Talking bollocks thread #4

sundoesntrise wrote:Remember that whenever getting (too) close to truth there will be mechanisms activated to lead you astray, gatekeep and trigger infighting amongst those looking for answers. These are tested tricks perfected for centuries....

What happened? Are THEY out to get you? Did someone poison your well?

Newsflash: civilized world switched to indoor plumbing ages ago

sundoesntrise wrote:(((PapaDragon)))...

And don't think for a second that I don't know what this means you inbred deformed moron

You are hilariously failing at being subtle

Have fun watching Ruskies pulverize your precious Ukrainian inbred ape cousins into low grade fertilizer

How's that white European population doing? Getting tad brown there lately, ain't it?

Tick-tock, bitch

caveat emptor wrote:

ATLASCUB wrote:It's rather odd to see that clown go to bat for the Jews so fevereshly. He has come forward before to claim that since the Jews did not publicly support the raping of Serbia by the Muslim hordes that that is why he's a born again Jew lover. Which according to him explains his anti-Iranian, anti-Arab stance and one of the many reasons, according to him, I was an Iranian or Arab ethnic....around the time of the hot phase of the Syrian conflict. That obviously doesn't explain the lengths he goes towards washing the Jews obviously... but you know it's a chicken pen after all. He could be an idiot, a bot from a troll farm of the many here or all of the above.... so many options.

One thing that has to explained in regards to local (Serbian) political scene is that the right in Serbia (nationalists) are very often pro-Israel.

Now I can understand it better. Still, they are not just Serbs. The European right has put aside its hostility to Judaism to embrace Islamophobia. The problem is the Muslim immigrants who do not adapt to an atheist, degenerate and consumerist continent (that they should criticize and fight), but not the Jewish financiers who cause wars in the Middle East and lead immigration. It is a fatal error.

ArgentinaGuard wrote:Dude, I see you have a problem with the whites. I remind you that Serbia is a white country....

Suuuuuure....

We are considered White about as much as Mexicans are considered Minesota Scandinavians



Let's go over a list:

- Almost exterminated by Austrians: Check

- Almost exterminated by Germans: Double check

- Almost exterminated by entire White Europe/USA: Check, check and check (and don't even get me started about who they sided with when doing it)

F*ck me, Turks were holiday vacation in comparison to Whites, at least they just wanted to rule us without exterminating us



I'm seeing a clear pattern here: More Whites, more problems

caveat emptor wrote:...One thing that has to explained in regards to local (Serbian) political scene is that the right in Serbia (nationalists) are very often pro-Israel.

You know what they say: sharing gas chambers and mass graves is pretty good way to build sympathy

It's a pattern mirrored in the U.S "evangelical" right to some extent. Crazy world.

PapaDragon wrote:

ArgentinaGuard wrote:Dude, I see you have a problem with the whites. I remind you that Serbia is a white country....

Suuuuuure....

We are considered White about as much as Mexicans are considered Minesota Scandinavians



Let's go over a list:

- Almost exterminated by Austrians: Check

- Almost exterminated by Germans: Double check

- Almost exterminated by entire White Europe/USA: Check, check and check (and don't even get me started about who they sided with when doing it)

**** me, Turks were holiday vacation in comparison to Whites, at least they just wanted to rule us without exterminating us



I'm seeing a clear pattern here: More Whites, more problems

Well, looking at that list, you have a problem with the Germanic countries, not with the rest of the white peoples.
How old are you, my friend? 13 years?

Read the whole thing

Also there's a whole saga about how our "allies" in France and UK played ball, especially during WW1

Could type a whole essay here

PapaDragon, the big issue in the 1990s was not with Serbs as a race or whatever. The problem was Yugoslavia was a country with one of the largest armies in Europe. Yugoslavia had like the 3rd largest land army in Europe around the time the Soviets collapsed. Worst of all it was a Socialist country with tradition of being in the Non Aligned group. So of course the US had to break that up. George Soros basically sponsored all sorts of NGOs and shit and caused the break up of the country in internecine fighting. The breakup of Yugoslavia was the blueprint for all the other color revolutions that followed.

Notice how the US never entered Serbia even in the end when it was left alone with a ground force with fear of your armored formations. After Serbia conceded, the first thing you had to do, was melt most of your tanks down.

PapaDragon wrote:

caveat emptor wrote:...One thing that has to explained in regards to local (Serbian) political scene is that the right in Serbia (nationalists) are very often pro-Israel.

