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    Post  elconquistador Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:54 pm

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/egypt-s-suez-canal-blocked-stranded-container-ship-blown-sideways-n1261891

    There is currently a tanker stranded in the Suez Canal. 7. 5 percent of all global shipping traffic goes through that strait
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    Post  kvs Wed Mar 24, 2021 3:33 pm

    elconquistador wrote:https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/egypt-s-suez-canal-blocked-stranded-container-ship-blown-sideways-n1261891

    There is currently a tanker stranded in the Suez Canal. 7. 5 percent of all global shipping traffic goes through that strait

    But Russian and Chinese plans for the northern sea route are pure evil.

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    Post  lyle6 Wed Mar 24, 2021 3:34 pm

    Nani? Suezo Dorifto?

    Betting on a Filipino helmsman screwing up behind the wheel, probably listening to Eurobeats while he's at it.
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    Post  kvs Wed Mar 24, 2021 3:42 pm

    lyle6 wrote:Nani? Suezo Dorifto?

    Betting on a Filipino helmsman screwing up behind the wheel, probably listening to Eurobeats while he's at it.

    Probably high on some sort of dope as well.

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    Post  thegopnik Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:25 pm

    https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2021-03-23/musk-says-spacex-to-land-starship-rockets-on-mars-well-before-2030#:~:text=Musk%20Says%20SpaceX%20to%20Land%20Starship%20Rockets%20on%20Mars%20Well%20Before%202030,-By%20Reuters%2C%20Wire&text=March%2023%2C%202021-,By%20Reuters%2C%20Wire%20Service%20Content%20March%2023,2021%2C%20at%205%3A14%20a.m.&text=(Reuters)%20%2D%20Elon%20Musk%27s%20SpaceX,in%20a%20tweet%20on%20Tuesday.
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    Post  elconquistador Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:38 pm

    lyle6 wrote:Nani? Suezo Dorifto?

    Betting on a Filipino helmsman screwing up behind the wheel, probably listening to Eurobeats while he's at it.

    No, not a Filipino..

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    Post  Backman Thu Mar 25, 2021 12:37 am

    thegopnik wrote:https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2021-03-23/musk-says-spacex-to-land-starship-rockets-on-mars-well-before-2030#:~:text=Musk%20Says%20SpaceX%20to%20Land%20Starship%20Rockets%20on%20Mars%20Well%20Before%202030,-By%20Reuters%2C%20Wire&text=March%2023%2C%202021-,By%20Reuters%2C%20Wire%20Service%20Content%20March%2023,2021%2C%20at%205%3A14%20a.m.&text=(Reuters)%20%2D%20Elon%20Musk%27s%20SpaceX,in%20a%20tweet%20on%20Tuesday.

    Musk is a fraud. Talking bollocks is his forte

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    Post  Maximmmm Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:47 am

    elconquistador wrote:
    lyle6 wrote:Nani? Suezo Dorifto?

    Betting on a Filipino helmsman screwing up behind the wheel, probably listening to Eurobeats while he's at it.

    No, not a Filipino..

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    Could be weeks that it's stuck there apparently. Cool teaching case for geopolitics though. You always hear people nowadays say "land, why do people even need more land"? Well, because sometimes things that happen on that land can have massive effects on the entire planet.
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    Post  elconquistador Thu Mar 25, 2021 11:26 am

    Maximmmm wrote:
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    lyle6 wrote:Nani? Suezo Dorifto?

    Betting on a Filipino helmsman screwing up behind the wheel, probably listening to Eurobeats while he's at it.

    No, not a Filipino..

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    Could be weeks that it's stuck there apparently. Cool teaching case for geopolitics though. You always hear people nowadays say "land, why do people even need more land"? Well, because sometimes things that happen on that land can have massive effects on the entire planet.

    It indeed might take a while.

    This situation could lead to shortages in goods/ food and price hikes pretty fast

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    Post  elconquistador Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:26 pm

    Apparantly the ship is stuck on both sides with the current right on the center. That can't be good for a ship this heavy. It's stuck in a pretty abandoned part of the Sinai, Egyptians are struggling to get heavy materiel to the site. Media is allegedly been kept away from the site as well - not sure where the picture above comes from

    There are already lots of cancellations going on. If this continues for days or even weeks oil might peak above 100 usd a barrel again.

