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    Post  bitcointrader70 Fri Feb 18, 2022 8:22 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:
    bitcointrader70 wrote:Russia’s soft power over Europe is selling oil/gas/energy/natural resources. Other than that no ones want any of Russian crap. Ever heard of anyone wanting a Russian smartphone? How about a computer? How about an automobile? How about even clothes?

    Nope I don’t think so.
    Lol its thanks to those resources there is such a thing as Europe 

    But I understand your mentality, that's why your civilization has no future, you've put your eggs in the meta basket

    Good luck with inflation, race, and gender
    I’m Russian idiot. And everything in Russia is also more expensive. Russia also has its own race issues with Arabs and people immigrating from Stan countries and breeding like rats. Those problems are global. Not unique to America. And I was in Moscow in December. I seen my fair share of blue haired freaks. Not as bad as the west but it’s happening.

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    Post  Isos Fri Feb 18, 2022 8:24 pm

    bitcointrader70 wrote:Russia’s soft power over Europe is selling oil/gas/energy/natural resources. Other than that no ones want any of Russian crap. Ever heard of anyone wanting a Russian smartphone? How about a computer? How about an automobile? How about even clothes?

    Nope I don’t think so.

    Actually without Russia, US soldiers would be everywhere and only US companies autorized to make business.

    Ever saw a european successful smartphone ? Computer ? No because you can't lead in every field.

    Russians have their own facebook and their own other stuff that aren't particularly present abroad but that at least forbid US and european competitors to enter the russian market. China has it too.

    And now they are replacing more and more foreign stuff with local products, just like China. US will loose trillions because of that and europe has to buy US because its elites are dogs and its companies totally dependant on US ones.

    And sincerly only sociopaths with delusions of grandeurs like westerners want to be present everywhere. Russians create companies for russian speaking market. They don't really care about foreign markets. That's what allows to tell US to go **** themselves anytime they want.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Feb 18, 2022 8:30 pm

    bitcointrader70 wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:
    bitcointrader70 wrote:Russia’s soft power over Europe is selling oil/gas/energy/natural resources. Other than that no ones want any of Russian crap. Ever heard of anyone wanting a Russian smartphone? How about a computer? How about an automobile? How about even clothes?

    Nope I don’t think so.
    Lol its thanks to those resources there is such a thing as Europe 

    But I understand your mentality, that's why your civilization has no future, you've put your eggs in the meta basket

    Good luck with inflation, race, and gender
    I’m Russian idiot. And everything in Russia is also more expensive. Russia also has its own race issues with Arabs and people immigrating from Stan countries and breeding like rats. Those problems are global. Not unique to America. And I was in Moscow in December. I seen my fair share of blue haired freaks. Not as bad as the west but it’s happening.

    you are pindostani junior, not Russian 

    And you mean people from kavkaz not arabs, not many arabs are in Russia

    You should read google on your badazz smart phone before you come 

    Chechens, ingush, and Dagestanis have brought problems, but it's nothing like Manhattan, Los Angeles, or Dallas for starters

    Theres nothing wrong with blue hair, just dont bring LGBT to Russia, I'm sure that's part of your cultural superiority as well that you learned from pindostan

    Just dont start a pussy riot, you'll end up with navalny

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    Post  par far Fri Feb 18, 2022 8:30 pm

    There is a lot of stuff that is unrelated to Ukraine and Donbass. It all needs to be moved to the talking bollocks thread or some other thread.

    Where are the Mods.
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Feb 18, 2022 8:37 pm

    https://tass.com/politics/1406157

    West will introduce sanctions against Russia in any case, Putin says

    The Russian leader stressed that sanctions pressure "is absolutely illegitimate"

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Feb 18, 2022 8:50 pm

    The Runet is going crazy, people are demanding intervention

    This is good, Putin has strong domestic support for intervention, all of Russia is demanding him to go in

    He prepared the informational space by saying sanctions are coming

    Good, all Russia is aware now, and the blame will not lie with the Kremlin

    The info war has been won by Russia, the stage is set

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    Post  par far Fri Feb 18, 2022 8:50 pm

    https://www.rt.com/russia/549901-donetsk-explosion-ukraine/


    A car bomb went off in Donetsk, the target was Denis Sinenkov.

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    Post  kvs Fri Feb 18, 2022 8:52 pm

    par far wrote:https://www.rt.com/russia/549901-donetsk-explosion-ukraine/


    A car bomb went off in Donetsk, the target was Denis Sinenkov.


    Ukr terrorists who then engage in an "anti-terrorist" operation (ATO).

    The LDNR forces have not staged a single such incident ever.

