2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war #2

kvs wrote:Russia did not lose out of this for sure.   It avoided being entangled in an obvious trap which is a real fail for Pussynian and his
NATzO puppet masters and used the idiotic attack on the helicopter to put Azeri nutsacks in a vice.   Note how there is no
shrieking about Russian invasion and occupation.  

The severe undermining of Pussynian's regime is a clear win also.

You'd think the Armenians would of paid attention to the Maidan circus, I guess everyone has to find out the hard way. Hopefully they've learned the 'Pro-US/EU' equates to the death of your own existence.

https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/9957005 https://regnum.ru/news/polit/3111585.html https://regnum.ru/news/polit/3111290.html Deal Signed to End Nagorno-Karabakh War

Azerbaijan’s victory carves path to a gold mine

https://eurasianet.org/armenian-government-under-attack-following-war-defeat

Pacense wrote:
Hi all, my first post in the forum.

Serious question, what is holding Armenia now, to partnership with Georgia and turn west?

Why would the capitalist countries from the west help them ?

Armenia is an empty country just like NK.

Azerbaijan sells oil and gaz. Attacking them means buying more from Russia which they don't want to.

Even Russia isn't going to destroy its rekation with Az fir ARM.

Here's an absolutely beautiful rebuke of this cock-sauce of an article from the Moscow Times:


Here's the rebuke:

This is such a clueless, badly informed, take. Russia now has almost 2,000 troops in Nagarno-Karabakh. Something it has been trying to do since 1994. And it’s managed to resolve a festering sore (at least for now), without alienating either Baku or Yerevan.
https://twitter.com/27khv/status/1326142942772416512

Another user in the Twitter thread brought this up:

Russian peace keepers are going to make Nato membership impossible for the whole area for the foreseeable future yet they are saying this is decline of empire ? Ha
https://twitter.com/Magnitsky_LIE/status/1326198637311922177

This basically makes it impossible for either Azerbaijan or Armenia to be brought in to NATO membership proper when all things are considered.

STFU you 2-faced C*U*N*T!!!

(President of Georgia) Salome Zourabichvili: "A new era starts in the Caucasus. I congratulate our friends Armenia and Azerbaijan for ending a tragic war and thank all the facilitators. My sympathy to the families of the victims.

Peace and stability have no alternative! We launch together a #newchapter of cooperation"

https://twitter.com/Zourabichvili_S/status/1326105187572985858

A user rebuked her on here cockamamie bullshit:

You allowed Georgian airspace to be used to transfer literal terrorists for 40+ days. Imagine having the audacity to “congratulate” Armenia and calling what amounts to the loss of another part of our homeland the start of a new era. Pan-Turks will start a new era in Georgia too.
https://twitter.com/Zinvor/status/1326160306784104449

Notice the c*u*n*t with a brown paper bag skin for a face didn't even acknowledge that Russia was the sole reason why there's peace in NK.  She doesn't want to be reminded that Georgians were the reason why the Georgian War happened in the first place.

As in Syria, Turkey is being checkmated by Russia.

https://www.pravdareport.com/world/145239-mi_24_shootdown/

https://youtu.be/SgKMJBeMkrY?t=475

magnumcromagnon wrote:STFU you 2-faced C*U*N*T!!!

(President of Georgia) Salome Zourabichvili: "A new era starts in the Caucasus. I congratulate our friends Armenia and Azerbaijan for ending a tragic war and thank all the facilitators. My sympathy to the families of the victims.

Peace and stability have no alternative! We launch together a #newchapter of cooperation"

https://twitter.com/Zourabichvili_S/status/1326105187572985858

A user rebuked her on here cockamamie bullshit:

You allowed Georgian airspace to be used to transfer literal terrorists for 40+ days. Imagine having the audacity to “congratulate” Armenia and calling what amounts to the loss of another part of our homeland the start of a new era. Pan-Turks will start a new era in Georgia too.
https://twitter.com/Zinvor/status/1326160306784104449

Notice the c*u*n*t with a brown paper bag skin for a face didn't even acknowledge that Russia was the sole reason why there's peace in NK.  She doesn't want to be reminded that Georgians were the reason why the Georgian War happened in the first place.

The shitstorm on that tweet is hilarious.

All the Georgians coping with the fact that Georgia sent terrorists on behest of Turkey. They tried to point fingers at Russia but it wasn't Russia flying terrorists in

miketheterrible wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:STFU you 2-faced C*U*N*T!!!

(President of Georgia) Salome Zourabichvili: "A new era starts in the Caucasus. I congratulate our friends Armenia and Azerbaijan for ending a tragic war and thank all the facilitators. My sympathy to the families of the victims.

Peace and stability have no alternative! We launch together a #newchapter of cooperation"

https://twitter.com/Zourabichvili_S/status/1326105187572985858

A user rebuked her on here cockamamie bullshit:

You allowed Georgian airspace to be used to transfer literal terrorists for 40+ days. Imagine having the audacity to “congratulate” Armenia and calling what amounts to the loss of another part of our homeland the start of a new era. Pan-Turks will start a new era in Georgia too.
https://twitter.com/Zinvor/status/1326160306784104449

Notice the c*u*n*t with a brown paper bag skin for a face didn't even acknowledge that Russia was the sole reason why there's peace in NK.  She doesn't want to be reminded that Georgians were the reason why the Georgian War happened in the first place.

The shitstorm on that tweet is hilarious.

All the Georgians coping with the fact that Georgia sent terrorists on behest of Turkey.  They tried to point fingers at Russia but it wasn't Russia flying terrorists in

I already called it, Georgia will eventually be consumed by Turkey, and all the Georgian crybabies will beg to be toilet cleaners in Sochi rather than being slaughtered by Turkish Jihadists!

