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    Post  GarryB Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:42 am

    Nobody had any idea of what Twitter or Facebook or the others would become when they were created... most were tree hugging idealists who wanted free and open communication between people... but secret government agencies can't ignore their access to peoples lives around the world...

    It is like telling a kiddy fiddler they can't be a priest or a school teacher or scout leader...

    Any alternative can claim it is against what Twitter and FB and other big tech has become, but they will be infiltrated and changed no matter what... and if they can't be infiltrated and used by the US government then they will be banned and crushed... or simply bought by another company that is happy to comply?

    Honestly, if you had a multi billion dollar company and the US government said it is a requirement to operate in the west to hand over all data on your customers when requested or we will ban you from trading in the US... you don't get to the multi billion level by saying no to such people.

    We will see pretty soon what sort of guy this guy is... when western media starts calling him a friend and partner of Putin and part of Russian propaganda to destroy the west you will know he is not doing as he is being told by the west...

    Huawei went through the same thing and when they said no the west turned on them.
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    Post  GarryB Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:46 am

    Note I have merged the posts of another thread with this one... unfortunately they mesh together based on the date each message was posted so the old thread will be fragmented through this thread so it might be difficult to trace it, but those interested in this thread that have not read the other thread should go back a few pages and just skim through as there are new posts they might not have seen.
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    Post  kvs Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:48 am

    I would not trust anyone with so much investment in the west. Even Yandex is acting like Google.

    All of these "tech" and "social media" outfits smell no matter where they are.



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    Post  elconquistador Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:52 am

    Antifa/BLM militant John Sullivan has been arrested for his involvement at the Capitol riots. He was followed by a CNN camera team into the Capitol and was heard inviting others to perpetrate violence

    He was previously apprehended (and released within days) when he pointed a gun at a car during a BLM riot in Utah

    Fun fact: he's the adoptive son of retired Air Force General Kevin J Sullivan

    https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1349867391405223937/photo/1?

    https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1349577049053278208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1349577049053278208%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

    ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1349867391405223937%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=


    ... Aaand he's been released

    https://mobile.twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1350259775364333569?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1350259775364333569%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=2020 US elections. What's the status of pindostan and their 2nd civil war? - Page 22 Erukye10

    If people still needed proof that there were Fed plants in the crowd inciting others..

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    Post  elconquistador Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:11 am

    GarryB wrote:Nobody had any idea of what Twitter or Facebook or the others would become when they were created... most were tree hugging idealists who wanted free and open communication between people... but secret government agencies can't ignore their access to peoples lives around the world...

    It is like telling a kiddy fiddler they can't be a priest or a school teacher or scout leader...

    Any alternative can claim it is against what Twitter and FB and other big tech has become, but they will be infiltrated and changed no matter what... and if they can't be infiltrated and used by the US government then they will be banned and crushed... or simply bought by another company that is happy to comply?

    Honestly, if you had a multi billion dollar company and the US government said it is a requirement to operate in the west to hand over all data on your customers when requested or we will ban you from trading in the US... you don't get to the multi billion level by saying no to such people.

    We will see pretty soon what sort of guy this guy is... when western media starts calling him a friend and partner of Putin and part of Russian propaganda to destroy the west you will know he is not doing as he is being told by the west...

    Huawei went through the same thing and when they said no the west turned on them.

    I believe the Facebook-concept came from the Lifelog Project, and was founded by DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency)

    I'd hoped for Putin to reign people like him in. Like how Xi recently reigned Jack Ma in (who is now under house arrest). Jack Ma had started lobbying for liberalisation of the domestic markets so that he could gain more influence. Xi has now put a leash on him and sent him to the naughty boy corner

    I hope Putin would do the same at some point in the not so distant future.

    Another possible competitor is Gab. You know they are the good guys cause their founder and CEO Andrew Torba has been harassed, sabotaged and intimidated to the point where you'd think the US is already a Congo-tier nation. The man can't even open an bank account, nor can his family members. So much for the 'If YoU doN't LiKee TwitTeR JuSt sTaRt YoUr OwN TwaTTerrrRRRr' argument

    They have voiced the idea to also start developing their own Gab-phones

    They own their own servers so they can't be shut down by Big Tech. I do suspect though that in case of a Biden Administration they will simply be outlawed on grounds of 'anti-semitism', 'White supremacism' and racism, sexism and blablabla
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    Post  kvs Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:52 am

    They are basically using this BS line of "reasoning" to engage in censorship. So shutting down any alternative platforms trivially
    follows. Clearly the current definition of free speech is PC speech. Aka newthink and newspeak.

