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    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 #4

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    Post  kvs Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:17 pm

    https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19843315.covid-scotland-case-rates-lowest-unvaccinated-double-jabbed-elderly-drive-rise-hospital-admissions/

    DOUBLE-JABBED Scots are now more likely to be admitted to hospital with Covid than the unvaccinated amid an increase in elderly people falling ill due to waning immunity.

    But we must tax the unvaxxed since they are spreading the disease, right...

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    Post  Mir Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:00 am

    AND how about this new "study"! Laughing

    https://www.rt.com/news/546445-vaccines-nocebo-research-effects/


    Most Covid jab ‘side effects’ are not caused by vaccines – study
    Many people are so worried about Covid vaccine ‘side effects’ they actually feel them even if they get placebo, new research claims

    Vast majority of Covid vaccine ‘side effects’ are caused by people's expectations rather than by the vaccine, Harvard Medical School researchers say, after analyzing the reports of more than 45,000 trial participants.

    Various “systemic” side effects, such as headaches, tiredness, and joint pain were reported in both halves of the focus group: among those who received various Covid vaccines, as well as those who unknowingly received placebo.

    After analyzing the reports, scientists from the Boston-based Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center came to the conclusion that the so-called “nocebo effect” – unpleasant sensations caused by anxiety or bad expectations – accounted for three quarters of all reported vaccine side effects.

    Probably the vast majority of people that took the jab in the first place - fully expected this "scientific miracle" to save them from the nasty killer virus. Now if the above applies why do they keep on getting covid? dunno Laughing

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    Post  Mir Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:03 am

    You've been fully Phizered! Laughing

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    Post  GarryB Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:28 am

    Believe it or not Vann welcome back...

    I have never banned you for your anti vax views, you are entitled to your own opinion and you are entitled to share you views here.

    What you are not entitled to is suggest I am part of some big pharmacy conspiracy or want children to die.

    In fact if you don't mention me at all you would be guaranteed to be fine if you can't control yourself.

    If you can control yourself you can mention me as much as you please, but look back at the comments you were banned for and what I said about it and try to work out what I was trying to tell you.

    When you know what not to say and don't say it you will be fine.

    I don't want a bunch of yes men agreeing with everything I say... and I think I can honestly say there are no members I absolutely disagree with about everything, and there are also no member who agree with everything I say.

    Agreeing with me is not a requirement to post or be on this board, but I am a mod and I have to keep you guys under control so of course there are things you can't say to me... I would add that they are also things I wouldn't say to you.


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    Post  kvs Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:28 pm

    Mir wrote:AND how about this new "study"! Laughing

    https://www.rt.com/news/546445-vaccines-nocebo-research-effects/


    Most Covid jab ‘side effects’ are not caused by vaccines – study
    Many people are so worried about Covid vaccine ‘side effects’ they actually feel them even if they get placebo, new research claims

    Vast majority of Covid vaccine ‘side effects’ are caused by people's expectations rather than by the vaccine, Harvard Medical School researchers say, after analyzing the reports of more than 45,000 trial participants.

    Various “systemic” side effects, such as headaches, tiredness, and joint pain were reported in both halves of the focus group: among those who received various Covid vaccines, as well as those who unknowingly received placebo.

    After analyzing the reports, scientists from the Boston-based Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center came to the conclusion that the so-called “nocebo effect” – unpleasant sensations caused by anxiety or bad expectations – accounted for three quarters of all reported vaccine side effects.

    Probably the vast majority of people that took the jab in the first place - fully expected this "scientific miracle" to save them from the nasty killer virus. Now if the above applies why do they keep on getting covid? dunno  Laughing  

    So VITT is a placebo effect? Really now. Who funded this "study"? People think that all research is legit. Some of it is actually crap
    even if it passed peer review and the journal editor. I know this first hand.
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    Post  Mir Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:37 pm

    I think I have posted something totally wacko that came from that exact same "medical school research center". Fking unbelievable!
    But yes I guess this is the type of results you're going to get when you're funded by B&M Gates Foundation and the Rothschild's.
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    Post  Vann7 Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:08 pm



    Another alternative , for today bioweapons ,the gov call "vaccines" that is very effective against covid19. video inside..

