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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:09 pm

    bitcointrader70 wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:
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    bitcointrader70 wrote:Russia’s military performance is underwhelming. I’m starting to believe westerns that claim Russia can’t go to toe with nato conventional and has to heavily rely on nukes. This has been a disorganized mess by Russia quite frankly.

    And holding the country with such a hostile population will be really hard.

    On a slightly humorous note if I was living in Kiev right now I would be looking to start my own mafia/criminal gang right now with all those weapons they are handing out like candy.

    It has been less than two days. Concrete information is practically nonexistent. I've seen far more actually footage of destroyed or abandoned Ukrainian equipment than I have of Russian equipment. Every single PA from the Ukrainian MoD has been categorically false, and all of the resistance supposedly faced by the Russian forces has turned out to be either nonexistent, or oversold.

    I'd say, based on that, it's necessary to wait and see, to properly determine the outcome of this military venture.

    You seem smart.

    Maybe, just maybe, you should realize you are talking to a fucking idiot that is purposely flooding this thread, along with his cohort Mr "I am Green beret in Iraq" Sieg moron.

    They aren't interested in truth or telling it. They just make shit up, find DCS made propaganda and or post shit from years ago and claim now or is Ukrainian and claim its Russian.

    These guys purposely lie and the more the rest of you dummies keep replying to them, the more they will keep it up and flood the thread.

    Advice: put them on ignore and post real stuff.

    If anybody is a fucking retard it’s you pisdabol. You were all with Garry b, KVS, and archa claiming that Putin wasn’t going to invade and cia and nato and us intelligence were all liars trying to whip up hysteria.

    No invasion no invasion no invasion. Ukraine will collapse on its own. Hurr durr if it would collapse why did Putin invade?

    Than the ridiculous assertions that nato has conceded to Russian demands.

    Hurr durr the rebels can defeat the entire Ukraine army on their own.

    Liars and charlatans with delusions of grandeur. Half the people on this forum.

    NATO has conceded to Russian demands, no presence in Ukraine

    Now for the missiles, a global lockdown is coming

    Would have been easier to sign Ryabkov paper, but this the way its gotta be!

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:09 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:
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    Arkanghelsk wrote:Let's be very clear,  all talk of regaining Ukraine as a friend, is pure OPTIMISM

    The real goals of the operation go back the ultimatum delivered by Ryabkov.

    No NATO expansion, and removal of missiles

    Part 1 has been solved, part 2 we are getting there very soon

    NATO cannot expand , it's done

    If Ukraine turns friendly , great, if not well it doesnt matter as long as it's not a NATO state

    With little to no Russian casualties, the results were definitely worth it because the mission was accomplished 

    Now getting the missiles out, I think that is what is going to shock many western observers on the forum

    We are going to enter a period of DEFCON 1, and I hope everyone is ready for that, champions league, World cup, Eurovision, noone Will participate in it, because as I have said before, those missiles are coming out even if it takes DEFCON 1

    And how does Russia achieve this without permanent military presence in Ukraine? Including the western part of Ukraine.

    It's already been achieved, NATO is out of Ukraine

    A piece of paper is going to keep NATO out of Ukraine?
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    Post  bitcointrader70 Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:11 pm

    Russia had to INVADE and suffer massive sanctions for their to be no nato presence in Ukraine.

    Are you some kind of an imbecile. Thats not concession. Google the definition of the word concession.

    Concession is when Gorbachev destroyed the Oka missile when Reagan asked him to. Thats concession.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:11 pm

    Karl Haushofer wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:
    Karl Haushofer wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:Let's be very clear,  all talk of regaining Ukraine as a friend, is pure OPTIMISM

    The real goals of the operation go back the ultimatum delivered by Ryabkov.

    No NATO expansion, and removal of missiles

    Part 1 has been solved, part 2 we are getting there very soon

    NATO cannot expand , it's done

    If Ukraine turns friendly , great, if not well it doesnt matter as long as it's not a NATO state

    With little to no Russian casualties, the results were definitely worth it because the mission was accomplished 

    Now getting the missiles out, I think that is what is going to shock many western observers on the forum

    We are going to enter a period of DEFCON 1, and I hope everyone is ready for that, champions league, World cup, Eurovision, noone Will participate in it, because as I have said before, those missiles are coming out even if it takes DEFCON 1

    And how does Russia achieve this without permanent military presence in Ukraine? Including the western part of Ukraine.