What is most funny is how the Georgians turns it around saying it is all Russia's fault in those tweets.

So I wanted to ask (but banned) how Russia was responsible for Turkey and Azerbaijan fucking up Armenia and Georgia flying in terrorists?

Somehow, they equate that because Georgia decided to try their hands at genocide and try to use US as a cover, that it's Russia's fault.

The mental gymnastics of Georgians is hilarious.

Not the brightest bunch, that's for sure.

Some semi intelligent Armenians (not many) were trying to tell them Russia was trying to send aid via Georgia but they denied Russian planes yet had no problem flying terrorists into Baku.  Answer from the Georgians? Oh, that's a Russian lie. Don't believe it.

I hope the Armenian on this board is OK and if he can shed some light here.

Pacense wrote:
Hi all, my first post in the forum.

Serious question, what is holding Armenia now, to partnership with Georgia and turn west?

I guess the remaining NKR territory

Not only 2.000 russian peacekeepers in NK but the land corridor between Aserbaidschan and Nakhchivan will be controlled by russian border guards. If Russia wants it can squeeze the balls of Aliev and the guy in Armenia a little bit from time to time.

flamming_python wrote:

Pacense wrote:
Hi all, my first post in the forum.

Serious question, what is holding Armenia now, to partnership with Georgia and turn west?

I guess the remaining NKR territory

I don't imagine allowing Turkey free flights over Georgia to supply the Azeris while blocking the Russians and anyone else from supplying Armenia will be forgotten in a hurry.

Indeed Georgia is going to assimilate itself into Turkey. It has already done so in Adjaria.

They even stopped commemorating their history to fellate Erdogan.

This is what happens to free loading parasites who lose their gravy train (the USSR) and don't know what to do with
themselves. I guess they think crawling up Turkey's ass will give them a fresh source of gravy.

Azerbaijan is not a friendly neughbour for them. They buy turkish weapons and are a competitor for Russia.

If he wanted to draw a line he should have attacked them.

The syrian proxies and the kill of two russian soldiers is enough to start a war.

Turkey is now free to do it again and will for sure keep sending syrian proxies there with weapons. They will then connect with Tchetchniya and it could restart a war there.

EU would have been stoped by french veto to do anything against Russia.

I don't mean a full out war but destroy some weapons to oblige them to stop the war without talks and agreements.

PapaDragon wrote:
Analysis: Putin draws Erdogan a red line on Russia's southern flank with Karabakh deal

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-armenia-azerbaijan-putin-erdogan-anal/analysis-putin-draws-erdogan-a-red-line-on-russias-southern-flank-with-karabakh-deal-idUSKBN27Q2RL



Alos I'd like to point out that current outcome is pretty much the same thing that Russia was pushing for during past couple of decades (minus complete and total defeat and humiliation of Armenia bit I'm sure it's an inconvenience they are willing to tolerate)

Interestingly sober analysis without most of the routine cheese.

But there was no generation of Kremlin loyalists. The people who took over in 1991 with their 99.51% vote to break up the USSR were Armenian
nationalists and not Russian stooges. But unlike Banderatards and the clowns in Georgia, they had functional brains and did not pointlessly antagonize
Russia. Pussynian is a Soros sock puppet who wanted to rub some chutzpah in Russia's face like all the other limitrophe retards. Now Armenians
can live the Ukr dream of getting nothing from their beloved NATzO bosses in exchange for their souls.

PapaDragon wrote:
Analysis: Putin draws Erdogan a red line on Russia's southern flank with Karabakh deal

Alos I'd like to point out that current outcome is pretty much the same thing that Russia was pushing for during past couple of decades (minus complete and total defeat and humiliation of Armenia bit I'm sure it's an inconvenience they are willing to tolerate)

I wonder when all of them will realize that all the problems could be successfully solved simply by preserving the USSR?

I looked at the agreement map. It looks close to an ideal solution. I like the road to Nachichevan. To help civilian trade. But a little unfair to force building new road to Stepanakert. Also the Azeris can return Armenian Town in South, they captured. But even as it stands, it is good. It is not worth going to war over it.

Will the deal hold ? Well I hope so. The Azeris have lost reason for fighting on. Their people believe they have won. They celebrate. So difficult for Turkey or Usrael or Takfiri or NATO, to push for war again. Another victory  for Russia. This was the decisive step needed. A line in the sand.

Will Armenians turn now to NATO?  NO. Because they learnt  that during this conflict , their worth for NATO is zero. Compared with their plans to choke Iran and Russia and China, by allowing Turkey  to advance against Armenia, and wipe it off the map. The geopolitics  of Armenia dictate a security pact with Russia and Iran.

@ vann7

Russia had good record with AD in Syria, against cruise missiles and  ATGW or Rockets. Because they are metal. Fast. Hot. Drones are more difficult, to hit, using same system. Different system needed. If Armenia has strong security arrangement with Russia or Iran, then it can find and destroy drone systems, with a couple of BM. No need for huge expense of star wars weapon. And there are far cheaper ways, to fight drones. Even cheaper than firing Igla. As I pointed out earlier. Armenians should make ready now. Because the Turks and Rats, may launch false flag, blame Azeris. Provoke Armenia to retaliate. Force war again.

@ Scorpius

I think nation States , are a more practical arrangement. Than borderless proletarian utopia. Or borderless Liberal dystopia. New arrangements based on collective security and economic development in Euro-Asia, will  bear fruit.