Russian special military operation in Ukraine #2

d_taddei2 wrote:Updates


2)Zelensky Reportedly Asks Israeli PM to Mediate Negotiations With Russia

5) Zelensky's Press Secretary: Kiev Ready to Discuss Ceasefire & Peace (15 minutes ago)


I don't think Russia is interested to negotiate anymore as Kiev is playing games.

Karl Haushofer wrote:

Airbornewolf wrote:Do not get me started about all the faked "messages" by people.

Some dumb singer on national TV in tears singing some song "this is for you ukraine".
Indeed, like mentioned earlier lets change all our profile picture, And change our buildings in yellow-blue.

"such an powerfull signal"

"this is the ghost of Kiev, our avenging angel".

Or politicians that even dare to compare Putin to Hitler and "worst thing in europe since 1945".
If i read western (social) media more....i need an bottle of vodka to cope with all the propaganda and fake as shit people.

i have seen crazy with the reunification of Crimea, but now the propaganda machine's cogs go in overdrive.

A lot of co-workers cant shut up bringing up the war all the time.
And of course, i dont want to interact. but i have to give my opinion at some point:

several coworkers stay silent. but start emailing to ask me to alternative media sites and if i have more footage to see.
But...yes. The west has gone insane. it makes you wonder if the hard lessons of ww2 is all for nothing.

European Countries mulling an total visa ban for russian citizens was mentioned....
Seriously, what is next?. re-starting the concentration camps?. instead of an yellow star, we are going to slap an red one on them?.
Even saying such things should be enough to be removed out of politics.

NATO arms the shit out of nazi's, and let them loose on the russian speaking ukrainian population knowingly and willingly.
History is being erased and re-written to suit narratives and as long NATO does it, you better support it.
You are either for everything NATO does, or you are against them. Because the whole world is out to get NATO in their minds.

Sounds familiar. What country do you live in?

Airbornewolf wrote:

Karl Haushofer wrote:

Airbornewolf wrote:Do not get me started about all the faked "messages" by people.

Some dumb singer on national TV in tears singing some song "this is for you ukraine".
Indeed, like mentioned earlier lets change all our profile picture, And change our buildings in yellow-blue.

"such an powerfull signal"

"this is the ghost of Kiev, our avenging angel".

Or politicians that even dare to compare Putin to Hitler and "worst thing in europe since 1945".
If i read western (social) media more....i need an bottle of vodka to cope with all the propaganda and fake as shit people.

i have seen crazy with the reunification of Crimea, but now the propaganda machine's cogs go in overdrive.

A lot of co-workers cant shut up bringing up the war all the time.
And of course, i dont want to interact. but i have to give my opinion at some point:

several coworkers stay silent. but start emailing to ask me to alternative media sites and if i have more footage to see.
But...yes. The west has gone insane. it makes you wonder if the hard lessons of ww2 is all for nothing.

European Countries mulling an total visa ban for russian citizens was mentioned....
Seriously, what is next?. re-starting the concentration camps?. instead of an yellow star, we are going to slap an red one on them?.
Even saying such things should be enough to be removed out of politics.

NATO arms the shit out of nazi's, and let them loose on the russian speaking ukrainian population knowingly and willingly.
History is being erased and re-written to suit narratives and as long NATO does it, you better support it.
You are either for everything NATO does, or you are against them. Because the whole world is out to get NATO in their minds.

Sounds familiar. What country do you live in?

The one that is on the north sea in western europe and is mostly below sea-level.

Airbornewolf wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

d_taddei2 wrote:Updates


2)Zelensky Reportedly Asks Israeli PM to Mediate Negotiations With Russia

5) Zelensky's Press Secretary: Kiev Ready to Discuss Ceasefire & Peace (15 minutes ago)


I don't think Russia is interested to negotiate anymore as Kiev is playing games.

It is in my opinion not important if Zelensky wants to talk or not.
There will be a point where the government and resistance will fall apart.
Besides i do not think the nazi's in goverment will surrender.

Russia can continue its operation as planned, And do not need to conform to Zelensky's weird "third party assurances".
Russia takes his millitary and associates apart piece by piece while he is looking for an saviour outside Ukraine that will never come.

