The Situation in the Ukraine. #31

Full scale intervention that goes for Kiev on the other hand...... now we talking.

Georgia didn't have the pro nazi Azov units that the Ukraine has, so while I doubt there will be a full scale invasion of all of the Ukraine... what for?

They might decide on precision strikes on certain factions throughout the Ukraine that this might be a good opportunity to eliminate.

They probably know where all the super hardened bunkers are and have the bombs and missiles that can reach them... might be a good time for a clearout of the current 1% and see if the next percent down can be more reasonable neighbours.

Israel planning mass Jewish evacuation from Ukraine – media

With all the Nazis there you would think this would have started a while ago... with the full support of the locals of course.

Ukraine struggles to keep the balance between:

OMG we are under attack!

--versus---

Nah, it's all good!
*Citizens, please don't make a run on the bank
*Please don't flee to Germany for better wages
*IMF keep lending us money, we're good for it

That is why they elected a clown... they are the best jugglers... but don't expect good decisions from them when it comes to internal or foreign policy.

If Russia is going to do something aggressive they sure are blowing it bigly. Can’t wait to long and wait for nato to bring more and assets in. Analysis paralysis is bad for situation.

Why?

The Russian economy is fine and a devalued Ruble just means Russian products are more cost effective at home and overseas while foreign stuff becomes more expensive...

The whole house of cards rest on IMF loans. The agency of the clowns in Kiev is a smokescreen. The CIA/MI6 run the show, and have assets everywhere.

Which is why they keep getting IMF loans, because it is not going to the Ukraine... it is probably replacing the drug money income the CIA was used to getting from Afghanistan.

It's going to be a chicken pen run amok when Russian assets reveal themselves too - the expected and unexpected. A fucking mess.

The main Russian asset exposed by UK journalists turned out to be under Russian sanctions and banned from entering Russian territory... I rather suspect these Russian assets are a bit like Russian hackers... later on we will find out they are a CIA or MI5 programme testing their own defences against Russian interference which doesn't exist.

he fact that the US was the first one to announce this is extremely disappointing,” the source is quoted as saying, adding that “quite frankly these Americans are safer in Kiev than they are in Los Angeles ... or any other crime-ridden city in the US.”

Funny...

Something tells me the most embarassing thing for washington is if Zelensky gets that meeting with Putin and cuts the Yankees out of the dealing.

Ironically if he had a chat to Putin and they were able to talk properly and openly then odds are they could probably come to some sort of agreement that both sides could accept... but Putin is very careful to make sure this remains a Ukraine vs Ukraine problem so he wont want to get involved.

Just yesterday I heard concerns from some analysts: what if the occupation of part of Ukraine by NATO forces is planned? They are crazy enough to try to carry out a military intervention under the pretext of "protection from Russian aggression."

The Americans would get their bitches to commit atrocities.
Then deny the atrocities ever happened.
ANd then back them up against ""Russian aggression".
THats why Russia needs to be ready in the Baltics, the Ukraine, Transnistria, Central Asia... everywhere.

The question is.. what happens in more openly GAYTO occupied territories - Poland, Romania, Bulgaria etc/

This was brought up before. NATzO could invade Banderastan itself to force the issue of it joining. A fait accompli if you will.

I am waiting for an MH17 style false flag to rally NATzO and break the divisions, especially German resistance to starting a war.
U-rope is run by the US controlled fake stream media and comprador elites. They will make sure that U-ropeans are all frothing
at the mouth with hate at Russia.

Arkanghelsk wrote:Nah US just climbed down off the really high fence,

Apparently pentagon sees no risk of invasion anymore

You never go full retard

US force deployment tells me and others something else. These statements, including the promise not to respond militarily to
a Russian "invasion" by Stinkin Blinkin, are not to be treated at face value. NATzO is desperate to start a war in Banderastan
and I have not seen the Kiev regime dialing back its plans.

Excellent obliteration of NATzO propaganda about being some "defensive alliance" by the expert on the right at around 10 minutes.
NATzO officials threaten war on Russia and then claim that Russia has no reason to fear any military action from NATzO. What
utter schizophrenic BS.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pqCb88Wah7c


Ukraine does not exist . Historically speaking . From this animation , if correct , no historic entity of any longevity , existed within current borders . The story of the region seems to be eastward expansion of mini - states , that perish quickly and unstable . Followed by westward expansion of super-state that is stable . What you think ?

Arkanghelsk wrote:KVS, 8500 troops are not an invasion force

Russian general staff is not near Ukraine, they are in Belarus, ships are going to Ireland

The threat is NATO, javelins and NLAWS in Kiev are hardly a threat to Moscow or Rostov for that matter

AEGIS ashore is where Russia is looking , so Russia is mounting to contain NATO

Ukraine is a distraction from the main issue, the non ultimatum.

