Good. And Russian vaccines have the support of science behind them.RDIF announced the possible registration of "Sputnik V" in the EU by the end of summer
16.06.2021
The Russian vaccine against coronavirus Sputnik V may receive registration in the European Union (EU) within two months, the European Medicines Agency (EMA) has provided a positive review, and the information about the delays is not true, follows from the commentary of the press service of the Russian Direct Investment Fund (RDIF).
The Foundation stated that “all data on the clinical trials of Sputnik V have been provided, the GCP (good clinical practice) inspection has been completed and a positive review has been received from the European Medicines Agency (EMA). ", Reports RIA Novosti.
They also emphasized that the information of Reuters that the approval of the vaccine in the EU will allegedly be delayed due to missing the deadline for the submission of information is not true.
The RDIF stressed that the timing of Sputnik V's receipt of the EMA registration "has become an object of constant speculation by the press, referring to anonymous sources of information."
“These speculations have nothing to do with reality and slow down the registration process. RDIF and the Gamaleya Center continue to work with the EMA as part of a rolling review of the registration dossier, which involves the gradual submission of documents upon request. The examination continues, there is no talk of any delays, ”the Foundation also noted.
"Although the decision on the timing of the procedure is the prerogative of the EMA, the Sputnik V team expects to receive a vaccine registration within two months," they added.
We will remind, EMA during the study of the Russian vaccine against coronavirus "Sputnik V" did not reveal any criticism. Malta's Foreign and European Affairs Minister Evarist Bartolo said the EMA could register the Russian Sputnik V coronavirus vaccine by the end of June.
Registration of the Russian vaccine "Sputnik V" in the EU countries is delayed due to "signals from high offices" in Brussels, said Director of the Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) Sergei Naryshkin. He called such behavior immoral in a pandemic.
Text: Natalia Anufrieva
https://m.vz.ru/news/2021/6/16/1104367.html
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Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 #3
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Sixty percent of working Muscovites must receive coronavirus vaccine by July 15 - city's chief public health official
MOSCOW. June 16 (Interfax) - Sixty percent of working Muscovites will be compelled to receive a first shot of coronavirus vaccine by July 15, Moscow chief public health official Yelena Andreyeva said.
"To organize the administration of the first vaccine shot or the single-shot vaccine before July 15, 2021 and the administration of the second shot of a coronavirus vaccine that has received state registration in Russia before August 8, 2021 for at least 60% of the total number of employees, workers," the city's branch of consumer health watchdog Rospotrebnadzor quoted Andreyeva as saying.
This concerns stores, beauty parlors, public catering establishments, the front offices of financial institutions, transport and public utility enterprises, and healthcare, educational, social protection, cultural, entertainment, and sports establishments.
Vaccination is also prescribed for civil and municipal servants.
https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/72039/
NOTE: a start
MOSCOW. June 16 (Interfax) - Sixty percent of working Muscovites will be compelled to receive a first shot of coronavirus vaccine by July 15, Moscow chief public health official Yelena Andreyeva said.
"To organize the administration of the first vaccine shot or the single-shot vaccine before July 15, 2021 and the administration of the second shot of a coronavirus vaccine that has received state registration in Russia before August 8, 2021 for at least 60% of the total number of employees, workers," the city's branch of consumer health watchdog Rospotrebnadzor quoted Andreyeva as saying.
This concerns stores, beauty parlors, public catering establishments, the front offices of financial institutions, transport and public utility enterprises, and healthcare, educational, social protection, cultural, entertainment, and sports establishments.
Vaccination is also prescribed for civil and municipal servants.
https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/72039/
NOTE: a start
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Doesn't look good.
Moscow’s mayor warns Covid situation in the city is 'dramatic' with more than 12,000 hospitalised and new strains proving to be 58% more resistant to Sputnik V vaccine
- Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin warned the Covid situation in city is 'dramatic'
- He ordered mandatory vaccinations for residents working in the service industry
- The city announced a further 5,782 cases with more than 12,000 hospitalised
- New variants are up to 58% more resistant to country's main vaccine Sputnik V
- Sobyanin said just 1.8m of Moscow's 12m residents had been inoculated
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9692365/Moscows-mayor-warns-Covid-situation-city-dramatic-12-000-hospitalised.html
Moscow’s mayor warns Covid situation in the city is 'dramatic' with more than 12,000 hospitalised and new strains proving to be 58% more resistant to Sputnik V vaccine
- Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin warned the Covid situation in city is 'dramatic'
- He ordered mandatory vaccinations for residents working in the service industry
- The city announced a further 5,782 cases with more than 12,000 hospitalised
- New variants are up to 58% more resistant to country's main vaccine Sputnik V
- Sobyanin said just 1.8m of Moscow's 12m residents had been inoculated
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9692365/Moscows-mayor-warns-Covid-situation-city-dramatic-12-000-hospitalised.html
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Slow & steady: on Tuesday 15, Brazilian Health Watchdog authorized Sputnik V imports for additional 7 states, plus 6 of them received previous authorization. This means that a total of 1.520.000 doses are to be imported.
It should be reminded that initially the Brazilian government suffered pressure from Washington so as to avoid Russian vaccines.
https://br.sputniknews.com/brasil/2021061617662209-importacao-excepcional-da-vacina-sputnik-v-autorizada-para-mais-7-estados-pela-anvisa/
It should be reminded that initially the Brazilian government suffered pressure from Washington so as to avoid Russian vaccines.
https://br.sputniknews.com/brasil/2021061617662209-importacao-excepcional-da-vacina-sputnik-v-autorizada-para-mais-7-estados-pela-anvisa/
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JohninMK wrote:Doesn't look good.
Moscow’s mayor warns Covid situation in the city is 'dramatic' with more than 12,000 hospitalised and new strains proving to be 58% more resistant to Sputnik V vaccine
- Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin warned the Covid situation in city is 'dramatic'
- He ordered mandatory vaccinations for residents working in the service industry
- The city announced a further 5,782 cases with more than 12,000 hospitalised
- New variants are up to 58% more resistant to country's main vaccine Sputnik V
- Sobyanin said just 1.8m of Moscow's 12m residents had been inoculated
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9692365/Moscows-mayor-warns-Covid-situation-city-dramatic-12-000-hospitalised.html
Hysterical spin. Not surprising from the Daily Fail. The number of 58% is meaningless since it insinuates that Sputnik V is now
42% x 92% = 39% effective against SARS-CoV-2, which is total BS. The "more resistant" metric is not defined, thus worthless.
So Moscow has 12,000 Covid-19 patients. Shock Horror. Recall that there are several thousand new cases per day in Moscow.
