They are still procuring this? Is Aviakor still producing it? When do they plan to stop production?George1 wrote:The Russian Defense Ministry will receive in 2016, 5 AN-148
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Svyatoslavich wrote:They are still procuring this? Is Aviakor still producing it? When do they plan to stop production?George1 wrote:The Russian Defense Ministry will receive in 2016, 5 AN-148
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Yes Aviakor in Samara. The only thing i know is what article says that 70% of parts are Russian made and 30% Ukrainian made
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Svyatoslavich wrote:They are still procuring this? Is Aviakor still producing it? When do they plan to stop production?George1 wrote:The Russian Defense Ministry will receive in 2016, 5 AN-148
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Part of 15 aircraft ordered which are behind schedule due to having to replace the Ukrainian parts.
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George1 wrote:Svyatoslavich wrote:They are still procuring this? Is Aviakor still producing it? When do they plan to stop production?George1 wrote:The Russian Defense Ministry will receive in 2016, 5 AN-148
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1728329.html
Yes Aviakor in Samara. The only thing i know is what article says that 70% of parts are Russian made and 30% Ukrainian made
Get your Antonovs right.
Aviakor in Samara produces the An-140
VASO in Voronezh produces the An-148
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Yes, you are right, my mistake. Anyway, I don't see much sense in continuing production of these aircrafts. Is An-140 still being manufactured?TheArmenian wrote:George1 wrote:Svyatoslavich wrote:They are still procuring this? Is Aviakor still producing it? When do they plan to stop production?George1 wrote:The Russian Defense Ministry will receive in 2016, 5 AN-148
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1728329.html
Yes Aviakor in Samara. The only thing i know is what article says that 70% of parts are Russian made and 30% Ukrainian made
Get your Antonovs right.
Aviakor in Samara produces the An-140
VASO in Voronezh produces the An-148
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VKS will receive three An-148 in 2017
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Wing kit and F-2 for the 15th An-148 aircraft of the Russian Air Force was delivered to Voronezh from Kiev
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The last four An-148-100E engines and D-436-148 engines for the Russian VCS in the final assembly shop of VASO
The original is taken from a colleague diana_mihailova in the last four An-148-100E and engines D-436-148 for the VCS RF in the final assembly shop of the VASO
The contract for the Russian military will be executed in 2018
In the final assembly shop, 4 "extreme" AN-148 sides were assembled into the shots of photographers, which are assembled for the Russian Defense Ministry:
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/2826465.html
The original is taken from a colleague diana_mihailova in the last four An-148-100E and engines D-436-148 for the VCS RF in the final assembly shop of the VASO
The contract for the Russian military will be executed in 2018
In the final assembly shop, 4 "extreme" AN-148 sides were assembled into the shots of photographers, which are assembled for the Russian Defense Ministry:
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/2826465.html
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The Eleventh An-148 for the Ministry of Defense of Russia
It is reported that on September 13, 2017 in Voronezh, flight tests of the next An-148-100E passenger aircraft, built by JSC "Voronezh Joint-Stock Aircraft Building Society" (VASO, part of United Aircraft Corporation-UAC) for the Russian Defense Ministry-cars with serial number 43-08 and registration number RA-61731. This board became the first An-148, raised in the air in Voronezh in 2017.
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It is reported that on September 13, 2017 in Voronezh, flight tests of the next An-148-100E passenger aircraft, built by JSC "Voronezh Joint-Stock Aircraft Building Society" (VASO, part of United Aircraft Corporation-UAC) for the Russian Defense Ministry-cars with serial number 43-08 and registration number RA-61731. This board became the first An-148, raised in the air in Voronezh in 2017.
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Russian military will receive in 2017 only two new An-148 because of the failure of the supply of components
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12th An-148 for the Ministry of Defense of Russia
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Two VASO built An-148(-100E?) have been transferred to the 1st Air Force & Air Defence (VVS i PVO) Command in Leningrad Oblast(ZVO).
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- 35 DA42T twin prop trainers to be purchased for basic air training of Military Transport Aviation air crew
- MoD interested in another 18 L-410UVP 19-seat STOL to be manufactured in Russia
- also a updated version of the Israeli Searcher Mk2 assembled in Russia made completely with Russian parts to also be purchased. (There were ~ 30 Searchers complexes or Forpost in Russian purchased, each with Control, Recovery, Maintenance units along with 3 UAV's.)
