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US Domestic Politics and internal affairs
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Wow, turbo-idiocracy is here
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HiIlarious... the people not banned on Twitter under the previous regime thinks Elon Musk is going to do to them what they were doing to their political opponents... they thought it was a democrat channel but Musk is going to make it a republican channel... because you are either us or them... except Musk isn't a republican as pointed out in that video, he is a liberal.... AND IS WHAT THE DEMOCRATS SHOULD BE.
Taken at face value if you didn't put labels and you said one political party in the US was banning the other party from speaking by banning them from social media and then an independent rich guy came in and just bought that social media company so they could stop the censorship and make it so no one got banned for what they thought... most people around the world would have bet money that the evil censorship party was the Republicans and it was a democrat that saved free speech and democracy.
Ironically only half right because the democrats in the US are war loving censor monkeys who ban and sanction the intolerant... ignoring that they are the most intolerant of all for anyone who thinks differently from them.
Of course most democrats would make good republicans because the two groups have merged to the point that they both love war and encourage conflict because they benefit from it.
Taken at face value if you didn't put labels and you said one political party in the US was banning the other party from speaking by banning them from social media and then an independent rich guy came in and just bought that social media company so they could stop the censorship and make it so no one got banned for what they thought... most people around the world would have bet money that the evil censorship party was the Republicans and it was a democrat that saved free speech and democracy.
Ironically only half right because the democrats in the US are war loving censor monkeys who ban and sanction the intolerant... ignoring that they are the most intolerant of all for anyone who thinks differently from them.
Of course most democrats would make good republicans because the two groups have merged to the point that they both love war and encourage conflict because they benefit from it.
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Biden's support for Lula makes me question his credentials as a leftist. We will see if he is a neo-liberal whore.
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Western support for Lula is an opportunistic stance because they're well informed of the close proximity of ambiguous globalist Celso Amorim inside the elected President's staff. Amorim's wet dream is to be named presidential adviser on foreign affairs in the future government, as a somewhat successor to Marco Aurélio Garcia, an influential assistant to former Lula's and Rousseff's presidency until his death.kvs wrote:Biden's support for Lula makes me question his credentials as a leftist. We will see if he is a neo-liberal whore.
Amorim's main work as Brazil's MFA during the 2000s & 2010s was to implement a so-called South-South diplomatic strategy plagued with corruption on other Latin American and African countries with the help of infamous Brazilian engineering contractors: the ill-fated Odebrecht, OAS, Andrade-Gutierrez and others.
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The US is coming out of the closet as a one party state. It was one before no matter what Tucker says. The US has been an
oligarchy since the beginning. But this oligarchy was smart in the way it set up a facade of democracy.
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The results of the first exit polls in the US elections became known, 11.08.2022, by Elizaveta Shishkova for VZGLYAD. 11.08.2022.
According to the results of the first exit polls in the US elections, the Republicans have a significant majority, the results are published on the InteractivePolls page on Twitter (blocked in Russia).
In the Senate, Republicans get 54 seats, Democrats - 46. In the House of Representatives - 246 from Republicans against 189 from Democrats, Moskovsky Komsomolets reports .
At the same time, the states of Arizona, Nevada and Georgia are now “under the control” of the Republicans. New Hampshire has a similar potential. New York, Colorado, California and a number of other states remain on the side of the Democrats.
November 8 in the United States is the main voting day for the midterm elections, which will elect 435 members of the House of Representatives and 35 of the 100 senators and heads of several states.
Meanwhile, the leader of the Republican minority in the House of Representatives of the US Congress, Kevin McCarthy, said that the Republicans, if they win the elections to the US Congress, do not exclude the possibility of impeaching President Joe Biden.
https://vz.ru/news/2022/11/8/1185880.html
According to the results of the first exit polls in the US elections, the Republicans have a significant majority, the results are published on the InteractivePolls page on Twitter (blocked in Russia).
In the Senate, Republicans get 54 seats, Democrats - 46. In the House of Representatives - 246 from Republicans against 189 from Democrats, Moskovsky Komsomolets reports .
At the same time, the states of Arizona, Nevada and Georgia are now “under the control” of the Republicans. New Hampshire has a similar potential. New York, Colorado, California and a number of other states remain on the side of the Democrats.
November 8 in the United States is the main voting day for the midterm elections, which will elect 435 members of the House of Representatives and 35 of the 100 senators and heads of several states.
Meanwhile, the leader of the Republican minority in the House of Representatives of the US Congress, Kevin McCarthy, said that the Republicans, if they win the elections to the US Congress, do not exclude the possibility of impeaching President Joe Biden.
https://vz.ru/news/2022/11/8/1185880.html
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impeaching President Joe Biden.
The democrats have made it part of the game now so they can reap what they sow.
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Some midterm updates.
