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    Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

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    Post  dino00 Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:33 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    dino00 wrote:....
    Nothing fancy Go there again with astronauts of other nationalities, Russian Cosmonauts, live stream...etc

    I dont trust the same people who lied on every single big event on the last Century for free. Doing that would require an astonomic level of sheer stupidity.

    And how are we to know that Russia will not fake that livestream? Unless you are there personally?

    Not many people would trust a country that lied about quite a few big events over last century (yes, Russia)

    Also, when you said "go there again" that implies that someone has been there already lol1

    Russia faking the live stream??? Put the Americans astronauts, and the Russians Cosmonauts on the same big rocket and Nasa live stream That.

    I think the way i used ``go there again`` is crystal clear, no need to add nothing.

    [/quote] Not many people would trust a country that lied about quite a few big events over last century (yes, Russia)[/quote]

    Hmmm...i understand now.
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    Post  Vann7 Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:51 am

    dino00 wrote:
    Hmmm...i understand now.


    Lol he have no hope , don't feed trolls..
    in his eyes is Russia the one that lies.. but not NASA.. Smile
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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:26 pm

    Russia faking the live stream??? Put the Americans astronauts, and the Russians Cosmonauts on the same big rocket and Nasa live stream That.

    Russians are more than convinced that moon landings are real.

    And how do you plan to convince 2 billion Chinese and 1 billion Indians that this USA/Russian livestream is real? Put more foreigners onboard?

    And what about other nations? Looks to me that they will need pretty big ship.

    And how would we know that Americans and Russians won't bribe them into lying?

    Hmmm...i understand now.

    Oh you do? Well then explain what you understand, don't keep it all to yourself...
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Wed Nov 21, 2018 4:24 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Not many people would trust a country that lied about quite a few big events over last century (yes, Russia)

    like? BTW US never lied ? Let's start from Serbia case?

    @PD this discussion is off topic for Russian program. We never can be sure Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil but most probably US crew landed on the Moon. Nevertheless version that they weren't is perfect tool to troll US fanboiz
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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:10 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:.........this discussion is off topic for Russian program. We never can be sure .... but most probably  US crew landed  on the Moon. Nevertheless version that they weren't is perfect tool to troll US fanboiz

    If it's off topic then maybe Flat Earth Club here should stop bringing it up?

    And one more thing: if Moon landings were supposedly faked and we can't trust NASA and moonwalk footage then by same logic how can we know that Gagarin even went to space?

    For all we know they could have just launched empty rocket, drop old Yuri from airplane in full space regalia and then just BS rest of the planet for next half a century and counting.  Cool

    We have even less ''evidences'' of Gagarin's trip than we have of Moon landing and yet nobody is disputing it, least of all NASA and USA.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:26 am




    PapaDragon wrote: yet nobody is disputing it, least of all NASA and USA.

    And who in Roscosmos is disputing "fake landing"? Never heard abut this. This is used only to troll US fanboiz. To sow seeds of doubt in their fat brains n mid west. Same as US is claiming many things about USSR.




    Roscosmos will teach employees to deal with spies

    https://ria.ru/science/20181121/1533255656.html
    MOSCOW, November 21 - RIA News. Roscosmos intends to teach employees of the state corporation and its affiliated enterprises to counteract foreign intelligence services, field courses on protecting state secrets will be held in the building of the Scientific Institute TsNIImash, whose employee was previously arrested in the case of espionage.
    In the Liberal Democratic Party proposed to change the questionnaire when applying for a job with access to the state secret
    The relevant tender of "Roskosmos" for the provision of services for the preparation and conduct of training and methodological collection with the specialists of the cryptographic service of the state corporation and its organizations is posted on the website of public procurement.
    Earlier, an employee of the head scientific institute "Roskosmos" TsNIIMash Viktor Kudryavtsev was arrested in a case of treason. The investigation imputes to the scientist the transfer of classified information to the Belgian Institute of Hydrodynamics. According to Kommersant, we are talking about information about Russian hypersonic developments. Kudryavtsev does not recognize his guilt. Against this background, the Roskosmos check was carried out at TsNIImash, and they refused to disclose the results of which in the state corporation.