The Moscow hospitals should be overflowing.
https://www.interfax.ru/moscow/772227
Moscow has 16,000 beds reserved for Covid-19 patients as of June 15, 2021. According to the hysterical propaganda this
must be more than the total real capacity of Moscow hospitals. For anyone with a clue, this is clearly diversionary propaganda
intended to launder the pathetic performance of the super-rich west to handle Covid-19. The UK is still forcing a lockdown
regime even though it is not experiencing anything like Russia today. A key reason given is to reduced the burden on UK
hospitals.
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https://moh.gov.vn/tin-noi-bat/-/asset_publisher/3Yst7YhbkA5j/content/bo-y-te-am-phan-voi-cong-hoa-cuba-ve-hop-tac-san-xuat-vac-xin-phong-covid-19
Brief translation:
Representatives of Vietnam and Cuba have met for future cooperation between the two countries in technology transfer and production of Cuba's domestic covid-19 vaccines.
Cuba informed that they can manufacture 100 million doses of Abdala vaccines a year and they only need 30 million for domestic use.
The Cuba representatives expressed their will to assist Vietnam, and Cuba proposed to up-scale their production to meet Vietnam's need if the situation is essential. (I love you, Cuba).
Phase III trial of Abdala vaccine was registered on 18 March 2021. The first dose was administered on 22 March and by April 4, the 48,000 participants had received their first dose.
Brief translation:
Representatives of Vietnam and Cuba have met for future cooperation between the two countries in technology transfer and production of Cuba's domestic covid-19 vaccines.
Cuba informed that they can manufacture 100 million doses of Abdala vaccines a year and they only need 30 million for domestic use.
The Cuba representatives expressed their will to assist Vietnam, and Cuba proposed to up-scale their production to meet Vietnam's need if the situation is essential. (I love you, Cuba).
Phase III trial of Abdala vaccine was registered on 18 March 2021. The first dose was administered on 22 March and by April 4, the 48,000 participants had received their first dose.
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JohninMK wrote:Doesn't look good.
Moscow’s mayor warns Covid situation in the city is 'dramatic' with more than 12,000 hospitalised and new strains proving to be 58% more resistant to Sputnik V vaccine
- Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin warned the Covid situation in city is 'dramatic'
- He ordered mandatory vaccinations for residents working in the service industry
- The city announced a further 5,782 cases with more than 12,000 hospitalised
- New variants are up to 58% more resistant to country's main vaccine Sputnik V
- Sobyanin said just 1.8m of Moscow's 12m residents had been inoculated
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9692365/Moscows-mayor-warns-Covid-situation-city-dramatic-12-000-hospitalised.html
Morons chasing that Darwin Award
And these cretins wonder why the state does not let them have a say in every single thing of importance, they are literally too stupid to live
Hopefully bolded part is a first step toward nation wide mandatory vaccination, should have been done from day 1
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At least with Sputnik V, the vaccine is not the primary killer by far.
But there should be testing for existing exposure to Covid-19 before giving a vaccine. If you have Covid-19 antibodies, then you
do not need a vaccine.
But there should be testing for existing exposure to Covid-19 before giving a vaccine. If you have Covid-19 antibodies, then you
do not need a vaccine.
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exposing the corruption of the western covid19 narrative.. now is official.
the west lies about covid19.
American journalist working at Fox news , speak and expose the corruption and censorship
happening in american media , including her former employer , for censorship against
any story ,that offers an alternative to american citizens to american vaccines..
Rogue ex-Fox 26 reporter accuses station of bias & self-censorship to please advertisers
https://www.rt.com/usa/526689-fox-reporter-project-veritas/
Recorded video inside ...showing how fox news deceive americans citizens over covid19
and other issues. This is not news ,but it is interesting to see former employers speaking openly
about the massive corruption inside US media over the pandemic.
things she told..
- US all media cover up , the alternative medicine to deal with covid19.
-US media censor any negative news about US vaccines side effects.
-A lot of money goes to the pockets , of media for saying the things , the government
and pharma industry wants.
- US media playing with the lives of american people for money.
Later the massive ignorants ,the vaccine bots ,in this forum accuse me of "conspiration theories"
when even the employeers of US media says it too ,of a major deception campaign , cover up
happening with the US vaccines , to lie the american people over the real consequences and danger
to people lives ,that the vaccines are, and the cover up of the dangerous side effects.
This is why Doctor in the video pages earlier,that i posted , he told in another interview ,that the
purpose of the pandemic , was the vaccines , to get everyone vaccinated , that all roads leads to the vaccines , the purpose is not to heal people but to get everyone marked with their vaccines. he also told that the US federal government was intentional banning any kind of alternative or preventive medicine to cure people from covid19 and the gov only accepted experimental mRNA vaccines ,never used before in humans , as the only way to deal with sick people and nothing else.. That he used to recommend everyone to vaccinate ,and he did it too , but no longer he can recommend it.
the west lies about covid19.
American journalist working at Fox news , speak and expose the corruption and censorship
happening in american media , including her former employer , for censorship against
any story ,that offers an alternative to american citizens to american vaccines..
Rogue ex-Fox 26 reporter accuses station of bias & self-censorship to please advertisers
https://www.rt.com/usa/526689-fox-reporter-project-veritas/
Recorded video inside ...showing how fox news deceive americans citizens over covid19
and other issues. This is not news ,but it is interesting to see former employers speaking openly
about the massive corruption inside US media over the pandemic.
things she told..
- US all media cover up , the alternative medicine to deal with covid19.
-US media censor any negative news about US vaccines side effects.
-A lot of money goes to the pockets , of media for saying the things , the government
and pharma industry wants.
- US media playing with the lives of american people for money.
Later the massive ignorants ,the vaccine bots ,in this forum accuse me of "conspiration theories"
when even the employeers of US media says it too ,of a major deception campaign , cover up
happening with the US vaccines , to lie the american people over the real consequences and danger
to people lives ,that the vaccines are, and the cover up of the dangerous side effects.
This is why Doctor in the video pages earlier,that i posted , he told in another interview ,that the
purpose of the pandemic , was the vaccines , to get everyone vaccinated , that all roads leads to the vaccines , the purpose is not to heal people but to get everyone marked with their vaccines. he also told that the US federal government was intentional banning any kind of alternative or preventive medicine to cure people from covid19 and the gov only accepted experimental mRNA vaccines ,never used before in humans , as the only way to deal with sick people and nothing else.. That he used to recommend everyone to vaccinate ,and he did it too , but no longer he can recommend it.
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Herd immunity fiasco: Russians waited for the third wave of COVID-19
Covid is not terrible
Since June 10, the situation with coronavirus infection has sharply deteriorated in Russia.
