Project 885: Yasen class #2

- 28.05.2022 ; K-573 "Novosibirsk" - exercises "Kumzha-2022"
Taken from the deck of the frigate "Admiral of the Soviet Union Gorshkov".

K-571 "Krasnoyarsk"

Alexander Mercouris stated on his daily vid (source) that the Russian defense ministry has announced an expansion to the submarine fleet - two more Pr 885Ms will be built, to bring the total to 11 units. Two more Borei's as well! Most excellent news if true

Anyone have a link to corroborating info?

Big_Gazza wrote:Alexander Mercouris stated on his daily vid (source) that the Russian defense ministry has announced an expansion to the submarine fleet - two more Pr 885Ms will be built, to bring the total to 11 units. Two more Borei's as well!  Most excellent news if true  

Anyone have a link to corroborating info?

Yes.

The source spoke about a possible increase in the number of nuclear submarines of a new generation

https://flotprom.ru/2022/%D0%A1%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%8810/

https://youtu.be/NBG9MWQfsG8

Interesting

Looks like Russia needs to study their reactor cooling system for the slightest of loose barriers. Btw this is why Russian subs have the SOKS non acoustic detection systems on their subs. If you have fine enough equipment it only requires a part in many many millions of radiological or other materials to detect something came by your path at sea.

As I said these failures are also learning experiences and will help to get Russia to tighten up whatever is allowing even the tiniest hot atom to get through. I'm guessing the the waste heat water system.

Attack - cruise missile submarine of the Northern Fleet K-560 "Severodvinsk"

09/29/2022
Lenta.ru

The characteristics of the Russian nuclear submarine project 885M "Yasen-M" are described




The nuclear submarine of project 885M "Yasen-M" differs from the previous version in greater manufacturability with a smaller number of crew, as well as versatility: it is capable of hitting both underwater, surface and ground targets. Alexey Leonkov, a weapons specialist, military expert, spoke about this in a conversation with Lenta.ru.

The first nuclear submarine of the Project 885M "Yasen-M" series "Novosibirsk" arrived at the place of its permanent deployment in Kamchatka. The Ministry of Defense reports that the submarine has already launched the Onyx anti-ship cruise missile at a sea target.
“The letter "M" in the name of the project means modernization. Its peculiarity lies, first of all, in the fact that the new submarine differs from the lead one in size and has a smaller crew: 90 versus 65. The missing members are replaced by a modern combat information and control system, which takes on many functions and facilitates combat work, ” Leonkov said.

Also, according to the expert, the launchers can accommodate 40 Kalibr cruise missiles, as well as 36 Onyx and hypersonic Zircon missiles. Plus ten torpedo tubes.


“The torpedo attack is also not cancelled. For a long time, it will remain an effective weapon that allows you to hit enemy ships, the specialist emphasized. - A total of eight submarines are planned to be produced in the series, which will be released in accordance with the schedule. Modernization made it possible to make them more compact and slow-moving, while increasing firepower and making them universal.”
Leonkov concluded that the new submarine can hit both underwater and surface and ground targets. It has become more versatile and modern.
Earlier it became known that the US leadership is negotiating to accelerate the supply of nuclear submarines to the Australian Navy in response to the growing military power of China.


https://vpk.name/news/635853_opisany_harakteristiki_rossiiskoi_atomnoi_podvodnoi_lodki_proekta_885m_yasen.html

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My opinion is therefore not authoritative and is not part of the text;
The text is sparse, amateurish, but the text openly mentions 40 Kalibr missiles. We all know that these submarines have 8 silos, but there was constant speculation as to whether one silo could hold 4 or 5 Kalibr missiles or 3 to 4 Onyx or Zircon missiles. This part with "36" Onyx or Zircon projectiles is not clear to me, so I would rather go with that variant if it were 32 projectiles, that is 8 X 4.

02.11.2022
TASS

Sevmash reported on tests of the Krasnoyarsk multi-purpose nuclear submarine


Missile cruiser of the fourth generation "Krasnoyarsk".
Image source: RIA Novosti / Pavel Lvov

Also, the general director of the enterprise, Mikhail Budnichenko, spoke about the completion in 2022 of testing the nuclear submarine of project 09852 "Belgorod"

MOSCOW, 1 November. /TASS/. The second serial multi-purpose nuclear submarine (NPS) of project 885M "Krasnoyarsk" is being tested at sea. Mikhail Budnichenko, general director of the Northern Machine-Building Enterprise (Sevmash, part of the United Shipbuilding Corporation), told TASS about this.

"This year, tests of the research nuclear submarine of project 09852 Belgorod have been completed, which have already been handed over to the customer. The nuclear submarine strategic missile cruiser of project 955A Generalissimo Suvorov is being prepared for transfer, tests are underway at sea of the multi-purpose nuclear submarine of project 885M Krasnoyarsk, - he said.

On June 27, a TASS source reported that the Krasnoyarsk nuclear submarine entered factory sea trials in the White Sea for the first time.

"Krasnoyarsk" - the second serial submarine, the third ship of project 885M ("Ash-M"). The submarine was laid down in 2014 and launched on July 30, 2021. Project 885M nuclear submarines were developed by the St. Petersburg Marine Engineering Bureau "Malachite". The lead submarine of Project 885M Kazan was handed over to the Russian Navy on May 7, 2021. The main strike weapons of Project 885/885M submarines are Kalibr-PL and Oniks cruise missiles.

On October 28, the Board of Directors of JSC "PO" Sevmash "at a meeting held in St. Petersburg extended the powers of the General Director of the enterprise Budnichenko for another five years. Chairman of the Board of Directors Vladimir Korolev noted the effective and dynamic development of the enterprise under his leadership. Budnichenko heads the shipyard already 10 years.

https://vpk.name/news/648828_v_sevmashe_soobshili_ob_ispytaniyah_mnogocelevoi_atomnoi_podlodki_krasnoyarsk.html

MIL.PRESS FLOT
24 November 2022 at 8:14 Subject: Industry

Source: "Sevmash" will give the Navy two nuclear-powered ships "under the Christmas tree"

The Project 955A (Borey-A) nuclear-powered strategic missile submarine Generalissimus Suvorov and the Project 885M (Yasen-M) multi-purpose nuclear submarine Krasnoyarsk, built at Sevmash, can be handed over to the Russian Navy on New Year's Eve. On Thursday, November 24, TASS was informed by a source close to the military department.


Generalissimus Suvorov
Image; Sevmash

"According to existing plans, traditionally, the transfer of two submarines - Generalissimo Suvorov and Krasnoyarsk - can take place under the Christmas tree, that is, in the third decade of December," he said.

According to the interlocutor of the agency, the transfer of two nuclear submarines to the Pacific Fleet is scheduled for the summer of 2023.

“First, the inter-fleet crossing along the Northern Sea Route will be made by the Generalissimo Suvorov, then the Krasnoyarsk will go. According to existing practice, such transitions are carried out accompanied by groups of ships of the Northern and Pacific Fleets in their areas of responsibility,” he noted.

TASS has no official comments on this matter.

Generalissimo Suvorov is the second serial (third in a row) Project 955A strategic missile submarine. It was laid down at Sevmash in December 2014. The exit ceremony from the boathouse took place at the end of December 2021. In July of this year, it was reported that the submarine for the first time left the territory of Sevmash for factory sea trials in the White Sea.

In addition to the Generalissimo Suvorov, four more Borea-A ships are being built at Sevmash - Emperor Alexander III, Prince Pozharsky, Dmitry Donskoy and Prince Potemkin.

Currently, the Russian Navy has three submarines of the basic project 955 "Borey" ("Yuri Dolgoruky", "Vladimir Monomakh" and "Alexander Nevsky"), as well as two submarines of the modernized project 955A ("Prince Vladimir" and "Prince Oleg" ). Each Project 955/955A submarine is armed with 16 Bulava solid-propellant intercontinental ballistic missiles. Nuclear-powered ships are also equipped with 533-mm torpedo tubes.

"Krasnoyarsk" is the second serial (third in a row) nuclear submarine of the modernized project 885M (code "Ash-M"). The submarine was laid down in 2014 and launched in July 2021. Five more Project 885M submarines are on the stocks of Sevmash at different stages of construction: Arkhangelsk, Perm, Ulyanovsk, Vladivostok and Voronezh.

Two Yasen-Ms, Kazan and Novosibirsk, have been serving in the Russian Navy since last year.

On Project 885 submarines, for the first time in domestic shipbuilding, torpedo tubes were placed not on the bow, but behind the central post compartment. "Ash" is armed with cruise missiles "Onyx" and "Caliber", homing 533-mm torpedoes. In the future, they will also be able to use Zirkon hypersonic anti-ship missiles.


https://flot.com/2022/%D0%A1%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%8820/


SO BOTH SUBMARINES WILL BE DELIVERED IN THE THIRD DECADE OF DECEMBER AND WILL SAIL FOR THE PACIFIC OCEAN DURING THE NEXT SUMMER..  

January 5, 01:31,
updated January 5, 01:37
New equipment of the RF Armed Forces

The Russian Navy will receive the "Perm" nuclear submarine with hypersonic Zircons in 2026
Before that, at the end of 2024 or the beginning of 2025, the nuclear submarine will be tested, the source said.

MOSCOW, 5 January. /TASS/. The first regular carrier of the underwater version of the newest hypersonic missile "Zircon" - nuclear submarine (NPS) "Perm" of project 885M (code "Ash-M") - will be transferred to the Navy of the Russian Federation in 2026. This was reported to TASS by a source close to the military department.

“The transfer of the Perm submarine with Zircons to the fleet is scheduled for 2026. Before that, at the end of 2024 or the beginning of 2025, the nuclear submarine will be tested,” he said.
TASS does not have official confirmation of this information.
On October 4, 2021, the Severodvinsk Project 885 submarine for the first time performed test launches of Zircon missiles from the surface and underwater positions in the White Sea.

The nuclear submarine "Perm" is the sixth submarine of the Yasen family of projects 885/885M, the construction of which is carried out by the Sevmash Production Association (part of the United Shipbuilding Corporation). The nuclear submarines Severodvinsk, Kazan and Novosibirsk are in service with the Russian Navy. As a TASS source previously reported, it is the Perm among the Project 885M nuclear submarines that will become the first regular carrier of the Zircons, and in connection with their adoption, this submarine will structurally differ slightly from its predecessors, which are carriers of the Onyx and Kalibr missiles. PL".

https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/16742515


This is my opinion that has nothing to do with the text and is therefore not authoritative;
If the text says that the tests of the submarine will probably start next year, it means that the submarine will be launched in 2024. Submarine "Perm" is a submarine that follows the submarines K-571 "Krasnoyarsk" and K-564 "Arkhangelsk".
The process from launching to commissioning is twice as long for the 885M submarines as for the 955A submarines. I think it's more a matter of priorities for the Russian Navy, although the 885M submarines are more expensive to build than the 955A submarines.

WTF is a regular zirkon carrier. Every single vessel with UKSK should carry zirkons regularly.

limb Today at 1:31 pm
WTF is a regular zirkon carrier. Every single vessel with UKSK should carry zirkons regularly.

The military industrial complex plays with journalists who report what they are told in the military industrial complex.
It was written in previous years that "Admiral Golovko" will be the first regular (serial) carrier of "Zircon" missiles, although we already know that "Admiral Gorshkov" sailed towards the Mediterranean with "Zircons" in its UKSK.

Podlodka77 wrote:
If the text says that the tests of the submarine will probably start next year, it means that the submarine will be launched in 2024. Submarine "Perm" is a submarine that follows the submarines K-571 "Krasnoyarsk" and K-564 "Arkhangelsk".
The process from launching to commissioning is twice as long for the 885M submarines as for the 955A submarines. I think it's more a matter of priorities for the Russian Navy, although the 885M submarines are more expensive to build than the 955A submarines.

I think the question is MoD will give priority to Khabarovsk and Ulyanovsk, which are nuclear deterrent weapons.