    In Russia there will be a new state program on the exploration of the moon


    MOSCOW, November 21 - RIA News. A new space state program will appear in Russia dedicated to the exploration of the moon, Yuri Koptev, chairman of the scientific and technical council of Roscosmos, told RIA Novosti.

    Go to the photo bank
    Russian rocket "Angara" will be used in the lunar program
    “It was originally planned that it (the new program. - Approx. Ed.) Will be on a super-heavy rocket. But everyone understands that it’s wrong to confine to one rocket. It should be a separate space state program,” he said.

    РИА Новости https://ria.ru/science/20181121/1533208568.html



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    Post  Vann7 Sun Nov 25, 2018 3:25 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Russia faking the live stream??? Put the Americans astronauts, and the Russians Cosmonauts on the same big rocket and Nasa live stream That.

    Russians are more than convinced that moon landings are real.

    And how do you plan to convince 2 billion Chinese and 1 billion Indians that this USA/Russian livestream is real? Put more foreigners onboard?

    And what about other nations? Looks to me that they will need pretty big ship.

    And how would we know that Americans and Russians won't bribe them into lying?

    Hmmm...i understand now.

    Oh you do? Well then explain what you understand, don't keep it all to yourself...


    And guess what????

    Russia government did it again... lol1

    Russia will check if Americans really went to the Moon – Roscosmos chief

    https://www.rt.com/news/444790-russia-check-americans-moon-landing/

    and where is Putin denying any claim that Americans did not visited the moon.. why the silence
    of All Russian government when some official revive the NASA moon controversy..
    are they trying to tell us something? Cool

    First it was putin close assistant official who revive the controversy.. now
    is Roscosmon chief.. lol1 and the most telling of all things is.. the Silence of any
    Russian Government official in defense of NASA..

    I told it.. every 1-3 months RT revive the moon controversy..
    pssss.. Is not coincidence.. Russia is clearly sending a message to the world..
    that NASA did not landed in the moon. Smile

    and i knew that since more than a decade ago,, before there was any RT..
    it was so obvious the fake , and the big holes in the entire story.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Nov 25, 2018 4:16 am

    Vann7 wrote:....
    And guess what????

    Russia government did it again... lol1

    Russia will check if Americans really went to the Moon – Roscosmos chief
    .......


    Ah yes, it's that time of month from Trampoline Man to demonstrate his braindead stupidity, right on cue. thumbsup

    So his big plan is to permanently tie entire Russian (very dubious) moon exploration program to idiotic conspiracy theory?



    Here is what will happen if he doesn't shut his stupid pie-hole real fast:

    If Russia ever does land on the Moon this entire "accomplishment" will be met with abject ridicule on account of them proving that USA landed on the Moon instead of simple cold disinterest due to them being over half a century late to the party.

    This retard just managed to discredit entire Russian Moon landing project before it even left the drawing board simply because he is illiterate, braindead and perpetually butthurt.

    No honor among thieves and no dignity among Russians... Razz



    Granted, by the time Russia does manage (if ever) to land on the Moon Trampoline Man will be long dead but it will not keep those unfortunate cosmonauts from becoming laughing stock of human species through no fault of their own.



    Also, I'm still waiting on evidence that Gagarin went to space so c'mon Vann, deliver the goods.

    If Moon was fake than faking Gagarin's "flight" is definitely piece of cake. lol1
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    Post  Vann7 Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:26 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Vann7 wrote:....
    And guess what????

    Russia government did it again...   lol1    

    Russia will check if Americans really went to the Moon – Roscosmos chief
    .......



    Also, I'm still waiting on evidence that Gagarin went to space so c'mon Vann, deliver the goods.

    If Moon was fake than faking Gagarin's "flight" is definitely piece of cake. lol1


    So no matter what the Russian Governments say.. you will still believe in NASA moon story?
    is that what you are saying?  tell me who needs to speak ,and say NASA moon landing was a hoax
    for you to believe it?

    You have 3 NASA astronauts and 1 french astronauts telling in videos to the world..