- 35 DA42T twin prop trainers to be purchased for basic air training of Military Transport Aviation air crew
- MoD interested in another 18 L-410UVP 19-seat STOL to be manufactured in Russia
- also a updated version of the Israeli Searcher Mk2 assembled in Russia made completely with Russian parts to also be purchased. (There were ~ 30 Searchers complexes or Forpost in Russian purchased, each with Control, Recovery, Maintenance units along with 3 UAV's.)
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The Ministry of Defense of Russia began purchasing Diamond DA42T aircraft as training
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As reported on December 25, 2017 by the Department of Information and Communications of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, Deputy Minister of Defense Yuri Borisov visited the Urals Civil Aviation Plant (UZGA) in Yekaterinburg on a working visit.
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The Diamond DA42T aircraft (on-board number "054"), intended for delivery to the Ministry of Defense of Russia, in the shop of JSC "Ural Civil Aviation Plant" (UZGA). Ekaterinburg, December 25, 2017 (with) Alexey Ivanov / TRK "Zvezda"
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Speaking at a meeting with the company's staff, Yury Borisov said that the Russian Defense Ministry planned from 2019 on further purchases of Vorpost drones, improved taking into account combat experience in Syria and assembled entirely from Russian components.
"In Syria," Forpost "has proven itself from the very best side. Therefore, we are making plans for the next decade to use these complexes. Naturally, they will undergo modernization, "Yury Borisov explained.
He thanked the employees of the plant, who were constantly at the airbase of Khmeimim in Syria, where they provided maintenance for unmanned vehicles.
"The plant supplied about 30 Forpost complexes to the troops, but they were still assembled from imported components. At the request of the Ministry of Industry and Trade, the plant has performed work on import substitution and we are discussing plans for ordering a new contract in 2019 with 100% localization. Thus, "Outpost" will be entirely Russian, "- said Yuri Borisov.
The reconnaissance unmanned fleet "Forpost" includes three aircraft and a ground control station. The weight of one aircraft is 500 kilograms. He is capable of reconnaissance from a height of five kilometers for 16 hours at a distance of up to 400 kilometers.
Yuri Borisov also said that "the Ministry of Defense has a firm contract for 35 training aircraft that will be used to train cadets of military transport aviation."
According to him, in 2017, three aircraft were delivered. In 2018, the state joint tests will be completed.
"In the plans for next year there are already 17 aircraft, and in 2019, another 15. Total will be 35 aircraft delivered," - explained Yuri Borisov.
He also noted that the Defense Ministry has plans to use the aircraft as a platform in other areas, including as a patrol.
In addition, the Ministry of Defense of Russia was interested in aircraft L-410.
"It interests us for use in difficult weather conditions, for landing on water, on snow. We provided a modification of the float and ski, so that it could be used in the interests of including special operations forces, "Yury Borisov said.
The multi-purpose 19-seat L-410 aircraft is produced at the Ural Civil Aviation Plant in two versions: as a training and transportation vehicle for cargo and passengers.
Modernization of the aircraft by the plant means, first of all, the replacement of the on-board equipment with the domestic one, the change in landing gear of the chassis is a ski chassis for landing on snow and a float for landing on water. In addition, a landing gear for landing on a soft ground, unprepared platform is being developed.
The bmpd comment. Thus, we are talking about the beginning of the purchase by the Ministry of Defense of Russia of light two-motor four-seat aircraft Diamond DA42 NG Twin Star, produced by the Austrian company Diamond Aircraft Industries GmbH, to be used as training aircraft for preparation for the Ural Civil Aviation Plant (UZGA) cadets of military transport aviation of the Russian Air Force. The DA42 NG airplanes are equipped with Austro Engine AE 300 aviation diesel engines from Austro Engine, owned by the same Diamond Aircraft,
Recall that the issue of the acquisition by the Ministry of Defense of Russia aircraft Diamond DA42 NG as training was instituted in 2010-2011. In 2013, UZGA received a contract from the Ministry of Defense to create a specialized training version of the DA42 NG, designated DA42T. Earlier it was reported that the assembly of DA42T at UZGA was to begin in 2015, and in 2016 it was planned to achieve their localization of the level of supposedly 100%. However, in fact, the assembly of these machines for the Ministry of Defense was started, as can be seen from the above message, only now.
