Syrian War: News #19

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/early-reports-of-us-troops-withdrawing-from-manbij-city/

Early reports of US troops withdrawing from Manbij city

By Leith Aboufadel - 2018-12-260

BEIRUT, LEBANON (8:00 P.M.) – The U.S. troops have allegedly begun withdrawing from Manbij after reports of a massive Turkish military buildup at the northern outskirts of the city.

The rumors regarding the U.S. Coalition’s withdrawal from Manbij were first reported by local activists inside the city.

However, these reports remain nothing more than rumors because no photos or videos have been released to corroborate these claims.

Furthermore, the U.S. Coalition has not commented on these rumors about their alleged withdrawal from Manbij.

While the U.S. withdrawal is expected to take place soon, it is not clear whether or not they will be leaving the city this week.

The Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) have already begun talks with the Syrian government about the future of their territories in northern and eastern Syria.

Some early reports from the Manbij countryside indicate that the Syrian government and Syrian Democratic Forces have reached an agreement on the transfer of the city, but nothing official has been released to corroborate these claims.

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#UPDATE: Source telling me heavy fighter activity also over Haifa. IAF warplanes popping flares over Lebanon, reasons unclear, Netanyahu off to Brazil tomorrow, I don’t really expect Israel to strike when he’s going away...?

The art of Observation..
The most interesting things usually are ,those that people don't make questions about it.
because don't notice it..  

So lets see..

Trump fly with melania in Airforce One.. above Britain airspace and then later move towards IRAQ..
there was a major speculation about where Trump will go.. This happened today about 8-12 hours later after Israel attack Syria and Russia accuse of Israel of risking the security of 2 civilians airliners.. Later twiiter shows
that Trump landed on IRAQ  to visit his troops.. to raise the morale of them.. and was with melania..

And now Twitter is Reporting Netanyahu is leaving to Brazil..  
So trump flying to the middle east.. and netanyahu moving AWAY from the middle east.
in a moment like now that expectations are high about a major scalation between Russia and Israel..
over Syria attacks. that Israel will like words of solidarity or even better ,US airforce helping them to bomb
Syria to the stone age. in a side note Porkyshenko in ukraine is ending the martial law..

So the interesting question is..
Why is Trump not making comments in solidarity with israel unprovoked attacks on Syria?
or why Trump bypass Israel and goes instead to IRAQ ? why Netanyahu leaving for a trip to brazil ,
when Trump is so near..    the SIlence of Neyanyahu about Trump leaving Syria is also very telling
also is very telling..  

If trump don't meet with Nutanyahu.. when he could easily do while being near Israel..
This is a clear sign of major disagreements between Netanyahu and Trump over Syria.
Like some will say .. Netanyahu is have to be clearly very upset or even feel betrayed with Trump
for ordering his troops leaving Syria. and did not wanted to talk with him.. and just left To Brazil.

So let me make this clear.. If US leave Syria ,then Netanyahu dreams of a greater israel ,
stealing lands of Syria ,will be officially OVER.  The arrogant even posted on media ,
Israeli army plans in creating a Buffer ZONE in Syria all the way to DAmascus..

Lets take a look and what the Israelis ,where bragging about the future
of Syria.. this was when all southern Syria and eastern Ghouta was controlled by terrorist that NATO And ISRAEL
backed ..  But that Russia and Syria in a brilliant lighting move and raid, took over those zones..away from
US backed terrorist.. and forced them to move to IDLIB..



Look how arrogant the Israelis are.. they not even deny their plans for total partitioning of Syria to steal their lands and brag about this partitioning and land stealing.. There was no way ,the international community will see
this "safe zones" as a defensive thing.. but a clear major violation of international laws..

and to try to stop Russia advances in clearing damascus ,NATO  staged a new chemical fake attack
and then trump order a new major strike on Syria..  The end result according to Sputnik all zones
liberated , chemical factories found in eastern ghouta.. and British special forces captured by Syrian
army in Eastern Ghouta in Damascus..

So by Russia with Syria taking fully damascus under their control ,and taking fully
all southern Syria.. This effectively put an end of Israel "Safe ZONES"  they were bragging
about at least during Trump administration.. but by Trump retreating from Syria ,this put the last nail
in the coffin of Israel ambitions , In other words.. it was a plan to transform Syria into another Palestine.. and repeat their stealing of lands ,meter by meter over a long period.




This is anexation of territory ,step by step.. using as excuse "national security"
they could continue forever ,bombing Syria ,claiming it was to stop a transfer of thermonuclear weapons
or hypersonic missiles from IRAN to hezbolah..  

