PapaDragon wrote:
CAN WE PLEASE NOT DO THIS HERE? PRETTY PLEASE? WITH SUGAR ON TOP?
This is one of my favorite treads so would y'all kindly take this shit smearing contest somewhere else?
Thank you in advance...
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PapaDragon wrote:
CAN WE PLEASE NOT DO THIS HERE? PRETTY PLEASE? WITH SUGAR ON TOP?
This is one of my favorite treads so would y'all kindly take this shit smearing contest somewhere else?
Thank you in advance...
runaway wrote: Its like an infantryman wearing a helmet, it doesnt help much but it does make you feel safer and encourage you to take action, fire back for example.
On Wednesday, the Vedomosti newspaper reported that a source from the state atomic energy corporation, Rosatom, confirmed it had completed a tender process to keep its computers ticking over. Management is said to have handed the contract to provide software for 87 of its separate subsidiaries to Russian developer MyOffice. The deal, commentators say, is worth 200 million rubles ($2.7 million), although the maximum value of the contract could be far higher.
https://www.rt.com/russia/515976-nuclear-officials-home-designed-tech/
RT of course show this as a "major achievement" wow ...20 years to replace one microsoft word processor and powerpoint. The order to start
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Vann7 wrote:blah blah blah...
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Big_Gazza wrote:Fuck, but I am getting SICK of Vann7s fucking stupid and endless walls of Putin-hate word salad... This guy has some kind of compulsive obsession and it ain't healthy...
What does it take to get this moron booted?? How many times must he puke this fucking nonsense on this forum before he at least gets a warning???
He is trolling endlessly, but he gets away with it. My patience is wearing razor-thin, and I surely can't be the only one???
Big_Gazza wrote:Vann7 wrote:blah blah blah...
Fuck, but I am getting SICK of Vann7s fucking stupid and endless walls of Putin-hate word salad... This guy has some kind of compulsive obsession and it ain't healthy...
What does it take to get this moron booted?? How many times must he puke this fucking nonsense on this forum before he at least gets a warning???
He is trolling endlessly, but he gets away with it. My patience is wearing razor-thin, and I surely can't be the only one???
RT of course show this as a "major achievement" wow ...20 years to replace one microsoft word processor and powerpoint. The order to start
The reason why some of us are not bitching the whole time about him and other resident trolls is simply that we put them in our ignored list long ago. But yes, to have this circus troupe polluting the forum is hardly of interest for anyone outside the world of psychiatry...
GarryB wrote:Honestly turn on a TV anywhere in the west and you hear the same talking points and bullshit... I stopped reading his posts a long time ago, they often contain the same juvenile cut and paste dribble that western media organisations now call journalism...
The thing is that anti Putin BS means he is making the right choices and pushing the correct buttons... ironically most of Vanns rants are about Putin not being hard enough on the west... so essentially he is complaining that Putin is not Stalin or perhaps even Beria...
Putin has shown recently that he realises that ship has sailed now and seems to be making good on earlier promises to detach more from the west and look to other places in the world for trade and good relations.... and not a moment too soon in my opinion.
Banning Vann and some idiot would step up and take his place and nothing really would have changed at all.
Of course Vann could help himself here by at least trying to make more sense and be a bit more coherent... but what are you going to do?
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Actually they have no plan for any state beyond its destruction, that is why they are so dear to the establishment. Worst even, they will never accept how deeply illiterate they are in political topics, because they are 100% ideological about them. They are the political equivalent of cancer, basically.
Putin is a foreign service KGB guy that realises the nature of the West since he grew his teeth. The only thing that has changed in the last years is that Russia has grown strong enough to show more resolve and assertiveness. As I've been saying for a while, this is only going to increase (massively) in this decade. You do not develop a country like Russia as fast and comprehensively has Putin as done along 20 years by a lucky fluke.
Weeding the garden is the same kind of thankless work, but it needs to be done regardless or you will not produce or even find what you planted...
Vann, as some others, are not here to discuss anything but on a sacred mission, to bugger us Putin "stooges" and pray their truth. They don't fucking care one bit about making sense, being accepted, or civil, they don't care about our opinion either. They just keep repeating their mantras endlessly and parasitising this forum as a resonance chamber for their shit.
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You know why these very underdeveloped countries have high fertility, because women don't have much of an option in these places.
