Russian special military operation in Ukraine

par far wrote:

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i dont think they intentionally deceiving..

is that they are not paying attention to details..

1)-The russian army will never leave a fallen soldier in a road to rot , like a dog..
2)-The russian army operates with close air support , and in big groups for punching power , so if a russian army tank or vehicle ambushed , they need to destroy a dozen or more to really stop them ,and they will have attack drones support.. so it will be next to impossible for ukraine , to stop russian army if russia have full control of the airspace and many drones and planes as direct support.
3) russian army uniforms are new.. and in very good conditons.. not like donbass rebels ,that seems their uniforms never washed in year and in very poor conditions.
4) russian army equipment and vehicles in very good conditions too. not scrap parts attached ,and falling in pieces. that was in the past.. during georgia war..in 2008 but not today.

caveat emptor wrote:No reason to be unpleasant. He has different opinion, but he sounds very disappointed and sad and doesn't spread malicious bs like some others do.

You are right. Far better to ignore such people.

miketheterrible wrote:Russia ready to negotiate with Ukraine – Kremlin
The Kremlin presents Kiev with two demands

https://www.rt.com/russia/550505-kremlin-presents-demands-kiev/

More like a psyop to confuse enemy troops. They have no more intention to loose time with diplomacy. Even less with US puppets like Putin called them.

Ukraine won't exist anymore at the end of the week.

The Ukrainians will put up decent resistance for a week and a half at most once their forces are broken at Don and Lun, its pretty much over for them.

Ok, here's my attempt at making some sense out of what's happening, after so many years, I published again on my blog and in addition to reposting the news from Cassad, I add my own commentary, use google translate to read

https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/02/24/parte-de-guerra-dia-z-24-02-22-1600-horas/

I had not thought that these initial small attacks are a recon in force. Just seemed to me that the Novorussians and the Russian army are going at it slow and methodical to minimize casualties.

Isos wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Russia ready to negotiate with Ukraine – Kremlin
The Kremlin presents Kiev with two demands

https://www.rt.com/russia/550505-kremlin-presents-demands-kiev/

More like a psyop to confuse enemy troops. They have no more intention to loose time with diplomacy. Even less with US puppets like Putin called them.

Ukraine won't exist anymore at the end of the week.

A week? come now that's being overzealous. They will last more than a week, about a month. Maybe longer if the Russians go slow.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

Isos wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Russia ready to negotiate with Ukraine – Kremlin
The Kremlin presents Kiev with two demands

https://www.rt.com/russia/550505-kremlin-presents-demands-kiev/

More like a psyop to confuse enemy troops. They have no more intention to loose time with diplomacy. Even less with US puppets like Putin called them.

Ukraine won't exist anymore at the end of the week.

A week? come no that's being overzealous. They will last more than a week, about a month. Maybe longer if the Russians go slow.

I'm not saying they will win the war before the end of the week.

They already have Msta S around Kiyv. They aim at destroying the political system as well as the military.

Most airport and weapon stock are gone. Now they will shell Kiyv and hunt Zelensky.

Before the end of the week it will be like todays iraq. A shithole with no military and political infrastructures.

He better leave the country very fast if he wants to live.

Is important to remember that this war , is very different to novorosiya forces fighting kiev in 2016.
in that first war.. it was separatist with scrap vehicles of ukraine and with  limited russian army support with weapons and intelligence.  

now is the mighty force of russian army with full airforce support , now russia dont need to hide anything ,any equipment they need ,will be moved there.
and cruise missiles and any thing they have..  Not even in syria , they had that kind of power..
in syria they had a very limited airforce just a couple of dozen of planes and it was syrian army the
one doing the ground operations , with a few russian special forces doing intel for targets.

still the donbass separatist are fighting however and they will not have the same level of coordination and support and trainning of russian army. So there could be many separatist losses . to know who is who , is only about to look at the quality of uniforms and armored vehicles and more importantly ,russian army will not leave dead bodies in a road of their soldiers.. they have much more firepower
to push back and breakthrough any kiev army.

another last point is..

that russia army speed , is being intentionally limited by russia ,to avoid civilian casualties..
if this was nato ,the will simply bomb entire cities and provoke panic as they did in syria and iraq and use tanks against civilian buildings. if russia did not cared about civilians and public opinion ,it will just invade full scale across all borders and have captured all of ukraine in just 2 days. But russia care for avoiding civilian casualties, reduce significantly the speed they could go. is called rules of engagement that limit russia speed in favor of saving civilians lives.