    Dr. Mercola interviews Dr. Brownstein on Nebulized Hydrogen Peroxide. Nebulized H2O2 is also a cure for C19


    https://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2022/01/dr-mercola-interviews-dr-brownstein-on-nebulized-hydrogen-peroxide-nebulized-h2o2-is-also-a-cure-for-c19-3765440.html


    The doctor decades ago research found how deficiency in vitamin D and others, caused people to have a much harder time dealing with viruses and he modified his very successful completely safe treatment for use against covid19.. Cool

    Best way to fight viruses is to enhance your health capabilities instead of depending on chemicals and genetical engineering crap tampering your body cells.


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    Post  kvs Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:18 pm

    The problem with this "cure" is that you have to dose your airways regularly to prevent infection. People with chronic inflammation
    and thus compromised immune system function (all people with insulin resistance) the virus infection progresses in a "worst case scenario"
    fashion. The objective of people who care about fighting off infections is to eliminate their chronic inflammation. It is not normal.

    For most covid-19 victims, eliminating their visceral fat would have saved them. Visceral fat induces chronic inflammation itself and
    acts as a hiding place for the virus, which aggravates the inflammation and helps trigger the cytokine storm that can be lethal in the
    case of the Alpha and Delta variants. If you do not want to go on a ventilator and do not want to develop metabolic syndrome do
    something about your insulin resistance ASAP.

    Pharmaceuticals including these "vaccines" are not any sort of cure. That is why we have double vaxxed going to the hospital and
    dying. These are essentially people with metabolic syndrome and chronic inflammation. Vaccination does not remove their underlying
    problem. Changing their diet and intermittent fasting will change their condition and for the vast majority remove the risk from covid-19.
    There is no way to dispute this fact.

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    Post  kvs Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:55 am



    Quebec is a f*cking totalitarian toilet. This is straight out of the 1930s in the USSR and in Germany.
    Little stukach children reporting to the Party on "enemies of the people".

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    Post  kvs Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:40 am

    Here is some analysis of the "hospital crisis" due to covid.

    Quebec has a health care budget of over 43 billion Canadian dollars.

    https://www.advisor.ca/news/economic/quebec-spends-on-health-education-in-pre-election-budget/

    Yet it has a only 1,252 hospital beds for the whole province. At one million dollars per bed, the total cost
    would be 1.252 billion dollars. Which is a small fraction of the budget. No Quebec hospital bed has a
    dedicated nurse let alone a dedicated doctor. So the actual expense of a bed is not even $50,000 in
    terms of employment. Don't anyone even start to try to tell me that the hospital building cost accounts
    for the difference. None of the patients are getting a million dollars worth of treatment spread over a
    year. Especially not covid patients. But even if they were this expensive, there are billions more that
    can be spent to triple or quadruple the number of beds.

    The covid "crisis" with hospitalizations in Quebec is a F*CKING scam.

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    Post  kvs Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:02 pm



    That the flu officially disappeared proves that there was accounting fraud to scare people with covid.

    For the UK without Scotland the total deaths without official comorbidities for 2020 were

    9,400 with 1,549 in the 0-64 age bracket and 7,851 who were 65 and over.

    For first quarter of 2021 we had

    6,483 breaking down into 1,560 and 4,923

    For the second quarter of 2021 we had

    346 breaking down into 153 and 193

    For the third quarter of 2021 we had

    1,142 breaking down into 512 and 630

    The numbers repeated for the death rate from covid in the UK go as high as over 170,000 which means that around 90%
    had comorbidities. This consistent with data from the CDC from 2020:

    https://www.westernjournal.com/cdc-now-says-94-covid-deaths-underlying-condition/

    A new report from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows that in 94 percent of the
    cases of those who died from COVID-19, another condition — in most cases likely brought on or exacerbated by
    the presence of the COVID virus — was also at work on the victim.