They are not underdeveloped because of their population, they have their population BECAUSE they are underdeveloped.
Numerous papers were written on the issue of overpopulation in Africa, do you know what the answer was to counter it, it was Women's rights, education and of course careers.
So what do we in the West do, when we are facing a declining population, the answer is CRYSTAL clear, but people don't want to admit it, because Egalitarianism is the Holy Sacred Cow of the West.
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GarryB wrote:But does that make them wrong? Does that mean you should not listen to alternative views?
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Such a toxic cancel environment is not something I aspire to achieve here.
Happy to discuss with anyone though.
Honestly just a shame these guys aren't getting paid for their "work".
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I enjoy alternative views and celebrate that you are committed to preserving them. I just have to say that some people here are not having "discussions", at all. I have not seen them moving one milimeter EVER, they blatantly disregard facts and common sense in favour of magical / ideological thinking and essentially have an unilateral stance instead of participating in an exchange of information.
You may be trying to discuss with them, they are not discussing anything because they have nothing to learn from you and me. If after hundreds and thousands of exchanges this is not clear, then, well, your faith in people is possibly bigger than what reality supports.
The peril is that other people that are actually contributing get annoyed and in any case, the quality of the board drops significantly, because repeating endlessly the same discussions with people that cannot handle information and logic at an elementary level has no interest whatsoever.
But those are just my two cents, everyone needs to understand that here you are the one to call the shots.
GarryB wrote:I appreciate what you are saying, repeatedly shown to be wrong yet continue the same line of discussion from another direction with the same point of view as if the previous line had not been shot down in flames.
You have to appreciate that these beliefs are the world view of these people... they simply can't accept the real truth for their sanities sake.
If people get upset because not everyone loves Putin then they need to set up a putin worship site of their own.
Honestly I think a few members have stopped coming here because there is not enough conflict and not enough anti Russian and anti putin chatter that they can get their teeth into... not enough risk of getting banned.
I do appreciate hearing the views of members and it is not like certain members can never be banned.
Banning them wont make those views just disappear, and ignoring them can lead to the idea that perhaps they are right if no one contradicts them.
Leads to annoying concepts like perception is reality.... if a tree falls in the forest and no body is there to hear it... does it still make a noise...
I will move this stuff to the talking bollocks thread... don't take this personally I do listen to peoples opinions but conflicting responsibilities mean I don't want to comply because I don't want to create a yes man forum of Putin worshippers... which is ironic because this forum was created because most forums in pro west creations are west worshippers with the non believers creeping around on eggshells so as not to be thrown to the wolves...
Exactly. If your counterpart does not listen to you, it is not a discussion but a monologue.
Their world view is insanity, as proven by their blunt dismissal of facts and incapacity to handle logic.
Not by that, but by the sheer amount of repetitive stupidity they find when trying to find information about a topic. Of course ignoring list is nice for those experienced users, unregistered ones cannot filter that out.
Ok, no idea. I personally enjoy balanced discussions with rational people, there are many other places where you can get your teeth into something or someone. In the end it revolves around the type of board one tries to create.
I do not agree that every opinion is respectable, some opinions are full of shit.
People that cannot usee their brains properly need to be helped, not to be given a loudspeaker or put at the helm for the rest of society to become their victims. Sorry for that non-inclusive message boys...
Discussing every loony in this world as much as they want is a kind of slavery...
Unavoidable fact of reality we cannot change I am afraid. But better for them to construct their echo chamber somewhere else.
This forum is a drop in a sea so I don't think it is wrong that baseless smearing of Russia gets debunked first and then shown the door if it insists repeatedly on inane, intelligence insulting stupidity as perceived by most users. Every forum has a tone and this one has no obligation to be a exception I think. But that is just my opinion and as said I appreciate that you are a genuinely tolerant guy
GarryB wrote:I sometimes think the people who stay quiet are the smart ones because they are not going to lose their jobs in 10 years time over some silly comment made here or elsewhere.
Mods can't filter that out either...
That is true but we have a set of rules for everyone.... keep to the rules and you can be as ignorant as you please.
Well the first step to helping these people is to identify them in the first place, but the second step always requires that they want to be helped and not everyone gets past the second step... it is important not to judge them of course... when you piss them off they will just hunker down and refuse to accept there is a problem and a discussion becomes an argument... when it is an argument it comes down to winning or losing, and you win... even if you have to cheat or lie or make shit up. Which is why arguments are useless... especially on the internet.
