the gas previously shipped through Banderastan.
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    Post  kvs Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:03 pm

    Cyberspec wrote:Pretty good news...

    Russia’s service sector revving up as business activity accelerates

    November has seen the highest pickup in Russia's service sector since January 2017 thanks to a surge in new orders and accelerating business activity, according to Markit Economics data.

    The Purchasing Managers' Index (PMI) for the sector grew to 57.4 in November against October's 53.9. Meanwhile, experts had expected the index to decline to 55.0. “The latest index reading indicated steep growth in business activity across the sector that was the second-quickest since May 2011,” the report says.

    PMI, an indicator of the economic health of a sector, is based on data compiled after monthly surveys are sent to purchasing executives at nearly 300 companies. The index draws on five major indicators: new orders, inventory levels, production, supplier deliveries and the employment environment. A reading above 50 means expansion in the sector on a monthly basis, anything below indicates contraction....

    At the same time, Russia’s Markit PMI - a composite index covering both manufacturing and services – in November grew to 56.3 against 53.2 in October, signaling the fastest composite growth since March.

       Annual inflation in #Russia hits new record low, economy expected to grow to 1.5% this year https://t.co/1xmobaoytx
       — RT (@RT_com) November 13, 2017

    “November PMI data signaled steep growth in business activity across the Russian service sector, with the expansion accelerating to reach a ten-month high. The upturn in new business also quickened to a sharp rate that was the fastest for the best part of a decade,” said Sian Jones, economist at IHS Markit, commenting on the Russia Services PMI survey data.

    “Overall, the IHS Markit Russia Composite Output Index indicated a stronger increase across both manufacturing and service sector firms, with growth in the latest survey period at an eight-month peak,” the analyst added.

    https://www.rt.com/business/412002-russia-pmi-service-industry-rise/

    This is why NATO is a starting a new frenzy of sanctions against Russia.
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    Post  kvs Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:09 pm

    Re: CBR and Nabiullina

    People should not be treating the 5th column policies of the current regime at the CBR as some sideshow. The CBR is making it easier
    for NATO's financial terrorism against Russia to succeed.

    1) Instead of allowing Russian banks to grow and handle domestic demand, the CBR policy has been forcing Russian business to find
    foreign financing. This is a trivial fact; pay over 10% in interest or find loans for 4% or less offshore.

    2) Even with the advent of NATO's financial sanctions from 2014, the CBR is maintaining the same policy. So Russian business
    is still relying on various offshore banking transactions and irregular financing (not drugs, but strange quid pro quo business
    arrangements).

    3) The above two points enable NATO to easily sabotage Russian financing by putting pressure on offshore companies and banks.
    This includes Chinese banks. If Russian businesses dealt with healthy Russian banks, they could ignore NATO's huffing and puffing.
    The CBR is not just stalling Russian economic growth. It is suppressing Russian bank development (recall that bank assets are loans,
    so no loans means no assets).

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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:49 pm

    I don't think entire Russian leadership would miss something like that


    Also:
    Austin wrote:15 tankers of gas class Arc7 class, capable of walking along the Northern Sea Route, were ordered. The total cost of the order in 2014 was estimated at about $ 5.5 billion. The tanker Christophe de Margerie became the pilot ship of the project

    Does anyone have delivery timeline for other 14 tankers? Once they are all online it will be market flood...thumbsup
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    Post  miketheterrible Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:04 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:I don't think entire Russian leadership would miss something like that


    Also:
    Austin wrote:15 tankers of gas class Arc7 class, capable of walking along the Northern Sea Route, were ordered. The total cost of the order in 2014 was estimated at about $ 5.5 billion. The tanker Christophe de Margerie became the pilot ship of the project

    Does anyone have delivery timeline for other 14 tankers? Once they are all online it will be market flood...thumbsup

    There will most likely be a huge price drop for Russian LNG which will make their LNG more in demand.
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    Post  kvs Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:47 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:I don't think entire Russian leadership would miss something like that

    No, it tells us the real state of power in Russia. Putin the "tyrant" is cornered by various oligarch factions.
    Oligarchs are the least patriotic citizens in any country. They are the first ones prepared to sell their
    countrymen down the river. Nabiullina is in power at the CBR not because of Putin's choice, but in spite
    of it (given the totally opposing policy of the CBR before she took over). Indirect support for this comes
    from the cocky efforts by NATO to stage regime change in Russia.