    Also suspicious: the ship navigated around a bit before it got stuck and according yo the GPS data (and some imagination) it drew a big penis in an ass

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    Post  kvs Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:46 pm

    The subconscious aspiration of females. lol1

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    Post  Hole Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:12 pm

    Currently the Chiker is in the Med, part of the russian flotilla there. One of the strongest tug "boats" in the world, made to pull aircraft carriers around. Maybe it could help.

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    Post  mnztr Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:13 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    Seriously I think the Iranian regime is evil, based on how it treats its people, but the saber rattling approach is just pointless.

    I find it hilarious that westerners judge Iran as evil... the number of living people made dead in that region because of the actions of a government would be an interesting list and I suspect Iran would be no where near the top of that list... and more ironically the moral and ethical and judgemental western powers that identify other leaders as killers and this or that regime as being evil are head and shoulders at the top of that list.

    Look at the death penalty in the US, or Guantanimo Bay concentration camp... if you are poor you die...


    Yes I judge them as evil based on how they treat their own people. The USA does do some evil things for sure, as does even Canada and all the western countries and China, but I would live in most of those countries, NO WAY would I live in Iran. Maybe visit but thats it.
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    Post  mnztr Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:42 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    Yes I judge them as evil based on how they treat their own people.

    But what is the actual treatment you find to be evil... Considering in Canada you can be arrested for child abuse calling your son male terms when she has decided she identifies as female. I don't think many things are evil, but your country supported the US to kill millions of people in the Middle East and elsewhere while calling anyone who died a terrorist or collateral damage... shoot first and fix any problems with cash payments to survivors... being an athiest I don't really think in terms of good and evil... but if I was to start calling governments evil... like I have said western people should not throw stones.

    The USA does do some evil things for sure, as does even Canada and all the western countries and China, but I would live in most of those countries, NO WAY would I live in Iran. Maybe visit but thats it.

    So pillage and murder around the world, along with blackmail and theft, has paid off so much you forgive the west their crimes, yet think of Iran as evil.

    Interesting.

    Question is, what is a reasonable fleet of bombers for Russias needs? They have about 60 TU-95, plan to build up to 50 TU-160, 60 TU-22 and how many PAK-DAs? As its stands they have a pretty staggering fleet. If they are gonna build a lot of PAK-DA plus the AAM capability, does this signal a major change in operational docterine for heavy units?

    The problem is that the 15 Blackjacks they currently have is not really a viable force so when they make another 50 or so they can form operational units from those aircraft. The Tu-22Ms don't come in to it because they are theatre strike only and have no strategic purpose.

    The purpose of the PAK DA is to form a mixed fleet of supersonic very long range cruise missile and missile carriers (Tu-160 only) and subsonic long range fuel efficient and cheaper to operate bomb and missile carriers that can carry large outsized loads internally with lots of fuel and inflight refuelling for strategic missions with long range and hypersonic long range missiles, or shorter ranged missions with much much heavier conventional loads.

    Essentially the Tu-160 is expanded to become the primary anti US strategic cruise missile carrier force, while the PAK DA will replace the Tu-95 in the subsonic strategic role, but extra PAK DAs could be built for other missions like inflight refuelling support of the strategic attack PAK DA... the inflight refuelling versions could carry Zircon missiles and AAMs as well as lots of fuel so as they head over the north pole with the cruise missile armed PAK DAs, they could launch Zircons at AEGIS cruisers in the Arctic Ocean looking for ballistic missile warheads to shoot down, plus long range AAMs to engage any long range cruise missiles or enemy fighter aircraft in the air.

    As I said the Tu-160 and PAKDA will replace the Bears and Backfires in their current roles, but that frees these aircraft that are new and up to date for other missions.

    New missiles are entering service which would be ideal for the Bears and Backfires to keep them potent and useful... the new Grom, a 1,500km range mach 6 defence penetration missile is one example, while the Kh-50 subsonic stealthy 1,500km range missile is interesting too.

    In the short term the Tu-22M3 and Tu-95 that are made redundant as new Blackjacks and PAK DAs are produced could be used as inflight refuelling aircraft, or shorter ranged strike platforms.