    They can't travel to the moon or mars or any other planet ,with manned crew until they develop first a way to bypass radiation .  Helloooo..  Did you heard that ???  




    So the very same NASA Astronauts... are Exposing the fraud of the moon landing..
    So what the hell more Proof you need ,if the same astronauts are speaking dude???  confused
    i have yet to see a Russian cosmonaut claim ,Russia never arrived in space. . that will only
    make him look like and idiot ..like those who believe in the moon landing of NASA.

    so those that claims nobody have spoken.. is bullshit... Of course their lives and careers are on the line ,
    and they tell things indirectly.. how in hell NASA "destroy technology" and later lose knowledge
    how to do it again??  Suspect  

    So Apparently NASA is the only company in modern history of humanity ,that don't record in papers ,dont make blueprints of the technology they invent..   Laughing

    forgot how to to travel to the moon safely with humans.. and lost many of the moon rocks store locations..
    no one have been allowed to closely look at those rocks. those elusive rocks have to be somewhere Smile

    oh wait... one of the moon rocks was found..  lol1  
    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/32581790/ns/technology_and_science-space/t/moon-rock-museum-just-petrified-wood/#.W_qWuFo8-jg

    It was a piece of wood..   lol1

    are you serious dude???????????  and you still promote this BULLSHIT of NASA in the moon?
    There is Million of evidence it was a total fraud.. a HOAX...  


      and lost the original telemetry data.. you know the recordings of the lander and all the communications of the first landing..  and now depend on private companies and Russia for sending cargo to space.   lol1

    So you need to be a real fanatical extreme ,you need blind faith ,to trust in NASA moon landing cool story.

    When it comes to First satellite in space and first man in space.. this was detected by EUrope radio commications..
    they spread the alarm the Russians managed to reach space ,by listening people in space speaking in Russian..
    why would the british government who hated SOviet Union ,invite Gagarin to talk to the Queen ?  European radio communications and radars detected Gagarin flight..and this is why the entire west was shocked ,because this allowed Russia to send nukes across the entire globe against America ,UK or any part of the world.

    and also you know Russia have been space ,because of the very convincing images of Russia in their space stations and because of the powerful rockets take off too..   But Russia never claimed to land in the moon with humans...
    Only NASA did it..   and is NASA the one that need to proof they landed in the moon..   But all the evidence released by them ,put big question mark on their claims.. and depending on Russia for space today does not help..  lol1

    So lets see AMericans claims they decomission their Saturn Rocket and apollo prophet ,because it was expensive...
    And what they do next?  Create a MORE EXPENSIVE space rocket..     a space shuttle ,that failed because killed was not safe.. then create ANOTHER space shuttle and again FAILED killing many astronauts..

    Lets look at those claims.. for a moment.. Russia space budget is more or less  $1.5 billions USD per year...
    NASA space budget is $12 billions USD per year..  Today NASA space budget is in the $15-17 billions USD ,
    NASA builds new Aircraft carriers every 3-4 years that each one cost up to ~$12 billions dollars.

    So lets me get this right.. NASA use Russia space program because "it wants to save money" but yet they
    spend far more in building aircraft carriers and military bases around the world ,and financing terrorism.. for that money shows.. lol1    But for building a space rocket , to not  depend on Russia.. mmm thats too dificult for them. and so they depend on private companies or Russia to send cargo to space.  Rolling Eyes

    You are very naive dude.. you have to be Paid troll , in this forums , because i can't believe people can be so
    foolish as you show.  Not only NASA depends on Russia for Taxi to the ISS.. but Russia needs to lift off ,American Atlas Rocket too ,by selling rocket engines that NASA use for deep space explorations and for military. Smile

    It did not happen dude.. moon landing was a hoax.. so now tell me ,in which Cave you will hide ,
    when Russia lands on the moon and expose the fraud of NASA ,moon landings ? showing the world there is nothing there? no american flag ,no off road racing cars.. and no single trace of a landing.. Wink

    For Sure NASA will says ALiens stole the flag of US from the moon and erased all the trace  and
    people like you will be believing it.. Smile

    So be ready for more reports ,frequent ones ,from RT ,hinting more and more NASA fake program.

