Big_Gazza wrote:
BTW Vann, if Russia did have a 100T class launcher currently available, what would they use it for? The Russian Soyuz-V based SHLV may not fly for another 9-10 years, but the lunar Federation crewed vehicle won't be ready until then, so the timescale isn't an issue in my book. Russia has a lot more important priorities... you know the sort of strategic achievements that drive the US Ruling Class cunts wild with impotent rage as their full-spectrum dominance fades away day by day.
for what RUssia need a heavy space rocket??? , russia could do a thousands of things..
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1) deploy a Russian only heavy space station in space that could be used for civilians or military purposes
at will ,in case relations with the west totally breaks.. ie.. that US start deploying nukes in space aiming at Russia.
Russia needs to be prepared for space . US military already have said ,they seeking a full spectrum domination
of space to deny enemies the use of space.
2)A Giant Lazer/energy weapon could be deployed in that space station to shutdown nukes.
3) It could be used to sabotage American/NATO satelites.. in case Russia goes to war
US will have no way to know what is inside the space station and the payloads russia takes there.
-also a heavy rocket could be used to lift heavy space defenses ,for the space station..
like S-500s /S-600s in space.. to protect Russia satellites and space station. But also to intercept nukes
from space ,in mid orbit ,way before they start descending.
4)It could be used for a manned mission to moon and mars or beyond.. or to build a base in mars..
5)For civilian Tourism.. Russia can create a new industry ,space tourism for Rich people.
6)It can be used as a base in space to build a giant space shuttle for space travel.. So Cosmonauts
travel in a light cheap rocket to the Russian super space station and from there board a space shuttle
to the moon or mars.
7)For significantly boost Russia space industry this create jobs in very high tech business ,and this attract investors
and help Russia raise its image in the world as a leader in space.
8)For business ,business and more business.. advertising for example... western companies will pay
billions for Russia in adversing..
9)space tourism..at major scale..
There will be problems at first to implement any of those things ,but if Russia jumps early in the race to the moon.
they will solve the issues earlier than the west.
The thing is , that you need first to build the space rockets ,and after you have then.. the needs for it will show up.
It could be used for mining in the moon Helium-3.. the most expensive material known by man.. is more expensive than diamonds or gold. Since Helium can be used to produce free energy. So if Russia had the heavy rockets
know.. it will not need to wait for year 2025 or 2030 or year 3,000 for leaving the earth orbit and traveling with
humans in space. Russia do have a lot of money .. they in sports alone ,they have spend 51+11 billions already
in Sports and olympics.. between Sochi and FIFA. and now Russia signed for a super fast train to china for $200 billions. So Russia can get a lot of money ,when it really wants to do something.. but Putin is not taking seriously
the Space race. he don't see how much damage he does to Russia world image ,by allowing Americans to steal the show there... Putin complains of Russia not being taken seriously in the world its interest.. and this is consequence of him not doing anything to take Russia into a leading position in space and in other meaningful business.
Putin is doing wrong in relying in sports for boosting patriotism in Russia. he will do far better with a leadership in space. A moon manned landing today in space with a heavy rocket ,will be like 100x sochis olympics victories.
because will be written in history books.. and in some cases claimed to be the first REAL moon landing ,since is questioned even among American citizens ,if the moon landing ever happened or not... So Putin needs to boost morale of its citizens ,by turning Russia into the leader in space.. This not only will significantly help the economy .because will boost investments from the west.. in projects offers.. for the heavy rocket.. but also will help the Russian space industry ,take it to a whole new level . with travels to Jupiter and saturn.. it will make every Russian citizen more proud than ever of their country. it will boost Russia economy and help Russia influence the west.. for more cooperation with Russia instead of their hostilities. it will also silence Russian opposition too.. because the celebrations will silence their protest. A very strong Space Program will have endless benefits ,endless possibilities..
One of the very few things soviets did right.. was their space program.. Gagarin first flight to space ,made Russia
so popular in the world ,so celebrated, that even the queen of england wanted to meet Russian cosmonauts.
Soviets flew to Venus , to Moon and mars ,with probes. they build rovers robots in the moon. and all this things
motivated Russians to study engineering and science.. So investing in space , will bring many benefits short term,
medium and long term.. Russia today for example benefits enourmously of Soviet Space program.. since Soyus
is nearly perfect ,space rocket ,that they have mastered. Building a heavy space rocket now..and not in year 2030,
will help Russia to master ,heavy space rockets early on the race... and take the lead in important space exploration.
like it will be moon ,mars or its satellites. In short a heavy rocket and dominating in space ,could significantly boost
Russia image in the world and Russia influence ,promote patriotism more than a thousands of olympics ,and also
promote good relations with the west.. because Leadership in space is one of the very few things Americans respect
from Russia and force them to cooperate. So Russia needs absolute leadership and totally outmatch NASA and SpaceX
in space.. this latter is also part of American government funding.. so is part of US space program too.