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Midterms Post-Mortem: Comprehending GOP's Underwhelming Performance, by Tyler Durden for ZeroHedge. 11.09.2022.
There was supposed to be a red wave that would put the corrupt, entitled, arrogant Democrats in their place. The GOP was supposed to take the House by an emphatic margin and possibly the Senate, too.
They said it was not a question of if, but when it would happen.
As someone on Twitter rightly observed, at this point, the GOP would be lucky to have Red Trickle. Even if the GOP takes the House, it will be by a slim margin.
Joe Biden, despite his catastrophic misgovernance, historic unpopularity, and rapidly declining cognitive abilities, could end up with a better mid-term record than Democrat stars such as Barack Obama and Bill Clinton.
There have been various theories on why it went so wrong.
Post-mortem analyses are always easy; you have the results, all you have to do is walk backward and provide reasons. Had the GOP won in a landslide, the very pundits who are certain why they underperformed tonight would have provided another set of reasons.
Let's examine some theories that are being put forth.
Did the narrative of the Red Wave seem like hubris?
At times rosy expectations can be the mother of all disappointments. The relentless talk of a red wave, which began in conservative media and spread like wildfire, could have had multiple consequences.
Perhaps GOP voters presumed a victory was inevitable and chose to stay home. Perhaps Democrat voters thinking that their party needs them in times of peril chose to vote.
Perhaps some voters thought of this talk of the red wave as hubris.
Voters often do not like politicians taking them for granted and second-guessing them.
Perhaps they decided to give the GOP a reality check?
The overturning of Roe v Wade?
It will never be easy to gauge what impact the overturning of Roe had on the mind of the public, especially women.
Dr. Oz said “I don’t want the federal government involved with that at all. I want women, doctors, local political leaders, letting the democracy that’s always allowed our nation to thrive to put the best ideas forward so states can decide for themselves.”
Oz was making a broader point about law-making by consulting all parties involved. Most of the mainstream media claimed Dr. Oz thinks that the decision to have an abortion must be between a woman, her doctor, and local politicians.
Perhaps women truly feared that the Republicans would be involved each time they visited the gynecologist. Perhaps women feared imprisonment for even mentioning abortion. Perhaps they believed the claim that contraception would also be restricted.
Fear tactics often work, irrespective of whether the claims are factual.
Perhaps the Democrats managed to scare people sufficiently.
Was it the media?
The mainstream media is the propaganda arm of the Democrats, while most Republicans get their news from Fox News, Breitbart, The Daily Caller, NewsMax, and various other right-leaning websites.
But what about independents? Perhaps they brought the media narrative that if the GOP wins there will never ever be elections in the US and Trump would become a dictator.
End of the Trump era?
Some experts claimed that Trump’s choice of candidates was a major reason for the GOP’s subpar performance. They cite the loss of Dr. Oz to severely cognitively impaired John Fetterman to demonstrate their point. They feel Trump incorrectly endorsed celebrity Doctor Oz; perhaps a principled conservative and a Pennsylvania local would have served better. They claim that the underperforming of the GOP is proof that Trump's era has passed. They claim he should gracefully step aside and allow Ron DeSantis to be the nominee in 2024. They claim Trump lacks discipline, has too much baggage, and polarizes people with his rhetoric.
What about funding?
It has to be remembered that no candidate can win without a minimum amount of funding. A MAGA victory is as troubling to establishment GOP leaders as it is for Democrats.
It has been documented that for various Senate races, the GOP leadership in Washington, i.e., Mitch McConnell, were not supporting MAGA candidates financially. Perhaps that played a factor in impeding the candidates from pushing their message and the overall narrative.
Did Biden’s meddling help?
Biden signed Executive Order 14019 back in March asking all 600 federal agencies to "consider ways to expand citizens' opportunities to register to vote and to obtain information about, and participate in, the electoral process."
The details of what was actually done remain unclear. Perhaps Democrat voters were surgically mobilized? Perhaps voter identification rules were relaxed?
We will never know because Biden refused to share details about its coordinated efforts to engage in a federal takeover of the administration of elections.
This concealment makes it very suspicious.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/midterms-post-mortem-comprehending-gops-underwhelming-performance
There was supposed to be a red wave that would put the corrupt, entitled, arrogant Democrats in their place. The GOP was supposed to take the House by an emphatic margin and possibly the Senate, too.
They said it was not a question of if, but when it would happen.
As someone on Twitter rightly observed, at this point, the GOP would be lucky to have Red Trickle. Even if the GOP takes the House, it will be by a slim margin.
Joe Biden, despite his catastrophic misgovernance, historic unpopularity, and rapidly declining cognitive abilities, could end up with a better mid-term record than Democrat stars such as Barack Obama and Bill Clinton.
There have been various theories on why it went so wrong.