    Even the fact that grifter Navalny is allowed to prance around staging a presidential campaign is a grotesque
    concession. Some choose to see it as a cunning plan to dilute the chances of the non-systemic opposition.
    The real problem is why a non-systemic opposition is allowed to exist at all and who is financing it. I bet
    Navalny's backers are not just Americans, but internal Russian factions.
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    Post  kvs Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:51 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:I don't think entire Russian leadership would miss something like that


    Also:
    Austin wrote:15 tankers of gas class Arc7 class, capable of walking along the Northern Sea Route, were ordered. The total cost of the order in 2014 was estimated at about $ 5.5 billion. The tanker Christophe de Margerie became the pilot ship of the project

    Does anyone have delivery timeline for other 14 tankers? Once they are all online it will be market flood...thumbsup

    There will most likely be a huge price drop for Russian LNG which will make their LNG more in demand.

    Russia does not need to screw its resource base to make $20-25 billion US per year from natural gas. Let the US and others
    draw down their reserves and rue the choice. So far Russia's gas policy for the EU has been an appeasement effort. Time
    for this charity to stop. The EU is demented with anti-Russian hate. Let them eat "American" LNG. America does not have
    enough gas to export (it actually imports gas) and it does not have enough LNG tankers and ports to handle the volumes needed.
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    Post  Cyberspec Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:22 am

    kvs wrote:Russia does not need to screw its resource base to make $20-25 billion US per year from natural gas.    Let the US and others
    draw down their reserves and rue the choice.    So far Russia's gas policy for the EU has been an appeasement effort.   Time
    for this charity to stop.   The EU is demented with anti-Russian hate.   Let them eat "American" LNG.   America does not have
    enough gas to export (it actually imports gas) and it does not have enough LNG tankers and ports to handle the volumes needed.

    Something we can agree on...

    There would be some pain initially but watching them squirm and panic would be worth it.

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:39 am

    kvs wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:I don't think entire Russian leadership would miss something like that

    No, it tells us the real state of power in Russia.  Putin the "tyrant" is cornered by various oligarch factions.
    Oligarchs are the least patriotic citizens in any country.   They are the first ones prepared to sell their
    countrymen down the river.   Nabiullina is in power at the CBR not because of Putin's choice, but in spite
    of it (given the totally opposing policy of the CBR before she took over).   Indirect support for this comes
    from the cocky efforts by NATO to stage regime change in Russia.

    Even the fact that grifter Navalny is allowed to prance around staging a presidential campaign is a grotesque
    concession.   Some choose to see it as a cunning plan to dilute the chances of the non-systemic opposition.
    The real problem is why a non-systemic opposition is allowed to exist at all and who is financing it.   I bet
    Navalny's backers are not just Americans, but internal Russian factions.


    Maybe yes maybe no. We all are speculating not knowing details.

    You say all that Nabiulina is doing wrong. Tell me now what would you do on her place? lower % rates? and then whaBank system elaking, no centralized govt auctions?

    Then speculative attack for rubles, panic among population. Poor are loosing savings. Rich buying $. Oligarchs moving billions of USA to offshore. High inflation never good for economic growth. Then revolts (always food goes up harder then earnings). I guess that that was actually planned by westerns govts. Show me Zimbabwe or Venzuela as examples of success.


    If CBR could lover % rates? I believe yes but not really too much to kill stabilization. Chine was growing GDP by 10% while % base waqs 6,5%. Russia is now 8,25. In one two years should drop to 6-7% maybe lower.