    The Tu-22M3 operating from Syrian airfields would be much more effective at dropping very heavy loads on insurgent forces without burning a lot of fuel in the process.

    Bears based in Syria could carry a wide range of anti ship and anti sub weapons... if the US can base B-1Bs in Norway then Russia could base Bears and Backfires in Cuba or Venezuela, while keeping their actual strategic cruise missile carrying force within the boundaries and safety of Russia and the Russian IADS.

    Canada is not much better then the US, and has done some heinous acts. Canada had to pay a multimmillion $ settlement to a Canadian citizen for participating in his torture at GITMO. Of course all the rednecks here criticized the govt. Canada also illegally bombed Syria. Because of our large Ukranian  diaspora, including our deputy minister whos grandfather was an ex-ukranian nazi, we have a decidedly anti-russian approach. We also have a large Russian diaspora that tends to be pro russian in sports, but somewhat anti putin lol. While I would not want Putin as our PM, I do respect the man. But until Russia improves the quality of life of its people, it will continue to die a slow demographic death.


    I think the Bear is to valuable and unique a platform to give up. I keep hoping for Russia to come up with a more advanced development of its engines, thay have so much potential.


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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:25 pm

    You are too retarded to know quality of life in Russia.

    BTW, Russia has a larger birth rate than most western world. Gotta be that poor quality of life, eh? I guess Japan's quality of life is bad too.

    In Russia, you don't go bankrupt for medical. In US, you do every fucking time. But hey, they are viewed as growing population and best on earth. But their quality of life is shit

    You see, your narrative falls apart pretty easy.  You are an example of our absolute shit tier education system.

    Our Soros funded, multi colored sock, retarded monkey as a PM couldn't even match Putin in a butt wipe competition.  We don't deserve a Putin cause we are too busy shipping in terrorists from all over the world, while good hard working people from other countries can't get in because of quota bullshit.  We give billions in foreign aid yet our poverty rate is climbing drastically along the hardest - child poverty.

    So go get fucked.  You are a useless twat and an example of how stupid Canadians can be.

    You neither have experience nor any quality of opinion that matters.

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    Post  mnztr Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:41 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:You are too retarded to know quality of life in Russia.

    BTW, Russia has a larger birth rate than most western world. Gotta be that poor quality of life, eh? I guess Japan's quality of life is bad too.

    In Russia, you don't go bankrupt for medical. In US, you do every fucking time.  But hey, they are viewed as growing population and best on earth. But their quality of life is shit

    You see, your narrative falls apart pretty easy.  You are an example of our absolute shit tier education system.

    Our Soros funded, multi colored sock, retarded monkey as a PM couldn't even match Putin in a butt wipe competition.  We don't deserve a Putin cause we are too busy shipping in terrorists from all over the world, while good hard working people from other countries can't get in because of quota bullshit.  We give billions in foreign aid yet our poverty rate is climbing drastically along the hardest - child poverty.

    So go get fucked.  You are a useless twat and an example of how stupid Canadians can be.

    You neither have experience nor any quality of opinion that matters.


    Haha you are a complete moron. My girlfriend is a Russian from Moscow and was upper middle class there so I know a lot from her and her family. A high birth rate? Africa has a very high birth rate lol. If you think that is an indicator of a high standard of living you are truely an imbecile and by the sounds of it a complete racist. What is the instance of child poverty in Russia vs Canada? Do you even have any idea of what life is like outside the main centers of Moscow and St. Petersburg? How many people want to immigrate to Russia vs Canada and the USA? You are so dumb you don't even understand what dumb is. Russians are voting with their feet and the vast majority of young people wanna leave. Stick that fact down your moronic blowhole.

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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:53 pm

    Ah, I see you have the anecdotal evidence meme.  Proves you are a retard

    OK, so Russia is second to USA in terms of immigration.  Which is above Canada.

    https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/03/which-countries-have-the-most-immigrants-51048ff1f9/

    You were the retard talking about improving living standards for demographics to increase. I pointed out your false narrative of pointing out low birth rates vs high quality of life.

    Fuck you are retarded.  Your GF should find a better man, one who isnt a fucking moron.