Post-mortem analyses are always easy; you have the results, all you have to do is walk backward and provide reasons. Had the GOP won in a landslide, the very pundits who are certain why they underperformed tonight would have provided another set of reasons.
Let's examine some theories that are being put forth.
Did the narrative of the Red Wave seem like hubris?
At times rosy expectations can be the mother of all disappointments. The relentless talk of a red wave, which began in conservative media and spread like wildfire, could have had multiple consequences.
Perhaps GOP voters presumed a victory was inevitable and chose to stay home. Perhaps Democrat voters thinking that their party needs them in times of peril chose to vote.
Perhaps some voters thought of this talk of the red wave as hubris.
Voters often do not like politicians taking them for granted and second-guessing them.
Perhaps they decided to give the GOP a reality check?
The overturning of Roe v Wade?
It will never be easy to gauge what impact the overturning of Roe had on the mind of the public, especially women.
Dr. Oz said “I don’t want the federal government involved with that at all. I want women, doctors, local political leaders, letting the democracy that’s always allowed our nation to thrive to put the best ideas forward so states can decide for themselves.”
Oz was making a broader point about law-making by consulting all parties involved. Most of the mainstream media claimed Dr. Oz thinks that the decision to have an abortion must be between a woman, her doctor, and local politicians.
Perhaps women truly feared that the Republicans would be involved each time they visited the gynecologist. Perhaps women feared imprisonment for even mentioning abortion. Perhaps they believed the claim that contraception would also be restricted.
Fear tactics often work, irrespective of whether the claims are factual.
Perhaps the Democrats managed to scare people sufficiently.
Was it the media?
The mainstream media is the propaganda arm of the Democrats, while most Republicans get their news from Fox News, Breitbart, The Daily Caller, NewsMax, and various other right-leaning websites.
But what about independents? Perhaps they brought the media narrative that if the GOP wins there will never ever be elections in the US and Trump would become a dictator.
End of the Trump era?
Some experts claimed that Trump’s choice of candidates was a major reason for the GOP’s subpar performance. They cite the loss of Dr. Oz to severely cognitively impaired John Fetterman to demonstrate their point. They feel Trump incorrectly endorsed celebrity Doctor Oz; perhaps a principled conservative and a Pennsylvania local would have served better. They claim that the underperforming of the GOP is proof that Trump's era has passed. They claim he should gracefully step aside and allow Ron DeSantis to be the nominee in 2024. They claim Trump lacks discipline, has too much baggage, and polarizes people with his rhetoric.
What about funding?
It has to be remembered that no candidate can win without a minimum amount of funding. A MAGA victory is as troubling to establishment GOP leaders as it is for Democrats.
It has been documented that for various Senate races, the GOP leadership in Washington, i.e., Mitch McConnell, were not supporting MAGA candidates financially. Perhaps that played a factor in impeding the candidates from pushing their message and the overall narrative.
Did Biden’s meddling help?
Biden signed Executive Order 14019 back in March asking all 600 federal agencies to "consider ways to expand citizens' opportunities to register to vote and to obtain information about, and participate in, the electoral process."
The details of what was actually done remain unclear. Perhaps Democrat voters were surgically mobilized? Perhaps voter identification rules were relaxed?
We will never know because Biden refused to share details about its coordinated efforts to engage in a federal takeover of the administration of elections.
This concealment makes it very suspicious.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/midterms-post-mortem-comprehending-gops-underwhelming-performance
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Cameras Go Dark At Vote Counting Facility In Key Nevada County
Cameras at the vote counting facility in a Nevada county still counting midterm election votes stopped broadcasting overnight, officials said on Nov. 10.
The livestream computer application that provides the feeds “lost connection with” the cameras at 11:24 p.m. on Wednesday, according to Bethany Drysdale, a spokesperson for Washoe County.
All staff members left for the night about an hour before the issue and none returned until 7 a.m. on Thursday morning, county officials said.
The connection was restored just before 8 a.m. on Nov. 10.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/cameras-go-dark-vote-counting-facility-key-nevada-county
America is just a lost cause at this point.
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I don't get these people.
This is an absolute clearcut fortified election shinanigan situation.
Yet there are still so many goddamn retards out there going on about how republicans just dont get "voting blocks", and i am like WTF?
You are well past any "voting blocks" even mattering at this point, these people are pretty much either retarded or just going thruw their 5 stages of grief.
What i find interesting is how both sides right now are desperatly trying to obvuscate and/or deny these obviously fortified results.
Blaming everything from the youth vote, (which never mattered before, but is suddenly a thing now), Mc Connels Alaska BS, to "its MAGA's fault" for the turnout.
Everyone is tryng to aviod the obvious fortification, even some of the MAGA people.
Becuase no one wants to actually fight the war that will be necesary to free the country.
The Left doesn't wanna fight becuase they believe they might lose, power is everything to them.
