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    The Situation in the Ukraine. #31

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Jan 25, 2022 1:58 pm

    Then there is this counter view.


    Googlish:

    Emergency statement by Colonel E. Basurin

    The command of the People’s Militia of the DPR continues to receive reliable information about the preparation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for active hostilities in the Donbass.

    We recorded the conduct of the Ukrainian armed formations located in the zone, the so-called “Joint Forces Operation”, measures to prepare for the offensive:

    in subdivisions of the 1st separate tank brigade, in the tank battalions of the 53rd and 54th mechanized brigades, and in the 58th separate motorized infantry brigade of the enemy, vacations for all personnel were suspended, commanders of all levels were ordered to be in temporary deployment points. Drivers and gunners are being discharged from hospitals ahead of schedule, with recommendations to continue medical treatment in units. Commissions from brigade headquarters arrived at tank battalions to control the preparation of weapons and military equipment, check the installation of dynamic protection elements on tanks, and replenish ammunition and fuel;

    in the places of withdrawal of heavy equipment and weapons of the Ukrainian army, determined by the Minsk agreements, located in the areas of the settlement. VOLNOVAKHA, ANDREEVKA and DOBROPOLYE, the presence of tank crews and artillery crews preparing weapons and military equipment for combat use was also recorded;

    Reliable information has been received about the arrival of FORTY military personnel of the 3rd separate special forces regiment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who had previously been trained under the guidance of instructors from Great Britain at the 142 training center of the Special Operations Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, in order to carry out provocations in the AVDIEVKA region.



    http://armiyadnr.su/news/ekstrennoe-zayavlenie-oficialnogo-predstavitelya-nm-dnr-polkovnika-ebasurina-na-24-yanvarya

    https://armiyadnr-su.translate.goog/?_x_tr_sch=http&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en

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    Post  Scorpius Tue Jan 25, 2022 2:00 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:https://www.rt.com/russia/547307-croatia-withdraw-nato-troops/

    NATO member will withdraw troops in event of war with Russia – president

    Croatian President Zoran Milanovic blamed the US for escalating the crisis and said his country would stay out of a conflict

    Chihuahuas are scattering , Germany, Croatia, France all breaking ranks

    But North Macedonia promised to immediately charge into Russia if boss ordered them to so take that Ruskies!!! lol1

    Oh, my God, we'll need to divert an entire company of soldiers to neutralize this powerful threat!
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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Tue Jan 25, 2022 2:13 pm

    Are the 5 landing ships, which are currently running in the Mediterranean, according to "Odessa"?

    Stop Syria, unload material, to maneuver. Then direction black sea. Providing and together with the landing forces on site a great seasurement near Odessa?

    An occupation of Ukraine, setting up a per Russian government, cleaning in West Ukraine. Pro Russia military in the Pro Russia Ukraine takes care of the settlement of the fascists. Model Belarus.

    Sanctions are secondary, but it better protection against NATO expansion and suppression of terror fascists state Ukraine with hypershal nuclear weapons (Made CIA Copy Stinger Afgahntan) from 2035.
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    Post  VARGR198 Tue Jan 25, 2022 2:58 pm

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:24 pm

    owais.usmani wrote:

    Let me put this through my bullshit translator.

    Untranslated.

    US media: Germany is soft on Russia!

    Translated.

    US media: Fight to the last UrinePeon!

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    Post  LMFS Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:57 pm

    kvs wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:Nah US just climbed down off the really high fence,

    Apparently pentagon sees no risk of invasion anymore

    You never go full retard

    US force deployment tells me and others something else.   These statements, including the promise not to respond militarily to
    a Russian "invasion" by Stinkin Blinkin, are not to be treated at face value.   NATzO is desperate to start a war in Banderastan
    and I have not seen the Kiev regime dialing back its plans.

    Surely US won't give up, but they also don't want to push the EU so hard that they are forced to decouple. At the end of the day, the outcome depends on what the balance of forces between lets name them financial and industrial elites in Europe is and how threatened each one see themselves. For the industry in Europe this is the last stand, so they seem ready to fight back, but the result is quite difficult to predict. In any case and as the resurces dwindle, US has less and less power and little other option than throw Europe under the bus, so their cards are just getting worse and worse to keep their colonies under their boot. As for the ukronazis, US will certainly have tried to put them under their leash so any eventual political decision from Kiev can be sabotaged. Clearly a false flag is in the cards.

    In any case I agree Arkanghelsk that the issue is NATO and with their increased international activity of late Russia is giving them an idea of how difficult things could become for them, if they keep ignoring their security demands and Russia decides to exploit all their vulnerabilities.