    You know on from MIT Sloan School of Management lecturer I once heard: business is not about risk but managing risk. YOu need alwasy to check alternative costs. This is no game but multi crierial optimization. Better slower growth then food riots.


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    Post  Austin Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:21 am

    1 ) CBR should stop full capital Account of Currency Rouble for Russian Ciziten that would stop the speculative attack on rouble and Citizen would not be purchasing USD or Eur instead of Rouble.

    Capital Account of Currency is not there even in India and China for the same reason to stop attack on its own currency and siphoning of money from Country to Abroad.

    2 ) Sell of all but the minimum US T Bills that Russia for need for international Transaction , There is a high risk that US T bills might get confiscated or they would refuse to pay , CBR is putting Russian Economy into a blackmail mode by purchasing more T bills.

    By Buying more US T Bills CBR is not just letting US Blackmail Russian Economy but also Subsidising US Debt and helping its economy.

    Alternative to T-Bills are Gold , IMF SDR or even Euro T Bills , Buy more of BRICS Bond they pay 7-8 % returns and Chinese T bills if they exisit.

    3 ) Reduce Interest rate to 4-5 % and keep it stedy , THe current interest rate is killing business.

    4 ) Sell Energy products in Chinese Renminbi too besides USD , China is a large energy market for Russia the largest after Europe and likely will outgrow europe.

    5 ) Stop buying more of US products like Boeing Aircraft instead buy more of Russian ones and promote abroad.

    US has left no stone unturned to damage and destroy Russian Economy since 2014 , Russia has simply responded with Agriculture/Poultry ban
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    Post  kvs Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:26 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:I don't think entire Russian leadership would miss something like that

    No, it tells us the real state of power in Russia.  Putin the "tyrant" is cornered by various oligarch factions.
    Oligarchs are the least patriotic citizens in any country.   They are the first ones prepared to sell their
    countrymen down the river.   Nabiullina is in power at the CBR not because of Putin's choice, but in spite
    of it (given the totally opposing policy of the CBR before she took over).   Indirect support for this comes
    from the cocky efforts by NATO to stage regime change in Russia.

    Even the fact that grifter Navalny is allowed to prance around staging a presidential campaign is a grotesque
    concession.   Some choose to see it as a cunning plan to dilute the chances of the non-systemic opposition.
    The real problem is why a non-systemic opposition is allowed to exist at all and who is financing it.   I bet
    Navalny's backers are not just Americans, but internal Russian factions.


    Maybe yes maybe no. We all are speculating not knowing details.  

    You say all that Nabiulina is doing wrong. Tell me now what would you do on her place? lower % rates?  and then whaBank system elaking, no centralized govt auctions?

    Then speculative attack for rubles, panic among population. Poor are loosing savings. Rich buying $. Oligarchs moving billions of USA to offshore. High inflation never good for economic growth. Then revolts (always food goes up harder then earnings). I guess that that was actually planned by westerns govts.  Show me Zimbabwe or Venzuela as examples of success.


    If CBR could lover % rates? I  believe yes but not really too much to kill stabilization. Chine was growing GDP by 10% while % base waqs 6,5%. Russia is now 8,25. In one two years should drop to 6-7% maybe lower.



    You know on from MIT Sloan School of Management lecturer I  once heard: business is not about risk but managing risk.  YOu need alwasy to check alternative costs. This is no game but multi crierial optimization. Better slower growth then food riots.



    You never read the content of my posts and follow up with sneering BS such as the above.    I have told you a billion times what I would do.

    1) The only time that high prime lending rate was justified was in late 2014 and early 2015 during the ruble forex devaluation induced inflation spike.
    This spike lasted until the end of March 2015 and the CPI returned April 2014 levels in April of 2015.    But Nabiullina, your hero, pretended that
    inflation was through the roof and kept raping Russia for the rest of 2015.