The daily growth rate has exceeded 10 thousand infected, and there is every reason to believe that this is not yet the peak of the incidence. In the capital, the situation is worst of all - an outbreak of infection has returned Muscovites to the December pandemic levels.
We and the whole world have already begun to get used to COVID-19, but the summer situation is not typical.
First, the virus picks up steam in dry, warm weather under sunlight, which should be detrimental to the parasite.
Secondly, Russia meets him in a state of full combat readiness - there are enough reserve beds, and doctors have already learned how to cope with the infection. The only problem is that the Russians stubbornly refuse to vaccinate. The coronavirus turned out to be not terrible for the overwhelming majority of the country's population. At least psychologically. The consequences of vaccination are much worse.
The story with the vaccine and the Russians is full of paradoxes. The country was the first in the world to register an antiquated "Sputnik V" last year, and by the beginning of the summer of 2021, only 10% of the population supplied two components of the vaccine! At the same time, it takes six or even eight times more to create herd immunity.
Of course, those who have had coronavirus will also contribute, but there are no exact figures regarding the share of Russians with natural antibodies.
And most likely it won't.
First, any studies on large-scale samples do not provide an accurate picture.
And, secondly, the immunity of the ill person is a very ephemeral ability. Doctors still don't know how long it can last. Simply because the research time is short - a little over one and a half years. The infection is relatively new, and all data is received in real time. That is why it is most correct to form collective immunity by vaccination. But they don't think so in Russia. At least some of the remaining 90% are unvaccinated.
Here are some interesting statistics.
About 10% of citizens who received the required two doses of the vaccine are mentioned above.
A logical question will be - is it a lot or a little?
In the world ranking, Russia is on ... 57th place in this parameter! Moreover, on June 15, our country is in sixth place in terms of the number of cases. Over the entire time of the pandemic, more than 127 thousand Russians died, and we are already the fifth in mortality in world statistics. All of these numbers are not encouraging given the current outbreak of COVID-19. In terms of the daily growth rate of the infected, we are in a specific company with Brazil, Argentina, Colombia and Iran. Recall that these countries have to purchase the vaccine for foreign currency from the leftovers after the countries of the first magnitude.
In Russia, meanwhile, citizens do not recognize any statistics. One of the reasons why people stubbornly refuse to get vaccinated is the lack of faith in the effectiveness of vaccination. Say, there is no panacea for COVID-19, and come what may.
No matter how trite it sounds, let's get back to the entertaining statistics.
Take Israel, for example. According to the official authorities, the Israelis have almost achieved herd immunity - the proportion of citizens who received at least one dose of the vaccine is more than 60%. Israel actually holds the palm, second only to Bhutan with its 64% vaccinated. Tel Aviv lifted most of the pandemic restrictions at the end of February and now no more than 50 people are detected every day. As they say in respected circles, the correlation is obvious.
Vaccine apartment
There are countries in the world that are chronically lacking in anticancer vaccines. For different reasons. For example, India simply does not have time to supply vaccinations in the required volumes. As a result, Indian doctors used about 200 million doses (not identical to the number of vaccinated) of Johnson & Johnson, Moderna and Pfizer / BioNTech vaccines. In terms of the proportion of vaccinated, the billionth population of India is far from the world's top, but this is not the fault of the irresponsible citizens of the country.
The situation is similar with China. More than 420 million vaccinations have been made in the country, and this is not much compared to the 1.5 billion population. But Beijing managed to organize its own citizens into a real antique army. Decades of China's struggle with respiratory syndromes of varying severity have already formed herd immunity. Not in the blood, but in the minds of the Chinese.
The Russian Federation now has everything for a full-fledged vaccination against COVID-19. There are several vaccinations to choose from (although Sputnik V is still the most common). You can easily find the nearest vaccination point or hop on the vaccination bus, which now even runs through the villages. It is possible, after all, to win an apartment and a car in Moscow after an injection! Compare this to the possibilities of one of the millions of poor families somewhere in the vicinity of Mumbai or Delhi.
After that, 10% of those vaccinated in Russia look like at least a mockery. We laugh at scientists, in particular, at Denis Logunov and his team. Sputnik V has become a real world breakthrough. Serious peer-reviewed scientific publications have confirmed 90% of the effectiveness of the COVID-19 vaccine. This, by the way, puts the achievement of Logunov's team on a par with foreign vaccines from Johnson & Johnson, Moderna and Pfizer / BioNTech. A mockery in numbers: with 90% efficiency 90% of Russians at the moment "Sputnik V" is simply not needed.
We laugh at others.
Behind the reluctance to get the vaccine, which is within walking distance, hides elementary selfishness. People believed that over the past year and a half they had "definitely been ill" and did not want to hear about any injections. The arguments are different. “I do not tolerate vaccinations”, “It's all a conspiracy of the state”, “The vaccine does not help”, “I am young and I can easily tolerate covid” and the like. Most significant:
"My cousin's nephew's maternal grandfather was paralyzed right after the injection - you have to think a hundred times more before agreeing to the vaccine."
Inner unconscious self-love simply overshadows all arguments for collective good.
We do not understand or do not want to understand that everyone who is not vaccinated is an element of the transmission of the virus to another. Even if not sick. Like in the domino effect, only such a COVID dissident can put several fellow citizens in a hospital bed at once. And they are a few more, and so on. Something similar happened in Moscow and the Moscow region.
Despite the fact that Sobyanin announced about 50% of the population with immunity (mainly those who have recovered), more than 5 thousand infected are recorded in the city every day. Now this situation is gradually being extrapolated to the whole of Russia. This has already happened twice, if you remember.
What will happen next?
In 3-4 weeks, we expect a surge in mortality. The state will naturally come to new restrictions. Probably, new variants of the coronavirus will appear in Russia, already ours, homegrown. In the end, we ourselves create a wide field for mutation for SARS-CoV-2. Developed vaccines may not be as specific to "novelties" as they are to classic viruses.
Now immunologists are afraid that herd immunity will require 80% of the population with antibodies. And if we come to this, it will be in 2022.
In the end, the question remains - where to get so many apartments and cars for those who are ready to deliver the vaccine?
https://topwar-ru.translate.goog/184082-proval-kollektivnogo-immuniteta-rossijane-dozhdalis-tretej-volny-covid-19.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=ajax,se
Covid is not terrible
Since June 10, the situation with coronavirus infection has sharply deteriorated in Russia.
The daily growth rate has exceeded 10 thousand infected, and there is every reason to believe that this is not yet the peak of the incidence. In the capital, the situation is worst of all - an outbreak of infection has returned Muscovites to the December pandemic levels.