EkErilaz wrote:

Airbornewolf wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

d_taddei2 wrote:Updates


2)Zelensky Reportedly Asks Israeli PM to Mediate Negotiations With Russia

5) Zelensky's Press Secretary: Kiev Ready to Discuss Ceasefire & Peace (15 minutes ago)


I don't think Russia is interested to negotiate anymore as Kiev is playing games.

It is in my opinion not important if Zelensky wants to talk or not.
There will be a point where the government and resistance will fall apart.
Besides i do not think the nazi's in goverment will surrender.

Russia can continue its operation as planned, And do not need to conform to Zelensky's weird "third party assurances".
Russia takes his millitary and associates apart piece by piece while he is looking for an saviour outside Ukraine that will never come.

The one thing that kind of scares me is that as you said in the other post, the effing propaganda in the west is working. People are turning into pro ukrainian zombies.  
If the demand from the population for an intervention becomes loud enough, the filthy politicians will start to worry about ratings.. And, that might be it..

Karl Haushofer wrote:

EkErilaz wrote:

Airbornewolf wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

d_taddei2 wrote:Updates


2)Zelensky Reportedly Asks Israeli PM to Mediate Negotiations With Russia

5) Zelensky's Press Secretary: Kiev Ready to Discuss Ceasefire & Peace (15 minutes ago)


I don't think Russia is interested to negotiate anymore as Kiev is playing games.

It is in my opinion not important if Zelensky wants to talk or not.
There will be a point where the government and resistance will fall apart.
Besides i do not think the nazi's in goverment will surrender.

Russia can continue its operation as planned, And do not need to conform to Zelensky's weird "third party assurances".
Russia takes his millitary and associates apart piece by piece while he is looking for an saviour outside Ukraine that will never come.

The one thing that kind of scares me is that as you said in the other post, the effing propaganda in the west is working. People are turning into pro ukrainian zombies.  
If the demand from the population for an intervention becomes loud enough, the filthy politicians will start to worry about ratings.. And, that might be it..

Putin did say that Russia will use nukes in that scenario.

EkErilaz wrote:

Karl Haushofer wrote:

EkErilaz wrote:

Airbornewolf wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

d_taddei2 wrote:Updates


2)Zelensky Reportedly Asks Israeli PM to Mediate Negotiations With Russia

5) Zelensky's Press Secretary: Kiev Ready to Discuss Ceasefire & Peace (15 minutes ago)


I don't think Russia is interested to negotiate anymore as Kiev is playing games.

It is in my opinion not important if Zelensky wants to talk or not.
There will be a point where the government and resistance will fall apart.
Besides i do not think the nazi's in goverment will surrender.

Russia can continue its operation as planned, And do not need to conform to Zelensky's weird "third party assurances".
Russia takes his millitary and associates apart piece by piece while he is looking for an saviour outside Ukraine that will never come.

The one thing that kind of scares me is that as you said in the other post, the effing propaganda in the west is working. People are turning into pro ukrainian zombies.  
If the demand from the population for an intervention becomes loud enough, the filthy politicians will start to worry about ratings.. And, that might be it..

Putin did say that Russia will use nukes in that scenario.

Yes, and did they ever listen to what he said??

Karl Haushofer wrote:

EkErilaz wrote:

Karl Haushofer wrote:

EkErilaz wrote:

Airbornewolf wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

d_taddei2 wrote:Updates


2)Zelensky Reportedly Asks Israeli PM to Mediate Negotiations With Russia

5) Zelensky's Press Secretary: Kiev Ready to Discuss Ceasefire & Peace (15 minutes ago)


I don't think Russia is interested to negotiate anymore as Kiev is playing games.

It is in my opinion not important if Zelensky wants to talk or not.
There will be a point where the government and resistance will fall apart.
Besides i do not think the nazi's in goverment will surrender.

Russia can continue its operation as planned, And do not need to conform to Zelensky's weird "third party assurances".
Russia takes his millitary and associates apart piece by piece while he is looking for an saviour outside Ukraine that will never come.

The one thing that kind of scares me is that as you said in the other post, the effing propaganda in the west is working. People are turning into pro ukrainian zombies.  
If the demand from the population for an intervention becomes loud enough, the filthy politicians will start to worry about ratings.. And, that might be it..

Putin did say that Russia will use nukes in that scenario.