It is totally up to you to decide how much time you invest in reading and writing to these or any people, so it would be a slavery of your own making.
People can make it really easy by breaking the rules, but I think some people who want certain other people banned perhaps that to solve the problem and I can tell them it wont... there are these sort of people on every forum and when they get gotten rid of they either pop up again or someone else comes and takes their place... some times existing people actually change and become more like the people who got banned... it is almost like they see them not as morons or bad guys but people who are just testing the group... testing this society with a sort of devils advocate type logic or reasoning but when people object to such stupidity it turns into an argument and they are forced to harden their stance... essentially they get pushed from moderate dissent to hard core opposition.
Wow... that is deep... I need a sit down and a cookie...
I would be content simply if one or two people do not have the power to pester one hundred.
Sure, I was just answering your previous comment that you did not want to leave their arguments unanswered
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Backman wrote:We were talking about our experiences on F-16.net on another thread. I just wanted to ad this here in "talking bollocks" I opened a Deviant Art account for hosting pictures. I had a bunch pics of the su 57 and F-22. Plus some economy stuff like charts. Just for a joke , my username was KGB. Wouldn't you know it , right in the middle of the Trump Russia hysterics, my account was banned. I should have screen shotted the ban prompt because it said something about foreign agents and shit. My little image hosting account was picked up by the national security dragnet. Just insane.
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Backman wrote:We were talking about our experiences on F-16.net on another thread. I just wanted to ad this here in "talking bollocks" I opened a Deviant Art account for hosting pictures. I had a bunch pics of the su 57 and F-22. Plus some economy stuff like charts. Just for a joke , my username was KGB. Wouldn't you know it , right in the middle of the Trump Russia hysterics, my account was banned. I should have screen shotted the ban prompt because it said something about foreign agents and shit. My little image hosting account was picked up by the national security dragnet. Just insane.
thegopnik wrote:Backman wrote:We were talking about our experiences on F-16.net on another thread. I just wanted to ad this here in "talking bollocks" I opened a Deviant Art account for hosting pictures. I had a bunch pics of the su 57 and F-22. Plus some economy stuff like charts. Just for a joke , my username was KGB. Wouldn't you know it , right in the middle of the Trump Russia hysterics, my account was banned. I should have screen shotted the ban prompt because it said something about foreign agents and shit. My little image hosting account was picked up by the national security dragnet. Just insane.
Are you the same KGB that was on key aero? I recognize alot of familiar users at secretprojects only users that are not there is jo asakura who is currently at paralayboards, and to my biggest surprise I cant find Action Jackson either at secretprojects or f-16.net literally the biggest shitposter on key aeros Su-57 thread. Military matter related forums are the biggest honeypot viewing sites but I guess your feeling aggravated of the accusation and assumed as a foreign agent than just a fan of Russian equipment. Thus there are moderators or admins working overtime to find small petty excuses to push out bans.
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Backman wrote:thegopnik wrote:Backman wrote:We were talking about our experiences on F-16.net on another thread. I just wanted to ad this here in "talking bollocks" I opened a Deviant Art account for hosting pictures. I had a bunch pics of the su 57 and F-22. Plus some economy stuff like charts. Just for a joke , my username was KGB. Wouldn't you know it , right in the middle of the Trump Russia hysterics, my account was banned. I should have screen shotted the ban prompt because it said something about foreign agents and shit. My little image hosting account was picked up by the national security dragnet. Just insane.
Are you the same KGB that was on key aero? I recognize alot of familiar users at secretprojects only users that are not there is jo asakura who is currently at paralayboards, and to my biggest surprise I cant find Action Jackson either at secretprojects or f-16.net literally the biggest shitposter on key aeros Su-57 thread. Military matter related forums are the biggest honeypot viewing sites but I guess your feeling aggravated of the accusation and assumed as a foreign agent than just a fan of Russian equipment. Thus there are moderators or admins working overtime to find small petty excuses to push out bans.
That might have been me. Does anyone post there anymore ? They destroyed a lively forum with a bad format change.
Action Jackson was the worst piece of shit on that forum for sure.
By the way, Paralayboards has been down for a few days. The server is down or something. Anyone else notice ? Here is a link. http://paralay.iboards.ru/It doesnt work. Maybe they are throttling Russian websites on us now I dunno
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