We and the whole world have already begun to get used to COVID-19, but the summer situation is not typical.
First, the virus picks up steam in dry, warm weather under sunlight, which should be detrimental to the parasite.
Secondly, Russia meets him in a state of full combat readiness - there are enough reserve beds, and doctors have already learned how to cope with the infection. The only problem is that the Russians stubbornly refuse to vaccinate. The coronavirus turned out to be not terrible for the overwhelming majority of the country's population. At least psychologically. The consequences of vaccination are much worse.
The story with the vaccine and the Russians is full of paradoxes. The country was the first in the world to register an antiquated "Sputnik V" last year, and by the beginning of the summer of 2021, only 10% of the population supplied two components of the vaccine! At the same time, it takes six or even eight times more to create herd immunity.
Of course, those who have had coronavirus will also contribute, but there are no exact figures regarding the share of Russians with natural antibodies.
And most likely it won't.
First, any studies on large-scale samples do not provide an accurate picture.
And, secondly, the immunity of the ill person is a very ephemeral ability. Doctors still don't know how long it can last. Simply because the research time is short - a little over one and a half years. The infection is relatively new, and all data is received in real time. That is why it is most correct to form collective immunity by vaccination. But they don't think so in Russia. At least some of the remaining 90% are unvaccinated.
Here are some interesting statistics.
About 10% of citizens who received the required two doses of the vaccine are mentioned above.
A logical question will be - is it a lot or a little?
In the world ranking, Russia is on ... 57th place in this parameter! Moreover, on June 15, our country is in sixth place in terms of the number of cases. Over the entire time of the pandemic, more than 127 thousand Russians died, and we are already the fifth in mortality in world statistics. All of these numbers are not encouraging given the current outbreak of COVID-19. In terms of the daily growth rate of the infected, we are in a specific company with Brazil, Argentina, Colombia and Iran. Recall that these countries have to purchase the vaccine for foreign currency from the leftovers after the countries of the first magnitude.
In Russia, meanwhile, citizens do not recognize any statistics. One of the reasons why people stubbornly refuse to get vaccinated is the lack of faith in the effectiveness of vaccination. Say, there is no panacea for COVID-19, and come what may.
No matter how trite it sounds, let's get back to the entertaining statistics.
Take Israel, for example. According to the official authorities, the Israelis have almost achieved herd immunity - the proportion of citizens who received at least one dose of the vaccine is more than 60%. Israel actually holds the palm, second only to Bhutan with its 64% vaccinated. Tel Aviv lifted most of the pandemic restrictions at the end of February and now no more than 50 people are detected every day. As they say in respected circles, the correlation is obvious.
Vaccine apartment
There are countries in the world that are chronically lacking in anticancer vaccines. For different reasons. For example, India simply does not have time to supply vaccinations in the required volumes. As a result, Indian doctors used about 200 million doses (not identical to the number of vaccinated) of Johnson & Johnson, Moderna and Pfizer / BioNTech vaccines. In terms of the proportion of vaccinated, the billionth population of India is far from the world's top, but this is not the fault of the irresponsible citizens of the country.
The situation is similar with China. More than 420 million vaccinations have been made in the country, and this is not much compared to the 1.5 billion population. But Beijing managed to organize its own citizens into a real antique army. Decades of China's struggle with respiratory syndromes of varying severity have already formed herd immunity. Not in the blood, but in the minds of the Chinese.
The Russian Federation now has everything for a full-fledged vaccination against COVID-19. There are several vaccinations to choose from (although Sputnik V is still the most common). You can easily find the nearest vaccination point or hop on the vaccination bus, which now even runs through the villages. It is possible, after all, to win an apartment and a car in Moscow after an injection! Compare this to the possibilities of one of the millions of poor families somewhere in the vicinity of Mumbai or Delhi.
After that, 10% of those vaccinated in Russia look like at least a mockery. We laugh at scientists, in particular, at Denis Logunov and his team. Sputnik V has become a real world breakthrough. Serious peer-reviewed scientific publications have confirmed 90% of the effectiveness of the COVID-19 vaccine. This, by the way, puts the achievement of Logunov's team on a par with foreign vaccines from Johnson & Johnson, Moderna and Pfizer / BioNTech. A mockery in numbers: with 90% efficiency 90% of Russians at the moment "Sputnik V" is simply not needed.
We laugh at others.
Behind the reluctance to get the vaccine, which is within walking distance, hides elementary selfishness. People believed that over the past year and a half they had "definitely been ill" and did not want to hear about any injections. The arguments are different. “I do not tolerate vaccinations”, “It's all a conspiracy of the state”, “The vaccine does not help”, “I am young and I can easily tolerate covid” and the like. Most significant:
"My cousin's nephew's maternal grandfather was paralyzed right after the injection - you have to think a hundred times more before agreeing to the vaccine."
Inner unconscious self-love simply overshadows all arguments for collective good.
We do not understand or do not want to understand that everyone who is not vaccinated is an element of the transmission of the virus to another. Even if not sick. Like in the domino effect, only such a COVID dissident can put several fellow citizens in a hospital bed at once. And they are a few more, and so on. Something similar happened in Moscow and the Moscow region.
Despite the fact that Sobyanin announced about 50% of the population with immunity (mainly those who have recovered), more than 5 thousand infected are recorded in the city every day. Now this situation is gradually being extrapolated to the whole of Russia. This has already happened twice, if you remember.
What will happen next?
In 3-4 weeks, we expect a surge in mortality. The state will naturally come to new restrictions. Probably, new variants of the coronavirus will appear in Russia, already ours, homegrown. In the end, we ourselves create a wide field for mutation for SARS-CoV-2. Developed vaccines may not be as specific to "novelties" as they are to classic viruses.
Now immunologists are afraid that herd immunity will require 80% of the population with antibodies. And if we come to this, it will be in 2022.
In the end, the question remains - where to get so many apartments and cars for those who are ready to deliver the vaccine?
https://topwar-ru.translate.goog/184082-proval-kollektivnogo-immuniteta-rossijane-dozhdalis-tretej-volny-covid-19.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=ajax,se
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Production of the first batch of Sputnik V launched in Italy.
The production of the first test batch of the Russian Sputnik V vaccine began at the Swiss-Italian company Adienne Pharma & Biotech in northern Italy. This was announced on June 16 at the press service of the company headquartered in Lugano.
“We have started production of a test lot, which will be subjected to an internal review for safety and compliance,” the source said. He also indicated that the work is being carried out in close contact with the developer of the drug. As explained in the company, after an internal assessment, a lot will be produced for submission of documents to the competent sanitary authorities in order to obtain a production permit for sale. At the same time, the company found it difficult to name a specific date.