So Israel do a preventive war.. accusing their victims as the aggressors ,and later any advance
of their military ,they declare legally to own the land ,because Syria attacked them ,when they invaded.
Israel could have been playing this games until ISrael reach the euphrates river all the way to the north of Syria. So if they advance so much ,why stop in Syria? They will move to Lebanon and take it too..
as they did to palestinians. and later Israel use the kurds.. as to fight Turkey..and break Turkey in parts too in same way they did with Syria ,using proxies.. arming kurds ,totally split Turkey with a Syrian like war.. until Israel reach Istanbul by helping Kurds over run Turkey.. and connects Israel with Europe through Bosphurus straight.. When you don't stop bullies .like Israelis are..  it will never be good enough for them.. any territory they steal..and will seek more.. This is what Hitler did. once they took Poland why stop there? and keep advancing until there is no more land to steal.

So Russia in combination with Trump retreat from Syria ,effectively destroyed Israel plans for a New Israel stealing
all Syria territories.. and Netanyahu have to be very upset ,if not very angry with Trump decision to leave Syria.
They jews should not feel bad,, they got a new capital in Jerusalem as alternative to their middle east
project..  

So if Trump and Netanyahu do not meet in person , it will be a very strong sign ,that
Trump order to leave Syria was very real and he is mad about it.. and this attack
on Syria so close to Trump new Syrian policy , the goal of attacking Syria was to try to tie the hands
of Trump and reverse his decision. by forcing US to do stay in Syria..in defense of Israel..
israelis will be capable of a false flag,, with an airliner over Israel shutdown with civilians and blamed on Damascus..to force Trump into reverse his policies on leaving Syria in defense of Israel. .

wow.. people need to see this..
It looks like the Donald Trump the one ,that people voted for him.. is back..  
This is a complete reverse of US Pentagon policy in Syria..  
Netanyahu have to be furious about Trump leaving Syria..  

Watch the next video.. and is crazy to see trump ,
So convinced and in determination to leave Syria..
This have to be for real.. unless is a major STUNT ,show or Circus..
Faking the leaving ,and then a false flag.. and then later he saying ,
he tried to do it folks.. but not worked and then  restarting the war against Syria.



the face of his generals and bolton is priceless.. they look speechless
and without words.. and humiliated.

But if this is real ,the trump is doing what is called , taking a bull by its horns.
and facing the 5th column generals seeking to stay in Syria, and did it personally.  

If this is real ..and troops leave ,he will have a clear victory in the next elections..

Now the thing here is ,that needs to be avoided is a new major war between Turkey and syria..
or Israel vs Syria.vs Russia.. for capturing the zones American troops abandon ,if major war start ,the opposition of Trump will use it , to blamed it on Trump leaving.. So Russia will have to do a major dance between diplomacy with turkey and Israel ,to avoid a major war from starting ,while at the same time be ready to use military force ,if there is a need of it. to defend themselves and Syria..

This looks like the turning point of the Syrian war and the most complicate part for Russia ,because could face a major military challenge in two opposite fronts.. one vs Turkey and another vs Israel.

update.. now is almost official. .Trump and Netanyahu did not see each other in middle east... Netanyahu was in Brasil and now Pompeyo was sent to try to apologise with the crazy man , for Trump leaving Syria..
When Trump was asked about what will be Israel opinions.. about him leaving Syria.. Trump response
was more in the like of Trump Complaining of Israel abusing of US generosity (without saying this in this words) and began to explain how many billions he gave Israel.. and that Israel can take care of itself.. So it was the first
time i saw Trump..not praising Israel friendship..  and the silence of Netanyahu about Trump leaving Syria.. speak volumes too.. basically the crazy Nut.. is mad at Trump for leaving Syria and this is very likely the reason why he attacked Syria ..to sabotage Trump retreat.

In more news.. Things could change dramatically in Syria for the worse , with major disagreement between
Russia and Turkey.. it was reported of a turkish delegation in Moscow today ,to ask permission to fly over Syria to bomb kurds.. Lavrov officially told in public,that Turkey need to stay away of Syria.. and that Syrian territories should be respected and that Syrian army will be in control of Kurds zones.. so there is  a major conflict right now between Russia and Turkey over who controls the zones Americans leave in Syria. So things can get very dangerous ,because Syria army will not allow Turkey to fly over its airspace..If a major fight happens between Turkey and Syria , Israel could try to take advantage of this.. and open a new front line.. in the south.

Isos wrote:
SR
@Syrian_SR
No fly zone issued by #SAA over north/north east #Syria starting mid night.

The first step.

There are major delegations from Turkey in Moscow currently, including Erdogan. It looks as if the Turks do not want to do anything that might cause a repeat of their military killing Russians. It looks to be by co-incidence but there is also a Kurdish delegation in Moscow as well. This is where the future of Syria is being decided. We have a pretty clear idea what the Russians want, it will be interesting for the future of the region just how influential they actually are.