    In the above, the 0 to 64 age bracket is a joke. It half overlaps the high risk group. They should specify 0 to 50
    in which case the number of deaths drops to a handful. But people under 50 and children are being forced with vaccinations.

    Another very important point is that the official definition of comorbidity is BS. People who have pre-diabetic HbA1c are
    not classified as having a health issue until they become diabetics. But people with insulin resistance and pre-diabetic
    HbA1c are the ones prone to serious complications from the virus (including the cytokine storm in the lungs) just like
    diabetics. Covid should be called the high HbA1c disease. So the above numbers for the UK for truly healthy people
    are much smaller. It is simply not credible that people over the age of 64 are "healthy". They have reduced immune
    system function and low grade inflammation from their high carb diet.

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    Post  kvs Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:03 pm

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-17/israel-trial-suggests-4th-dose-not-warding-off-omicron-infection

    Fourth Pfizer Dose Is Insufficient to Ward Off Omicron, Israeli Trial Suggests

    A fourth dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was insufficient to prevent infection with the omicron variant of Covid-19, according to preliminary data from a trial in Israel released Monday.

    Two weeks after the start of the trial of 154 medical personnel at the Sheba Medical Center in Tel Aviv, researchers found the vaccine raised antibody levels.

    What retardation. It raised antibody levels to the Alpha strain spike antigen. It did not raise antibodies to Omicron.

    Why is this a conundrum? How can an obsolete vaccine have efficacy against mutated strains? There has never been a
    vaccine that was effective regardless of the changes in the target antigens. That is a physical impossibility. The antibodies
    have to be adapted to the correct target for them to bind to it. Small changes mean that outdated antibodies can still
    interfere with the virus, but with larger changes they become ineffective.

    Meanwhile criminal regimes around the world (Kanada, Australia, Austria, etc.) are redefining full vaccination to include
    boosters. With the same f*cking Alpha strain vaccines. The lunatics have taken over the asylum.
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    Post  Mir Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:37 pm

    The lunatics have taken over the asylum.

    Full blown certifiable psychopaths. Perhaps someone should develop a "vaccine" for that disease. Wink Laughing
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    Post  Vann7 Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:59 pm

    Remotely Detonated Graphene Bubbles Triggered by Frequency Explode Like Bombs, Causing Hemorrhagic Fever Like Symptoms

    doctors discuss new findings in pfizer and moderna shots under electron scope..
    some samples contains graphene capsules that explode under certain frequencies causing internal
    bleeding . the perfect stealth murdering people weapon?  (49 min) video inside link..  some commercials in the middle , video continues until the end.

    Two doctors discuss...
    Some of their findings...

    -mRNA vaccines shots in USA moderna/pfizer... contains graphene and other poisonous metals that can be influenced by certain radio signals frequencies ,also poisonous substances from other metals ,including living parasites that worsen your health .

    -Is a long term depopulation operation , pharma poisoning with  metals about 5% of their shots and sending them to specific zones in USA to intentionally injure and kill people.

    -American congress all their members ,and senate all their members and their aid staff , (thousands of people) completely exempt from taking this killer mandatory vaccines.  

    -30,000 employees of the FDA and CDC , yes the same bastards that authorize this murderous vaccines ,completely authorized to avoid taking any mRNA vaccine shot.  

    -Basically the entire apparatus of the federal government ,top positions are not required to take this vaccines. and probably the super billionaires too and families.

    -their estimates , around 150,000 people killed by this vaccines in USA alone ,two weeks after taking the mRNA shot. but is a long term operation , they can increase how many they want to kill , lethality of the vaccines as much they desire it .

    - they blame chinese communist government for controlling the democrat pro vaccines party , however provided no evidence to support that ,was just their opinion. I dont think china is to blame for this pandemic , since they create their own vaccines and have been used in all latin america with great results.


    https://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2022/01/remotely-detonated-graphene-bubbles-triggered-by-frequency-explode-like-bombs-causing-marburghemorrhagic-fever-like-symptoms-internal-bleeding-3765664.html
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    I applaud the UK for moving back to sanity. By contrast, Kanada is going off the rails as our SJW faggot prime minister is imposing more
    and more mandates.

