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Tingsay wrote:What aesa radars are Karakurts using?
Props should go to the ppl at Balancer forum that post them 
I always seem to think of Grishas as more like 1500ton for some reason & I was thinking 12700 are similar size 
Neither Karakut nor Buyan can replace Parchim. Russia still lack light AWS corvette for replacing Grisha and Parchim classTingsay wrote:Heavily armed cute ships
Karakurts (with Buyan-Ms) will replace all Nanuchkas, Tarantuls, Parchims and Boras 1 for 1, correct? I sure fucking hope so, seeing as how larger classes aren't remotely keeping up to pace.
Tingsay wrote:Heavily armed cute ships
Karakurts (with Buyan-Ms) will replace all Nanuchkas, Tarantuls, Parchims and Boras 1 for 1, correct? I sure fucking hope so, seeing as how larger classes aren't remotely keeping up to pace.
Tingsay wrote:I forgot Parchim was a light ASW. However, there should be no replacement for any light ASW. Decades ago yeah I see why they made them. Now? its just a half-assed anti-sub weapon. Shipborne light weight torpedos suck in these day and age. Outranged and outsped by submarine heavy torpedoes, its not funny. Helicopters for anti-sub or get out. Pr 22160 should have a ASW variant as replacement for Parchims.
They are needed for Ohotsk and White sea as well to protect bases RuNavy have there from submarine infiltration and to spare capital ships from that duty as much as possible.Big_Gazza wrote:Tingsay wrote:I forgot Parchim was a light ASW. However, there should be no replacement for any light ASW. Decades ago yeah I see why they made them. Now? its just a half-assed anti-sub weapon. Shipborne light weight torpedos suck in these day and age. Outranged and outsped by submarine heavy torpedoes, its not funny. Helicopters for anti-sub or get out. Pr 22160 should have a ASW variant as replacement for Parchims.
Light ASW still has uses in littoral areas like Baltic and the Black Sea where the likely enemy will be SSKs that lack the speed to outrun a fast surface corvette. Helos clearly have much greater range and ability to interdict swiftly, but they are restricted to sonobuoys and magnetometers, and carry smaller aerial torpedos of limited range and warhead size. Parchims have a decent sonar (for their age) and 400mm torps, incl wire and acoustic guided variants, so they are quite capable in this regard.
Agree that a 22160 variant geared for ASW could be a fine replacement for the ageing Parchims but it would be a significant design change to include a box sonar and torpedos.
More:MOSCOW, July 30. /TASS/. Russia may supply Project 22800 corvettes codenamed Karakurt, armed with the Kaliber missiles, to Vietnam, China, India and other countries of the Asia-Pacific Region, Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov told reporters on Monday.
The delivery time of warships in 2018 can be broken"The corvette has an acceptable price, it is small, compact, high-speed, I believe that for a number of countries, especially the Asia-Pacific region - China, India, other countries - it has a good export potential, "Borisov said. ..Earlier it was reported that the Russian Navy should receive 18 small missile ships of Project 22800, while the first two would be transferred in 2018. The ships are equipped with a complex of high-precision missile weapons and modern artillery systems, power plants of Russian production.
http://www.ng.ru/news/623879.html?print=Y
marat wrote:I am not sure if I understood well but seems that production of 2 more Kakakuts is started. ( or at least 3 more are ordered)
https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/110323/
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