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Russian Defense Ministry: as a result of Russian strikes, 83 ground objects of the military infrastructure of Ukraine were disabled, two Ukrainian Su-27s, two Su-24s, one heli and four Bayraktar TB-2 drones were shot down (as of 19:00 local, Feb 24

Great news

VARGR198 wrote:Great news

https://twitter.com/shinobi22427722/status/1496884231720558593

Unconfirmed to be taken with a grain of salt, there will be much information from both sides. Wait until solid proof turns up

flamming_python wrote:

bitcointrader70 wrote:Quite frankly I’m surprised majority of Ukraine’s military is even attempting to put up a fight and hasn’t surrendered/deserted yet.

Oh yeah, who would have thought?

I don't know how many are fighting and how many have surrendered

I know this is all a criminal act. I can't believe they made the decision to go in.

Criminal or not criminal act, it's bit too late to do anything about it, no one apart from Kiev and Moscow governments could stop it.

Question is, why Russia is letting Ukraine off the hook so lightly?

Also, plenty of videos of Ukrainians whining to Russian soldiers. They don't seem that they want to be freed.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1496851057888182279

VARGR198 wrote:Great news

https://twitter.com/shinobi22427722/status/1496884231720558593

Azov has barely been active, last time it was reported that they ran away from the front, so maybe that counts as destruction?

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Not from the russia MoD but a dude on Shitter.

Russian tanks are moving into Chernihiv region from Belarus, according to ASB news.

VARGR198 wrote:Great news

https://twitter.com/shinobi22427722/status/1496884231720558593

I think this unit was given special attention. But let's wait for more confirmation.

This would make my day.

There are some people stating that the russian military mostly used "older" weapon systems, except Kaliber. We don´t know yet of drones, glide bombs and so on were used or not. But if not this would be an even bigger surprise to NATO. The will think the whole time: "Shit, what happens if they use their newest weapons, like hypersonic missiles?"

Still some videos of Ukrainian planes flying. They have to be neutralized.

Interestingly enough if Russia does capture Ukraine that means it gains the Mykolaiv shipyard, I wonder if they will modernize that shipyard. It does have huge docks and decent facilities for building ships.

They didn't seem to target infrastructure around that area.

Take it with a grain of salt.

Hole wrote:This would make my day.

There are some people stating that the russian military mostly used "older" weapon systems, except Kaliber. We don´t know yet of drones, glide bombs and so on were used or not. But if not this would be an even bigger surprise to NATO. The will think the whole time: "Shit, what happens if they use their newest weapons, like hypersonic missiles?"

That is my thought exactly, to be honest.
We face a very limited Russian reaction.
They don't use force on a scale comparable with Syria, on their own background.

Hole wrote:This would make my day.

There are some people stating that the russian military mostly used "older" weapon systems, except Kaliber. We don´t know yet of drones, glide bombs and so on were used or not. But if not this would be an even bigger surprise to NATO. The will think the whole time: "Shit, what happens if they use their newest weapons, like hypersonic missiles?"

I was thinking the same, I thought to myself, are the hypersonic missiles being used? Than I said to myself, there most likely is no need for that.

The more I have watched things unfold today the more I see this as a big miscalculation from Russia’s part. Even if Russia defeats Ukraine militarily Russia will be left with a burden of either occupying Ukraine or abandoning Ukraine and watch Ukraine enter the NATO.

The first big mistake was done by Soviet leaders who separated Ukraine from Russia to create this new nation.

The second big mistake was done in the 1990s and 2000s when the West entered Ukraine with their NGO’s while Russia did not do a thing to fight for its own interests in the country (well, except pouring billions of dollars to Ukrainian state coffins annually without getting anything in return).

Ukraine was lost to Russia because of Russia’s own mistakes and apathy.

Now it is too late. This invasion will just make Ukrainians hate Russians even more passionately. Russia can never win back Ukraine again.

And this unifies the West against Russia. Countries like Germany and France will now be camped tighter with the British and Americans.

People in Washington are celebrating now. Russia – even if it scores a big military victory against Ukraine – lost the big war. The war that matters.

Prove me wrong, if you can.

par far wrote:

Take it with a grain of salt.

Two Ukrainian MiG-29 jets.