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    Post  kvs Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:18 am

    https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acsinfecdis.0c00288

    Endogenous Deficiency of Glutathione as the Most Likely Cause of Serious Manifestations and Death in COVID-19 Patients

    Higher rates of serious illness and death from coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) infection among older people
    and those who have comorbidities suggest that age- and disease-related biological processes make such individuals more sensitive to
    environmental stress factors including infectious agents like coronavirus SARS-CoV-2. Specifically, impaired redox homeostasis and
    associated oxidative stress appear to be important biological processes that may account for increased individual susceptibility to
    diverse environmental insults. The aim of this Viewpoint is to justify (1) the crucial roles of glutathione in determining individual
    responsiveness to COVID-19 infection and disease pathogenesis and (2) the feasibility of using glutathione as a means for the
    treatment and prevention of COVID-19 illness. The hypothesis that glutathione deficiency is the most plausible explanation for
    serious manifestation and death in COVID-19 patients was proposed on the basis of an exhaustive literature analysis and
    observations. The hypothesis unravels the mysteries of epidemiological data on the risk factors determining serious manifestations of
    COVID-19 infection and the high risk of death and opens real opportunities for effective treatment and prevention of the disease.

    Saving people involves dealing with the underlying risk factors. Not f*cking vaxx mandates.

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    Post  kvs Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:30 am

    https://www.mdpi.com/2076-3921/11/1/50

    Severe Glutathione Deficiency, Oxidative Stress and Oxidant Damage in Adults Hospitalized
    with COVID-19: Implications for GlyNAC (Glycine and N-Acetylcysteine) Supplementation


    Humanity is battling a respiratory pandemic pneumonia named COVID-19 which has
    resulted in millions of hospitalizations and deaths. COVID-19 exacerbations occur in waves that
    continually challenge healthcare systems globally. Therefore, there is an urgent need to understand
    all mechanisms by which COVID-19 results in health deterioration to facilitate the development
    of protective strategies. Oxidative stress (OxS) is a harmful condition caused by excess reactive-
    oxygen species (ROS) and is normally neutralized by antioxidants among which Glutathione (GSH)
    is the most abundant. GSH deficiency results in amplified OxS due to compromised antioxidant
    defenses. Because little is known about GSH or OxS in COVID-19 infection, we measured GSH,
    TBARS (a marker of OxS) and F2-isoprostane (marker of oxidant damage) concentrations in 60 adult
    patients hospitalized with COVID-19. Compared to uninfected controls, COVID-19 patients of all age
    groups had severe GSH deficiency, increased OxS and elevated oxidant damage which worsened
    with advancing age. These defects were also present in younger age groups, where they do not
    normally occur. Because GlyNAC (combination of glycine and N-acetylcysteine) supplementation has
    been shown in clinical trials to rapidly improve GSH deficiency, OxS and oxidant damage, GlyNAC
    supplementation has implications for combating these defects in COVID-19 infected patients and
    warrants urgent investigation.
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    Post  kvs Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:16 am

    https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4915/13/7/1301

    Effects of Basic Amino Acids and Their Derivatives on SARS-CoV-2 and Influenza-A Virus Infection

    Amino acids have been implicated with virus infection and replication. Here, we demonstrate the effects of two basic amino acids, arginine and lysine, and their ester derivatives on infection of two enveloped viruses, SARS-CoV-2, and influenza A virus. We found that lysine and its ester derivative can efficiently block infection of both viruses in vitro. Furthermore, the arginine ester derivative caused a significant boost in virus infection. Studies on their mechanism of action revealed that the compounds potentially disturb virus uncoating rather than virus attachment and endosomal acidification. Our findings suggest that lysine supplementation and the reduction of arginine-rich food intake can be considered as prophylactic and therapeutic regimens against these viruses while also providing a paradigm for the development of broad-spectrum antivirals.