    I have been to Russia and have family there BTW. So get fucked. You never went and the whole "my gf is from Moscow" doesn't fly. That argument is one of the worst I have ever read and is usually used as a meme. Like the "my uncle who works at Nintendo"
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:56 pm

    Can I respectfully suggest that you two tone it down or delete a few comments before Garry gives you holidays?
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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:57 pm

    No. I call out his bullshit and "anecdotal facts"

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    Post  mnztr Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:56 pm

    Haha, what does that have to do with anything? Its immigration PERCAPITA that matters. What is counted in Russian immigration stats? All the people moving from dirt poor Stans and Ukraine? People that Putin is giving passports to in Ukraine?

    Oh you went to Russia, but did not stay there lol. So it must be so wonderful. If Russias demographics are so rosy why did they increase the age of retirement? What about their life expectancy? Infant mortality rate? Once again you seem to have voted with your feet and yet you say things are so wonderful. You must be part of Pravda. lol


    Your family in Russia must be one of the rich ones while the majority grind away at the edges of poverty.

    I think your name is incomplete. It should be : Miketheterribleliar

    miketheterrible wrote:Ah, I see you have the anecdotal evidence meme.  Proves you are a retard

    OK, so Russia is second to USA in terms of immigration.  Which is above Canada.

    https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/03/which-countries-have-the-most-immigrants-51048ff1f9/

    You were the retard talking about improving living standards for demographics to increase. I pointed out your false narrative of pointing out low birth rates vs high quality of life.

    Fuck you are retarded.  Your GF should find a better man, one who isnt a fucking moron.

    I have been to Russia and have family there BTW. So get fucked.  You never went and the whole "my gf is from Moscow" doesn't fly.  That argument is one of the worst I have ever read and is usually used as a meme.  Like the "my uncle who works at Nintendo"

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    Post  mnztr Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:59 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Can I respectfully suggest that you two tone it down or delete a few comments before Garry gives you holidays?

    I didn't start it, but unfortunately got sucked in by someone who is clearly ill mannered, poorly raised and has an anger management issue.

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    Post  miketheterrible Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:08 am

    Nah, I just have a problem with losers who lie and rely on things like "my Russian gf says" nonsense. You know, I rely on facts to which I provided while conveniently, you provided none other than what your GF says.  We don't even know if you have a GF. But if she is real, she must have low standards.

    Loser

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    But this ain't the topic. So mods can do as they please. I'm done.

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    Post  kvs Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:00 am

    https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/RUS/russia/fertility-rate

    compare:

    https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/ESP/spain/fertility-rate

    https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/ESP/france/fertility-rate

    https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/ESP/germany/fertility-rate


    Russia has a higher TFR than the "rich" EU countries.

    Russian girlfriends are not a source of information. The ones that push west tend to be pro-west and anti-Russian.

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    Post  mnztr Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:48 am

    Ok so Equatorial Guinea has a higher TFR then Russia so based on your logic they are more advanced and have a higher standard of living then Russia? lol.

    Russia is aging, due to low birth rate. Life expectancy is low. Why did Russia increase the retirement age? Just to torture its citizens? Yeah my GF left Russia in 2015, I have met many, many Russians who left.

    53% of Russians 18-24 want to leave Russia:

    Moscow Times article

    So yeah, sorry to burst your bubble but 53% of your countrys future wants out. That is NOT coming from my GF although so many of her friends in Russia have left.


    kvs wrote:https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/RUS/russia/fertility-rate

    compare:

    https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/ESP/spain/fertility-rate

    https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/ESP/france/fertility-rate

    https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/ESP/germany/fertility-rate


    Russia has a higher TFR than the "rich" EU countries.

    Russian girlfriends are not a source of information.   The ones that push west tend to be pro-west and anti-Russian.

     
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    Post  mnztr Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:01 am

    miketheterrible wrote:Nah, I just have a problem with losers who lie and rely on things like "my Russian gf says" nonsense. You know, I rely on facts to which I provided while conveniently, you provided none other than what your GF says.  We don't even know if you have a GF. But if she is real, she must have low standards.

    Loser

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/138620/

    But this ain't the topic. So mods can do as they please. I'm done.

    haha maybe she does but she still would not date you lol.

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