They are so red faced , they need to distract from this, their markets tanked all last week, just yesterday they salvaged 1 day of losses

They are climbing off the fence

The EU and 404 are against suicide , evidenced by spastic commentaries across the european elite

Ukraine is a nothing burger and it always was

The written response, where is it?

How do you know that it is 8,500 troops. And NATzO does not need 100,000 to invade Ukraine, they can deploy 1,000 and get
it into their "defensive alliance". You are way too dismissive. Nothing NATzO says is honest. This includes the claim that Banderastan
will not be incorporated into NATzO. The clear objective of NATzO is to surround it with bases and militant training camps. This is
designed to "contain" Russia and destabilize it. This is why the Russian government is calling for security guarantees. As noted
in the video I posted, the US is not going to reply to the Russian security proposals. They cannot concede that Russia has legitimate
security interests (outside of any sphere of influence).

nomadski wrote:


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pqCb88Wah7c


Ukraine does not exist . Historically speaking . From this animation , if correct , no historic entity of any longevity , existed within current borders . The story of the region seems to be eastward expansion of mini - states , that perish quickly . Followed by westward expansion of super-state that is stable . What you think ?

There was no country called Ukraine until after 1917. Ukrainian nationalism bloomed in the 1800s along side many other such European nationalist
movements which involve fictional history. Obviously some are more legitimate than others. The Germans financed Ukrian nationalists during WWI
(and likely before) since they wanted the agricultural resources and also to weaken Russia. This pattern of foreign meddling persists until today.

The basis of Ukrian nationalism is language and cultural divergence introduced after the destruction of Kiev by the Tatar-Mongol hordes. This
region (around Kiev and to the west) became incorporated into the Grand Duchy of Poland and Lithuania which engaged in Catholic and linguistic
assimilation policies. Even after "Muscovy" restored control over its ancient lands this divergence did not disappear. It was also never
suppressed. Poland and Sweden (the west) kept meddling and financing what amounts to secessionists for example Bogdan Khmelnitsky. Poland
was incorporated into the Russian Empire but was never subjected to religious and cultural assimilation. But after 1920 when Poland grabbed western
Ukraine it went back to the policy of assimilation and harassment of Orthodox Ukrainians. I know, half my family is from this part of Ukraine.

The existence of a country called Ukraine is now a historical fact and it should not be treated as a lost part of Russia that can be returned. But
this does not apply to all of Ukraine. Crimea has already gone where it wanted. The Donbass is likely to leave since I do not see a future for
it under the Ukr boot. Even of most of the rest of Ukria does not speak pure Ukrainian, it has consolidated an identity as Ukrians. The only
interest Russia has with these people is whether they are enemies working to destroy Russia. Right now that is exactly what they ware doing.
NATzO is not a defensive alliance. It is a military bloc with the explicit purpose to destroy Russia.

kvs wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:Nah US just climbed down off the really high fence,

Apparently pentagon sees no risk of invasion anymore

You never go full retard

US force deployment tells me and others something else.   These statements, including the promise not to respond militarily to
a Russian "invasion" by Stinkin Blinkin, are not to be treated at face value.   NATzO is desperate to start a war in Banderastan
and I have not seen the Kiev regime dialing back its plans.

It also doesn't want to provoke a division with Europe, and it understands that its fear-mongering is doing massive damage to the Ukrainian economy.

There are new talks planned between the French, Germans, Zelensky and Putin I think

Of course the US would be happy to make a new Afghanistan for Russia if they can draw it in. I doubt they would themselves send NATO forces there at this point.

Arkanghelsk wrote:https://www.rt.com/russia/547307-croatia-withdraw-nato-troops/

NATO member will withdraw troops in event of war with Russia – president

Croatian President Zoran Milanovic blamed the US for escalating the crisis and said his country would stay out of a conflict

Chihuahuas are scattering , Germany, Croatia, France all breaking ranks

But North Macedonia promised to immediately charge into Russia if boss ordered them to so take that Ruskies!!!

The talks and apparent dialing back of the law put forth by Kiev to declare every non-conformist in the Donbass
a criminal can all become irrelevant with one false flag operation like with MH17. All the scattering and "division"
in NATzO over Ukria is superficial. When the propaganda whip will be cracked they will quickly fall into line. This
fact is rather self evident given the events of the last 30 years.

Firebird wrote:The Americans would get their bitches  to commit atrocities.
Then deny the atrocities ever happened.
ANd then back them up against ""Russian aggression".
THats why Russia needs to be ready in the Baltics, the Ukraine, Transnistria, Central Asia... everywhere.

The question is.. what happens in more openly GAYTO occupied territories - Poland, Romania, Bulgaria etc/

I believe that in this case, the only correct answer would be a missile strike on NATO military bases and logistics centers in Europe.