You know what they say: sharing gas chambers and mass graves is pretty good way to build sympathy

There can be exceptions to that; in the Hrubieszow area in Poland the most prominent local Polish partisan commander, together with a bunch of his former partisans from the leftist BCh (Peasant Battalions) were essentially betrayed to the Ukrainian nationalists from the UPA by a Jew. All the betrayed Poles were murdered, together with a bunch of Polish civilians.

By the way, the betrayed Poles were not known for any killings of Jews or for any sort of anti-Semitism.

This took place during early 1945 when this part of Poland was already liberated, and the former BCh partisans were working as members of the police.

The Jew who did it, with the surname of Grynszpan, soon afterwards fled to Brazil, he was the chief of the Polish police in the local area.



http://asaland.proboards.com/thread/460/land-zamosc-zamojszczyzna-1942-1944



So there are always exceptions.

PapaDragon does not understand who controls the United States, Germany and who bombed them in 1990 and to what international interests all this benefited. He doesn't understand what a Lobby is or who George Soros is. In short, he does not understand anything.

So who are the sham wows, uh Shamans, and have they really done work in Russia or is it just more bullshit from the Times of London?

This is a note from one of the main Argentine newspapers, liberal and pro-American.
Look. I translate them.


Volunteers of the International Legion in Ukraine, hit by Russian advances in the east

RAMATORSK.- "They fought in Afghanistan or in Iraq and they say they are not ready," says Polak of his Western comrades, who fight alongside him in the foreign troops in Ukraine.
"Honestly, we have a lot of cowards," launches this volunteer, who is part of the International Legion for the Defense of Ukraine (LIDU) and provides an unusual testimony from the inside.

”Before, I had been appointed lifeguard. But in fact I am not a lifeguard”, he laments. According to this man, there is a bit of everything in the LIDU ranks, “Canadians, Georgians, Croats”, who were not trained for an artillery war.

The "worst" war
“Elon Musk, if you can hear me, we need help!” a former member of the US military in Kharkiv launched on Friday, addressing the CEO of Tesla Motors during a press conference.

A Dutchman, a Frenchman, a German and an Australian have already died in combat, according to LIDU, which did not specify the date or the circumstances.

For its part, in early June, Russia claimed it had killed "hundreds" of foreign fighters in Ukraine since the start of its invasion on February 24, and had stemmed the flow of new arrivals.
LIDU spokesman, Frenchman Damien Magrou, 33, acknowledges that these fighters, often from NATO countries, are surprised by the harshness of the clashes.

“An American who was in six wars told me it was the worst he had ever seen,” he explains. "Missiles, bombings: the terrain is very different."

As a result of this, between 10 and 30% of those recruited return to civilian life as soon as they land on the battlefield, according to Magrou, despite the fact that experience in handling weapons is required from the beginning.

"Almost all of them are former soldiers, a third of them come from an Anglo-Saxon country," the corporal details. The language of communication is English.

Then there are the citizens of Central and Eastern Europe, for whom the motivations are sometimes different. "The Americans fight for freedom and Western values, while the Poles say that defending Ukraine is also defending their country," he explains.

Although they all signed a contract with the Ukrainian army, they are free to leave whenever they want. "I wanted to come here when I saw the images on television," says Mika, a German interviewed by AFP in Kharkiv. "Since I was in the military, I thought I could help. If we don't stop the aggressor in Ukraine, he is going to invade one country after another."

Few women
Their legal status varies depending on their country of origin, and some "are at risk of criminal charges, for example in Italy or South Korea," warns Magrou.

His personal case is a little different: employed by a large law firm in kyiv for two years, he was on “military availability” and the war came to him.

Women are under-represented in LIDU queues and on International Women's Day legionnaires managed to find flowers and chocolate for a Norwegian female fighter on the front lines in Irpin.

https://www.lanacion.com.ar/el-mundo/los-voluntarios-de-la-legion-internacional-en-ucrania-golpeados-por-los-avances-de-rsuai-en-el-este-nid26062022/

The Americans never fought the Russians face to face. They are experiencing terror.

I am amused by the women. Where is the West and its feminism? Come on girls, equality.

Airbornewolf wrote:Guys,.
i know i sometimes go off topic but this has gone for over an page in the thread.

ask Garry to move your race discussion off the Ukraine thread and go fight it out there with each other.
I don't care where or what triggered this discussion.