Yes, and did they ever listen to what he said??

For the world's sake I hope they did this time.

Of course none of us we really know whether Putin was bluffing or not. I kind of hope he wasn't.

EkErilaz wrote:

Airbornewolf wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

d_taddei2 wrote:Updates


2)Zelensky Reportedly Asks Israeli PM to Mediate Negotiations With Russia

5) Zelensky's Press Secretary: Kiev Ready to Discuss Ceasefire & Peace (15 minutes ago)


I don't think Russia is interested to negotiate anymore as Kiev is playing games.

It is in my opinion not important if Zelensky wants to talk or not.
There will be a point where the government and resistance will fall apart.
Besides i do not think the nazi's in goverment will surrender.

Russia can continue its operation as planned, And do not need to conform to Zelensky's weird "third party assurances".
Russia takes his millitary and associates apart piece by piece while he is looking for an saviour outside Ukraine that will never come.

The one thing that kind of scares me is that as you said in the other post, the effing propaganda in the west is working. People are turning into pro ukrainian zombies.  
If the demand from the population for an intervention becomes loud enough, the filthy politicians will start to worry about ratings.. And, that might be it..

Airbornewolf wrote:

I agree,
Like you i am planning on moving out of western europe too for the exact same reasons.
There will come an point they go way too far with this absolute anti-russia / china hysteria and will pay the price for it.
They already now went too far that resulted in war, and they still are just going on shipping weapons and warmongering.

I do not see this get better either in the west,... and the defense minister here already cancelled leave for all troops as the rumour goes.
And floated the idea of conscription, and technically they can order me back in service as well.
Of course i refuse to take any part in this insanity. But i rather get called up to serve for Russia, than this absolute warmongering monster NATO.

you just notice here in western society it becomes more and more like George Orwells 1984.
sprinkled with "inclusivity". "values" and "freedom".

Moving to another country is an big undertaking, and needs to be properly prepared.
But i am going to give it my best. i just do not see an good end to all of this for the West.

Werewolf wrote:

Karl Haushofer wrote:

EkErilaz wrote:

Karl Haushofer wrote:

EkErilaz wrote:

Airbornewolf wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

d_taddei2 wrote:Updates


2)Zelensky Reportedly Asks Israeli PM to Mediate Negotiations With Russia

5) Zelensky's Press Secretary: Kiev Ready to Discuss Ceasefire & Peace (15 minutes ago)


I don't think Russia is interested to negotiate anymore as Kiev is playing games.

It is in my opinion not important if Zelensky wants to talk or not.
There will be a point where the government and resistance will fall apart.
Besides i do not think the nazi's in goverment will surrender.

Russia can continue its operation as planned, And do not need to conform to Zelensky's weird "third party assurances".
Russia takes his millitary and associates apart piece by piece while he is looking for an saviour outside Ukraine that will never come.

The one thing that kind of scares me is that as you said in the other post, the effing propaganda in the west is working. People are turning into pro ukrainian zombies.  
If the demand from the population for an intervention becomes loud enough, the filthy politicians will start to worry about ratings.. And, that might be it..

Putin did say that Russia will use nukes in that scenario.

Yes, and did they ever listen to what he said??

For the world's sake I hope they did this time.

Of course none of us we really know whether Putin was bluffing or not. I kind of hope he wasn't.

I think tactical nukes are very much possible within a foreseeable future and I am not happy about it because there are only a hand few legitimate targets and I am to close to one.

d_taddei2 wrote:At least Dell put sanctions on both countries and not Russia alone.

Updates

1) Zelensky Says Upcoming Night Will Be Difficult, Adds Kiev Cannot Be Lost

2)Dell Suspends Product Sales in Russia & Ukraine, Will Continue to Closely Monitor Situation to Determine Next Steps

Isos wrote:I have the feeling they want to geolocate the call and kalibrate him.


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Ukraine and Russia are discussing place and time for talks - Reuters, citing Zelenskiy's spokesman

Karl Haushofer wrote:

Of course none of use wants Russia to use tactical nukes.

But if the West does a direct military intervention - for example launches ballistic missiles against Russian military targets in Russia or Ukraine - then Russia should immediately respond with nukes against US and British targets inside the United States and Britain. Anything less would be a capitulation.