UZGA also participates in the development of manned and unmanned observation platforms based on DA42 aircraft (such platforms based on DA42 are widely used all over the world). As it was already reported, in 2016 the Russian FSB purchased two DA42M NG aircraft from the UZGA with additional equipment for use in reconnaissance variant "for provision of state needs". Now the interest to such complexes on the basis of DA42 NG is shown by the Russian Defense Ministry. It should be noted that such aircraft are widely used
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franco wrote:https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3021206.html
- 35 DA42T twin prop trainers to be purchased for basic air training of Military Transport Aviation air crew
- MoD interested in another 18 L-410UVP 19-seat STOL to be manufactured in Russia
- also a updated version of the Israeli Searcher Mk2 assembled in Russia made completely with Russian parts to also be purchased. (There were ~ 30 Searchers complexes or Forpost in Russian purchased, each with Control, Recovery, Maintenance units along with 3 UAV's.)
This is intereting. It refers to some of the weakest contracts of air equipment, and all have the same factory involved.
The L-410 and the Diamond DA42 are both small auxiliary aircrafts of foreign orignin and low technological level, that make not a difference in the defense of Russia. The Diamond DA42 has still to pass some tests in 2018, where can have some problems, and likely the L-410 will require some tests too. The UAV includes a little more advanced technology, but at this point is surpassed.
The three are fairly dispensable for Russia. I do not expect these contracts to be completed.
If there is budget for these contracts with this factory, it is obvious that the problem would be with the products to produce in the factory. Very likely this factory needs a new strong product to make. Maybe some of the most modern UAVs.
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13th An-148 for the Ministry of Defense of Russia
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Sorry if this has been mentioned before.
does anyone know why Russia is purchasing 35 Diamond DA42 Twin Star trainers from Austria? doesn't Russia have anything similar? also the article states purchase of 18 L-410 Czech transport I thought Russia was focused on Russia produced equipment thought this was a bit risky especially all these sanctions being implemented.
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3021206.html
does anyone know why Russia is purchasing 35 Diamond DA42 Twin Star trainers from Austria? doesn't Russia have anything similar? also the article states purchase of 18 L-410 Czech transport I thought Russia was focused on Russia produced equipment thought this was a bit risky especially all these sanctions being implemented.
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3021206.html
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d_taddei2 wrote:Sorry if this has been mentioned before.
does anyone know why Russia is purchasing 35 Diamond DA42 Twin Star trainers from Austria? doesn't Russia have anything similar? also the article states purchase of 18 L-410 Czech transport I thought Russia was focused on Russia produced equipment thought this was a bit risky especially all these sanctions being implemented.
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3021206.html
Article says that they were purchased as trainers for military transport aviation cadets
FSB also purchased 2 DA-42M-NGs fitted with reconnaissance equipment
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Also that they being manufactured in Russia now.
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14th An-148 for the Ministry of Defense of Russia
After the completion of the contract with the Russian Defense Ministry to supply 15 of these aircraft, in 2019 further construction of An-148 aircraft in Voronezh will be frozen.
According to the known data, of the 13 received by the Ministry of Defense of Russia by the present contract for the AN-148-100E aircraft, nine are part of the 8th Special Purpose Air Division at the Chkalovsky (Moscow region) aerodrome, two in the 33rd separate transport mixed aviation regiment of the 6th Air Force and Air Defense Army of the Western Military District (Levashovo, Leningrad Region) and two - in the 30th separate transport mixed aviation regiment of the 4th Red Banner Army of the Air Force and Air Defense of the Southern Military District (Rostov-on- Don).
According to the Russian Ministry of Defense, the last two new An-148-100E aircraft of the 2018 program (boards with serial numbers 44-01 and 44-02) will be delivered to the 390th separate mixed transport aviation regiment of the Central Military District stationed at Koltsovo airfield in Sverdlovsk region. The pilots of the 390th regiment are already undergoing retraining
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3269936.html
After the completion of the contract with the Russian Defense Ministry to supply 15 of these aircraft, in 2019 further construction of An-148 aircraft in Voronezh will be frozen.
According to the known data, of the 13 received by the Ministry of Defense of Russia by the present contract for the AN-148-100E aircraft, nine are part of the 8th Special Purpose Air Division at the Chkalovsky (Moscow region) aerodrome, two in the 33rd separate transport mixed aviation regiment of the 6th Air Force and Air Defense Army of the Western Military District (Levashovo, Leningrad Region) and two - in the 30th separate transport mixed aviation regiment of the 4th Red Banner Army of the Air Force and Air Defense of the Southern Military District (Rostov-on- Don).