Depending on those discussions will be what happens in Manbij. It is highly unlikely that anything will happen until those talks have concluded. All forces are either now in, or getting into, position ready to obey the commands from on high.

If nothing else the Turkish Army’s moves seem to have forced the SDF/Kurds to accept, based on their Afrin experience, that a pact with the Syrian Government was the safest route forward.

The latest word from the area seems to indicate that rather than the immediate disbanding and absorbance into the SAA that the SDF will be allowed to continue until the fighting is over. Bit like not repeating the US mistake in Iraq when they disbanded the Army there.

There looks to be a discussion underway as to whether the SDF will be allowed to keep all the US ‘gear’ they now have, Mind you I’m not sure how the US could take it back. Also some of it is dependent on US maintenance and parts so it may have a short life anyway.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-usa-exclusive-idUSKCN1OR1OD?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5c26bc9b04d3011887811a8e&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter


No announcement yet of a no fly zone but many photos of US helicopters over Manbij. So perhaps something for the future.

An large amount of US 'stuff' out there to be pulled out via Iraq or even Turkey.

IWN
‏ @A7_Mirza
23h23 hours ago

There is two or three major #US bases. On north of #Manbij, another in Ayn Dadat and one in Oshariyah near Euphrates; and of course inside the city of Manbij.
US and French forces did not retreated from this area yet.

Looks like Russia got its way and many lives have been saved. If correct huge diplomatic coup for Russia. Next stop Afghanistan?

Elijah J. Magnier @ejmalrai 17m17 minutes ago

The highest level officials meeting in #Moscow regarding #Manbij is concluded. It seems #Kurds are saved (and will be disarmed where the #SAA will be present). #Turkey values its relationship and gains from #Russia #Iran more than the promises given by #USA.

Looks seriously as if peace is heading eastern Syria's way

Russia and Turkey on Saturday agreed to coordinate ground operations in Syria after last week's shock announcement of a US military withdrawal, Moscow's top diplomat said. "Of course we paid special attention to new circumstances which appeared in connection with the announced US military pullout," Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said after talks with Turkish counterpart Mevlut Cavusoglu in Moscow.

"An understanding was reached of how military representatives of Russia and Turkey will continue to coordinate their steps on the ground under new conditions with a view to finally rooting out terrorist threats in Syria," Lavrov said.

Cavusoglu confirmed the two countries would coordinate Syria operations, adding they also discussed plans to help refugees to return home.

https://www.france24.com/en/20181229...thdrawal-syria



The wording of this should make you smile!


U.S. Dept of Defense‏Verified account @DeptofDefense

The next phase of US support to the #Coalition's operation in #Syria is a deliberate, well thought-out, mutually supportive, and controlled withdrawal of forces while taking all measures possible to ensure our troops' safety and protection. #DefeatISIS

The very fact that SehSha had small bases set up in the middle of nowhere shows how deeply linked they were with IGIL. If it had been a real 'war' against 'terror', those little bases with garrisons would have been picked off like ripe cherries on a tree. They weren't, so US/IGIL coalition is obviously fact.

JohninMK wrote:Looks like Russia got its way and many lives have been saved. If correct huge diplomatic coup for Russia. Next stop Afghanistan?

Elijah J. Magnier @ejmalrai 17m17 minutes ago

The highest level officials meeting in #Moscow regarding #Manbij is concluded. It seems #Kurds are saved (and will be disarmed where the #SAA will be present). #Turkey values its relationship and gains from #Russia #Iran more than the promises given by #USA.

Pro-US and specially pro-Israel people begin to wish peace, but peace only will be assured with the exit of the contries ilegally invading Syria.

Pro-US and pro-Israel failed in the analysis of in which side have been the Kurds, and failed in their bids to provoke war between the Kurds and Syria-Iraq-Iran.

The US provided weapons to the Kurds, like to Iraq and had military presence in the land controled by the Kurds, like in Iraq.

The current situation is not about the Kurds being forced to deal with Syria because of the presure of the Turks. The current situation is about the Turks being forced to stay out of Syria and to exit of Syria because if not the Kurds will be properly armed.

Looks like the Americans are leaving for Iraq starting with the easier close to the border sites.


Turkish media says the US Army troops have abandoned a base in north-eastern Syria, in the first reported case of the Donald Trump-announced general pullout going ahead.

Some 50 US soldiers left in Hummer armored vehicles and military trucks, leaving behind an empty 400-square-meter warehouse in the Al-Hasakah Governorate, the Anadolu news agency said Saturday.