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:05 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    owais.usmani wrote:

    Let me put this through my bullshit translator.

    Untranslated.

    US media: Germany is soft on Russia!

    Translated.

    US media: Fight to the last UrinePeon!

    Let me translate even better :
    No, we are not going to die in your Anglosaxon war, against our natural, proven, and long lasting ally, we used to be familiar with by the blood, like it used to be.
    So go and **** yourself.
    How do you find it, that Croatia dared to oppose like they did today? As a coincidence? Laughing

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    Post  Firebird Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:29 pm

    ALAMO wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    owais.usmani wrote:

    Let me put this through my bullshit translator.

    Untranslated.

    US media: Germany is soft on Russia!

    Translated.

    US media: Fight to the last UrinePeon!

    Let me translate even better :
    No, we are not going to die in your Anglosaxon war, against our natural, proven, and long lasting ally, we used to be familiar with by the blood, like it used to be.
    So go and **** yourself.
    How do you find it, that Croatia dared to oppose like they did today? As a coincidence? Laughing

    Hmm yep.
    The Pukraine is currently part Nazi, and largely controlled by the filth.
    Croatia was a massively Nazi country, refuses to take part.
    Germany obviously was the most Nazi country. Bitchboy Klitshko moans about Germany
    USA and Canada refuse to sign a declaration condeming Nazism at the UN(only 2 countries at the time, pre Maiden couP)

    The US is basically morphing into the WEF as the focus of its power. Klaus Schwab its leader, grew up a Nazi and is essentially one today.

    A relative of mine does security for the richest people in the World. (Arab heads of states, Rothschilds etc, basically people worth 20 billion USD plus).
    One mega rich family he worked for turned out to be Nazis ie modern day ones. (He left immediately). The media of course have never reported this, and most people wouldn't even believe it.

    So I wonder... how deep does Nazism go?
    Its certainly an aspect to the Pukraine affair.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:33 pm

    One way or the other the only thing the EU did by biting US hand is save their own asses from being blown to smithereens

    They are not getting gas from Yamal Peninsula, it will go to Power of Siberia 2

    Doing business with EU is a liability, it's too much trouble to save them money for what they pulled

    Sell all capacity to China, Yamal Nenets cannot supply Europe

    Maybe in the future the shtokman fields in barents can feed nord stream 2, but we have to reduce gas through Belarus and Ukraine, it's too great of a liability and it was not smart to give Lukashenko and 404 ever a hand in transit fees

    EU should buy LNG from US and Qatar maybe in 10 years we can discuss reactivating nord stream 2, for now we should focus on Power of Siberia 2 and LNG projects

    In fact even if NS 2 is diverted to Kaliningrad, there is no excess supply once Siberia 2 is running

    Kaliningrad should receive LNG from offshore NOVATEK plants,  Nord Stream 2 is at this point a sunk cost

    With 80 per barrel gas, Russia has recouped the investment, let's cut our losses and move on


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    Post  Hole Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:34 pm

    The Situation in the Ukraine. #31 - Page 25 Fj-ah010
    Meanwhile on the most trusted ( Laughing ) news network on TV.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:48 pm

    Hole wrote:The Situation in the Ukraine. #31 - Page 25 Fj-ah010
    Meanwhile on the most trusted ( Laughing ) news network on TV.

    The Situation in the Ukraine. #31 - Page 25 CNN-grab

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:50 pm

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/tass.com/economy/1392413/amp

    Gas reserves record low in European, Ukrainian UGS — Gazprom

    Business & EconomyJanuary 24, 18:01

    As of January 22, the active gas volume in European storages was 26% lower than last year

    MOSCOW, January 24. /TASS/. Gas reserves in underground gas storages (UGS) of Europe and Ukraine are record low, Gazprom said on Monday.

    "The level of reserves in European UGS moved to the area of record minimums since January 11, 2002, throughout long-term observations. Reserves were 1.85 bln cubic meters lower than the minimal indicator as of this date on January 22," Gazprom said.

    As of January 22, the active gas volume in European storages was 26% lower (14.9 bln cubic meters smaller) than last year. Withdrawal reached 71.8%, or 34.3 bln cubic meters, the company said, citing data of Gas Infrastructure Europe.

    Gas filling of Ukrainian UGS is also at minimal levels, Gazprom noted.