    By the way.. in case you didn't knew..
    the strong rumors around ... of American Space program.. is that SpaceX  is in reality a new division
    of NASA and not just any private company..  SpaceX is a smoke wall ,  to confuse people into thinking
    is Private Company but is not.. US Congress finance SpaceX and most employees of Ellon Musk are from NASA.
    So in light that NASA did not travel to the moon as claimed.. They will now offload the job to "Private" Companies,
    but that will be in reality NASA undercover companies.. that way , if a space mission fails killing astronauts ,they can blame a private company for the failures of US in space .. but not NASA.   Cool

    Any first attempt of NASA to reach the moon ,will have the entire world watching , to see if they cheat again
    and if they fail and people killed ,this will only fuel the fire and make world wide jokes of US space program of the endless evidence that exist that NASA moon landing was a fraud and never happened. and so they will rely on
    private companies like SpaceX or Amazon project ,so they take the blame of any failure in space , instead of NASA..

    NASA offers 29,000 to anyone that can solve the Radiation problem..



    Apparently this was not a problem in the 70's  ,they could fly to moon easily
    back and forth many times.. no problems in those times..  Rolling Eyes  How stupid
    NASA think the world is ?   They simply NEVER solved the problem.. Period..
    and NASA will NOT send humans to a place ,their astronauts will get killed ,because radiation
    on the moon can kill people ,same way radiation from a failed nuclear reactor kill people . Radiation ,
    this ionize matter and provoke a total transformation of it at the atomic level.. a piece of metal will even be
    transformed at the atomic level under heavy radiation. but they will hold for long..Radiation destroy electronics easily ,melt plastics ,and kill humans too..   So you will not send advance technology to so hostile environment ,in 100 degrees Celcius ,where a million things can go wrong. Sending people to the moon without first solving
    radiation is suicide mission.. the most embarrassing thing could happen is to miss the moon orbit and have astronauts navigating forever into deep space.. lol1 Many songs will be written about it.. entire world will laugh at this.. and it will cost the Presidency to any leader.. So there is no chance NASA will go to the moon with humans unless it was 100% safe.

     Before a real moon landing happens.. you need to Try Several times
    and do it right without Humans first..sending monkeys or dogs and test if they survive. SImply it never happened
    dude ,you are totally suffering from a brain dysfunction ,  specially when Same NASA astronauts have been speaking/hint-ing it never happened. Cool

    I bet all NASA astronauts could tomorrow say to the world in the media.. hey sorry ..we lied about the moon.. it was a fraud.. and people like you will still support the Official US government story.. and call anyone who deny it
    "conspirational theories".  Smile

    I will not be surprised if AMericans try to sabotage Russia space moon program, fire a missile at the Soyuz 5..from space ,because Russia landing first in the moon will collapse US image in the world. as leader ,on top that NASA fraud will provoke major lawsuits on US for lying. and major investigations in congress ,to know where the money given to NASA for moon landing was really used. Cool
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    Post  GarryB Sun Nov 25, 2018 2:12 pm

    I suspect it is just their sense of humour...

    Many of the reporters on RT are actually American or British...

    If Russia has to prove it was not involved in the poisoning of the Skripals then the US needs to prove it actually landed on the moon...

    There is no question the Saudis murdered CashYogi Bear... there are plenty of questions regarding the case of the Skripals, yet western sanctions for the unproven case and a few countries stop selling weapons to the people murdering thousands in Yemen over the death of one Washington Post reporter who actually supported Osama Bin Laden.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun Nov 25, 2018 3:02 pm

    GarryB wrote:I suspect it is just their sense of humour...

    Many of the reporters on RT are actually American or British...

    If Russia has to prove it was not involved in the poisoning of the Skripals then the US needs to prove it actually landed on the moon...


    this is a good one and realistic one +1000
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    Post  Hole Sun Nov 25, 2018 5:30 pm

    Even if they didn´t land on the moon, this would be in the news for two days and then gone. The morons in the media would propably Claim that it was a good lie because the country needed it back then… bla, bla, bla.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:10 am

    @PapaD

    $10bn wasted before Rogozin came. That is one of reasons he was appointed. So no it is not his issue. Let's see how he develops new directions now.

