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    Post  Singular_Transform Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:46 am

    ATLASCUB wrote:They completely believe it was worth it, and I agree with them. From their POV, it is/was. Not an endorsement, just an assessment considering the way they operate. Strategic mistakes of the Americans exist in other areas, not this.

    Don't think so, now the USA facing Russo-Chinese alliance.

    Quite scarry .

    Russia has energy and raw materials, China manpower - what else needed ?

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:50 am

    Sitting ducks

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    Post  Autodestruct Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:52 am

    Russian VDV airport attack was a complete failure apparently.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ELINTNews/status/1496987322553876480

    Shame

    Shame on the old man in charge risking elite soldiers lives for this foolish operation.

    Paratroopers are mobile forces. Without photography showing the destruction of the unit there is no way to know what is going on. We don't know what their objectives are besides harassing the capital. And they don't need to stay in one place to do that.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:54 am

    Let us not forget Russia is dismantling the strongest force in Europe,

    This army is 10x Saddams army and that took Americans more than 1 month

    So if we weigh the operation from that POV it's not a bad performance

    Americans didnt face s300 either, but s125 and s200, so Russians are doing very well, this is a good measure of the military progress and a good totem for Russia

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    Post  ATLASCUB Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:55 am

    The same way they got that CIA/MI6 asset (clearly a brit) aka CNN correspondent so close, is the same way they can make that asset go back to film a nice propaganda piece to boost Ukranian morale of the "airport liberation".

    Russia should be doing all it can to affect the operations of Western "press" inside Ukraine whenever encountered, and not allow them to operate like that. These are all certified assets of foreign intelligence whose sole goal is agitprop propaganda for the folks back home.


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    Post  JohninMK Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:57 am

    More on Snake island. As a strategic location it didn't really matter to Ukraine and NATO. But to Russia............................................NATO spitting blood!

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    Post  bitcointrader70 Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:57 am

    https://mobile.twitter.com/warsmonitoring/status/1496960372372385795

    Russia needs to completely destroy Ukraine’s airforce like yesterday. Wtf. Bring in the flankers and su24-34 and destroy all of their planes

    Russia still has a lot to learn and is nowhere near US operational capacity during desert storm 1991.

    Almost no Iraq aircraft were flying after day 1.


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    Post  Autodestruct Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:57 am

    This army is 10x Saddams army and that took Americans more than 1 month

    Saddam's army and airforce were far larger back in 91. But we also had a lot of allies, whereas Russia is going it alone.
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    Post  flamming_python Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:01 am

    Arkanghelsk wrote:Let us not forget Russia is dismantling the strongest force in Europe,

    This army is 10x Saddams army and that took Americans more than 1 month

    So if we weigh the operation from that POV it's not a bad performance

    Americans didnt face s300 either, but s125 and s200, so Russians are doing very well, this is a good measure of the military progress and a good totem for Russia

    Russia not only has to avoid civilian casualties, but Ukrainian military casualties, when possible

    It's incredibly difficult. Russia can't use military force liberally.

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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:02 am



    Russia Today website is blocked

    Free speech, folks



    This is my take after today:

    Whatever USA was planning to do to Russia was definitely big, they weren't planning on ever giving up and guys in Moscow knew it

    Regular end-of-history diplomacy from 2000 to 2014 wasn't working, they probably tried to defuse it for several years after 2014, saw that it's futile, spent rest of the time buffering the economy and are now doing this to both neutralize the threat in the Ukraine and to make sure that whoever comes after Putin can't just roll over like Yeltsin and return to old status

    This is done to cement the current path



    And it's clearly way bigger than just ''Putin be crazy'' which is accepted interpretation now, this was long time in the making

    Something like this had to be coordinated on every level of government, from leftover commies up to liberals in finance department  

    For all of them to agree on something this drastic it could only be possible if they were all actually genuinely concerned and it definitely had to be way bigger than just who would be running the country or calling the shots about money

    This had to be existential


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    Post  Finty Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:15 am

    For those in need of some western cringe... https://mobile.twitter.com/IAMannalynnemcc/status/1496877541772062727

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    Post  Backman Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:17 am

    bitcointrader70 wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/warsmonitoring/status/1496960372372385795

    Russia needs to completely destroy Ukraine’s airforce like yesterday. Wtf. Bring in the flankers and su24-34 and destroy all of their planes

    Russia still has a lot to learn and is nowhere near US operational capacity during desert storm 1991.

    Almost no Iraq aircraft were flying after day 1.

    That is totally untrue. The US lost a lot of aircraft in Iraq.

    Anyway do you have an update for us from the ghost of Kiev in his Mig 29 ?