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    Post  kvs Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:23 am

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8066091/

    Glycyrrhizin Effectively Inhibits SARS-CoV-2 Replication by Inhibiting the Viral Main Protease

    The outbreak of SARS-CoV-2 developed into a global pandemic affecting millions of people worldwide. Despite one year of intensive research, the current treatment options for SARS-CoV-2 infected people are still limited. Clearly, novel antiviral compounds for the treatment of SARS-CoV-2 infected patients are still urgently needed. Complementary medicine is used along with standard medical treatment and accessible to a vast majority of people worldwide. Natural products with antiviral activity may contribute to improve the overall condition of SARS-CoV-2 infected individuals. In the present study, we investigated the antiviral activity of glycyrrhizin, the primary active ingredient of the licorice root, against SARS-CoV-2. We demonstrated that glycyrrhizin potently inhibits SARS-CoV-2 replication in vitro. Furthermore, we uncovered the underlying mechanism and showed that glycyrrhizin blocks the viral replication by inhibiting the viral main protease Mpro that is essential for viral replication. Our data indicate that the consumption of glycyrrhizin-containing products such as licorice root tea of black licorice may be of great benefit for SARS-CoV-2 infected people. Furthermore, glycyrrhizin is a good candidate for further investigation for clinical use to treat COVID-19 patients.

    Ivermectin substitute you can get at your local supplements store.


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    Post  Mir Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:39 am

    kvs wrote:

    I applaud the UK for moving back to sanity.   By contrast, Kanada is going off the rails as our SJW faggot prime minister is imposing more
    and more mandates.

    It does seem that this scam is now finally coming to an end - my own government is considering dropping all the so-called "emergency" measures imposed upon us since the start of the plandemic. The red faced media will now start telling us they knew this all along - and the rats will scurry back in their holes. Laughing
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    Post  GarryB Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:32 am

    Full blown certifiable psychopaths. Perhaps someone should develop a "vaccine" for that disease.

    Actual certifiable psychopaths?

    I would recommend Cyanide as the perfect cure... in very large doses.

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    Post  Mir Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:57 am

    Only thing is cyanide would be way too merciful. A slow and long suffering death would be much more appropriate. That's why I would rather recommend a "vaccine" Twisted Evil
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    Post  kvs Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:35 pm



    Boosters are a racket! The FDA couldn't even be bothered to provide the metrics used to justify its approval.
    "Booster response" aka "inflammation". Gee whiz I am all safe and secure now.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03647-4

    SARS-CoV-2 infection induces long-lived bone marrow plasma cells in humans

    Long-lived bone marrow plasma cells (BMPCs) are a persistent and essential source of protective antibodies1,2,3,4,5,6,7. Individuals who have recovered from COVID-19 have a substantially lower risk of reinfection with SARS-CoV-28,9,10. Nonetheless, it has been reported that levels of anti-SARS-CoV-2 serum antibodies decrease rapidly in the first few months after infection, raising concerns that long-lived BMPCs may not be generated and humoral immunity against SARS-CoV-2 may be short-lived11,12,13. Here we show that in convalescent individuals who had experienced mild SARS-CoV-2 infections (n = 77), levels of serum anti-SARS-CoV-2 spike protein (S) antibodies declined rapidly in the first 4 months after infection and then more gradually over the following 7 months, remaining detectable at least 11 months after infection. Anti-S antibody titres correlated with the frequency of S-specific plasma cells in bone marrow aspirates from 18 individuals who had recovered from COVID-19 at 7 to 8 months after infection. S-specific BMPCs were not detected in aspirates from 11 healthy individuals with no history of SARS-CoV-2 infection. We show that S-binding BMPCs are quiescent, which suggests that they are part of a stable compartment. Consistently, circulating resting memory B cells directed against SARS-CoV-2 S were detected in the convalescent individuals. Overall, our results indicate that mild infection with SARS-CoV-2 induces robust antigen-specific, long-lived humoral immune memory in humans.

    Bend over and take your booster!


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