According to the Russian Ministry of Defense, the last two new An-148-100E aircraft of the 2018 program (boards with serial numbers 44-01 and 44-02) will be delivered to the 390th separate mixed transport aviation regiment of the Central Military District stationed at Koltsovo airfield in Sverdlovsk region. The pilots of the 390th regiment are already undergoing retraining
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3269936.html
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Is there any plans for a Russian replacement of the highly successful An-2??? The aircraft was successful both military and civilian service. I know some upgrades were done and antonov wanted to produce a similar aircraft but with Russian and ukrainian bad relationship no purchase or sale would be made. An-2 still have plenty of life (younger versions) but won't be in service forever
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d_taddei2 wrote:Is there any plans for a Russian replacement of the highly successful An-2??? The aircraft was successful both military and civilian service. I know some upgrades were done and antonov wanted to produce a similar aircraft but with Russian and ukrainian bad relationship no purchase or sale would be made. An-2 still have plenty of life (younger versions) but won't be in service forever
they presented this at MAKS-2017. TVS-2DTS
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George1 wrote:d_taddei2 wrote:Is there any plans for a Russian replacement of the highly successful An-2??? The aircraft was successful both military and civilian service. I know some upgrades were done and antonov wanted to produce a similar aircraft but with Russian and ukrainian bad relationship no purchase or sale would be made. An-2 still have plenty of life (younger versions) but won't be in service forever
they presented this at MAKS-2017. TVS-2DTS
I had heard of plans but didn't see anything but isn't this aircraft for a specific civilian role? Or will it be used as military and other roles? Honeywell engine I would imagine russian military would use something russian built engine
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New sanctions pretty much stop all exports from US to Russia, so I suspect unless they have local production then they will really need a Russian engine...
The An-2 is an amazing plane and this new model seems to be even better... the problem is that they have been showing aircraft to replace the An-2 for 40+ years now and nothing has managed to replace it... normally cost is the issue.
What would really boost civilian sales would be a military contract to subsidise production and to Russianise it with all Russian engine, prop, and avionics...
My understanding is the upgrade was done by a Siberian company, so it should handle the cold weather... which is critical.
I remember reading an article filled with butthurt... it was by a Ukrainian who was upset that the Ukraine didn't make a similar upgrade of their own aircraft to sell on the international market... salty tears...
He wasn't anti Russian, but he wanted better for the Ukraine, which I can understand.
From what I have read it is lighter but able to operate at higher weights over greater ranges with heavier payloads...
I just wish they would adopt a simpler designation... Sib-2 or something.
In a free market, this would sell very well in Alaska and Canada and many nordic countries as well as Russia.
It would probably also sell rather well in the Pacific Islands in a float plane model...
The An-2 is an amazing plane and this new model seems to be even better... the problem is that they have been showing aircraft to replace the An-2 for 40+ years now and nothing has managed to replace it... normally cost is the issue.
What would really boost civilian sales would be a military contract to subsidise production and to Russianise it with all Russian engine, prop, and avionics...
My understanding is the upgrade was done by a Siberian company, so it should handle the cold weather... which is critical.
I remember reading an article filled with butthurt... it was by a Ukrainian who was upset that the Ukraine didn't make a similar upgrade of their own aircraft to sell on the international market... salty tears...
He wasn't anti Russian, but he wanted better for the Ukraine, which I can understand.
From what I have read it is lighter but able to operate at higher weights over greater ranges with heavier payloads...
I just wish they would adopt a simpler designation... Sib-2 or something.
In a free market, this would sell very well in Alaska and Canada and many nordic countries as well as Russia.
It would probably also sell rather well in the Pacific Islands in a float plane model...
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d_taddei2 wrote:I had heard of plans but didn't see anything but isn't this aircraft for a specific civilian role? Or will it be used as military and other roles? Honeywell engine I would imagine russian military would use something russian built engine
The orders of An-2 after 1970 were minimal. The Russian Armed Forces keep like 3 active and 4 reserve aircrafts produced after 1970. The production of An-2 between 1971 and 1991 was almost totally for civilian purposes and export.
Many designs wanted to be the successor of the An-2, but failed both for military and civil purposes. The concept is outdated.