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    Post  The Ottoman Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:19 am

    US + Ukraine asks Turkey to close the Straits.

    Erdogan is catched in the middle. Befriend with Russia ánd Ukraine and massive economic deals with also both of them.

    I didnt expect a Russian invasion honestly. I thought USA is just making people afraid. But for the first time in history USA was right. And for the first time i saw Putin lying. He said 2 weeks long that Russia has no intention to start a war, Lavrov and Peskov also.

    Strange times. Klaus Schwab is laughing very hard. This war will rapidly accelerate hyperinflation and skyrocketing fuelprizes and will be the groundwork for his Great Reset.

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    Post  bitcointrader70 Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:25 am

    Backman wrote:
    bitcointrader70 wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/warsmonitoring/status/1496960372372385795

    Russia needs to completely destroy Ukraine’s airforce like yesterday. Wtf. Bring in the flankers and su24-34 and destroy all of their planes

    Russia still has a lot to learn and is nowhere near US operational capacity during desert storm 1991.

    Almost no Iraq aircraft were flying after day 1.

    That is totally untrue. The US lost a lot of aircraft in Iraq.

    Anyway do you have an update for us from the ghost of Kiev in his Mig 29 ?

    They lost planes to sams. Almost no planes or anything to Iraqi Air Force. Yeah Their soldiers were not dying from Iraqi CAS because there was almost no CAS. And the ghost of Kiev is in your ass.

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    Post  Isos Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:27 am

    There is no need to close the strait tbh. Totally useless and turks will get russian nuks pointed at them.


    Anyway according to US intel' they should increase their action tonight. Not trustful but it is an info.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:29 am

    Ukr airforce jets has not shot anything down , it's been Manpads and air defense

    Overall for suppressing S300 it's a great performance using Su24, su25, and helicopters

    Su34 and su35 doing great job

    Americans lost nearly 70 aircraft in desert storm

    Russia is making history here, Ukraine is the largest army and much better then Saddam

    Ukraine is not split along sunni or shia lines

    It's a different animal

    The occupation will be easier since Ukraine is nothing like Iraq in the sectarian sense

    So after this it should be easy

    Nazis are no chechens or Iraqi insurgency, they have tattoos and RPG at old grandmas, they will lie down when it's all said and done

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    Post  Big_Gazza Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:29 am

    flamming_python wrote: Russia can't use military force liberally.

    They certainly can (and will) do so against Banderite loyalists of the regime. Russian speakers in the south and east won't be concerned about dead Ukronazi rats, and their won't be any angst against the new authorities in the post-conflict period due to their demise.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:29 am

    bitcointrader70 wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/warsmonitoring/status/1496960372372385795

    Russia needs to completely destroy Ukraine’s airforce like yesterday. Wtf. Bring in the flankers and su24-34 and destroy all of their planes

    Russia still has a lot to learn and is nowhere near US operational capacity during desert storm 1991.

    Almost no Iraq aircraft were flying after day 1.

    Airborne forces this deep are escorted by attack helicopters and fixed wing fighters.

    The fixed-wings are tasked to defeat any airborne high-speed threats. or at least contest the local airspace.
    Meaning they are going to force the enemy aircraft to engage them instead.
    if they slow down to target the helicopters the escorting aircraft get easy kills on them.

    What you see Is an Russian SU-24 in CAS. (close air support)
    Its flight lead, that is an 45 angle in front of him is dropping flares against heat-seekers.
    From who?. if not MANPAD/SAM?.
    He shields his wingman that is making an bomb-run.

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    And the picture under here?.
    Yeah, i might have a boner watching at this....
    airborne insertion to secure strategic objective. Cool

    This is in the chronological order of things the first picture of the two, as the fire is still raging.
    Notice the simmilarity of the scaffolds and the containers.
    And in the su-24 strike picture its almost burned out.

    Note in the picture the Airborne troops/helicopters are still on approach, they are not in an nose-upward position to slow down.
    So they are well outside the SU-24 strike. No infantry is going to run into an open area......ever.
    Especially an open airport with practically zero cover.

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    i do not know if its inexperience bitcoin, or just wanting to share in excitement.
    And while it is good footage, you misunderstand the interpretation.

    Just take the time to first understand what you see, before you post.

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    Post  Isos Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:31 am

    The False flag that most of you waited for months if not years.