    2) The normal rate practice is to set the prime rate at CPI-2%.    Russia's inflation has been about 7% over the last 2 years.   So Nabiullina, if
    she was doing her job and not being a 5th column saboteur, should have set the prime rate to 5%.    Not 11% with only a drop to 8.25% in
    last few months.   So Russia lost two years of growth, especially in the banking sector, because this 5th columnist has been keeping rates
    over 200% of what they should be. Since Nabiullina is actually increasing inflation by increasing business borrowing costs which are passed
    onto consumers, she should have set the prime rate to under 4%.

    3) Nabiullina has not proven her claims that Russia's inflation is unstable.   In fact, if that was the case, then the inflation spike in late 2014
    and early 2015 would have produced an oscillatory pattern lasting into 2017.   This would have happened whether Nabiullina set the rate
    to 17% or 27%.   Go ahead, do some f*cking research instead of posting drivel and see what inflationary instability looks like around the
    world.   Latin America over most the 1900s is a good starting point.
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    Post  kvs Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:30 pm

    Austin wrote:1 ) CBR should stop full capital Account of Currency Rouble for Russian Ciziten that would stop the speculative attack on rouble and Citizen would not be purchasing USD or Eur instead of Rouble.

    Capital Account of Currency is not there even in India and China for the same reason to stop attack on its own currency and siphoning of money from Country to Abroad.

    2 ) Sell of all but the minimum US T Bills that Russia for need for international Transaction , There is a high risk that US T bills might get confiscated or they would refuse to pay , CBR is putting Russian Economy into a blackmail mode by purchasing more T bills.

    By Buying more US T Bills CBR is not just letting US Blackmail Russian Economy but also Subsidising US Debt and helping its economy.

    Alternative to T-Bills are  Gold , IMF SDR or even Euro T Bills , Buy more of BRICS Bond they pay 7-8 % returns and Chinese T bills if they exisit.

    3 ) Reduce Interest rate to 4-5 % and keep it stedy , THe current interest rate is killing business.

    4 ) Sell Energy products in Chinese Renminbi too besides USD , China is a large energy market for Russia the largest after Europe and likely will outgrow europe.

    5 ) Stop buying more of US products like Boeing Aircraft instead buy more of Russian ones and promote abroad.

    US has left no stone unturned to damage and destroy Russian Economy since 2014 , Russia has simply responded with Agriculture/Poultry ban

    Good list demonstrating the malicious behaviour of the CBR and the stupidity of the Russian government.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun Dec 10, 2017 9:45 pm

    Austin wrote:1 ) CBR should stop full capital Account of Currency Rouble for Russian Ciziten that would stop the speculative attack on rouble and Citizen would not be purchasing USD or Eur instead of Rouble.

    Capital Account of Currency is not there even in India and China for the same reason to stop attack on its own currency and siphoning of money from Country to Abroad.

    Ys they banned outflow in Zimbabwe and Venezuela. Money is valid as long as people trust it has a value. Otherwise it is worthless. Full stopping of international exchange for citizens is best signal to for attack. And attackers are not citizens. It is Russian banks and hedge funds form US mainly.



    2 ) Sell of all but the minimum US T Bills that Russia for need for international Transaction , There is a high risk that US T bills might get confiscated or they would refuse to pay , CBR is putting Russian Economy into a blackmail mode by purchasing more T bills.

    Not really. Russia's external debt in $ is more than reserves, T-bonds inclusive. If US refuses Russia might refuse to pay back to West. thsi si kind of MAD in economy.
    https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/external-debt

    I guess this would be the last step before "kinetic war"



    By Buying more US T Bills CBR is not just letting US Blackmail Russian Economy but also Subsidising US Debt and helping its economy.

    Alternative to T-Bills are  Gold , IMF SDR or even Euro T Bills , Buy more of BRICS Bond they pay 7-8 % returns and Chinese T bills if they exisit.