    All of the do-gooder laws creating legal infrastructure to control speech were the fail that resulted in the current brave new world.
    These do-gooder laws were and are useless since they never addressed any actual problem. I am sufficiently aware of the post
    WWII (and before) history of the USA and Canada to say that there was no need for any hate speech laws. If anything the
    love for the Nazis in the west during the 1930s would have justified some controls but they weren't there when needed. Hate
    speech laws to suppress fringe elements are gross overkill.

    In Canada we had a whole load of hysteria over Ernst Zundel and other antisemitic individuals. But these people were never
    going to take over the public mindspace and were basically given free publicity by all the do-gooders from the government
    to the fake stream media. If you step back you see a pattern of a system not wanting to tolerate even a handful of individuals
    with non-PC opinions. That is pretty much the definition of totalitarianism.

    First they came for the tiny fringe of non-conformists, then they came for the mainstream opposition and soon they will come
    for you.



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    Post  kvs Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:34 am



    Nice rant about Twatter.

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    Post  elconquistador Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:02 am

    kvs wrote:

    Nice rant about Twatter.


    James O'Keefe from Project Verítas will soon publish all the leaked audio files wherein Dorsey states that all wrongthink will in the very near future be banned from Twatter - and of course that also includes Faceberg, YouTube and every other social media platform that counts.

    So if you have an opinion to the right of 'there are 86 genders, trannies need to be at kindergartens to spread tolerant lifestyles and tranny-awareness and gender reassignment therapy should start as early as 7-8 year old' you WILL get banned, and you WILL get muzzled.

    Obviously that would most likely also include the written press

    https://mobile.twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1349853804590579713
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    Post  Hole Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:21 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    Hole wrote:https://www.stalkerzone.org/the-end-of-the-us-army/

    For comparison, Russian army in NK.

    What's the Russian army doing in North Korea????? Suspect

    The acronym of North Korea is PRK = Peoples Republic of Korea.
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    Post  Hole Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:26 pm

    elconquistador wrote:Antifa/BLM militant John Sullivan has been arrested for his involvement at the Capitol riots. He was followed by a CNN camera team into the Capitol and was heard inviting others to perpetrate violence

    He was previously apprehended (and released within days) when he pointed a gun at a car during a BLM riot in Utah

    Fun fact: he's the adoptive son of retired Air Force General Kevin J Sullivan

    https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1349867391405223937/photo/1?

    https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1349577049053278208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1349577049053278208%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

    ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1349867391405223937%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=


    ... Aaand he's been released

    https://mobile.twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1350259775364333569?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1350259775364333569%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=2020 US elections. What's the status of pindostan and their 2nd civil war? - Page 22 Erukye10

    If people still needed proof that there were Fed plants in the crowd inciting others..

    Trump is impeached for trying to start an insurgency but the guy who founded a "NGO" with the name Insurgence USA is celebrated by CNN. Embarassed
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    Post  miketheterrible Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:40 pm

    Pavel Durov is another Jack Dorsey. The guy is a total tool and went anti Kremlin when they demanded the encryption data because Telegram was being used by terrorists that did the Metro bombings of the past. He is also a narssasist.

    But he became happy Kremlin after he gave up the encryption and the US authorities went after him for something else.

    So I guess he flips like a switch. But the Russian authorities now have little patience as they know this guy and have already went after him. If he tries another Jack Dorsey move, Telegram will be taken.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:14 pm


    Couple of years ago I went to this seminar organized by Serbian branch of Rotary Club and during one of the lectures we hit the topic of social networks in education

    Lecturer (quite a big cheese in local business and academia) made it clear in no uncertain terms that neither concepts of large search engines (e.g. Google) nor social networks (e.g. Facebook) are something that bunch of college kids came up with spontaneously on their own, both were heavily facilitated by DARPA

    Purpose of search engines is to figure out what people want, purpose of social networks is to figure out what people like, purpose being data acquisition and control

    This applies to all services of that type everywhere with those being linked to their respective nations (US approach was replicated elsewhere)



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    Post  andalusia Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:18 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    elconquistador wrote:You say that Whites 'own' the US...