    "It dropped to 12.1 bln cubic meters as of January 22. This is 44.6% (by 9.7 bln cubic meters) lower than in the last year and 3.2 bln cubic meters below the injection starting date in April 2021. Reserves in Ukraine’s UGS have already declined lately below 12 bln cubic meters, Gazprom said.

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:15 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/tass.com/economy/1392413/amp

    Gas reserves record low in European, Ukrainian UGS — Gazprom

    Business & EconomyJanuary 24, 18:01

    Why in this thread???

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:18 pm

    Lots more on the way. The Dover is not in UK but US Dover AB, where all the filled US military coffins go back home.

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    #UPDATE: New delivery of US defensive security assistance including 300 Javelins ATGM’s, M141 Bunker Defeat Munitions and ammunition, just arrived in Kyiv, Ukraine, from Dover- via @ChristopherJM


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    Post  JohninMK Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:19 pm

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    This quote from a senior French official shows the growing rift between #Britain Flag of United Kingdom and #France Flag of France on Russia/Ukraine:

    “The UK is developing positions that are very explicit, very alarmist . . . We have to be careful not to create self-fulfilling prophecies.”

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:23 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/tass.com/economy/1392413/amp

    Gas reserves record low in European, Ukrainian UGS — Gazprom

    Business & EconomyJanuary 24, 18:01

    Why in this thread???
    Situation in Ukraine dude

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Jan 25, 2022 6:38 pm

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    At the moment, Ukraine already has about 7,500 Stugna complexes, 1,500 Javelin complexes and about 2,500 NLAW complexes. In addition, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have about 10,000 Soviet Fagots and Concurs left.

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    Post  wilhelm Tue Jan 25, 2022 7:09 pm

    Biden just used the term "Eastern Front" in his latest press conference....

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    Post  Isos Tue Jan 25, 2022 7:21 pm

    Hole wrote:The Situation in the Ukraine. #31 - Page 25 Fj-ah010
    Meanwhile on the most trusted ( Laughing ) news network on TV.

    Soon.They are just in the future Laughing .

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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Jan 25, 2022 7:21 pm

    wilhelm wrote:Biden just used the term "Eastern Front" in his latest press conference....

    Prior to or after he shit himself?

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    Post  flamming_python Tue Jan 25, 2022 7:24 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:https://www.rt.com/russia/547267-ukraine-dismisses-suggestions-invasition/

    Ukraine dismisses suggestions of imminent Russian invasion

    An attack on Ukraine in the near future is unlikely, the country’s defense minister said

    Chihuahuas ran from the backyard, bad dogs!


    The issue never was Ukraine, theres nothing there antonov is building wood stoves,  and Zorya builds floaties

    Russia need the missiles out of Poland, waiting for written response

    Personally I'm waiting for the Houthis to overrun Saudi Arabia. The US has already sent SF there as the Saudi troops and their mercenaries are less than useless

    Then they'll throw the Saudi family off the Jeddah Tower, declare a new Ummah across the peninsula, and topple the rest of the Arab monarchies such as the UAE, Bahrain and Kuwait the only purpose of which is to concentrate all Arab oil wealth and prosperity into the hands of the 0.1%

    Russia need not worry about its lost Su-75 sales. I'm sure the new Arab Caliphate will be happy to buy them instead.

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    Post  Finty Tue Jan 25, 2022 8:35 pm

    Hole wrote:The Situation in the Ukraine. #31 - Page 25 Fj-ah010
    Meanwhile on the most trusted ( Laughing ) news network on TV.

    Bloody hell, I wasn't expecting an invasion, let alone one that quick! Shocked Laughing

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    Post  ATLASCUB Tue Jan 25, 2022 8:56 pm

    All in all, it's a very good psy ops operation - executed to the T.

    Sheepmen, spin doctors etc can huddle up  to try and show off their "high IQ" by "debunking" the propaganda flow in a self-ego boost exercise but the fact remains that on the aggregate all of them are just insignificant bystanders watching the caravan blitz though.

    It's what it's.

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    Post  GarryB Wed Jan 26, 2022 1:19 am

    Yeah, anything that happens you pop up and say it is all going to plan...

    The US and EU and HATO don't have a plan... or they haven't seen it ... of they choose not to follow it.

    The media turning on Germany for being a bad ally is amusing... soft power attempt to keep the bitches in line is not working... but they were in Kabul... they know the plan is to run away... you have already said it often enough to anyone that will listen... HATO will withdraw if Russia is fighting and Russia is fighting if Kiev uses force, but squealing like little girls that Russia is coming Russia is coming clearly isn't working because even Ukraine has said Russia isn't coming.

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