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Isos wrote:Engines can be installed at the end. They could have build the ships while engines are created.
No, they can't. No-one in his right mind would commit to starting work on a series of hulls without an assured engine supply or detailed arrangement drawings that define the engineering interfaces.The Russian navy did the right thing, ie reallocate funds to other projects while completing the two units for which they have delivered powerplants and do so over a lengthened schedule to fully shake-down the design and certify them for service. Gorhskov first, test the absolute sht outta it while completing Kasanatov as a snails pace so engineering fixes from Gorshkov testing can be accommodated into the build and expensive rework avoided.
Russia's naval priority remains her submarines because they are what scares the Seppostani Continuum. She is building 6x serial Yasens, an extended run of Borei II, repairing almost her entire fleet of 971s, modernizing half of the 949A and rolling out new SSKs. Setbacks on the Gorshkov program due to Ukropi treachery is a relatively minor matter.
Isos wrote:Grigorovitch is almost the same size/weight with VLS too.
No, the 11356s are MUCH inferior in terms of weapons and sensors. Only 1 single UKSK, a much less capable BUK/Shtil AAM, Soviet-era radar tech (updated) and only 1x 100mm artillery. AFAIK they were originally built as a stop-gap measure or a hedge against 22350 project failure. They are suitable for the near-abroad like Black Sea and Baltic, but they are inadequate as "ships-of-the-line" for a reincarnated Russian blue water force.
Isos wrote:They also mention Super Gorshkov while no one says what it is. They gave a funny maket with hundreds of VLS that is only a pure joke.
Its called marketing. Everyone does it, even state-owned companies. Dangle a baited line in front of the noses of government ministers or Navy brass and hopefully they will bite.
Don't get too upset over the less than stellar current performance of Russia's surface ship building industry. She had to restart from a ruined and neglected base and it was always going to be a hard slog.