    Correct

    Fortunately that's about to change which will have positive effects from where I'm sitting, namely all the dumb crap US has been doing thanks to wise White leadership will be gradually relocated to areas of interest of Blacks, Latinos and others



    PapaDragon, I wouldn't count out Blacks and Latinos being less corrupt or evil.  There are plenty of sociopathic black and latino politicians that would have no problem taking the place of whites in the CIA and carry out the evil oligarchic agenda of the corporations.  I wouldn't underestimate the evil of human nature in any race; whites are not the only ones that are greedy, sociopathic and would kill people for power.  People like Colin Powell, Susan Rice, Condolezza Rice, Barack Obama and many others have supported the "dumb crap US has been doing".  

    A Black President could have ordered the attack on Serbia in 1999 just like a white president such as Bill Clinton.  Obama was President when the Libyan government was toppled.  

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2012/09/william-norman-grigg/foreign-aid-is-a-tool-of-us-imperialism/
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:26 pm

    andalusia wrote:...A Black President could have ordered the attack on Serbia in 1999 just like a white president such as Bill Clinton. Obama was President when the Libyan government was toppled....

    Could have but he didn't (not that he wouldn't but it was still tidy whitey Bill)

    Besides, Obama was still working for old white guard but times are changing fast

    Some more variety is needed both in American demographics and in their choices of foreign policy adventures

    Both have been quite monotone and harmful so far, massive shakeup will be very welcome, time to spread that love around, no need for us subhumans to hog it all
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    Post  kvs Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:20 pm

    The rant video has been removed already. Welcome to freedom of thought and expression in the precious west.

    BTW, people were not afraid to openly attack the system in the USSR during the 1970s including at their work places. That is
    true regardless of so-called dissidents being harassed. These "dissidents" were a western 5th column and were asking for it.
    By contrast, the current regime in the west (USA, Canada, UK, extending into western Europe) is totalitarian. If you start to
    open your mouth in public your opinions will be silenced. You do not have to be some professional malcontent to be muzzled.
    And they do not have to remove you completely. This trick fools the morons who think that only total removal indicates muzzling.



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    Post  Hole Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:16 pm

    Hole wrote:
    AlfaT8 wrote:
    Hole wrote:https://www.stalkerzone.org/the-end-of-the-us-army/

    For comparison, Russian army in NK.

    What's the Russian army doing in North Korea????? Suspect

    The acronym of North Korea is PRK = Peoples Republic of Korea.

    DPRK. Fu.. I forget that North-Korea is democratic. Embarassed
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    Post  kvs Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:27 pm

    You just Freudian slipped and were thinking about PRC I love you

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    Post  par far Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:26 am

    There is a migrant caravan that is coming into the US, this is sponsored by Soros.

    When Trump was president, he put an end to this but now that liberals/deep state has taken over, it looks like they will be welcomed.

    This is just the start, much like Europe, there will be many more millions from Latin America that will be let in. Crime will go up, drugs will go up, murders will go up and there is already pressure on the police.

    I know this will slowly destroy the US(not that I don't mind it)(like it did to Europe) but what is the purpose of letting all these migrants in, they will just suck the welfare system dry?


    https://www.rt.com/usa/512765-migrant-caravan-biden-policy/
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    Post  kvs Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:44 am

    The agenda is clear. The up and coming US aristocracy wants pliant serfs. It does not need "reactionary white males" who
    hold on to certain values and expectations. Such as individual rights and reasonable economic opportunities. They want
    people who have had neither and don't expect them.

    So we have the opposite process of progress. Instead of lifting the world up, we have the devolution of the 1st world to
    3rd world levels. Not in some token economic form, but in the cultural and ethnic composition domain. The 1st world
    is being physically destroyed to lubricate the psychotic delusions of the 1st world ruling elites.

    For most civilized history humans have lived under conditions of serfdom in one form or another ruled by a tiny clique
    and toiling on the farm to pay the tax. That is not any exaggeration. The development we have seen over the last
    150 years is apparently an aberration and is in the process of being dismantled.

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    Post  elconquistador Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:26 am

    RTN wrote:So on one hand forum members tell us that CIA, FBI /Deep State planned this entire "Insurrection" thing to eventually break up the US.


    Please provide direct sources for this. The goal at this point seems to be to create such a media frenzy against the MAGA movement that the public will OK the new War on Domestic Terror (and subsequently taking away the 1A and 2A rights)

    Right now it's not going too well. Trump's more popular than before January 6, and from what I've heard he's gained in popularity again after the Impeachment - couldn't find an article on that.

    https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/1004872?dkt_nbr=6F12122iovhm&section=us&keywords=rasmussen&year=2021&month=01&date=08&id=1004872&oref=www.rooshvforum.com

    What does that mean? It means that new false flags could be on the horizon. Keep an eye on the 17-21 January time frame. By now 30 000 troops in DC, I am sure the simpler minds don't find that suspicious at all

    How does the CIA, NSA, FBI / Deep State benefit if the US breaks up? These entities benefit only because the US exists, in its current form.