    BRICS' bonds are just launched and not really tested. Managing the whole economy ofc Russia I would not do it. Some investments but no tall.
    Euro? like EU countries would not arrest Russian assets? Are you sure? IMF is managed mostly bu US then its allies. What is the difference?

    Chinese T-bonds? Partially it is Russian bonds denoLike 1 week ago Russia issued trial 1 USD bln equivalent in yuan.
    Buying Chinese bonds there are pros and cons but I believe Russia should step up its involvement in this direction.


    3 ) Reduce Interest rate to 4-5 % and keep it stedy , THe current interest rate is killing business.

    Really, inflow of empty money would help whom? does Russia produce anything for consumer market? not really then what? people start buying imported goods and US soars then more people are selling rubles and... crisis like Zimbabwe.

    There is much more then only interest rate. Shitty and leaking banking system. Underdeveloped financial instruments and legal solutions. Yes decrease slowly but surely. Business is very conservative in risk management. Unstable legal system and shitty regulations are impacting industry no less if not more.



    4 ) Sell Energy products in Chinese Renminbi too besides USD , China is a large energy market for Russia the largest after Europe and likely will outgrow europe.

    I guess all trade will go in yuan sooner of later. Even if China will be bigger market than EU for Russian gas then you want from total dependency on west to jump into total dependency from China? fairly risky I can say.



    5 ) Stop buying more of US products like Boeing Aircraft instead buy more of Russian ones and promote abroad.

    US has left no stone unturned to damage and destroy Russian Economy since 2014 , Russia has simply responded with Agriculture/Poultry ban

    Us tries to destroy Russia before it was formed by British colonists//invaders. But this should be not reason to cut your nose to spit in US face.

    Programmes to develop Russian aerospace industry are happening now. As for comnsept you are correct. But before Ill-114, MK-21 and CRAIC CR929 wil lbe in quantities what do you suggest stop and bankrupt all Russian air lines? not better then they grow and earn paying Russian budget taxes even fi flying Boeings?

    BTW even if CRAIC CR929 will go in series in 2025 you still need to wait 10-15 years to replenish only Aeraflot.





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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun Dec 10, 2017 9:48 pm

    kvs wrote:
    Good list demonstrating the malicious behaviour of the CBR and the stupidity of the Russian government.    


    Eh well this reminds me Ukrainian approach to Russian market. No trade EU will buy and what total collapse of industry and peoples walth goes into abyss. I would be prudent to risk too much.

    If they are so stupid why economy is still growing? people not rioting? new products are appearing? and 200 bln USd of debt was paid back last years?
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    Post  Project Canada Sun Dec 10, 2017 9:51 pm

    Is there a Russian government website where we can email these recommendations? Or maybe a Russian political party/ person who would at least listen? Or even the Russian President's website? 

    If Russian 5th columnists are able to commit these tresonous crimes right in front of peoples faces, and the Russian leadership  is Not doing anything to stop them, then is it likely that Russia is headed for another 90s disaster? Russia wouldn't  survive  another breakup.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun Dec 10, 2017 9:56 pm

    Project Canada wrote:Is there a Russian government website where we can email these recommendations? Or maybe a Russian political party/ person who would at least listen? Or even the Russian President's website? 

    If Russian 5th columnists are able to commit these tresonous crimes right in front of peoples faces, and the Russian leadership  is Not doing anything to stop them, then is it likely that Russia is headed for another 90s disaster? Russia wouldn't  survive  another breakup.

    C'mon Kvs/ Austin and me are just speculating. Why do you complain if both spoke their minds? isn't it better to discuss the ironize?
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    Post  Cyberspec Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:00 pm

    As I've written previously, I don't buy into this "CBR is the 5th column" in Russia mainly because the way the "bigger picture" is developing. If the CBR wanted to destroy Russia on foreign orders they had a perfect oportunity in 2014/15.They didn't, on the contrary..they are trying to kill off inflation expectations and straighten the bond yield curves....

    I think some of you guys are taking MSM and Russian far right conspiracies a bit too seriously

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