Russian special military operation in Ukraine #3

miketheterrible wrote:

flamming_python wrote:

Urluber wrote:

Karl Haushofer wrote:How about stopping the invasion and going back to Russia?

Accept defeat and leave.

Better do it now than after three or ten years with thousands of more dead Russians.

It was a terrible idea to invade in the first place.

Come on.
There's no way Russia will loose this. It's just a question of why the deciding characters do not increase the airstrikes, missile strikes, artillery bombardment and so on. Are they really trusting in negotiations or just some strategy we do not understand yet. No one of us knows.

If Russia stopped the operation now it would be a total disaster. Possibly the last one. Then no one would be happy; neither the liberals nor the hardliners. And Russia still being cut off from the western systems. 90s would be nothing in comparison.
It could even lead to disarmament of Russia. Strip it off from nuclear weapons, that is. Of course "voluntarily", the western-installed guy (whoever that would be) in Kremlin would sign it in order to guarantee "the world community" Russia will never ever again threaten the world peace.
That will not happen. Russia has laid the demands on table; disarmament of Kievan forces and denazification. The mission will be fulfilled. Point of turning back has long been crossed.

That's true. No turning back now. Although I do hope somehow, that an agreement can be reached.

But Putin does need to leave after this. And stand trial eventually. