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UN chief urges WHO to approve Sputnik V, calls Russian Covid jab ‘one of key elements’ in solving global vaccination problem. 12.5.2021

The United Nations would welcome the World Health Organization’s approval of Russia’s Sputnik V Covid-19 vaccine, UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres has said, while hailing the importance of the jab in tackling the pandemic.

The UN believes that “Sputnik V is one the key elements that will allow us to solve the vaccination problem,” Guterres said following talks with Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov in Moscow on Wednesday.

Guterres also said that he’s aware that WHO’s process to approve the vaccine is “ongoing”.

The Russian Direct Investment Fund (RDIF), which distributes the vaccine, had filed for accelerated registration of Sputnik V by the WHO in October last year.

However, the UN health agency still hasn’t approved the Russian jab, despite its high efficacy of over 91% in trials, lack of significant side effects, and praise from the international scientific community. Research published in renowned British medical journal The Lancet earlier this year found Sputnik V was “safe and effective,” with all of the trial participants developing Covid-fighting antibodies and none suffering serious side effects.

On Tuesday, the UN chief said that the WHO could greenlight Sputnik V as soon as June or July.

Guterres also thanked Russia for providing UN staff with an opportunity to be vaccinated with Sputnik V. “This is a very good sign,” he said. The offer to allocate these free doses of the jab came from Russia’s President Vladimir Putin last year. Many UN employees in Russia have already received the jab, but its wider use by the organization requires approval from the WHO.

Lavrov noted that Sputnik V has already been registered in more than 60 countries around the globe, with most of those having already received their first shipments of doses.

“We're open to working with other vaccine makers, which we’ve stressed many times already,” the foreign minister said of proposals for boosting production of the Russian-developed jab. If foreign pharma companies show a similar interest, it could lead to “a very positive cooperation,” he added.

https://www.rt.com/russia/523652-un-sputnik-covid-who-lavrov/

https://mronline.org/2021/05/13/medical-apartheid-from-israel-palestine-to-canada/

Medical Apartheid: From Israel/Palestine to Canada

Independent Jewish Voice Canada (IJV) has applauded Human Rights Watch and B’Tselem for declaring Israel an apartheid state in its treatment of Palestinians. However, neither organization included medical apartheid in its charges. Though their statements were reported worldwide, the publicly funded Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC) refuses to publish any information critical of Israel.

On Feb 16 2021, Democracy Now reported that Israel has halted the shipment of 2,000 doses of COVID-19 vaccine to the Gaza Strip, where they were due for medical workers. “The besieged territory is home to more than two million people but has yet to receive any vaccine. This comes as Israeli health officials reported a nearly 95% drop in symptomatic coronavirus infections among 600,000 Israelis who received Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine. About 30% of Israeli citizens have received at least one vaccine dose–the highest rate of any major nation–but that figure excludes Palestinians in the Occupied Territories who remain largely unvaccinated.”

As of March 25, 2021, the number of vaccines received by the Palestinian people represents only a ‘drop in the sea’. The UN reports: “After recent annual consultations with Member States, the United Nations Special Committee to Investigate Israeli Practices today expressed deep concern over reports that Israel, while donating surplus COVID-19 vaccines overseas, has failed to fulfill its international legal responsibility and obligation to ensure the vaccination of the Palestinian population.” Israel sent vaccines to Guatemala and Honduras–two countries that moved their embassies to Jerusalem.

According to Ha’aretz, additional vaccine doses will allow Israel to provide booster shots to the entire population through 2022.

Israel’s vaccine data: 53.5% of population fully vaccinated. As of April, 3% of Palestinians have been vaccinated. The population of Israel/Palestine is approximately equally divided, with 5.5 million Palestinians living in the West Bank, Gaza, and within Israel’s green line. The Gaza Strip has received only about 120,000 vaccine doses. In the West Bank, most ICUs are at 100% capacity. Non-intensive hospital beds are at 97% capacity.

In Gaza, Israel controls the import of everything through closures of land, sea, and air borders. As of March 2020 there has been a dire shortage of health facilities, medicine (deficit of 45% drugs, 31% med supplies, 65% lab and blood bank), and PPE. As of April 7, 2021, Gaza has its highest daily number of infections since the start of the pandemic, with a positivity rate as of 4/21 at 43%.

Daily infection rates are now surpassing 2,000 new cases every 24 hours; a significant portion of the new cases are being traced to newer, more deadly variants, including the British variant.

Vann7 wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
I got vaccinated with Sputnik but now I'm sorry I didn't pick Pfizer just to have another thing to punk Vann and rest of antivaxxer crew with...

im aware you love to attack the messenger ,specially when you have zero arguments , to debate.


So i have a question..  wondering if you will dare to answer it.

is Alexander Gintsburg the director of gamaleya institute (sputnik v creator) also antivaxxer too ?



