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Su-57 Stealth Fighter: News #5

kvs

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Post n°976

Re: Su-57 Stealth Fighter: News #5

kvs Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:15 pm

GarryB wrote:The MiG-31 has been able to link with other MiG-31s to create a virtual radar that can cover airspace from ground to near space across a distance of up to 1,200km or so... with a depth of 2-300km... mainly with the purpose watching for incoming bombers and cruise missiles.

The ground based Nebo system combines three different radar types to track stealth aircraft combining the useful effects of Ku and Ka band, L band, and VHF band radars to maximise performance and minimise weaknesses.... certainly having L band wing mounted antenna and forward looking Ku and Ka band radar should allow excellent forward looking performance against stealthy targets, and with their data links and communications they are working on it should be possible to combine the information generated by a range of radars and sensors to form a picture of the airspace around these aircraft.

The non-locality of the Russian response is something few realize or understand. While every fanboi is spooging over "stealth" and mythical US and
NATO "high tech", Russia links its response in a distributed network to reach another level of effectiveness. This sort of out of the box thinking dates
back to the USSR era such as the networking of the Granit missiles. The US and CERN can claim credit for the internet, but they can't claim
credit for military networks. One of the reasons why all the yapping about "stealth" is so laughable is that networked radar systems can identify
any US stealth aircraft nice and easy. It was the networking of Serb radars that helped them bring down the F-117A. But the Serb radar systems
were outdated and the scale of the networking was much smaller.

Any western leader-clown who thinks that a military intervention into Russia will be a cakewalk is a certifiable retard and will repeat the same
mistakes of hubris as his predecessors (e.g. Hitler, Napoleon, the Teutonic Knights).

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Cyberspec Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:55 pm

052 testing the 2nd stage (Izd. 30) engine at Gromov - Oct 2019
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Re: Su-57 Stealth Fighter: News #5

PapaDragon Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:55 am

Su-57 received official NATO codename 'FELON' thumbsup

NATO Code Name “FELON”: Russian Su-57 Gets Its Reporting Name, And It Couldn’t Be Better.

https://theaviationist.com/2019/11/01/nato-code-name-felon-su-57-gets-its-reporting-name-and-it-couldnt-be-better/

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GarryB Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:25 am

As mentioned in the comments at the bottom of the page... no western country would name their own fighter aircraft after a criminal.

NATO can go fuck itself.

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Re: Su-57 Stealth Fighter: News #5

thegopnik Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:06 am

Felon? Since the F-35 is an international project the Russian designation should be called the "le 56%"(google images to get the joke) the mig-31 has a cool name at least.

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GarryB Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:58 am

Just serves as a reminder not to give in to western propaganda... we used to have to rely on them because often we didn't know the real designation for a long time after aircraft had entered service, but these days that is not an excuse.

Clearly we need to use Russian designations and names instead.

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JohninMK Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:50 am

I quite like it, Su-57 Felon.

In this application there are some quite good connotations to the word felon or, in more common language, thief.

The biggest one is that in modern western societies felons seem to be able to successfully go about their businesses with the authorities being unable to either stop them of punish them adequately if caught. Another is that felons are masters of the night whilst even during daylight the latest surveillance systems seem to let them through.

Bare in mind that it is a very traditional word rarely used nowadays and when it is it is to emphasize the skill level of the person, usually by a newspaper.

So a felon is top class, is hard to detect and difficult to stop. Bang on the money then Laughing

The NATO naming committee seem to have selected a name well up to general NATO standards. Looks clever and smart on the surface but dig a bit deeper and the flaws appear.

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GarryB Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:54 pm

I don't agree... this was an F word with two syllables that means criminal... the Russians should get revenge by painting all their Su-57s black because obviously in the US all Felons are black...

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PapaDragon Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:58 am

GarryB wrote:I don't agree... this was an F word with two syllables that means criminal... the Russians should get revenge by painting all their Su-57s black because obviously in the US all Felons are black....

Jesus, will you tone it down a bit?

Do you honestly expect any nation to give flattering names to military equipment manufactured by their adversaries?

Best you can hope for is cool name and this one delivers. Definitely superior to Frogfoot, Fishbed or Faggot.

And do you really think that painting Su-57 black would be a bad thing? Did you even take a look at that image you posted?

I don't see Russians giving any kind of names to their aircraft so somebody has to.

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william.boutros Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:42 am

PapaDragon wrote:

GarryB wrote:I don't agree... this was an F word with two syllables that means criminal... the Russians should get revenge by painting all their Su-57s black because obviously in the US all Felons are black....

Jesus, will you tone it down a bit?

Do you honestly expect any nation to give flattering names to military equipment manufactured by their adversaries?

Best you can hope for is cool name and this one delivers. Definitely superior to Frogfoot, Fishbed or Faggot.

And do you really think that painting Su-57 black would be a bad thing? Did you even take a look at that image you posted?

I don't see Russians giving any kind of names to their aircraft so somebody has to.

Would be interesting if the Russians call the F-35 "chicken". It is fat and cannot fly.

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Isos Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:39 am

PapaDragon wrote:

GarryB wrote:I don't agree... this was an F word with two syllables that means criminal... the Russians should get revenge by painting all their Su-57s black because obviously in the US all Felons are black....

Jesus, will you tone it down a bit?

Do you honestly expect any nation to give flattering names to military equipment manufactured by their adversaries?

Best you can hope for is cool name and this one delivers. Definitely superior to Frogfoot, Fishbed or Faggot.

And do you really think that painting Su-57 black would be a bad thing? Did you even take a look at that image you posted?

I don't see Russians giving any kind of names to their aircraft so somebody has to.

Well actually those clowns in washington participated in Russia's success in sailing its weapons by making reports of how counter "A2/AD". A term invented by them to qualify russian weapon (mostly air defence, kilo class and anti ship missiles).

Since few years ago they have been forbiden to use this words when talking about russian weapons.

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GarryB Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:54 am

Jesus, will you tone it down a bit?

No, fuckem... they are free to choose names but I don't have to like or accept them.

The I-16 was called the Rat by its enemies in the spanish civil war, I don't accept that name for it either... what idiot would let their enemies name their products?