Russian special military operation in Ukraine
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Looks like it's been 100 or so years since that has happened.
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The most unfortunate take-away of today's event could be a further strengthening of G2. US cuts a deal with China, concentrates on (a frankly easier) challenge in Europe. China gets to lord over Asia till the next time.
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Russian T-72B3s in Kharkov -
and Ukrainian BTRs in Kharkov.
Air and rocket troops had their fun, now its the army's turn to earn their pay.
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Sujoy wrote:US cuts a deal with China
FFS... you just can't be serious???
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I can't say I'm fully behind what's happening, but am willing to see where this goes, and am sincerely hoping the civilian population has been well considered by the Russian strategic planners.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/AlchevskUA/status/1496742510655381506
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bitcointrader70 wrote:Russian bmp destroyed by javelin?
https://mobile.twitter.com/AlchevskUA/status/1496742510655381506
I saw plenty of other links to that video claiming it was Ukrainian. We'll have to wait and see.
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From the looks of a bunch of these strikes not a small number of 404s going to not be wishing anything anymore.hoom wrote:Lot of 404s gonna be wishing they'd just implemented Minsk
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par far wrote:This is out of field left, I don't think no one saw this coming.
I just jumped on to be caught up. This was pretty much akin to my reaction today:
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Apparently a shootdown of a Bayraktar drone. Maybe, but they certainly hit something...
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EkErilaz wrote:
Even if that was true, I would have expected heavier losses considering that Ukrainian IADS is semi competent on paper. This is the first large scale SEAD/DEAD against a semi competent enemy in history. I was expecting much higher losses. First post, from a long time lurker! Hi guys!
Welcome! The Ukraine military has been in a terrible state for many years now - much like the Russians were back in the 90's but just worse. Too early to tell but I think they have very little capability to engage and defend against the Russian strikes. Any major Russian losses claimed by the Ukranka fascists are most likely pure propaganda.
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Most updates need confirmation. But a few more.
1) The command and control point of the Nizhyn airfield was blown up According to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, a military invasion of the territory of Kyiv, Chernihiv, Sumy, Kharkiv, Kherson, Mykolaiv, Odesa (naval landings)
2) The port of Ochakiv, located in the city of Mykolaiv, was also targeted by the Russians. There was a big explosion in the port, and then a fire broke out
3) Commander-in-Chief of Ukrainian Armed Forces:at 5.00 AM the armed forces of the Russian Federation launched an intensive shelling of our units on east, delivered missile/bomb strikes on airfields in Boryspil, Ozerne, Kulbakino, Chuhuiv, Kramatorsk, Chornobaivka, as well as on military infrastructure of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine gave orders to inflict the maximum losses to the aggressor.
4) The people's militia of the Lugansk People's Republic has said that they shot down two Ukrainian Su-24 fighter jets in the area of the settlements of Smeloe and Stepovoe
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Cheetah wrote:I can't say I'm particularly comfortable with the scale of this operation.
No matter what Russia did in the field, the Western jackals would howl and curse and fling dung. Might as well go big if you're gonna have to incur the criticism.
Maybe these NATOstani clowns will have a little more respect for Russian hard power once they get a small example of what they are capable of?
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EkErilaz wrote:
Welcome! The Ukraine military has been in a terrible state for many years now - much like the Russians were back in the 90's but just worse. Too early to tell but I think they have very little capability to engage and defend against the Russian strikes. Any major Russian losses claimed by the Ukranka fascists are most likely pure propaganda.
Well, they had more than enough to both invest and train it's forces since 2015.
Folks, we are talking 7 years!
The problem is, that you really don't get, what the Ukraine is.
And I am the last to blame anyone for that, because this shithole stands beyond all imagination.
It is a shithole with any single bolt possible to be sold being stolen.
They give a shit about own military, it was used to boil the situation only.
Now they will get the paycheck.
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It is a shithole with any single bolt possible to be sold being stolen.
Been going on for years - pretty much the same thing in my country
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Mir wrote:It is a shithole with any single bolt possible to be sold being stolen.
Been going on for years - pretty much the same thing in my country
Yeah, I guess you are the one who can imagine that.
This is a country a normal human living in lets-say-normal country won't get.
I deal with the Ukrainians daily basis. They live in my apartments, they work for me.
Decent and hard-working people, who simply give up and fled.
One of them has three little girls, aged 4-6.
I have asked him once, why he put everything on the table, having a job, a place to live in back there in Ukraine.
What he said to me was a shock.
Ukraine is not a place you would like to rise your daughters.
And he was very precise in describing the fate and future of girls in this country.
I remember that discussion to this very day...
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They downed something alright - there goes the last vestiges of Turkey's hopes and dreams. All gone in flash and a puff of smoke.Big_Gazza wrote:
Apparently a shootdown of a Bayraktar drone. Maybe, but they certainly hit something...
Also gone - a large part of of Ukraine's ammo stockpiles.
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ALAMO wrote:Mir wrote:EkErilaz wrote:
Welcome! The Ukraine military has been in a terrible state for many years now - much like the Russians were back in the 90's but just worse. Too early to tell but I think they have very little capability to engage and defend against the Russian strikes. Any major Russian losses claimed by the Ukranka fascists are most likely pure propaganda.
Well, they had more than enough to both invest and train it's forces since 2015.
Folks, we are talking 7 years!
The problem is, that you really don't get, what the Ukraine is.
And I am the last to blame anyone for that, because this shithole stands beyond all imagination.
It is a shithole with any single bolt possible to be sold being stolen.
They give a shit about own military, it was used to boil the situation only.
Now they will get the paycheck.
I totally agree, I guess i did not understand the level of corruption. Somehow I expected not only the investments and training programs by NATO but also 8 years of active combat operations to have more impact on competence. I guess it was not spent on the IADS.
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Arkanghelsk wrote:conflicting reports
UAF claiming multiple VKS aircraft downed, RU MOD claiming air defenses suppressed, very intense during initial stages of war
Russia denies warplane downed over Ukraine
Moscow has claimed that Kiev’s forces are putting up no resistance
https://www.rt.com/russia/550428-russia-denies-warplane-downed/