    The report of the Accounts Chamber reported that in 2017, the agency revealed 151 facts of irregularities in the work of the Roscosmos State Corporation for a total of 785.5 billion rubles. The head of "Roskosmos" Dmitry Rogozin, in turn, asked the Accounts Chamber to conduct an audit of the industry and approved a plan to counter corruption for 2018-2020.

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    Post  Vann7 Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:29 pm

    GarryB wrote:I suspect it is just their sense of humour...

    Many of the reporters on RT are actually American or British...

    If Russia has to prove it was not involved in the poisoning of the Skripals then the US needs to prove it actually landed on the moon...

    There is no question the Saudis murdered CashYogi Bear... there are plenty of questions regarding the case of the Skripals, yet western sanctions for the unproven case and a few countries stop selling weapons to the people murdering thousands in Yemen over the death of one Washington Post reporter who actually supported Osama Bin Laden.


    Take a look Garry..
    Rogozing was asked if NASA reached the moon in public  (The apollo manned landing program if it was real?)



    What was Rogozin Answer..???


    They say   ,they did it.. we will check it out when we go there..   ... and with a smile on his face.

    All spanish speaking media are in full LOL mode... This is the major discussion today ,consequence of RT..
    reviving AGAIN for the million time the NASA controversy.. and the blind fanatics furious , claiming RT
    is fake news.. so It should be obvious Russia is sending Hints , Lots of Hints that NASA is lying the world with the moon. Is not like it will be the first time the American government will lie isn't it???  Weapon of mass destruction>?
    Assad using chemicals on its people? 911 WTC ?

    The title of the video of RT in spanish is...... ?

    The cosmonauts will verify if NASA really landed in the moon..   Very Happy

    Is interesting that..
    the Russian government Putin ,the Russian military or other Space cosmonauts from today space program ,
    can debunk Rogozin and contradict his claims.. Putin could have easily "put an end" to the controversy
    by just saying in public , that NASA did landed in the moon.. to stop saying conspiracies theories..

    But the Silence of the Russian government about what Rogozin told , questioning NASA landing speak volumes .  Smile
    This is not the first official who question NASA moon landing. a year ago..another Putin Aided wanted to start an international lawsuit against NASA for Fraud in the moon..  Suspect  to force NASA to say where are the moon rocks located.. they extracted from the moon..  lol1

    Every 1-3 months RT bring back the controversy of NASA moon landing.. this does not happen by coincidence.
    Now you have the HEAD of Roscosmons ,who have to be very well informed by Russia intelligence of NASA
    capabilities .. and NASA past..  and he is the one creating doubts about NASA landing.. in the moon.  Wink

    So they never did it.. Even NASA astronauts , No less than 4 NASA astronauts
    are saying NASA "dont have technology to protect against radiation". WTF!!
    and that they need to find a way ??  confused  to solve the problem of Radiation..
    but didn't this was solved in the 70s ???  

    I can't really believe people be so blind to not see the writing in the wall..
    1) Russia government says NASA never landed in the moon..
    2)NASA astronauts saying they can't go to the moon
    until solve the radiation problem..

    Time to wake up guys..  if it looks like an apple ,smell like an apple and taste like an apple
    is because is an apple. The entire Story of NASA moon landing is full of Holes . and anyone that do
    an investigation ,using logic and science ,will see that is fake the entire NASA moon landing.
    What is more interesting is that IF Russia proof ,NASA never landed in the moon.. it will place a
    Big Question mark on NASA Mars exploration..   There is actual claims on investigations done by others..
    that NASA rovers are in reality in a military desertic zone in Canada and IceLand , closed to public..
    When it comes to Mars , i don't know ,since i have not done a deep research ,but will not be surprising
    if it is fake too.. I give NASA the probability that those mars videos a 50/50 that are true.. means there is
    a big chance is fake too , but it will not be impossible that they are real. Because sending Rovers to other planets
    is not as challenging as sending humans. Soviets sent rovers to Venus.. which should be way more harder than mars.. for the most brutal conditions there.

