nomadski wrote:@ Par far
"...Iran should not do anything, it would be stupid for Iran to do anything militarily. That would be a trap for Iran, what Iran should do is, engage with the Taliban because the Taliban is the major power in Afghanistan... "
The greater trap is doing nothing . The trap of being geographically cut off from China and central Asia , by Pakistan backed terrorists and extremists . Iran did not tolerate this in Iraq and Syria . Why should it tolerate in Afghanistan ? And I doubt that it will remain passive . They were already talking about setting up a front in Afghanistan . I think they should do this , help northern alliance and Tajik in defence of territory against offensives by Pakistan backed terrorists and Taliban . Supply defensive equipment . Rifles , mines , manpads and SAM . If Pakistan does not withdraw , then send special forces directly against them .
The Taliban is an extremist group , they are Pakistan proxy . In any dealings with them , Iran should make sure that the project benefits all of Afghans and not Talibs offensives and murders against other tribes . As for example they exchanged water for fuel . This benefits all of Afghans . So we oppose them where they go wrong . And reward them and all Afghans , where they go right .
The problem is also with Iran religious dictatorship . Since their world is quite small and ends , where Shia rule ends . They can not therefore give rise to fully democratic forces in Yemen , even if they wanted to , since by nature they are a sect . And if at home they kill socialists , then do we blame socialist Yemen people to reject the Shia domination ? And the same problem in Iraq and Syria . They have the support of Shia , but what of other communities or the secular democrats and socialists ? And are the northern alliance another fucked up religious dictatorship ?....... No . They are More moderate . Democratic with a non Mullah as leader . God forbid ! French democrats are more attractive than mullah central .
Some in Iran compared the Taliban to the IRGC ! What idiots . But again it is the reactionary religious right wing , limiting Iran and Iran's reach . But not to worry , Iranians will soon be free from reactionary right wing religion . The NRF will follow better examples . Democratic examples . As will The Yemenis and Iraqis and Syrians and.....The Iranian mullahs can ally with terror Taliban and stay in dark ages . LOL . They have a lot in common .
".....Pakistan has border with Iran, & China has borders & road/rail links with Pakistan & Kazakhstan, so Afghanistan can be bypassed entirely by the BRI. China's main interests r her SUAR security & access to mineral wealth in Afghanistan, as well as denying India from getting a foothold there. So, she won't do anything there to antagonize Iran......."
Pakistan border with Iran is terror border . They export Balouch terror to Iran . Best close this border . China can keep border with Pakistan and go to Kazakhstan . But no good coming to Iran . Or ME . With its vast resources . No Afghan is not property of China . Iran can develop alone . If China wants to play politics and war in region against India , then they better stay in Wuhan . Play their war games across own border . In other words China can **** off ......
Iran does not need to get trapped in Afghanistan, empires far more powerful than Iran have failed in Afghanistan.
Also the Taliban is talking to Iran for some time, when General Soleimani was murdered, a high Taliban delegation went to General Soleimani's house to pay their respects.
Iran also has been talking to Pakistan as well, along with China.
Iran is not going to be "geographically cut off from China and central Asia , by Pakistan backed terrorists and extremists" because Pakistanis controlled by China and the Taliban is controlled by Pakistan(for the most part.)
Why should Iran make sure "the project benefits all of Afghans? This is not Iran's problem, Iran already hostages more than 4 million Afghan refugees.
Iran has supported Sunni's, Shia's and Christians in Syria and Iraq, there are recorded records where Iranian backed Shia forces provided food to Sunni's and Christians, when they were running away from the western backed ISIS terrorists.
The Northern Alliance are CIA backed warlords, who benefited from the drug trade, while the US was destroying Afghanistan. Why should Iran back these assholes?
**** the French Democrats, they destroy other countries, while also destroying their own.
In the last 10 years, Iran's reach has grown, I don't know where you are getting " limiting Iran and Iran's reach."
What "Democratic examples" should Iran, Yemen, Iraq and Syria follow?? The western ones?
Iran is not in the dark ages, it is fairly advanced country, more advanced than the Wahhabi idiot Saudi Arabia.
Iran is not allies with the Taliban, Taliban is current force that is the most powerful, so Iran needs to deal with them.
Where did you get "They have a lot in common" part? CNN? BBC?
China will be very interested in Afghanistan, so they will try to bring stability to Afghanistan. China is already brining Afghanistan into the SCO, has huge projects lined up for Afghanistan but for this to happen, Afghanistan has to stabilize but the CIA backed groups like the the Northern Alliance and the CIA assholes in Panjshir are delaying this.
Iran alone cannot develop Afghanistan alone, they will need Ruusia and China to help them do it.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/9/2/afghanistan-taliban-to-rely-on-chinese-money-spokesperson-says
It is not in Pakistan interests to "export Balouch terror to Iran", it was the US and India responsible for this.
The fact that you are saying that Pakistan controls Balouch terrorists, shows you are limited in you knowledge. Balouch terrorists want a separate country, which is not in the interests of Pakistan, Iran, China or even Russia. But it is in the interests of US, India and Israel.
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