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    Post  ATLASCUB Fri Feb 18, 2022 8:55 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:What I see is a lot of clowns around here advocating for Russia to go to war on the behalf of (insert name here).

    Everyone sees trolls I guess. There is one particular propaganda troll that in a span of days has said the following:
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    NATO's response to Russian security demands was "capitulation".  lol1

    "a new INF treaty is being readied, as well as all the other relevant treaties to increase security for Russia"  lol1

    "As for attacking NATO weapons shipments , if they are used to threaten Russia they will be attacked by military technical measures, that's from president, defense minister, and whole russian leadership."

    "NATO wont do anything except watch, as Russia destroys weapons shipments into Ukraine."  lol1 how's that working out..

    "The military pressure campaign was a great success, not only was Britain and the US chased out of Ukraine, but they are now negotiating a new INF treaty, open skies treaty, and probably some sort of new ABM treaty, all with different names."  lol1

    "Why couldn't joe start the false flag everyone said would come?  lol1

    "Well maybe you did not evaluate recent history correctly, if Joe needed the war desperately even predicting Wednesday there would be an invasion, and categorically every wednesday I should mention there was to be an invasion

    Then how come it never happened? With so many stingers and javelins why did the UAF shit its pants, and our lovely bandera friends never fire a shot?

    Well..  my beauties, please visit exhibit A Kazakhstan for all information,  and take a souvenir with you when you leave"  lol1  

    Russia detecting an American sub in Russian territory near an exercise was a display of "superiority".  lol1

    "So in the end, Joe will run away and claim victory"

    "But the facts on the ground are, US could not get any sanctions passed on Russia"  lol1

    "Kiev will fall in days" "LDNR can handle the UAF theres no question Medo"

    vs.

    "VKS can get airborne and provide air support similar to how USAF does for SDF"

    "Once they knockout the Kiev regime, let the Russian army run amok" jocolor  

    "If US got mashed by Taliban, it makes sense UAF to lose to militia"  lol1

    "Russia did offer Ukraine a better deal, but it did not offer oligarchs EU citizenship and free bags of IMF money"... contradiction in the same sentence.  lol1

    "If oligarchs do not return, maybe we will see Ukraine join EAEU"  lol1

    "Welcome to Russia Donetsk and Lughansk!"

    "Biden has effectively capitulated, the short fast game failed, and the shock value of the western threats have fizzled out in gastric fashion"

    "Putin will keep forces where they are, and the removal of NATO and the ultimatum are delivered and upheld without so much as a tap on the wrist"  lol1  lol1

    "The false flag is never coming, in case you missed it, the west has blinked"  lol1

    "It's obvious the west has blinked and choked massively"

    "But their false flag op has backfired, they are running away"

    "Russia has called the bluff, it will go after NATO and conventionally win the fight, the west can only go nuclear and it's too expensive for them to fight this long term"  lol1

    "The stakes could not be higher, and the west is now considering moving to 1997 positions"  lol1

    "In the end this option was always what the west would do, they will lose their civilization if this goes where they bluff, and it's cheaper for them to sign the capitulation" lol1

    "I welcome the break with the EU"

    "Putin does not repeat the mistake of USSR but follows the lessons of Suvorov, Nevsky, Donskoi, Stalin and the colorful history of great Russia

    Patience is a virtue,  russia should not engage the Americans far away, but draw them close and near

    Endure them, and force the decisive confrontation"  lol1 Someone tell him the U.S.A is not the Germany of 1941... scratch that.

    "The Americans have vast respect for Russia, they're mental breakdowns reflect this."  lol1

    "So the US dont want it public, most likely they have capitulated , this is embarassing if so, and Russia should publicize this

    They were bluffing, I mean 8500 troops, what is that?

    They are tied up with China, they have lost Europe, but Europe should figure itself out"  lol1

    "Chihuahuas are scattering , Germany, Croatia, France all breaking ranks"

    "Nah US just climbed down off the really high fence,

    Apparently pentagon sees no risk of invasion anymore" lol1

    "The US desperately needs Russia to invade, their markets are tanking over thousands of points"

    "The US economy is exploding"

    "The western alliance is fractured with Turkey becoming loyal customers"  lol1 "we know the rest of history."  No

    "Either way, the "non ultimatum" is going to be enforced."  lol1

    "Putin could give 2 shits about Ukraine, and Russian citizens and elite could also."  dunno

    "If the NATO offensive into Georgia would be considered case blue 2 with the use of SS mechanized and panzer divisions in Ukrainian ATO, then Donbass resistance at ilovaisk and Debaltseve is very much a Stalingrad 2, with fierce fighting taking place bringing the NATO Army Group South into a grinding halt.