    This is why many lawmakers in congress ,were considering the possibility to criminalize
    anyone who deny the NASA landing in the moon.. so much for freedom of expression?.. Shocked
    and why you see hollywood celebrities Scientist like Neale Degrease tyson.. on a tour
    to debate any youtube media who claims NASA never landed on the moon. is called damage control..

    So this is why im never impressed by any claim of NASA they say ,they did..
    NASA is perfectly capable of staging videos ,and doing false claims on their achievements on Space and
    release CG animations and claim is a "new landing".. NASA is the main Propagandist tool used by US to advertise their country as the most advanced and capable nation in the world..  So it will make sense ,them ,to stage videos , to promote their nation as a leader in space and to overshadow Russia image in the world as a second class nation.


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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:01 pm

    Vann7 wrote:It should be obvious Russia is sending Hints , Lots of Hints...



    Yeah, lots of hints.... that Rogozin is Grade-A moron lol1

    And definitely not subtle hints...
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    Post  Vann7 Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:12 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Vann7 wrote:It should be obvious Russia is sending Hints , Lots of Hints...



    Yeah, lots of hints.... that Rogozin is Grade-A moron lol1

    And definitely not subtle hints...

    are NASA astronauts Moron too ?


    So let me explain you it .. to go to the moon ,you need Protection against
    Radiation and NASA Astronauts says .. WE DONT HAVE IT.... WE need
    to Solve the radiation problem FIRST before going to moon and mars..

    so how in hell mr FOOL they did it if they don't know how to do it today ???

    and Why Neale Armstrong gave fake moon rocks to museums claiming them
    the rocks were from the moon ? and turned to be wood with advance laboratories
    investigation??

    It never happened. dude...
    you are the only one biggest delusional fanboy.. . NASA astronauts hints they never
    landed in the moon.. and Russia government also do the same.. Laughing

    update..
    the entire internet and youtube is exploding after Rogozin put into question if NASA did landed
    or not in the moon.. and that will verify it.. lol1
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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:08 pm

    Vann7 wrote:.............
    update..
    the entire internet and youtube is exploding after Rogozin put into question if NASA did landed
    or not in the moon.. and that will verify it..  

    YouTube is chock full of morons who think that Earth is flat

    But I am sure you are intimately familiar with that fact Razz
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    Post  Tingsay Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:40 pm

    The Earth IS flat.

    If it's round, why don't Australian's fall into space?
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    Post  Hole Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:30 pm

    Because they wear special boots. Very Happy
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    Post  George1 Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:06 pm

    Russian space agency earns $225.5 mln from astronauts’ delivery to orbital outpost

    Roscosmos earned funds under the contract, which stipulates accompanying and implementing works for the rotation and the rescue of NASA astronauts appointed by the US side

    MOSCOW, November 30. /TASS/ Russia’s State Space Corporation Roscosmos earned $225.5 million in 2017 from the delivery of US astronauts into outer space, according to Roscosmos’ report posted on its website on Friday.

    "By the results of the works carried out in 2017 and accepted by NASA representatives in the course of four Program Management Review meetings, the State Corporation Roscosmos received funds in the following amounts: $26,527,291 within the framework of the 250/261 modifications, $86,777,948 within the framework of the 262 modification, $112,267,948 within the framework of the 277 modification," the report says.

    Roscosmos earned funds under the contract NAS15-10110, which stipulates accompanying and implementing works for the rotation and the rescue of NASA astronauts appointed by the US side.

    According to NASA’s information, the contract was signed in 1993 to the tune of $3.9 billion and expired on June 30 this year.


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    Post  GarryB Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:47 am

    Yeah, lots of hints.... that Rogozin is Grade-A moron

    Sounds like he has a good sense of humour... and why should he trust the Americans... America also say Russia is the aggressor and is the enemy of the EU and invaded the Ukraine and annexed the Crimea... the way the Israelis annexed the Golan Heights in Syria, but no one in the US is demanding Israel give anything back.

    Why should anyone trust America or Americans without proof.

    When the Russians get to the moon they can look for proof if they can be bothered...

    If it's round, why don't Australian's fall into space?