As far I am concerned the soviet flag does not judge race.
The Denazification of Ukraine is done under the Hammer and Sickle.
Victory over Nazism and NATO's war-machine is what matters.
the RF/DPR/LPR does not care what nationalities join their ranks.

as a reminder, this WW2 veteran in Mariupol could participate in the parade again after being suppressed for years.
its more important than personal squabbles over "race" done here.

https://i.servimg.com/u/f87/20/39/80/76/victor10.jpg

Restoration of cultural and historical lands.
To put things right and give the people living in these territories an opportunity at living an normal life again.
With their own nationality and identity restored.

Never forget the bigger picture in the conflict here.

The fight in the Ukraine is carried out under the Russian, Imperial, Christian, Beautiful and Slavic flag. Go to a Marxist forum to talk about communism. and thank Lenin for having a "national" Ukraine as Comrade Putin said.
Final point.

PapaDragon wrote:

sundoesntrise wrote:Remember that whenever getting (too) close to truth there will be mechanisms activated to lead you astray, gatekeep and trigger infighting amongst those looking for answers. These are tested tricks perfected for centuries....

What happened? Are THEY out to get you? Did someone poison your well?

Newsflash: civilized world switched to indoor plumbing ages ago

sundoesntrise wrote:(((PapaDragon)))...

And don't think for a second that I don't know what this means you inbred deformed moron

You are hilariously failing at being subtle

Have fun watching Ruskies pulverize your precious Ukrainian inbred ape cousins into low grade fertilizer

How's that white European population doing? Getting tad brown there lately, ain't it?

Tick-tock, bitch

Cheerleading genocide while simultaneously simping for Jews. Classy. I want to say I understand the kneejerk reaction against what you see as Whites, given Slavic history, but you really have to have a 2D view of history to just ignore the blatant attempts by our kosher friends to get rid of certain populations they find an "inconvenience". As far as I see it, Slavs are as White as they come. Sadly for Slavs, the Tribe sees it the same way. Hilarious you acknowledge the demographic replacement in Europe, yet call people a conspiracist when they make the observation. It definitely does start smelling a bit like a case of the echoes

EDIT: Apologies for prolonging the OT, but PD left himself wide open

Backman wrote:i was rummaging through my block list and seen shitcointrader. What happened to that toss pot

Probably on the run from "investors"

Paging Garry, can I repeat the request of others and get rid of the O/T crap.

Just delete it so people learn that they are wasting their time to not put it in the right thread.

Russia should have known that something was off considering how sure the US was that Russia was to attAck. But it's funny how even that intel backfired on the US. Nobody believed it. Not even Zelensky.

Actually I don't think the US believed it either... otherwise they would have done more to preempt it.

I got the feeling that they were pretending Russia was going to attack to justify more sanctions and more support for their anti Russian cause, but primarily to justify the attack by Kiev forces on the Donbass region they were planning.

A way of making an attack sound like self defence... you know... like the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour wasn't... except if the US did it then it would have been rather than a day that will live in infamy.... like 11/9.

Anyway Russia is playing far to nice in this war still. Especially considering this betrayal. Everyone in the command on down in Ukraine deserves what they are getting good and hard.

I disagree... they are showing they are not animals, but yet still are getting the job done, yet not crowing about it and showing off.

Those countries are all controlled by oligarchs with assets in the West that then convince their populations into worshiping the EU just as they do in return for its money and open doors for working there.

Indeed, for the rich and powerful it means more money and no rich man ever has enough money, but for the poor and the average man on the street it is the option to move to an EU country where the problems are tiny... a joke in comparison with the problems in the Ukraine... but the people in power remain isolated and divorced from the people in the street... that remains the same everywhere...

Those countries have leaders that will stay in place only if they bring money to their people who are all poor to modern standards.

In a democracy yes, but in the Ukraine you get money and support from the US and EU to stay in power... and anyone who could beat you gets banned or found to be a criminal and put in jail... or simply murdered.

West can bring some investments and if they come into EU they will get stability at their borders. Russia may have better moral than the scum rulling the west but they don't really bring anything worth to those countries.

Which is code for western companies come in a buy up any competition and then start extracting wealth from the economy selling that unhealthy food that we as humans love but does not love us.

Those eastern countries if you exclude retards like Poland and baltic racists have no dumb ambitions but some economical goals. They just want normal lifes with good salaries.

If the west could provide that then why are they not doing that in their own countries?

Russia with its military won't be attractive to them. They need to come with investments.

Their investment package was so much better than the EU offer that the anti Russian Ukrainian leader in power at the time actually accepted the Russian offer... and then lots of people got murdered.

Russia can't really win this fight. They need to bring chinese investers with them to get sope support from those countries.