    We could use Syria as a Operation Uranus 2, again NATO Wehrmacht and fanatic SS isis forces double enveloped the region and threatened the Caucasus with blitzkrieg.

    The blitzkrieg failed with ISIS forces decimated by VKS , and Wehrmacht with General Trumpf tomahawk launches were intercepted at shayrat, while the red army retook Aleppo and Palmyra consolidating the gains.

    There were many successes in the southern theatre ,

    While in response the high Ober kommand fuhrers Stoltenberg and Blinken launched Operation Citadel, the final might of NATO army groups were launched into Nagorno Karabakh and Kazakhstan, in modern Kursks. Russia stifled the final blitzkriegs of NATO and broke them in successive battle. Flying the 76th guards airborne into the heart of the battle and finishing it in decisive victory.

    but what Ryabkov, Lavrov, Putin, Shoigu, and generally the High Stavka command led by Marshall Gerasimov are announcing is really the commencement of Operation Bagration 2." lol1

    "The true provocation will come next week, when Iranian president is in Moscow. Wait to see what kind of deals will be made there.

    And then 3 weeks later , during personal invitation by comrade Xi , to Putin, the announcement of a fully fledged alliance. At Peking Winter Olympics"  lol1

    "The US better have some concrete measures to withdraw NATO to 1997 positions by tomorrow, or that is the last meeting between the parties, and the ultimatum becomes enforced."

    "The immense pressure that Russia places on the US does not come from any needed security guarantees.

    Russia perfectly guarantees security for itself."  lol1

    Serbians are "better off" thanks to the war. lol1

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    There is no word to describe this level of incoherency and stupidity, because it's not meant to be coherent. It's meant to propagandize, and flood the commentary with garbage. What paid trolls do. Now naturally I would report such activity if it were on another forum since it's so obvious but this is no ordinary "community" forum, to those who know.

    "You never go full retard"  

    I, for one, totally agree.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:20 pm

    ATLASCUB wrote:Everyone sees trolls I guess.

    There is one particular propaganda troll that in a span of days has said the following:

    NATO's response to Russian security demands was "capitulation".  lol1

    Where is NATO? Have they arrived to Lvov yet? 

    "a new INF treaty is being readied, as well as all the other relevant treaties to increase security for Russia"  lol1

    Yes that is what Sherman proposed, along with the rest of western entourage 

    "As for attacking NATO weapons shipments , if they are used to threaten Russia they will be attacked by military technical measures, that's from president, defense minister, and whole russian leadership."

    Yes that was assured by Shoigu putin and high command 

    "NATO wont do anything except watch, as Russia destroys weapons shipments into Ukraine."  lol1 how's that working out..

    They're standing back watching like you

    "The military pressure campaign was a great success, not only was Britain and the US chased out of Ukraine, but they are now negotiating a new INF treaty, open skies treaty, and probably some sort of new ABM treaty, all with different names."  lol1

    They have submitted proposals for weapons treaties, limitations on drills, and so on 

    "Why couldn't joe start the false flag everyone said would come?  lol1

    I don't see a false flag, I see an overt Ukrainian attack which cost them pretty badly without Russian intervention

    Well maybe you did not evaluate recent history correctly, if Joe needed the war desperately even predicting Wednesday there would be an invasion, and categorically every wednesday I should mention there was to be an invasion

    Then how come it never happened? With so many stingers and javelins why did the UAF shit its pants, and our lovely bandera friends never fire a shot?

    Well..  my beauties, please visit exhibit A Kazakhstan for all information,  and take a souvenir with you when you leave"  lol1  lol1

    Yes they have delivered Kazakhstan back to the Russian orbit , where you were completely wrong months ago

    Russia detecting an American sub in Russian territory near an exercise was a display of "superiority".  lol1

    Yes the virginia class submarine is inferior to be detected in it's original role

    "So in the end, Joe will run away and claim victory"

    "But the facts on the ground are, US could not get any sanctions passed on Russia"  lol1

    Pass them , but I dont think senile fool will be around long enough to make any of it stick 

    "Kiev will fall in days" "LDNR can handle the UAF theres no question Medo"

    vs.

    "Once they knockout the Kiev regime, let the Russian army run amok" jocolor  jocolor

    "If US got mashed by Taliban, it makes sense UAF to lose to militia"  lol1

    They did lose to the taliban, and UAF was decimated in cauldrons by a militia

    "Russia did offer Ukraine a better deal, but it did not offer oligarchs EU citizenship and free bags of IMF money"... contradiction in the same sentence.  lol1

    Russia offered a better deal to Ukraine as a state, what the west offered benefitted the oligarchs,  there is no contradiction there, unless you would agree that antonov making pencils and wood stoves is in line with the better deal 

    "Welcome to Russia Donetsk and Lughansk!"