This is:
2023 Krasnoyarsk (soon) and ArKhangelsk (in december)
2024 Khabarovsk
2025 Ulyanovsk
2026 Perm
2027 Voronezh
2028 Vladivostok

To AMCXXL;

This is:
2023 Krasnoyarsk (soon) and ArKhangelsk (in december)
2024 Khabarovsk
2025 Ulyanovsk
2026 Perm
2027 Voronezh
2028 Vladivostok

Although the process from launching to commissioning was drastically reduced for the 955A submarines, this did not happen with the 885M submarines.
With 955A submarines, that period is reduced to one year, while with 885M submarines it lasts 2 years.
If there is no improvement like with the 955A submarines, then add one to 2 years to all the deadlines you wrote.
I agree with K-571 "Krasnoyarsk" and I also think that this submarine will be put into service this year. It has already been a year and a half since "Krasnoyarsk" was launched. If the next K-564 "Arkhangelsk" is launched soon, then there is reason to hope that it will be put into service, but in 2024 - NOT EARLIER.

Podlodka77 wrote:Although the process from launching to commissioning was drastically reduced for the 955A submarines, this did not happen with the 885M submarines.
With 955A submarines, that period is reduced to one year, while with 885M submarines it lasts 2 years.
If there is no improvement like with the 955A submarines, then add one to 2 years to all the deadlines you wrote.
I agree with K-571 "Krasnoyarsk" and I also think that this submarine will be put into service this year. It has already been a year and a half since "Krasnoyarsk" was launched. If the next K-564 "Arkhangelsk" is launched soon, then there is reason to hope that it will be put into service, but in 2024 - NOT EARLIER.

Well, the certification and testing process is something that has nothing to do with production, they are different things and I don't see why it can't be done at the same time for the 885 as for the 955.
In fact the factory testing process for the Krasnoyarsk started a month before the Generalissimus Suvorov, but for some reason it has not yet been transferred for Navy acceptance testing. Maybe it's a matter of priorities

According to information that I read somewhere, it is a question of organization of the process, in the White Sea (which freezes in winter) the shipyard factory tests are carried out, while the Navy acceptance tests are in the Sea of Barents which remains free of ice.
If the process were streamlined, according to that information several months would be gained. The delay in finishing the tests in Sevedordvinsk seems to be that it postpones the tests for the next session in spring

There is also the issue of the number of submarines that must be tested, not only the 955 and 885, they are also waiting for the 677, the 971M (the Leopard was launched two years ago), at least one Victor III, in addition to new frigates

If there is too much work, there may not be enough personnel to test all those ships, you also have to know if there are crews trained for them, since those who go to the Pacific Fleet must receive a new crew, since there were very few submarines in the Pacific and those received increase the number of submarines and therefore the total number of personnel needed

In any case, Krasnoyarsk is almost ready for delivery and I don't see why Arkhangelsk could not be delivered in December if it is launched at the beginning of the year and is tested normally in the second half of 2023.

This is my favorite section of the forum and the news I would like is the start of the construction of two more 885M submarines as well as the final launch of the K-564 "Arkhangelsk" submarine.

KRASNOYARSK

K-561 Kazan

Nothing, absolutely no news...
I am already sure that all the submarines will not be finished even by 2030..
Arkhangelsk has been under construction for over 8 years and has not been launched, Perm has been under construction for almost 7 years, while Ulyanovsk is approaching its 6th year of construction.
And the WORST part is that no keels have been laid for the new 885M submarines since fucking July 2020 and there is no indication that this will happen anytime soon.

And yes, no news for fucking Krasnoyarsk either..



I only hope for one thing, and that is that after the launch of the K-XXX Imperator Alexander III, which will almost certainly happen this year, the next three could be the K-564 Arkhangelsk, K-XXX Perm and K-XXX Ulyanovsk submarines.
The reason for this is that the 9th (Knyaz Potemkin) and 10th Borei-A (Dmitry Donskoy) have only been under construction since August 2021 and there is still a lot of work to be done on them.