At the end of March, the Russian Direct Investment Fund reached an agreement to organize the production of the Sputnik V vaccine at the Swiss-Italian company Adienne Pharma & Biotech. As previously reported to TASS by the president of the company, Antonio Di Naro, the doses of vaccine produced at this enterprise will enter the market no earlier than the end of 2021 after passing all the necessary certification procedures.
Sputnik V has not yet passed the approval procedure of the European Medicines Agency (EMA). On March 4, they announced the start of the procedure for the sequential examination of the vaccine. As it became known recently, EMA experts completed an inspection of production sites in Russia, and now additional documents are awaiting. In the absence of appropriate approvals for the sale of Sputnik in Europe, batches produced in Italy may be sold to countries where the drug is approved. There are more than 60 of them, the company recalled.
https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/141943/
The production of the first test batch of the Russian Sputnik V vaccine began at the Swiss-Italian company Adienne Pharma & Biotech in northern Italy. This was announced on June 16 at the press service of the company headquartered in Lugano.
“We have started production of a test lot, which will be subjected to an internal review for safety and compliance,” the source said. He also indicated that the work is being carried out in close contact with the developer of the drug. As explained in the company, after an internal assessment, a lot will be produced for submission of documents to the competent sanitary authorities in order to obtain a production permit for sale. At the same time, the company found it difficult to name a specific date.
At the end of March, the Russian Direct Investment Fund reached an agreement to organize the production of the Sputnik V vaccine at the Swiss-Italian company Adienne Pharma & Biotech. As previously reported to TASS by the president of the company, Antonio Di Naro, the doses of vaccine produced at this enterprise will enter the market no earlier than the end of 2021 after passing all the necessary certification procedures.
Sputnik V has not yet passed the approval procedure of the European Medicines Agency (EMA). On March 4, they announced the start of the procedure for the sequential examination of the vaccine. As it became known recently, EMA experts completed an inspection of production sites in Russia, and now additional documents are awaiting. In the absence of appropriate approvals for the sale of Sputnik in Europe, batches produced in Italy may be sold to countries where the drug is approved. There are more than 60 of them, the company recalled.
https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/141943/
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franco wrote:Herd immunity fiasco: Russians waited for the third wave of COVID-19......
.......
Fucking morons every last one of them
Given the fact that vaccine is now available health system has no more need to provide ventilator service to those who had no medical issues but still refused to get vaccinated
Money wasted on them is too much and should be spent better, the whole concept of universal healthcare needs to be finally relegated to history
This virus unfortunately doesn't kill young people so too many morons who refused to got vaccine still had time to reproduce and spread their filthy genes around but hopefully one of next mutations will start removing this type of morons from the gene pool before they have time to reproduce
Sooner these retards are removed from the population the better, they are nothing more than a burden on the society
The fewer degenerates alive the stronger nation will be
This development also blows the whole theory about intelligent Russians out of the water, in reality overwhelming majority of them seem to be little more than shaved apes with intellect of lemmings who need strict owner to tell them what to do at all times and one that tolerates no deviations
Then again what else can you expect from bunch of faecal stalactite worshippers?
At least there are some positive news lately in this entire fiasco:
Russian regions make vaccines mandatory for many workers
https://apnews.com/article/europe-russia-coronavirus-pandemic-business-government-and-politics-d426c8260fb7a69e51bf84a4ad4c54f9
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Authored by Ron Ross via AmericanThinker.com,
As Bishop Joseph Butler said in 1736, "probability is the very guide of life."
The coronavirus has generated more blind fear than perhaps any other event in recorded history. That fear is blind because it ignores easily calculated probabilities.
The reported coronavirus deaths in the U.S. now stand at six hundred thousand. The population of the U.S. is approximately 330 million. When you divide deaths by the population, the number is less than two tenths of one percent. As catastrophes go, that is a relatively small number.
There is a wide disparity of coronavirus deaths among age groups. That fact has been deliberately ignored by the authorities and the media.
Eighty percent of all deaths have occurred in the over 65 population even though that age group constitutes only 16 percent of the total population. The number of deaths in that group is 464 thousand. The total population of Americans 65 and older is 51 million. Dividing the deaths by that population gives you a probability of 0.0089, or nine tenths of one percent.
The number of COVID deaths in the 49 and younger age group is twenty-seven thousand. The total number of Americans in that age group is 233 million. Again, dividing the deaths by the corresponding population gives you a probability of 0.00011, or one one hundredth of one percent. A probability that small is often described as "not significantly different from zero."
Comparing the young and old age groups reveals that the 49 and younger age group's risk of COVID death is ninety times less than the 65 and older age group's.
There has been virtually no difference in policies in regard to various age groups. It has been the costliest application of a "one size fits all" approach ever.
There would have been far fewer deaths and much less disruption of our lives if the bulk of the attention had been focused on the over 65 age group. Rest homes should have been quarantined. Schools should never have been closed. Masks were unnecessary for anyone 50 or younger.
If health officials and the media had acted responsibly, they would have informed the public about these probabilities. They haven't even tried because their objective has been to raise anxiety, not reduce it.
Politicians and public health officials have a very low estimate of the intelligence of the general public and an extremely high (and unjustified) estimate of their own intelligence. They believe their deliberate concealment of facts is admirable.
We know far more now about the coronavirus than when it began, and what we know is very encouraging. Telling the public the truth, however, would expose health officials and the media for the politics behind their incompetence. They would have to admit that most of the pain and damage they've created has been totally unnecessary.
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/damage-done-probability-blindness
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GarryB wrote:They said at the start one of the reasons Sputnik V is so effective is that each dose is different... if they were the same then the second dose would be rather less effective in creating a response from the body.
There is no evidence at all that being vaccinated prevents you carrying and spreading Covid even when it does not effect you, so even those with full vaccinations should still wash their hands regularly and be careful who they cough on...
It's ironic that the US financed the Wuhan lab research to avoid the outbreak at home, but China successfully handled it while the created virus boomeranged & will continue to mutate & hit the West, its allies in Asia, & L. America for years to come.
I would say hahahahahaha regarding all the money the US is spending on bio weapons in other countries how this bit them in the ass... geez they know how to piss away money like no other country on the planet.
All these US funded bio labs all round the planet... had zero effect protecting the US from this shit, but nobody questions it at all... in fact they rush to blame the Chinese for it with a US funded lab... brilliant... they are not interested in the truth and that is why more than half a million of them suffocated to death in a painful way.
But you are not interested in the truth are you Tsavo...