    Putin has card in his in his hand 

    "Biden has effectively capitulated, the short fast game failed, and the shock value of the western threats have fizzled out in gastric fashion

    He is a lame duck, and apparently he farts around other dignitaries 

    Putin will keep forces where they are, and the removal of NATO and the ultimatum are delivered and upheld without so much as a tap on the wrist"  lol1  lol1

    Where is the Russian army? That's right on the Russian side of the border 

    "The false flag is never coming, in case you missed it, the west has blinked"

    Still waiting on a false flag, suicidal orcs are not a false flag , unless you call evacuating civilians a false flag 

    "Russia has called the bluff, it will go after NATO and conventionally win the fight, the west can only go nuclear and it's too expensive for them to fight this long term"  lol1

    NATO has not shown up as of yet and I doubt they will


    "The stakes could not be higher, and the west is now considering moving to 1997 positions"  lol1

    Well Lvov is not quite 1997 but it is a start in the right direction 

    "In the end this option was always what the west would do, they will lose their civilization if this goes where they bluff, and it's cheaper for them to sign the capitulation" lol1

    "I welcome the break with the EU"

    "Putin does not repeat the mistake of USSR but follows the lessons of Suvorov, Nevsky, Donskoi, Stalin and the colorful history of great Russia

    Patience is a virtue,  russia should not engage the Americans far away, but draw them close and near

    Endure them, and force the decisive confrontation"  lol1 Someone tell him the U.S.A is not the Germany of 1941... scratch that.

    The US won't get close to Russia, they are not Germany of 1941, they could not do what Germany did and that says a lot 

    "The Americans have vast respect for Russia, they're mental breakdowns reflect this."

    I thought the invasion was the 16th, 17th, 18th, 19th??  


    They were bluffing, I mean 8500 troops, what is that?

    Scratch that they only sent 3000

    They are tied up with China, they have lost Europe, but Europe should figure itself out"  lol1

    Scholz doesnt seem to know the word heel

    "The western alliance is fractured with Turkey becoming loyal customers"  lol1 "we know the rest of history."

    2 billion for an s400 ain't a bad gig

    "Either way, the "non ultimatum" is going to be enforced."  lol1

    Theres no more CIA in kiev, seems they shit themselves lil early no? 

    "Putin could give 2 shits about Ukraine, and Russian citizens and elite could also."  dunno

    If he did I can assure you the makes of AN 224 would not be making wooden pots and stoves

    "If the NATO offensive into Georgia would be considered case blue 2 with the use of SS mechanized and panzer divisions in Ukrainian ATO, then Donbass resistance at ilovaisk and Debaltseve is very much a Stalingrad 2, with fierce fighting taking place bringing the NATO Army Group South into a grinding halt.

    We could use Syria as a Operation Uranus 2, again NATO Wehrmacht and fanatic SS isis forces double enveloped the region and threatened the Caucasus with blitzkrieg.

    The blitzkrieg failed with ISIS forces decimated by VKS , and Wehrmacht with General Trumpf tomahawk launches were intercepted at shayrat, while the red army retook Aleppo and Palmyra consolidating the gains.

    There were many successes in the southern theatre ,

    While in response the high Ober kommand fuhrers Stoltenberg and Blinken launched Operation Citadel, the final might of NATO army groups were launched into Nagorno Karabakh and Kazakhstan, in modern Kursks. Russia stifled the final blitzkriegs of NATO and broke them in successive battle. Flying the 76th guards airborne into the heart of the battle and finishing it in decisive victory.


    but what Ryabkov, Lavrov, Putin, Shoigu, and generally the High Stavka command led by Marshall Gerasimov are announcing is really the commencement of Operation Bagration 2." lol1

    You're right, that was an exaggeration, receiving belarus and Kazakhstan without any blood shed was much easier 




    There is no word to describe this level of incoherency and stupidity, because it's not meant to be coherent. It's meant to propagandize, and flood the commentary with garbage. What paid trolls do. Now naturally I would report suchactivity if it were on another forum since it's so obvious but this is no ordinary "community" forum, to those who know.

    The only incoherent one here is the one that cried wolf in Kazakhstan, but got that taken from under their nose, the one flooding the commentary with inconsistencies and vapid babble is you, claiming losses where there are victories , anyone on the forum can reiterate those points to you, but kudos for pointing out my stellar posts with tons of likes,  I don't think you'll get there the way you're going 

    "You never go full retard"  

    I, for one, totally agree.