Alexander Gintsburg

sputnik creator contradict you. mRNA are not safe vaccines  .

because this is what he recently told about west mRNA "safe vaccines"

Would Sputnik V stand any chance of having its positive features objectively praised at the Washington institution? Unlikely. told Alexander Gintsburg, head of the research institution which developed the Sputnik V vaccine, was justified when he said:


“I can say that it’s absolutely unclear how all this was evaluated , given the high mortality rate associated with mRNA vaccines”.

article link...  --->
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/523227-moderna-best-vaccine-award/

So is alexander gintsburg an antivaxxer too ?  

high mortality rate associated with mRNA vaccines”.

did you need a drawing to understand what he says ?

high   mortality   rates  associated      with    mRNA  vaccines..

So which part you don't understand , that western mRNA vaccines pfizer ,moderna are
DANGEROUS  ???????    

So Everyone have seen how @Papadragon and those others that defends mRNA vaccines like Moderna and Pfizer ,literary runs away from debates ,when confronted with inconvenient facts.  
it remember me the report of Paid trolls in internet ,do exist ,to deceive population...  RT even made a report about it..  

can't find the original report , but this is another link.



Actors ,trolls , hired to manipulate people opinion on the internet...
They do exist , and they are hired to deceive people through social media .
Usually they interfere a lot in the most sensitive topics , like nasa fake moon landing discussions,
world trade center 911 inside job- false flag , and the next defending mRNA vaccines.

"Today is a historical day": India starts vaccination with Sputnik V.

The Russian vaccine has turned out to be the first foreign manufactured vaccine to be employed in this country and will start to be part of the world's largest vaccination campaign.

https://actualidad.rt.com/actualidad/392120-vacuna-sputnik-india-rusia.

according to anthony faucci abit more than half of the federal government health industry ,
vaccinated with mRNA vaccines. Suggesting the enormous lack of trust on their own government and pharma industry.  A similar problem happening in the US armed forced, close to half refusing
pfizer and moderna mRNA vaccines.

https://www.infowars.com/posts/watch-fauci-admits-only-a-little-more-than-half-of-niaid-fda-cdc-employees-took-covid-jab/



So much for "safe vaccines" , that even the federal health industry ,the ones that are responsible
to protect the nation from covid19 ,have so many "antivaxxers" themselves.. why would that be?

Not so much about intelligence and probably more to do with trust.

PapaDragon wrote:

franco wrote:Russia's challenge in getting Russians to get vaccinated...

42% of Russians do not want to be vaccinated against Covid-19 ‘under ANY circumstances,’ even to enable travel abroad, says survey...

Any more fanboys here wanna tell me again how Russians are super smart and shit?

Why should it be so strange?

While the covid19 flu can have bad consequences, especially in people with some problematic conditions, a lot of the people who died of covid (at least in Italy) were not even treated. I do not know about the official policies of other countries, but in Italy if you have covid the doctors are only giving you paracetamol and waiting until it is too late (tachipirina e vigile attesa) for you, and then if you do not heal on your own they will bring you to the hospital once the situation is already compromised.

It is like getting a dire illness in the middle ages.

In Italy last year a few doctors managed to save many people by actually treating their (covid) patients already in their houses, (and prescribing some basic medicines available in any pharmacy) preventing (or at least mitigating) the worsening of the conditions. And some of these doctors were considered heretics because of this (basically because they were the only ones that were true to their profession and vocation) and threatened to be kicked out from professional registration as medical doctors.

It is like they want to convince everyone that vaccines are the only way out. They are not. They can be a way to protect the old and weak part of the population, but they cannot be imposed on the whole of the population.

Especially since all the covid vaccines used now are experimental threatmens which side effects are often more dangerous and frequent than the virus itself on people that are young and healthy.

All COVID-19 vaccines used in EU and in the US were approved by the US FDA or by the European Medicine agency under an emergency use authorization without long term safety data.

I find also highly unethical that the pharmaceutical industries can commercialise (and make a lot of money from them) experimental threatmens tested only for about 3 months.

Furthermore they have not been tested for long and there may be long term risk associated with them (especially mRNA vaccines).

From a scientific and development point of view they are interesting, but both types available until now (viral carrier like astrazeneca, Johnson & Johnson and Sputnik V and mRNA vaccines like Pfizer/Biontech and Moderna) scare me a bit of since they basically turn many cells in the body into production factories for a part of the virus (the famous "spike" proteine).
It has been proven that this proteine itself is toxic for the body even without the rest of the virus, and it is the one responsible for blood clots, so the vaccine may be more dangerous on this point, as it can cause blood clots in different part of the body, including in the brain.

