i have seen the videos of pantsirs ,tors and s-300 including nebo radars destroyed, this are
Russian air defenses , designed by russia and given to armenia ,and some of them manned
by russian officers . Pasha even himself uploaded a tweeter with tors air defenses on his background
,that they got the last week of the war from russia.. and those air defenses require professionals
well trained for years or at least for half a year at least to operate , and armenia will had no time
to train their soldiers in such short time , it had to be operated by russian officers.. a video
that i posted that shows their Tors operators hidding the tor in a house ,that was completely destroyed by a wolf pack of drones .
So would you accept an offer to operate a TOR in armenia border with nagorno to shot down
those turkey and israeli drones? no one will do that other than anyone whiling to die for putin ,
and his disastrous foreign policy ,and his experiments ,that use their soldiers as guinea pigs .
he will offer condolence to the families of officers killed , and their military and media will keep
blaming armenia for their lost.. but it is Russia responsibility to train the armenian army and to
properly defend their main land ,something they miserably failed to do ,since even their russian helicopter will be shot down..
The venezuelan refinery was attacked by just one missile or rail gun attack ,according to venezuelan government and you can't accuse maduro of being Pro NATO.
so lets stop making excuses , the russian airdefenses are good for what they really were designed against planes ,but not very good versus today moder drones warfare capabilities of swarm of drones ,or terrain hugging flying drones or other drones tactics ,like super high altitude kamikazi gliders..that nato advertise on youtube. Simply Russia is in very serious big troubles ,if all they have
to counter NATO is what we already know they have as "air defenses". Russia will need energy weapons and emp artillery and railguns ,a 180 degrees change of the way the Russian military ,
trains to protect their airspace.NATO will never send f-35s or bombers to the front line , they will only
enter when swarm of cheap drones have completely wiped russian air defenses and to avoid a direct
confrontation they have the option to use ukraine as their bases of operations and will use ukrainian soldiers uniforms and will target crimea or even russian airbases in main land too.. so hard times head for Russia specially with putin in power . Even if russia hold the territory ,the massive losses
in russian hardware will send bankrupt Russia economy. lets not forget armenia lost a couple of hundred of tanks and about 1-2 billions dollars $ in hardware ,against a small country like azerbaijan.
If Russia was facing a full nato drones attack operation Russia military will have been smashed in same way ,armenia was by those turkey and israeli drones..
and all that night vision and bullet proof vest you talk about will have done absolutely no
difference , where armenia lost was in the air ,because azerbaijan had complete air dominance
of the nagorno airpsace.. russia dominated nothing in that conflict.. not even had proper control
of armenia airspace ,hence two pilots died ,and russian incompetence is to blame.
The drones destroyed armenia-nagorno artilleries ,and their tanks which very effective in pushing
back the azeris during the first two weeks.. once the drones neutralized armenia air defenses not only in nagorno ,but in armenia itself too ,it was game over for armenia.
even azerbaijan list 2-3 s-300s destroyed by them , tors and pantsirs and the russian military
did not question or challenge this claim.
Reality is the incompetent leadership of Russia lost that war and not armenia.
because the armenians did very well in ground combat and where they failed was in controlling
the airspace ,which was full responsibility of russia military to help nagorno to cover it.
the only thing Russia did ,that worked ,was to agreed to a surrender most of nagorno karabah territory in change for a temporary cease of fire.. but that eventually is a war ,that putin is going
to face again ,specially with biden in power . so the war will continue and they will now double
or triple down with their drones attack. Russia will face a total defeat there and will have to negotiate
even the lost of some of armenia main territory for peace. lets not forget the previous armenian government ,was pro putin and also lost territory to azerbaijan.. so don't blame pasha.. is putin
the one to blame and the russian military ,for their underestimating of their enemies.. now even those s-400s will be in the hands of their enemies.. thanks to putin and if that idiot allowed to finish
his term ,he will give away to erdogan also their stealth planes.. su-50. with leaders like putin who needs enemies? his retarded foreign policy of trying to influence enemies with cowardice and weakness is going to cause massive loss of lives of russian soldiers and reverse all the gains
that the russian scientist achieved in the defense industry. whats the point of russia creating cutting
edge weapons if they later give them to NATO and their enemies to reverse engineer them ?
Forget about s-400s and s-300s.. they will be totally and absolutely irrelevant weapons for
true life scenarios ,where Russia will need to defend itself. in NATO playbook ,they will repeat
this proxy war scenarios ,they did in armenian war and syrian war ,to bring down to its knees
the russian military. NATO can very easily repeat the defeat of russia with armenia defenses..
in a new ukrainian war. just provide 10x times more drones to ukraine ,that the ones azerbaijan
had from canada and israel and you will see total destruction of russia air defenses ,artillery and
and tanks ,including s-400s and s-300s ,tors and pantsirs if they provided to donbass.. and this is where the humiliation will be total , for russia to lose on their own borders to a former soviet state
armed by nato. i predict when russia suffer another major defeat ,near its borders , that the russian military will rebel and kick putin from the presidency for his incompetent and for being so weak.
On top the russian military will need to go back to the drawing board and replace their s-300s and s-400s for something else. the only defenses that will still had a place on russian inventory will be
s-500s for its ability to fight in space while at the same time ,can fight in the combat planes domain too and shot down planes. So people should not celebrate too much every new division of s-400s deployed ,they are useless against low flying drones , against kamikazi drones and against swarm of drones ,but also will also completely vulnerable to rail gun attacks.. so more cheap anti air smart artillery ,energy weapons and rail guns will be the future of air defenses.. and this will have to be combined with a strong leader ,that is not a scared to fight back their enemies when they attacked.
Never forget that , NATO will have absolutely no reason to send manned combat planes against
s-300s or s-400s when cheap drones can do the same job and much better for far cheaper. so good luck for those s-400s and s-300s operators.. they better control those units in a bunker underground
because they will be smashed by NATO and israel drones ,that just like in the armenian war.. they provided to an enemy of Russia.. ukraine will be the next war , mark my words , they found a major
weakness of russian military and they will exploit it . All russian allies will also be extremely vulnerable ,so i wonder what will be people excuses in this forum for venezuela s-300s and pantsirs failing to protect their oil refineries from drone attacks? those venezuela s-300s will also be destroyed
mark my words ,by a lonely cheap kamikazi drone and putin and his military will not move a finger
to help them , because they simply can't defend properly against advanced drones attacks and they could even restart the syrian war ,this times the attacks on russian bases ,that russia knows are done by NATO ,will be done by more advanced drones and russia will do nothing about it ,when they get their s-400s destroyed..in their own base, i will be here to tell you. . I Told you so. the defense of a territory cant be done properly against drones just using rockets with warhead seekers interception ,and specially if the enemy is allowed to continue trying and trying and disrespecting your military all the time. as turkey and israel does.
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