More quotes from Jamestown... were the KKK not available for comment?
The point about carrying the virus is very relevant. Vaccination and antibodies do not remove the virus completely. All of us carry the viruses we got exposed to for the rest
of our lives for the most part. Maybe some species can be fully suppressed but clearly there are species such as varicella-zoster (responsible for both chickenpox and shingles) that
lies "dormant" for decades and can reappear as shingles.
The current US propaganda frenzy over the Wuhan lab ignores that the gain of function research conducted there was started in the USA and financed by the NIH
in China. It was a US project from the start.
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PapaDragon wrote:franco wrote:Herd immunity fiasco: Russians waited for the third wave of COVID-19......
.......
Fucking morons every last one of them
Given the fact that vaccine is now available health system has no more need to provide ventilator service to those who had no medical issues but still refused to get vaccinated
Money wasted on them is too much and should be spent better, the whole concept of universal healthcare needs to be finally relegated to history
This virus unfortunately doesn't kill young people so too many morons who refused to got vaccine still had time to reproduce and spread their filthy genes around but hopefully one of next mutations will start removing this type of morons from the gene pool before they have time to reproduce
Sooner these retards are removed from the population the better, they are nothing more than a burden on the society
The fewer degenerates alive the stronger nation will be
This development also blows the whole theory about intelligent Russians out of the water, in reality overwhelming majority of them seem to be little more than shaved apes with intellect of lemmings who need strict owner to tell them what to do at all times and one that tolerates no deviations
Then again what else can you expect from bunch of faecal stalactite worshippers?
At least there are some positive news lately in this entire fiasco:
Russian regions make vaccines mandatory for many workers
https://apnews.com/article/europe-russia-coronavirus-pandemic-business-government-and-politics-d426c8260fb7a69e51bf84a4ad4c54f9
As usual Russia is spewed on with projection excrement while the same at home is ignored. Nothing about anti-vaxxers in Russia makes it an outlier
compared to the USA, Canada and yes, Serbia.
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Russian articles are coming fast and strong as this problem grows. And just like Russians laughing at the West for their stupidity, the West sees an opportunity to laugh at the Russians.
MOSCOW, June 18. /TASS/. Russia recorded 17,262 coronavirus cases in the past 24 hours, the highest daily number since February 1, the anti-coronavirus crisis center said on Friday. The total case count has reached 5,281,309.
According to data from the crisis center, the coronavirus growth rate stood at 0.33%. The rate was the lowest in the North Ossetia-Alania region (0.05%), the Adygea region (0.06%), the Tuva, Karachay-Circassian, Ingushetia and Kabardino-Balkaria regions (0.07%).
In particular, 1,254 cases were reported in the Moscow region in the past day, 970 in St. Petersburg, 223 in the Buryatia region, 218 in the Nizhny Novgorod region, and 186 in the Voronezh region.
There are currently 302,205 active coronavirus cases in Russia.
Moscow daily cases
The number of confirmed coronavirus cases in Moscow grew by 9,056 in the past 24 hours, this is the highest number since the start of the pandemic.
So far, 1,269,145 cases have been confirmed in the Russian capital. The relative growth rate stands at 0.72%, according to the crisis center. The city reported 6,195 new cases a day earlier.
Moscow recorded 78 coronavirus deaths in the past 24 hours, which is the highest number since January 19. Fatalities have reached 21,276, as follows from the data provided by the crisis center.
Meanwhile, 3,784 patients recovered, with recoveries rising to 1,110,399. Currently, 137,470 people in the Russian capital are still undergoing treatment.
Patients' deaths
Russia’s coronavirus fatalities grew by 453 in the past 24 hours compared to 416 deaths confirmed a day earlier, this is the highest number since March 18. In total, 128,445 people have died since the start of the pandemic.
The conditional mortality rate remains at 2.43%, as follows from the data provided by the crisis center.
St. Petersburg reported 79 fatalities, the Nizhny Novgorod Region - 21, the Ulyanovsk Region - 14, the Sverdlovsk Region - 13, while the Moscow and Rostov regions recorded 12 deaths each.
Patients' recoveries
Russia’s coronavirus recoveries grew by 10,954 in the past 24 hours reaching 4,850,659.
According to the crisis center, recoveries stand at about 92% of the total number of infected people.
Specifically, another 1,466 patients recovered in St. Petersburg, 889 in the Moscow Region, 202 in the Rostov Region, 178 in Buryatia and 171 in the Voronezh Region.
MOSCOW, June 18. /TASS/. Russia recorded 17,262 coronavirus cases in the past 24 hours, the highest daily number since February 1, the anti-coronavirus crisis center said on Friday. The total case count has reached 5,281,309.
According to data from the crisis center, the coronavirus growth rate stood at 0.33%. The rate was the lowest in the North Ossetia-Alania region (0.05%), the Adygea region (0.06%), the Tuva, Karachay-Circassian, Ingushetia and Kabardino-Balkaria regions (0.07%).
In particular, 1,254 cases were reported in the Moscow region in the past day, 970 in St. Petersburg, 223 in the Buryatia region, 218 in the Nizhny Novgorod region, and 186 in the Voronezh region.
There are currently 302,205 active coronavirus cases in Russia.
Moscow daily cases
The number of confirmed coronavirus cases in Moscow grew by 9,056 in the past 24 hours, this is the highest number since the start of the pandemic.
So far, 1,269,145 cases have been confirmed in the Russian capital. The relative growth rate stands at 0.72%, according to the crisis center. The city reported 6,195 new cases a day earlier.
Moscow recorded 78 coronavirus deaths in the past 24 hours, which is the highest number since January 19. Fatalities have reached 21,276, as follows from the data provided by the crisis center.
Meanwhile, 3,784 patients recovered, with recoveries rising to 1,110,399. Currently, 137,470 people in the Russian capital are still undergoing treatment.
Patients' deaths
Russia’s coronavirus fatalities grew by 453 in the past 24 hours compared to 416 deaths confirmed a day earlier, this is the highest number since March 18. In total, 128,445 people have died since the start of the pandemic.
The conditional mortality rate remains at 2.43%, as follows from the data provided by the crisis center.
St. Petersburg reported 79 fatalities, the Nizhny Novgorod Region - 21, the Ulyanovsk Region - 14, the Sverdlovsk Region - 13, while the Moscow and Rostov regions recorded 12 deaths each.
Patients' recoveries
Russia’s coronavirus recoveries grew by 10,954 in the past 24 hours reaching 4,850,659.
According to the crisis center, recoveries stand at about 92% of the total number of infected people.