    It's already been achieved, NATO is out of Ukraine

    A piece of paper is going to keep NATO out of Ukraine?


    No the Russian army already did it

    Are you retarded? Have you been watching your tv ?

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:12 pm

    bitcointrader70 wrote:Russia had to INVADE and suffer massive sanctions for their to be no nato presence in Ukraine.

    Are you some kind of an imbecile. Thats not concession. Google the definition of the word concession.

    Concession is when Gorbachev destroyed the Oka missile when Reagan asked him to. Thats concession.

    Lmfao no way to spin this, Russia has forced capitulation with little losses and 160 kalibr

    Now to remove those missiles

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:13 pm

    VARGR198 wrote:

    Lancet/Kub suicide drones to the rescue, it's a perfect time to employ them here!





    Belarus has RPG drones, they could be useful here.

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:15 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:
    Karl Haushofer wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:
    Karl Haushofer wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:Let's be very clear,  all talk of regaining Ukraine as a friend, is pure OPTIMISM

    The real goals of the operation go back the ultimatum delivered by Ryabkov.

    No NATO expansion, and removal of missiles

    Part 1 has been solved, part 2 we are getting there very soon

    NATO cannot expand , it's done

    If Ukraine turns friendly , great, if not well it doesnt matter as long as it's not a NATO state

    With little to no Russian casualties, the results were definitely worth it because the mission was accomplished 

    Now getting the missiles out, I think that is what is going to shock many western observers on the forum

    We are going to enter a period of DEFCON 1, and I hope everyone is ready for that, champions league, World cup, Eurovision, noone Will participate in it, because as I have said before, those missiles are coming out even if it takes DEFCON 1

    And how does Russia achieve this without permanent military presence in Ukraine? Including the western part of Ukraine.

    It's already been achieved, NATO is out of Ukraine

    A piece of paper is going to keep NATO out of Ukraine?


    No the Russian army already did it

    Are you retarded? Have you been watching your tv ?

    How did Russian army prevent Ukraine from joining NATO in the future?
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    Post  franco Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:16 pm

    From the Canadian contingent about 15 minutes ago

    Gleb Bazov@gbazov

    #UKRAINE/#RUSSIA—BRIEF OVERVIEW:

    1—#Kiev, strikes at military objects
    2—#Zaporozhye, everything quiet
    3—#Mirgorod, strikes at military aerodrome
    4—#Energodar, air defence alarm sounded
    5—#Odessa, quiet, earlier: antiaircraft fire
    6—#Nikolayev, troops landing fighting ongoing
    7—#Kherson, under control by Russian forces
    8—#Mariupol, fighting ongoing
    9—#Kharkov, fighting ongoing
    10—#Sumy, under control by Russian forces
    11—#Chernigov, controlled by Russian forces
    12—#Poltava, Russian troop on the outskirts of city
    13—Russian forces at #Berdyansk, on the way to encircle Mariupol from the rear
    14—#Kiev, Power Station #6 standing, rumours of destruction are false
    15—Internet down in parts, calls are difficult, messengers are working

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    Post  miketheterrible Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:18 pm

    par far wrote:



    Turns out that is wrong. He bailed out from negotiating.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:21 pm

    What I am more concerned of , is the next stage of this

    Putin followed through on his promise to stop NATO expansion

    And he will now definitely get the missiles out of Poland and Romania

    What I am concerned about is that what it will take to remove those missiles will force everyone into metros and bunkers

    A sort of global lockdown

    The Ukrainian operation is sort of a sideshow, kind of like Syria or Georgia

    But when he forces the issue of missile removal, most of the world will be cancelled and not on social media...

    Ukraine will be like Syria for Israel

    Chunks of it have been ripped out, and VKS will fly over Ukraine with impunity 

    UAF is like hamas or hezbollah now just not on the russian border 

    That's how Russia keeps Ukraine out of NATO forever


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    Post  Isos Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:23 pm

    Regular wrote:I am having hard time understanding Ukrainian, what do they say to Russian and what the **** is this?