But the the biggest problem is, is that the Right will also not fight, becuase they haven't felt enough pain yet, and are still clinging desperatly to the ,"voting is gonna save us" delusion.
Which has now been proven as a delusion.
It's truly sad to watch liberty die like this.
This is an absolute clearcut fortified election shinanigan situation.
Yet there are still so many goddamn retards out there going on about how republicans just dont get "voting blocks", and i am like WTF?
You are well past any "voting blocks" even mattering at this point, these people are pretty much either retarded or just going thruw their 5 stages of grief.
What i find interesting is how both sides right now are desperatly trying to obvuscate and/or deny these obviously fortified results.
Blaming everything from the youth vote, (which never mattered before, but is suddenly a thing now), Mc Connels Alaska BS, to "its MAGA's fault" for the turnout.
Everyone is tryng to aviod the obvious fortification, even some of the MAGA people.
Becuase no one wants to actually fight the war that will be necesary to free the country.
The Left doesn't wanna fight becuase they believe they might lose, power is everything to them.
But the the biggest problem is, is that the Right will also not fight, becuase they haven't felt enough pain yet, and are still clinging desperatly to the ,"voting is gonna save us" delusion.
Which has now been proven as a delusion.
It's truly sad to watch liberty die like this.
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It's truly sad to watch liberty die like this.
But that is the point... they have a two party system that has never been about actual democracy... even under communism they would have more than two factions vying for power and control...
This election was more about abortions than republican or democrat... the core problem is that someone who is smart like Putin would have to also be ruthless to be rich enough to run for President in the US, and couldn't be a white guy to rise to the job because white guys get passed over by any other ethnic group or gender in the west... Karmala Harris is a moron... but then so was George Bush jnr... it seems the US deep state thinks the dumb ones are easier to control when they get into office.
Little changes over time have let corruption seep into everything... from the foreign students and student loan racket in education to the open skimming of the MIC to shifting most production overseas to places where the labour is cheaper and the safety rules are cheaper to comply with... because a small bribe to the inspector is cheaper than the cost of compliance.
People don't matter, which is the core problem of the west... the cry was that if we don't give them tax breaks or special rules then they will take their companies away and we lose jobs... but they did that anyway.
Big companies have no morals, just money... and that is the core of their problem and why they should never be allowed to get too big and should be broken up.
Trying to do so would be political suicide though so no one tries... and certainly no one could succeed.
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The politicians are puppet theater. The real decision makers are not in the limelight. People have a real hard time with accepting
this reality. They are easily befuddled by the tag "conspiracy theory". Of course it is a damned conspiracy you stupid f*cks. That
is the whole freaking point.
this reality. They are easily befuddled by the tag "conspiracy theory". Of course it is a damned conspiracy you stupid f*cks. That
is the whole freaking point.
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Timmy is trying to fence sit as usual.
These "elections" are a total F'ing joke.
These "elections" are a total F'ing joke.
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This is so damn funny.
The hell did he expect would happen when you marry a goddamn Kardashian.
The hell did he expect would happen when you marry a goddamn Kardashian.
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https://t.me/Slavyangrad/25299?fbclid=IwAR2u65OFUAIztpUoQPAsdIoIupXyeSFNHVkeQ-h6_gGRJq-Mwmdf_-i4NGo
With this idea being pushed relentlessly by various us politicians, perhaps by the end of this decade, we will witness pedophilia getting legalized in the "civilized" west
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This is interesting because it may unravel lots of dirt of yanqui intelligence:
Musk Asks Schiff If He Approved 'State Censorship'; Advocates Modern 'Church Commission' To Investigate FBI Corruption, by Tyler Durden for ZeroHedge. 12.20.2022.
In the wake of the most recent 'Twitter Files' release - which showed that the FBI infiltrated the social media giant, then primed its 'Trust & Safety' head to interpret things like the Hunter Biden release as foreign influence - CEO Elon Musk asked Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) whether he approved 'hidden state censorship in direct violation of the Constitution."
Some have speculated that the speed at which Twitter reacted to the NY Post's Hunter Biden bombshell was the result of a "powerful Dem" reaching out to the FBI's operative, Elvis Chan.
Musk also advocated for a modern-day Church Commission, responding to a suggestion promoted by investor David Sacks.
Of note, thought leaders such as Eric Weinstein have been calling for a new Church Commission for years to unravel revelations that the FBI participated in the Russiagate hoax against candidate - and then sitting President, Donald Trump.
Meanwhile, in response to the Twitter Files revelation that the FBI was deeply embedded at Twitter, Rep. Jim Jordan said: "I have concerns about whether the government was running a misinformation operation on We the People."
Perhaps Jordan will get behind the new Church Commission idea?
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/musk-asks-schiff-if-he-approved-state-censorship-advocates-modern-church-commission
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