Apparently Sputnik V presents less side effects than the others, but the mechanisms that the vaccine uses is similar:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/viralvector.html


First, the vector (not the virus that causes COVID-19, but a different, harmless virus) will enter a cell in our body and then use the cell’s machinery to produce a [b]harmless piece of the virus that causes COVID-19. This piece is known as a spike protein and it is only found on the surface[b] of the virus that causes COVID-19.

Next, the cell displays the spike protein on its surface, and our immune system recognizes it doesn’t belong there. This triggers our immune system to begin producing antibodies and activating other immune cells to fight off what it thinks is an infection.


This description is not correct since the "harmless" part  is not harmless at all.

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCRESAHA.121.318902


https://www.genengnews.com/news/sars-cov-2s-spike-protein-can-enter-the-brain-in-mice/


Furthermore it has been theorised the risk of autoimmune diseas associated with those kinds of vaccines.

There are also several open questions about other long term consequences of mRNA (and possibly also of viral vector) vaccines but until we have more data we cannot know for sure about it.

One of the risk is also possible brain diseases
https://www.technocracy.news/study-mrna-based-vaccines-and-the-risk-of-prion-disease/


Anyway I have no intention to be a guinea pig for an experimental treatment which long term consequences are unknown.

For me it would be like being forced to fly on a new type of uncertified and untested helicopter, with my whole family, after it only received an experimental permit to fly (that is basically only an authorisation to do flight tests in area far away from the population).
In addition with the risk that I could have consequences for my health also a few years after the event.

If I was afflicted with a terminal illness that left me only s few months to live, and the treatment would have me instead some chances of living, I would maybe consider the risk, but not for the Covid19.

The third vaccine being developed in Russia seems less problematic.

I do not know how the second Russian vaccine works exactly (it is a peptide base vaccine, another promising (but untested) technology, but the third vaccine is a classic whole virus vaccine (where they will probably use a weakened or inactivated (and unable to replicate) covid19  virus) , so it should be a proven technology.

P.S.
I do not like at all when I hear representatives from Pfizer calling their vaccine a "platform"... Basically they consider human body like a machine and the vaccine as a piece of software


Note:
I have done all the vaccines that I needed to do until now and last year I did the tetanus vaccine booster (since it was at least ten years since my last tetanus vaccination).
I know that all vaccines may have side effects, but at least until now I have done those that were really important to prevent dangerous diseases and that were tested and used for a long time (so I was (or my parents were, when I was a child) aware of the risk of long term consequences associated with them)

JohninMK wrote:

I am curious about this chart. Big time suspicious about the claims.

miketheterrible wrote:

I am curious about this chart.  Big time suspicious about the claims.

These are the source links, the chart seems to have come from the WSJ.

https://twitter.com/KarlreMarks/status/1394635521838682113

https://twitter.com/OliverStuenkel/status/1394632970636562434

Who below the age of 70 ends up in a hospital due to the COVID1984 flu anyway?

As can be seen in countless statistics, the risks of vaccine injury by far outweigh the risk of serious COVID flu implications for any demographic that is not morbidly obese or in the winter or their lives already

That's short term implications only. Who knows what long term consequences could be - the average vaccine is developed in 8-15 years, and those checks and balances exist for a reason.

All your points have been disproven countless times already yet you keep on spouting them like a zealot on a mission - with the only 'argument' usually being personal attacks and easily refutable nonsense about hospital beds and economic drains on society

The third vaccine being developed in Russia seems less problematic.

I do not know how the second Russian vaccine works exactly (it is a peptide base vaccine, another promising (but untested) technology, but the third vaccine is a classic whole virus vaccine (where they will probably use a weakened or inactivated (and unable to replicate) covid19 virus) , so it should be a proven technology.

Doesn't really follow that newer vaccines will be better...

AFAIK none of the Russian vaccines use the brand new experimental vaccine technology the western companies are using, but all three Russian vaccines are using normal vaccine technology and go through all the same tests and procedures to make sure they are safe for use with humans.

Because of the urgency of the situations the Sputnik V vaccine was fast tracked for emergency use for those likely to die from getting the virus, but it has since passed all the normal tests and has proven both to be very effective and also to have limited or no serious side effects in any gender or age group tests.

Those with all the conspiracy theories... what if they are all bottled in the same factory and are all made the same with the same technology and ingredients and they are just pretending to be different to pretend to be more advanced in the case of western vaccines... they put coca cola or pepsi labels on the different vials but they are all essentially the same... if you have one you are not going to have a different one as well so whether it works or it kills you it can only be speculation about which is actually best, and a thorough examination of who gets killed and why would be needed to determine which you should take or if there is none that you could take where you would survive.

This pandemic will end eventually because everyone will either get vaccinated or eventually they will catch it, and the combined total of virus and vaccine kills together wont be any higher than 3% which is a lot of people but not high enough to slow down the world wide human population growth let alone stop or reverse it.