    Why don't you fall into space... most theories show the first humans developed in South Africa so if anything it is the northern hemisphere that is on the bottom of the planet... what a bigoted view of the world you have... Razz

    According to NASA’s information, the contract was signed in 1993 to the tune of $3.9 billion and expired on June 30 this year.

    I would say the Russians should double the costs for America to use Russian facilities and systems, because once they get new rocket engines and no longer need Russian ones they are likely to drop the Russians like a hot rock when they don't need them for anything.

    Reported cooperation in new space stations developed by NASA use all American standard systems and couplings and they just want the Russians to make things to their specs but not develop anything... screw that.

    I am sure Iran and China and even India will buy powerful Russian rocket engines... NASA can suck eggs.
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    Post  Hole Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:59 am

    To achieve this egg-sucking NASA will need another 2 Billion. At least. And russian egg-sucking equipment. Laughing

    The "partnership" for the Gateway moon station was already scrapped by Russia, Rogosin stated it a few weeks ago. Russia will build the docking port ($$$) and develop her own station.
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    Post  Tingsay Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:10 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    If it's round, why don't Australian's fall into space?

    Why don't you fall into space... most theories show the first humans developed in South Africa so if anything it is the northern hemisphere that is on the bottom of the planet... what a bigoted view of the world you have...  Razz


    I can understand the belief of it being round due to the Koala's tree-hugging ability as to not fall into space.. But come on, the humans there don't hug the trees when they're on the beach, so clearly world is flat.
    I mean even the Japanese would slide off!
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    Post  George1 Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:00 pm

    Soyuz MS-11 crewmembers enter International Space Station


    The spokesman for the mission control center said that the crewmembers feel well


    KOROLYOV /Moscow region/, December 3. /TASS/. The crewmembers of the manned Soyuz MS-11 spacecraft that docked to the International Space Station (ISS) on Monday evening has entered the station after pressure inside the spaceship and the station was equalized, a spokesman for the mission control center told TASS.

    "The hatch has been opened, the crew entered the ISS. The crewmembers feel well," the spokesman said.

    The Soyuz MS-11 docked to the ISS in the automatic mode at 22:38 Moscow time after a six-hour orbital flight. The new expedition comprises Russian cosmonaut Oleg Kononenko, NASA astronaut Anne McClain and astronaut of the Canadian Space Agency David Saint-Jacques. They were welcomed by Roscosmos cosmonaut Sergei Prokopyev, NASA astronaut Serena Aunon-Chancellor and astronaut of the European Space Agency Alexander Gerst.

    During its 194-day stay on the orbital outpost, the new crew will carry out a lot of operations and 48 scientific experiments. In particular, the crew will work with the Russian Progress MS resupply ships, load and undock the commercial SpaceX DM1 cargo spaceship, work with the Boe-OFT resupply ship, load and undock the Russian manned Soyuz MS-09 spacecraft for the return of the ISS-56/57 crew to Earth, as well as to conduct onboard photo and video surveys of the flight.

    The new crew’s research experiments will be devoted to physical and chemical processes and materials in outer space, the exploration of Earth and outer space, the study of the human organism in the conditions of an orbital flight, biology and bio-technology.

    Also, Kononenko and Prokopyev are expected to make a spacewalk in the second ten-day period of December to inspect a hole in the manned Soyuz MS-09 spacecraft’s hull.

    On August 30 a drop in air pressure was registered on the ISS. The crew examined the compartments and add-on modules one by one to identify a two-millimeter hole in the hull of the Soyuz MS-09 spacecraft attached to the orbital outpost. In the evening of the same day it was patched up with several layers of epoxy resin. Pressure returned to normal. On August 31 the crew reinforced the patch with another layer of sealant.

    Earlier, the spacewalk to inspect the Soyuz spacecraft’s hole was planned for November 15 and Russian cosmonauts Prokopyev and Ovchinin were expected to have carried it out but Ovchinin did not travel to the ISS due to the Soyuz abortive launch on October 11.

    The Soyuz-FG carrier rocket with the manned Soyuz MS-11 spacecraft blasted off from the first launch site of the Baikonur Cosmodrome at 14:31 Moscow time on Monday.