    This line of reasoning indicates that these agencies are somehow working for their own greater good, and not for the puppeteers behind the scenes

    Frontmen of the NWO (most notably Schwab and Gates) have stated on multiple occasions that ushering in 'a new multipolar world order' (and thereby breaking down the current unipolar one) is part of The Great Reset. It's the Patriotic White gun owning traditionalist Americans that are standing in the way of this.

    In fact during the past year several timelines and scenarios have been wargamed. I believe these different scenarios are still on the table. One of them included a Trump takeover and the subsequent secession of the 3 Pacific states (Washington, Oregon and California)

    Participants of this wargame included high up generals, Democratic party members and media ambassadors.

    The Transition Integrity Project can be found below. The part of a secession can be found in Game 3.

    https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/7013152/Preventing-a-Disrupted-Presidential-Election-and.pdf

    The usual incoherent, unsubstantiated posts that floods this forum.

    Imagine living in 2021 and still being so dense that you only focus on what is happening on stage, and not behind the scenes.
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    Post  par far Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:48 am

    kvs wrote:The agenda is clear.   The up and coming US aristocracy wants pliant serfs.  It does not need "reactionary white males" who
    hold on to certain values and expectations.   Such as individual rights and reasonable economic opportunities.   They want
    people who have had neither and don't expect them.

    So we have the opposite process of progress.   Instead of lifting the world up, we have the devolution of the 1st world to
    3rd world levels.   Not in some token economic form, but in the cultural and ethnic composition domain.  The 1st world
    is being physically destroyed to lubricate the psychotic delusions of the 1st world ruling elites.  

    For most civilized history humans have lived under conditions of serfdom in one form or another ruled by a tiny clique
    and toiling on the farm to pay the tax.   That is not any exaggeration.   The development we have seen over the last
    150 years is apparently an aberration and is in the process of being dismantled.  


    Does this mean that the loving standards in Russia and China will go up, when compared to western countries?

    Russia is setting targets of tackling the poverty problem(Russian government just announced a $400 Billion package to help eliminate poverty), China is also working very hard to eliminate poverty and they have done a very good job.

    After seeing for 3-4 years of what is happening in Europe, reading and researching about it online, discussing about it on this forum and others and after talking about it with people who visited Europe(my sister visited Europe in ending of 2018 and before she went in 2011, she may have went other times), it is evident that living standards have fallen and this has affected every, from the social fabric of society to the military.

    I think the same thing is going to happen to America, it is going the same route.

    The people doing this are western elites, I think they fucked up when they fucked with Russia, if we look back at what the situation was in Russia during the Georgian war.
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    Post  thegopnik Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:58 am

    par far wrote:There is a migrant caravan that is coming into the US, this is sponsored by Soros.

    When Trump was president, he put an end to this but now that liberals/deep state has taken over, it looks like they will be welcomed.

    This is just the start, much like Europe, there will be many more millions from Latin America that will be let in. Crime will go up, drugs will go up, murders will go up and there is already pressure on the police.

    I know this will slowly destroy the US(not that I don't mind it)(like it did to Europe) but what is the purpose of letting all these migrants in, they will just suck the welfare system dry?


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    Considering Germany and Afghanistan hope Russian troops like brown chicks  love . Russian hackers my ass if I was one I would support the party that causes the most harm to the US not some republican candidate strict on brown people coming to the U.S.
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    Post  kvs Sun Jan 17, 2021 5:11 am

    Yes, the middle class will grow in Russia and China while it will shrink in the west. In spite of all the hate spewed at Russia
    and China, both countries have societies that are still invested in real human progress and not elite rot. We are seeing
    the reality of the S Class kleptocracy in the west. Its propaganda mouthpieces love to yap about a Russian kleptocracy
    when it is obvious that one does not exist and we have an elected leader openly brow beating oligarchs for trying to act
    like typical western slime. No US president will ever attack the US kleptocracy this way. Not even someone like Trump
    who happens to be just some minor member of the US rich masters club.