The troops went to the neighboring Iraq, the report said, adding that previously the warehouse was used for supplying weapons and equipment to Kurdish YPG militias.


https://www.rt.com/news/447678-us-withdrawal-syria-begins/

The'Nimr'Tiger
‏ @Souria4Syrians
37m37 minutes ago

YPG/SDF making large gains in Euphrates valley against ISIS. Could you imagine If they managed to kill or capture Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi!




Then, much further north up the river


Within Syria
‏ @WithinSyriaBlog
27m27 minutes ago

Syrian al-Watan newspaper is reporting that the SAA was deployed in the SDF-held Tishreen dam on the Euphrates River. The strategic dam is located east of Manbi. SDF will supposedly release a statement on the issue within hours.

OK guys, who are Jaysh al-Thuwar and what is this all about? It looks like a US puff article but is it?

In the first video with the stills after it is that a thermobaric warhead blast?

In the embedded tank attack video does it look like a tank hit by an ATGM or something like a fuel tanker.

https://quodverum.com/2018/12/360/who-called-it-.html

This is a tweet from the local Washington Post rep

Liz Sly
‏Verified account @LizSly
1h1 hour ago

Iraq wants to play a more assertive role in fighting ISIS in Syria now that the US is leaving. Iraqi PM Adel Abdul-Mehdi sent a letter and a delegation to Assad to this effect

Who links to this


BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraq’s prime minister said on Sunday that top security officials from Baghdad had met Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in Damascus, and hinted at a bigger Iraqi role fighting Islamic State militants as U.S. troops withdraw from Syria.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-iraq-syria/iraq-hints-at-bigger-role-in-syria-after-u-s-withdrawal-idUSKCN1OT0K5

Turks are pulling forces away from Manbij.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:Turks are pulling forces away from Manbij.

Thanks, they served their purpose. Good job done.

To calm down a little Syrian army supporters..
The worse thing US can do for the continuation of their mission in Syria,
is sabotage their own proxy war against Syria by antogonizing the kurds
and telling them.. their support will expire in 100 days.. So by just saying
things like this in words.. This will make Kurds question their loyalty to Americans..
and the need to switch to the Syrian army side if they don't want to lose All the territory
they have. Because as all of you know.. those "professional fighters " the Kurds ,
will have zero chance vs Turkey army.. they lost already a big zone near latakia and turkey border
when TUrkey invaded..and Kurds were unable to hold Turkey army. And Kurds alone have zero chance
to hold any part in Syria. Vs Turkey or Vs Syrian army.. or versus ISIS.. they need air power support
and logistics and supply to continue any military operation.

All things said.. the wheels are in motion for US leaving Syria.. the question now is..
If Israel ,the CIA and the Unhappy generals at Pentagon ,will manage to sabotage Trump
decision. ? any civilian airliner malasyan like scenario in ukraine(False flag) shoot down by them but blamed on
Assad could trigger another US cruise missile attack and the reverse of the pull out of US forces..

Vann7 wrote:
All things said.. the wheels are in motion for US leaving Syria.. the question now is..
If Israel ,the CIA and the Unhappy generals at Pentagon ,will manage to sabotage Trump
decision. ?

They would leave anyway, dead or alive. They had no other choice since they lost the war. The BS propaganda that this was Trump's unilateral agenda is just an effort to cover their defeat, which came out of inferior hardware, very outdated war doctrine, very weak command and control, confusing strategy and inability to provide a meaningful ground force.

JohninMK wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:Turks are pulling forces away from Manbij.

Thanks, they served their purpose. Good job done.

Well do keep in mind they can easily go back, like I always say do not consider a deal finished until it's actually completed.

People lie, people can change their minds.

Isos wrote:They have to leave. First because if they don't it would mean Trump is not the big boss of the army so not democratic, not going to happen. And second Kurds are done with the US. They are beging SAA and Putin to save them. They will never trust US again or let them come in kurd zones as they basically sold them to Turkey for a couple of Patriot systems.

A possible scenario could be that russians and SAA let turks attack them to make them weak so that Assad could controle them easier in the future. Hope for them it's not the case but remember they were neither allies neither enemies during the war but wanted their own kurdistan while they got stronger and armed by west so they are a big threat to Assad. I doubt he wants them like that in Syria so I wouldn't be surprised of such an agreement between turks and Syrians.

That's how come US forces are still 100 percent present in all major areas?.

But the kurds won't let us in eh? Look so far nothing has changed on the ground and until it does do not talk like things are finished.

Has for the begging where are you getting that? from some twitter feeds, I have seen ditto from the kurds to make a statement like that true. no official statement or nothing has come from them.

Again I repeat these words take what you hear from Russia, US, Turks etc with a grain of salt.

Just because you want to believe something doesn't make it true.

Wait until you see actual proof, not words, because words are worth shit in these kinda matters.