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1497300029807075331

    Those are ukrainian propaganda video. A lot of them around. Just like those videos where they catch civilians wearing military boots that are supposed to be russian under infiltration

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    Post  miketheterrible Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:25 pm

    Isos wrote:
    Regular wrote:I am having hard time understanding Ukrainian, what do they say to Russian and what the **** is this?

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1497300029807075331

    Those are ukrainian propaganda video. A lot of them around. Just like those videos where they catch civilians wearing military boots that are supposed to be russian under infiltration  

    He just keeps posting these too. He is another one to add to ignore.

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    Post  George1 Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:31 pm

    auslander wrote:
    George1 wrote:our media talk about russian naval infantry assault in Mariupol

    Such as?

    Open TV
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:36 pm

    Flaming Python:

    Putin is not building USSR 2 or Russian empire 2, and he will not be overthrown because he has no intention of doing so

    Putins objectives were very clear

    1) halt NATO expansion

    2) remove NATO missiles from border

    Part 1 has been achieved, you are not going to see an occupation of Ukraine, you will see golanization of Ukraine

    Vks and Kalibr will visit Ukraine indefinitely

    As for part 2, well this involves a much more comprehensive approach which will paralyze most of the global economy

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    Post  George1 Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:40 pm

    Forces groups DPR and LNR continue offensive actions on positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with the fiery support of the Armed forces of the Russian Federation. There is also confiscated weapons. Among the trophies are American anti-tank missile systems Javelin and British NLAW. Details of the progress of the liberating forces on the link -

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    Post  George1 Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:41 pm

    Abandoned Ukrainian T-64BV in Kherson.

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    Post  Hole Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:43 pm

    There are landing heavy An-124 planes of the russian VKS on an airport 25km outside Kiev at the second day of the operation and some imbeciles here talking about a failued adventure by Russia. Rolling Eyes

    The only resistance coming from the Nazi side are at tactical level. Some units keep fighting in some small area. A few guys with an RPG firing at some random russian APC. One artillery gun shooting randomly. That´s it.

    Most of the units are not army units but the ukrainian equivalent of the Waffen-SS.

    At the moment the russian armed forces are jusing like 10 to 15% of their firepower because they want to avoid civilian casualties. They could have done it like NATO, in that case this would be Day 2 of an 30 or 60 day bombing campaign, leveling every military installation + power plants, train stations, civilian airports, media buildings and some random city districts, just for fun.

    This night you will see the next stage of the air assault operation and propably another amphibious assault to close in on the last big cities that are not surrounded by russian troops.

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    Post  George1 Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:44 pm

    The wreckage of the Ukrainian missile complex "Tochka-U" near Donetsk.

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    Post  d_taddei2 Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:45 pm

    Wow this conflict has certainly brought out the trolls.much better with the ignore function being used.

    Handing out rifles to anyone the problem you have with this is civilians with zero training is bad news, not to mention that after the war these will be sold on the black market to Terror groups, or kept for gun nuts to go on a shooting spree in some school. What these civilians haven't been told is as soon as they pick up a weapon and fight they are no longer classed as a civilian but a combatant which makes them a fair target. But of course when they are killed the media will call them civilians forgetting to mention the rifle they removed from the body.

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:47 pm

    Hole wrote:There are landing heavy An-124 planes of the russian VKS on an airport 25km outside Kiev at the second day of the operation and some imbeciles here talking about a failued adventure by Russia. Rolling Eyes


    Let them live.
    Being retarded is already enough pain.
    Besides, AB taught me today about how to block the idiots, so I am in a good mood.

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    Post  mack8 Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:47 pm

    Real face of the "glorious" ukrainian resistance: forced conscriptions at gunpoint
    https://metro.co.uk/2022/02/25/man-who-fled-ukraine-on-foot-says-conscripts-are-dragged-from-families-16176793/

    Like i said, if they have any spine left, they should not fight the russian troops or if they will fight, do so  against the puppet regime in Kiev and it's cronies, so that this will end as soon as possible for the good of everyone in Ukraine (except the american cronies and the banderist puppets that is).


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    Post  Hole Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:47 pm

    Another point: thanks to precision strikes against weapons and fuel depots, most of the Bandera forces at the front lines aren´t receiving any supplies. They will soon be without fuel or ammunition.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:48 pm

    Ukraine last all but 2 or 3 days , it's not so interesting

    As much as the missile removal coming soon

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