    If you did you wouldnt have given me this one and made yourself look like the asshat clown you really are, how much time did it take you to make all those cuts and snippets? Get a life !!! 


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    Post  ATLASCUB Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:25 pm

    It's gonna be okay kiddo... the playground will be fertile.

    That man will be needing some himself.... as for the rest of the plebs, if things continue on this path, a run on the ruble is likely.... which means that vodka is gonna get a whole lot more expensive for minimum wage trolls in Crimea. Hoard while you can, just in case Putin doesn't sign the capitulation.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:31 pm

    ATLASCUB wrote:It's gonna be okay kiddo... the playground will be fertile.

    That man will be needing some himself.... as for the rest of the plebs, if things continue on this path, a run on the ruble is likely.... which means that vodka is gonna get a whole lot more expensive for minimum wage trolls in Crimea. Hoard while you can, just in case Putin doesn't sign the capitulation.

    Except vodka is made in Russia, which due to PPP makes the ruble a currency with the 5th highest purchasing power in the world 

    So plebs can drink and eat to their hearts content ! 

    You should visit Crimea dude, it's much nicer than Florida

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:32 pm

    Gary give me some help here, clean this mess up , I'm fending off troll attacks from the bitcoin sped, the atlasclown and seig heil whenever it is he joins in on the chorus

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    Post  caveat emptor Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:34 pm

    Too many people here observe things in black or white, while reality is, usually, all shades of grey.
    Neither is Putin a genius, nor a nincompoop. He made his fair share of mistakes through the years.
    Try to analyze situation rationally, please.

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    Post  ATLASCUB Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:34 pm

    Gary is busy on a meeting, getting the new talking points memo.

    Maybe call the VKS for air support? Kinzhals on the way...

    The troll now the victim...

    Confidence goes out the window quick huh... lol1

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:41 pm

    Jesus these zombies are literally the walking dead

    Mow one down 3 grow in their place

    As always, astutely. 

    Moscow has not deviated for a moment from its Sun Tzu approach – while detailing all demands and all red lines many times over. The Dem combo remote-controlling the senile President of the United States by earpiece/teleprompter was never accused of being the brightest bulbs in the room – any room. That explains why one of their own, Nancy Pelosi, on ABC News, gave the whole Russian “invasion” game away two – or three – days, depending on their math, before the “canceled” non-event. First she said, “If we were not threatening the sanctions and the rest, it would guarantee that Putin would invade.” And then the clincher: “If Russia doesn’t invade, it’s not that he never intended to. It’s just that the sanctions worked.” Here, fully unveiled, is the whole Dem “strategy”: a dubiously effective foreign policy “victory” which will melt away months ahead of the inevitable debacle at the US midterms. Maria Zakharova, that female Slav counterpart of Hermes, the Messenger of the Gods in Ancient Greece, got closer to the truth while framing the psyops: “February 15, 2022 will go down in history as the day Western war propaganda failed. Humiliated and destroyed without a single shot fired.”

    Sounds like you Atlasclown!

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    Post  miketheterrible Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:46 pm

    Yeah, seriously, start removing these morons Garry. You are just allowing these threads to be filled with retards and lack of contribution besides their diarrhea

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    Post  ATLASCUB Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:46 pm

    Ask the Florida grifter peddling propaganda to visit Crimea and settle down. I'm sure he can gather the funds if "dear friends I need your help" pitch in just enough. Same for the British grifter, the German-based grifter... and the rest of the clown car. But why do I have the feeling they'll take the money and stay just right where they're peddling their grift...  The Situation in the Ukraine. #32 - Page 19 1f604

    Sun Tzu master, Jedi grandmaster, Judo master, 5D Chess Grandmaster....

    I personally like dear leader.

    The "economics knowledge " genius could always lend us his high intellect on the topic at hand.... provided his head doesn't explode with rage at the first reply lol1
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:54 pm

    Bozo the Clown, aka Pavlovian Dogvig strikes again! This time with a 'anonymous source.' Rolling Eyes


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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Feb 18, 2022 10:01 pm

    Dear leader? Never heard that one, I think in your country, the grifters are CNN and they call it " our democracy " 😂😂😂 you really are an atlas clown

    Back OT :

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2022/2/18/putin-to-oversee-massive-nuclear-drills-amid-ukraine-tensions

    With nuclear drills, itl keep the west on edge for next couple of days

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    Post  par far Fri Feb 18, 2022 10:29 pm

    With how quickly this evacuation begun, I think was likely being prepared for a while.
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