It is not a level playing field... if international rules and laws were adhered to they could win rather easily because they would want their Serbian brothers to grow and develop and improve to be equals rather than their slaves.

What Russia can do with them is just increase economical ties to counter nato influence there and not expect anything from them.

HATO countries will cut most ties with Russia now moving forward... the little yappy purse dogs of the Baltic states and Poland will make sure of that...

Which is no big deal for Russia...

They have a world to trade with...

Regarding German companies, we will see how long they remain competitive without the cheap energy.

Very good point... and Germany doesn't just get cheap energy from Russia.... a lot of what they make uses materials and resources from Russia too... and in return they sell german products like cars and appliances and tools etc... but not now.

Germans have the strongest companies in the world and hard workers you can't take that away from them.

Do all their electrical systems and equipment have manual backups? Hard workers wont heat gas fired furnaces and assembly lines with no power are no longer assembly lines.

Everyone and their grandma knew that the whole thing is bullshit but Russians still went full retard

Russia knew there was going to be a war, so they started it so they could control it by making it on their terms.

Last week our shitstream was translating ukronews how about the whole Russian army elite troops trained to fight NATO are already gone, killed and dispressed by the mighty ukroarmy.
Each newspaper has a department of "subject taken out of an arse". Lately, it turned out, that for some of them, that is the only department.

That is great news because the thing with the western media is their lack of imagination so all their claims about Russia are normally the opposite... ie Putin is super rich and steals money... Poro and Zelensky got richer over this... Russia running out of missiles and ammo... like the west does in most of its conflicts... now they are saying the elite Ukrainian troops are dead or surrendering or running away... sounds about right to me...

mnztr wrote:

Where did you get your "prosperity" in Poland from?

And you really think most Polish people give a shit about some Commonwealth past?

littlerabbit wrote:

George1 wrote:

Broski wrote:

George1 wrote:the religion is the cause. Consider that even for Ukraine they were part of polish-lithuanian commonwealth so they have been influenced from catholic administration. On the contrary belarus wasnt influenced

If religion is the cause, how do you explain the antagonistic stance that Bulgaria, Georgia, Moldova, Montenegro, Macedonia and Romania (all orthodox christian) have taken against Russia long before the Ukraine war started?

except montenegro the other arent slavic populations. Proto-Bulgarians were a thracian population and then Bulgars a turkic tribe that were slavificised. I though the discussion was about the hostility of slavic nations towards russia

I have to answer to this statement. According to latest genetic research of Y chromosome, Montenegrian, Muslim (Bosniak) and North Macedonian genes are identical to Serbian genes. 100 years ago, those 3 nations were Serbs, as we are, but German and British strategists succeded in their intention to split our nation. So, they are all Slavs and there is a genetic proof for that.  

Serbs themselves helped it with the "you cannot be a Serb if you are not Eastern Orthodox" theme.

looks like now Russians have no chance to win...

GunshipDemocracy wrote:looks like now Russians have no chance to win...


"Picture of western civilization and values"

I like your posts GunshipDemocracy, but why did you have to curse this place with so much degeneracy?

Atlasclub wrote " They will be fine with territorial concessions as long as it's limited to the East. They will do everything in their power (short of starting a world war) to prevent a full Russian sweep of Ukraine. " We went over this problem before . Actual Russian troops in the west , brings no benefits , in the absence of peace . They would have to fight a continuous insurgency against a hostile population , aided by NATO .  Some said the West is also resource poor , and these populations will need economic aid  to survive . Best station Russian troops among friendly population . At least then there is local support , less hostility from western population . There may still be fighting and skirmishes , but along more defined and defensible lines , geographic boundaries and natural barriers . Plus punitive raids can suppress any fire coming from the West , from long range , without putting Russian soldiers , up as bait for the locals .

Now if these concessions , include all Russian majority speaking areas and donbas and LDPR , etc , then I see no problem with it or Russia accepting it . If it is possible to achieve this through peace , then why not ? A retreat by Ukraine , under compulsion by the NATO , may be possible . NATO holds all the strings . At some point , once they overcome their schism and conflicted delusions , it will happen . The Russians and Americans arranged for a de-facto partition of Syria ! Is this , that much different ?

Regarding missile strike on factory , it is clear the target was not market . But blast and fragments destroyed the flimsy corrugated walls and caused a fire and some casualties . In future advance warning of a few seconds can be given to population , before strike . A few seconds will not provide any real advantage militarily , but will enable civilians to go into buildings at least . A high altitude flare and boom , will alert them , before a strike .