    This is the first launch of a manned spacecraft after the abortive blastoff of the Soyuz carrier rocket on October 11.

    Soyuz-FG carrier rocket with a manned Soyuz MS-10 spacecraft blasted off from Kazakhstan’s Baikonur Cosmodrome to the International Space Station (ISS) on October 11. On board the spacecraft were Russian cosmonaut Alexei Ovchinin (the commander of the Soyuz MS-10) and NASA astronaut Nick Hague.

    Following a smooth liftoff, the Soyuz’s booster malfunctioned between the first and second stages of separating, whereupon the crew was forced to abort the flight and switch to ballistic descent. The manned Soyuz MS-10 spacecraft ended up landing safely in the Kazakh steppe. The crew was not hurt. This was the first emergency situation with the launch of a manned spacecraft over the past 35 years.

    The incident-probing commission announced on November 1 that the emergency situation occurred after "a nozzle cover on the oxidizer tank failed to open due to the deformation of the separation contact sensor.".


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    Post  Vann7 Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:28 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Vann7 wrote:.............
    update..
    the entire internet and youtube is exploding after Rogozin put into question if NASA did landed
    or not in the moon.. and that will verify it..  

    YouTube is chock full of morons who think that Earth is flat

    But I am sure you are intimately familiar with that fact Razz


    take a look at your heroes in NASA..

    NASA itself admit they lost the telemetry data ,the only records they had ,of how the lunar landing happened..  lol1 ..





    So give me a FUCKING BREAK.. dude is not only Rogozin who says this ok?
    Is the ENTIRE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT who also strongly hinting NASA faked the moon..
    two Putin close officials are on record questioning NASA moon landing and now is Russia space agency chief.
    and Russia government in no time , came to the rescue of NASA , but remained silent at the controversy
    raised by top Russian government officials..

    How stupid NASA thinks society is ?   Laughing

    So let me understand.. the most important information in human history lost..
    1)NASA lost the trace of the moon rocks where they are stored..  Shocked
    2)NASA lost the communication telemetry data records of NASA in the moon..  Shocked
    3)NASA lose the original footage of NASA landing in the moon.. ???  
    how can that is possible? confused
    4)NASA astronauts claim also "lost the technology" to bypass radiation in the moon..opps..  Shocked

    5)NASA decommission of the most important Rocket ever created by them.. Saturn rocket.  
    instead of improving it ,and did not return to the moon in 50 years.. and start again from zero
    in their space program?? with a new rocket..  and focus instead in low earth orbit
    boring projects??
    6)The moon rocks given by Armstrong to European museums ,turned to be fake piece of wood
    emulating lunar Rocks..   lol1

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/space/6105902/Moon-rock-given-to-Holland-by-Neil-Armstrong-and-Buzz-Aldrin-is-fake.html

    7)Russia government , though its media RT , is resurrecting the moon landing controversies
    every month.. and now the Director of Roscosmos Rogozin is openly in public ,denying NASA
    landed in the moon..  Laughing

    How stupid can people be? Only trolls could "believe" in such monumental lie..
    after so OVERWHELMING evidence points it was FAKE as hell.  No
    that NASA landed in the moon.. and only people with a brain Dysfunction like yourself..
    someone with serious mental issues ,will continue believing in the moon landing story of NASA
    after clear evidence presented ,being reported that it was FAKE..

    So Russia government and RT says NASA landing was FAKE.. Astronauts indirectly say it was FAKE.
    "they destroyed the technology to land in the moon" , Governments in Europe claims NASA given Rocks
    were FAKE as hell.. just a piece of wood. . 100% of the evidence released by NASA contradict NASA claims .

    So how you expect dude people to believe in the moon story when 100% of the evidence contradict
    their claims???  confused

    BTW.. ignore the flat earth logo in the video. their channels are hijacking every video in youtube about the moon
    controversy of NASA and re-uploading the videos in their channels.. and Youtube give preference to their channels
    in search ,whenever you try to research to the moon.This is done to confuse people honest investigation about
    NASA questionable moon program.

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