Specifically, another 1,466 patients recovered in St. Petersburg, 889 in the Moscow Region, 202 in the Rostov Region, 178 in Buryatia and 171 in the Voronezh Region.
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On a more positive note:
MOSCOW, June 18. /TASS/. Almost 42,000 people signed up for vaccination against coronavirus in Moscow over the past day, which is four times more than usual, Anastasia Rakova, deputy mayor of the capital for social development, told reporters on Friday.
"Over the past day, the number of people who signed up for vaccination against coronavirus infection has grown significantly — we are recording a fourfold increase compared to the previous week. Almost 42,000 Moscow residents signed up for the vaccination during the day. It is important that Muscovites do not postpone vaccinations and sign up for the coming days. This indicates that they understand how serious the situation is and want to get vaccinated as soon as possible. This is crucial in the current epidemiological situation," Rakova said.
She recalled that mass vaccination against COVID-19 is underway in Moscow. By appointment, anyone over 18 years old can get vaccinated free of charge at one of 100 centers based on city outpatient clinics. You can get vaccinated without an appointment in popular public places where mobile teams work, as well as in the Healthy Moscow pavilions, which are now open only for vaccination against COVID-19 and will work until everyone is vaccinated during the day.
In addition, you can get vaccinated in private medical clinics. The vaccine itself is free for residents, you only need to pay for the services of the clinic for the injection.
Moscow ranks first among the regions of Russia in terms of the number of cases of coronavirus. On June 16, the chief health inspector, Elena Andreeva, obliged 60% of employees of enterprises working in trade, services, public catering, housing and communal services, transport, education, health care, social protection, as well as beauty salons, fitness clubs, theaters, cinemas, concert halls, and other similar organizations to get jabbed against coronavirus.
MOSCOW, June 18. /TASS/. Almost 42,000 people signed up for vaccination against coronavirus in Moscow over the past day, which is four times more than usual, Anastasia Rakova, deputy mayor of the capital for social development, told reporters on Friday.
"Over the past day, the number of people who signed up for vaccination against coronavirus infection has grown significantly — we are recording a fourfold increase compared to the previous week. Almost 42,000 Moscow residents signed up for the vaccination during the day. It is important that Muscovites do not postpone vaccinations and sign up for the coming days. This indicates that they understand how serious the situation is and want to get vaccinated as soon as possible. This is crucial in the current epidemiological situation," Rakova said.
She recalled that mass vaccination against COVID-19 is underway in Moscow. By appointment, anyone over 18 years old can get vaccinated free of charge at one of 100 centers based on city outpatient clinics. You can get vaccinated without an appointment in popular public places where mobile teams work, as well as in the Healthy Moscow pavilions, which are now open only for vaccination against COVID-19 and will work until everyone is vaccinated during the day.
In addition, you can get vaccinated in private medical clinics. The vaccine itself is free for residents, you only need to pay for the services of the clinic for the injection.
Moscow ranks first among the regions of Russia in terms of the number of cases of coronavirus. On June 16, the chief health inspector, Elena Andreeva, obliged 60% of employees of enterprises working in trade, services, public catering, housing and communal services, transport, education, health care, social protection, as well as beauty salons, fitness clubs, theaters, cinemas, concert halls, and other similar organizations to get jabbed against coronavirus.
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The Russian data requires context. Adjusted for population the Russian daily case load is much smaller than in the USA. This skews
the mortality data since there must be a fundamental difference in either case accounting or non-identification of infected cases. So
the real case load in Russia is much higher than the recorded level. It does not make sense for the same disease to have a much lower
total case load with the resulting higher mortality rate.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
More cases but similar deaths in the USA. So many Russians simply do not check themselves into hospitals. In Canada we had the
routine pattern of people going to hospitals when they got the flu. This is absurd and most Russians would not go to a hospital even
if their symptoms were severe. Of course pneumonia is a different ball game, I am talking about regular, survivable flu.
Another factor is the clearly lower burden in Russia from both deaths and cases compared to the USA per capita. This means that
progression of the disease in Russia is slower than in the USA. Regardless of vaccination, this means more persistence in cases and
deaths over time. The US covidiot culture is on a higher plane than in Russia. The USA has also experienced all sorts of demonstrations
that aside from the joke turnouts for Nahalny did not occur in Russia.
the mortality data since there must be a fundamental difference in either case accounting or non-identification of infected cases. So
the real case load in Russia is much higher than the recorded level. It does not make sense for the same disease to have a much lower
total case load with the resulting higher mortality rate.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
More cases but similar deaths in the USA. So many Russians simply do not check themselves into hospitals. In Canada we had the
routine pattern of people going to hospitals when they got the flu. This is absurd and most Russians would not go to a hospital even
if their symptoms were severe. Of course pneumonia is a different ball game, I am talking about regular, survivable flu.
Another factor is the clearly lower burden in Russia from both deaths and cases compared to the USA per capita. This means that
progression of the disease in Russia is slower than in the USA. Regardless of vaccination, this means more persistence in cases and
deaths over time. The US covidiot culture is on a higher plane than in Russia. The USA has also experienced all sorts of demonstrations
that aside from the joke turnouts for Nahalny did not occur in Russia.
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I don't see this present issue as a contest with the West. IMO Russia had done a good job with controlling this pandemic however this lack of vaccinations for no good reason and the resulting escalation occurring now rests on the Russian society and state. Dumb is dumb no matter who does it.
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kvs wrote:As usual Russia is spewed on with projection excrement while the same at home is ignored. Nothing about anti-vaxxers in Russia makes it an outlier
compared to the USA, Canada and yes, Serbia.
Serbia vaccinated 30% of overall population, in large cities it's 50% and with both doses even though we started later
We also had cops round up antivaxxers and blocked their net accounts
But big awesome Russia gets 10%? Fucking apes...
franco wrote:Russian articles are coming fast and strong as this problem grows. And just like Russians laughing at the West for their stupidity, the West sees an opportunity to laugh at the Russians. ...
As they should
franco wrote:I don't see this present issue as a contest with the West. IMO Russia had done a good job with controlling this pandemic however this lack of vaccinations for no good reason and the resulting escalation occurring now rests on the Russian society and state. Dumb is dumb no matter who does it. ...
Exactly
As with everything else other peoples' (in this case much smaller) fuckups are no excuse for your own
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franco wrote:I don't see this present issue as a contest with the West. IMO Russia had done a good job with controlling this pandemic however this lack of vaccinations for no good reason and the resulting escalation occurring now rests on the Russian society and state. Dumb is dumb no matter who does it.
That causality is not self-evident. As I posted, the progression of Covid-19 in Russia is distinct from the west.