    The western real kleptocracy is in the process of robbing all the western societies of their standard of living and human
    rights. Nothing beats the chutzpah of this theft. But there are too many lemmings who swallow the propaganda like
    the idiots in Ukraine who think that life is worse in Russia while their Banderite toilet swirls the toilet bowl. That is
    exactly the same relativist subjectivism that you have in the west with all sorts of morons voting for the kleptocrat
    puppets who are in the process of ass raping them.

    The western hate for Russia and Putin as its "demon leader" is that Russia dares to run away from the plantation. The plan
    for restoration of the aristocracy requires no alternative systems or options to compete for public mind space. That is
    why western propaganda tries to paint Russia as a failed state. With not a squeak about the failed state called Ukraine.
    China was supposed to be part of the "globalist" agenda but it looks like the Chinese have too much self-respect to conform
    to western white devils and their colonialist ambitions. They are, of course, totally correct.

    The centuries of western aristocracy and colonialism are not some quaint history. They are the basis of the whole society.
    The colonialism never ended and in spite of unions and the "welfare state", the owner class never disappeared. They just
    lubricated the system, through propaganda and direct staffing decisions resulting in dumbed down education and other
    policies serving their objectives, to undo the conditions that grew a middle class and shifted at least some of their power
    away from them.

    Part of the thinking about communist revolutions was to uproot the rotten elites. But that failed even where it succeeded.
    The USSR was brought down from within (not by Reagan and his SDI) by nomenklatura that wanted to live it up like the
    western elites. So we see that this rot is universal. But the coup in Russia derailed after about 10 years. Not all elements
    of Soviet society became born again capitalist maggots. Putin represents the professional classes who were screwed over
    by scum like Yeltsin. Opportunists who could care less about what system they run as long as it makes them rich. So
    we had the counter-coup in 1999. "Big bad tyrant" Putin has maintained a meritocratic order that has kept lid on the oligarchy.
    Ukraine is what would have happened to Russia if parasites like Khodorkovsky and Berezovsky were left unchecked. Thanks
    to Putin keeping Russia on the right path, the population now expects more of the same. That is, better living conditions and
    no Yeltsin style treachery. I think this sane state will last long enough for Russia to rise while former 1st world countries
    will decay.

    A substantial possibility is that by resisting the western rot, Russia will give the western public the stimulus to restore sanity
    in their own countries. But they have to stop drinking the PC and anti-Russian koolaid for that to happen.

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    Post  elconquistador Sun Jan 17, 2021 5:24 am

    thegopnik wrote:
    par far wrote:There is a migrant caravan that is coming into the US, this is sponsored by Soros.

    When Trump was president, he put an end to this but now that liberals/deep state has taken over, it looks like they will be welcomed.

    This is just the start, much like Europe, there will be many more millions from Latin America that will be let in. Crime will go up, drugs will go up, murders will go up and there is already pressure on the police.

    I know this will slowly destroy the US(not that I don't mind it)(like it did to Europe) but what is the purpose of letting all these migrants in, they will just suck the welfare system dry?


    https://www.rt.com/usa/512765-migrant-caravan-biden-policy/

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    Considering Germany and Afghanistan hope Russian troops like brown chicks  love . Russian hackers my ass if I was one I would support the party that causes the most harm to the US not some republican candidate strict on brown people coming to the U.S.

    LOL 90± percent of the Central American Latinas look like walking fridges and are famous for their 'potato-looks' (ie from wide at the top to narrow at the bottom)

    They are also famous for their horrible lifestyle choices, short stature, native features and horrendous aging patterns. A poor gene pool to start with, cola and chocolate cookies for breakfast, chugging down antibiotics on the daily as if it's nothing, zero exercise, no dental health care etc. They usually start getting fat at their 18-19th life year. When they are 22-23 you can all but give up on them

    Good luck!

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    The Latinas that do look hot are usually from majority European stock, but those won't be on those migrant caravans. Most of all you can find them in Miami/Florida (brasileras, colombianas, venezolanas, cubanas). If they are FOB more often than not they are engaged in some sort of soft prostitution.

    --

    Also when has a Republican politician on a federal level, like ever, been strict on brown people coming to the USA? Brushing the token resistance aside now.

    The GOP faction of the uni-party mandates immigration (be it low skilled illegal ones or 'high' - skilled HB1 Visa ones) because it keeps wages low and makes the middle class suffer. The Dem faction of the Uni-party requires immigrants because they need them as voter cattle/ refugee pets for their save-a-hoe libtard-ism

    And the puppeteer behind the strings implements the Kalergi plan

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