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    Post  caveat emptor Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:34 am

    Arkanghelsk wrote:Ukr airforce jets has not shot anything down , it's been Manpads and air defense

    Overall for suppressing S300 it's a great performance using Su24, su25, and helicopters

    Su34 and su35 doing great job

    Americans lost nearly 70 aircraft in desert storm

    Russia is making history here, Ukraine is the largest army and much better then Saddam

    Ukraine is not split along sunni or shia lines

    It's a different animal

    The occupation will be easier since Ukraine is nothing like Iraq in the sectarian sense

    So after this it should be easy

    Nazis are no chechens or Iraqi insurgency, they have tattoos and RPG at old grandmas, they will lie down when it's all said and done

    Men tone it down a bit. It's not even been 24 hours. Let's wait for 3-4 days to pass for analysis.
    What i understand, but i'm not happy about is that Russia is showing a little too much restraint against Ukrainian military, especially in the east. I wouldn't like them to lose people over politics. Ukraina has, arguably, most battle hardened forces in the east. Use the air force and hit them hard.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:35 am

    The Ottoman wrote:But for the first time in history USA was right. And for the first time i saw Putin lying. He said 2 weeks long that Russia has no intention to start a war, Lavrov and Peskov also.

    It's not that simple. Russia has no intent to intervene, and they legitimately wanted diplomacy to succeed. The West however is run by feckless arrogant morons who think the hot air coming out of their face-holes is some sort of cosmic truth beyond contestation, so they plugged their ears, ignored Russias (legitimate) concerns, and pushed on regardless in pursuit of a maximalist zero-sum win.

    NATO fuktardz and their Globalist money-men masters ultimately left Putin and the Russian elites no choice.

    Edro and the Turkish nation needs to keep its head down and its mouth tightly shut. This is not time to follow the hysterical Western Eurotrash and make mistakes that will cost them biggly.

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    Post  bitcointrader70 Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:40 am

    caveat emptor wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:Ukr airforce jets has not shot anything down , it's been Manpads and air defense

    Overall for suppressing S300 it's a great performance using Su24, su25, and helicopters

    Su34 and su35 doing great job

    Americans lost nearly 70 aircraft in desert storm

    Russia is making history here, Ukraine is the largest army and much better then Saddam

    Ukraine is not split along sunni or shia lines

    It's a different animal

    The occupation will be easier since Ukraine is nothing like Iraq in the sectarian sense

    So after this it should be easy

    Nazis are no chechens or Iraqi insurgency, they have tattoos and RPG at old grandmas, they will lie down when it's all said and done

    Men tone it down a bit. It's not even been 24 hours. Let's wait for 3-4 days to pass for analysis.
    What i understand, but i'm not happy about is that Russia is showing a little too much restraint against Ukrainian military, especially in the east. I wouldn't like them to lose people over politics. Ukraina has, arguably, most battle hardened forces in the east. Use the air force and hit them hard.

    They already lost people over politics. They lost almost an entire elite VDV unit trying to gamble for a quick victory over Kiev by capturing an airport and flying a bunch of troops in. It failed. Dumb leaders make dumb decisions. This whole situation was a result of bad leadership and this war is looking like it’s not going the way it should due to bad leadership
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    Post  Big_Gazza Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:40 am

    caveat emptor wrote:What i understand, but i'm not happy about is that Russia is showing a little too much restraint against Ukrainian military, especially in the east. I wouldn't like them to lose people over politics. Ukraina has, arguably, most battle hardened forces in the east. Use the air force and hit them hard.

    We're not hearing much about the fighting in the East around Donbass, but i expect it will be getting hot and heavy.  It looks like Russian forces are pursuing a double envelopment on a grand scale, with DPR/LPR forces on the attack to occupy the Banderites and pin them in place, while Russia hammers the enemy with arty, MLRS and CAS.

    DPR forces have apparently broken thru Ukrorat lines and are liberating areas in the rear zone, a sure sign that Banderite resistance is waning (or even collapsing).  

    I think that when the smoke clears, it will be readily apparent that Russia hasn't been at all gentle in dealing with Ukronazi formations Twisted Evil

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    Post  flamming_python Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:43 am

    bitcointrader70 wrote:
    Backman wrote:
    bitcointrader70 wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/warsmonitoring/status/1496960372372385795

    Russia needs to completely destroy Ukraine’s airforce like yesterday. Wtf. Bring in the flankers and su24-34 and destroy all of their planes

    Russia still has a lot to learn and is nowhere near US operational capacity during desert storm 1991.

    Almost no Iraq aircraft were flying after day 1.

    That is totally untrue. The US lost a lot of aircraft in Iraq.

    Anyway do you have an update for us from the ghost of Kiev in his Mig 29 ?

    They lost planes to sams. Almost no planes or anything to Iraqi Air Force. Yeah  Their soldiers were not dying from Iraqi CAS because there was almost no CAS. And the ghost of Kiev is in your ass.

    The Americans didn't give a shit how hard they pummeled Iraq.

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