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F*ck yeah and soon probably extended to the rest of the country
Moscow hospitals to deny routine treatment to patients who refuse Covid-19 vaccines
https://www.rt.com/russia/526966-routine-treatment-refusal-non-vaccinated/
People waiting for planned operations and other non-urgent medical treatment in Moscow will be denied care in the Russian capital’s hospitals if they have not been vaccinated against Covid-19, but are eligible to receive a jab. ...
.....
Earlier this week, Moscow became the first city in the world to make vaccination a requirement for employees in many public-facing industries. The order applied to a number of sectors, including people working in hospitality, transport and entertainment venues.
Businesses working in these sectors will be required to ensure no more than 40% of their staff are unvaccinated, with hefty fines for organizations falling foul of the measures....
.....
Earlier on Friday, officials confirmed that companies can suspend employees who refuse to be vaccinated without pay, in order to meet their quotas....
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“We are very close to much more severe – temporary, but severe – decisions on restrictions,” Sobyanin added.
Hell yeah already, no need for normal people to have problems because of retards
Didn't get a vaccine? Move your degenerate ass to the back of the line and go f*ck yourself
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The reported coronavirus deaths in the U.S. now stand at six hundred thousand. The population of the U.S. is approximately 330 million. When you divide deaths by the population, the number is less than two tenths of one percent. As catastrophes go, that is a relatively small number.
Yeah, statistics are a really great way to create a false perspective, but 11/9 was the end of the world and it was less than 3K people...
It is comparable to the number of people America lost fighting WWII... I would think it is significant... especially now that it is preventable.
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kvs wrote:The Russian data requires context. Adjusted for population the Russian daily case load is much smaller than in the USA. This skews
the mortality data since there must be a fundamental difference in either case accounting or non-identification of infected cases. So
the real case load in Russia is much higher than the recorded level. It does not make sense for the same disease to have a much lower
total case load with the resulting higher mortality rate.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
More cases but similar deaths in the USA. So many Russians simply do not check themselves into hospitals. In Canada we had the
routine pattern of people going to hospitals when they got the flu. This is absurd and most Russians would not go to a hospital even
if their symptoms were severe. Of course pneumonia is a different ball game, I am talking about regular, survivable flu.
Another factor is the clearly lower burden in Russia from both deaths and cases compared to the USA per capita. This means that
progression of the disease in Russia is slower than in the USA. Regardless of vaccination, this means more persistence in cases and
deaths over time. The US covidiot culture is on a higher plane than in Russia. The USA has also experienced all sorts of demonstrations
that aside from the joke turnouts for Nahalny did not occur in Russia.
yeah,, you keep white washing all the mistakes Russia does , in your eyes , The retarded government administration can't do wrong.
But a few seconds quick research over how Russia government is running the pandemic ,
will reveal more light of what could be happening , what the real issue is .
Will you believe if i told you , the imbecile retarded president continue allowing tourism ,from hostile
nations into Russia , like business as usual?
The moron President is so desperate for a few more euros and dollars ,that tourist bring to Russia and he have keep those flights from all parts of the world to continue traveling to Russia , like business as usual.
June 19: What you need to know today
-Russia on Saturday confirmed 17,906 new coronavirus cases and 466 deaths. Of today's cases, 9,120 are in Moscow, an all-time record for the capital for a second consecutive day.
-Russia will resume regular air travel with the following countries from June 28: the United States, Italy, Cyprus, North Macedonia, Belgium, Bulgaria, Jordan and Ireland, Deputy Prime Minister Tatiana Golikova announced Friday. Citizens of China and Lichtenstein will also be permitted to enter the country.
Regular flights with Turkey will resume June 22, Golikova said.
The Leningrad region that surrounds St. Petersburg has ordered mandatory vaccination for 80% of service workers, while the Tula region has ordered mandatory vaccination for at-risk groups.
So there is only one way to do things right in Russia , just kick the worthless brainless impaired President from the presidency and replace all the mediocre politicians , he have placed by the finger on all positions ,and the nation will return back to an operating status.
If you are facing a pandemic , in your country , will you allow tourism operating business as usual ?
specially from hostile nations ,that which your country was destroyed? US , Turkey ,Britain ? is putin insane?
That idiot president ,simply tried to promote his nation as "tough" and "strong" , but their own official numbers , according to Government own funded media , RT.com ,shows , Russia management of the pandemic is one of the worse in the world .
The only positive thing , i could see happening is the popularity of that retarded brain impaired President going down , after this mandatory vaccinations programs and his incompetence in keeping
his nation safe , in times that he more need it. so to hell with all those sympathizers of that idiot , he is the problem in Russia. you put a clueless monkey there to run the country , an idiot that not even know how to use the internet ,according to his own confession, with totalitarian powers , to run everything , and you can't expect the nation to be run , in an efficient way. sometimes things need to be really bad ,before they become better and hopefully population anger is aimed at the master of idiots , their president..and demand his resignation. whats the point in social distancing and demand mandatory vaccinations , if later he allows people to travel to Russia freely ,that could be used to spread the virus even more? , if they keep doors wide open to very hostile nations to Russia during the pandemic ? It seems the last laugh will not be from Russia , but from the west , when Russia becomes the major center of world attention from incompetence handling the pandemic. incompetent presidents , always are a failure , and will always be and defending them ,don't help in any way Russia .
Asian developed countries , like taiwan or southkorea do have very serious rules for travel , for control of the pandemic , is very limited , their travel and people need to face a 2-3 weeks quarantine in a hotel and pay for it. This is very different to what Russia is doing , just yesterday saw a bunch of NATO tourist, from poland ,traveling to st peterburg for a sport event. Common sense says , during
a pandemic you need to limit up to completely ban ,foreign travelers in the country until you have things under control inside at least. what's the point of sending humanitarian aid to europe , and sending oxygen tanks ,if the country can't even handle the crisis inside?
this is embarrassing , how Russia government is running the pandemic , and all the roads leads to just one person at the top , the very one that is supposed to lead the nation ,that refused to vaccinate for a whole year , to "encourage" by "Example" its population to do what he says , but not what he does. Never saw such big failure and cowardice in any nation top head before ,that his own president ,shows no interest in vaccinating. it remembers me bolsonaro in brasil , that is the other idiot ,that encourage people to just ignore there is a pandemic in the nation .
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Re: Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 #3
Sputnik V developers assure that revaccination with Sputnik Light is safe and can provide protection against all Covid-19 strains.
https://actualidad.rt.com/actualidad/395546-desarrolladores-sputnik-v-revacunacion-todas-cepas
https://actualidad.rt.com/actualidad/395546-desarrolladores-sputnik-v-revacunacion-todas-cepas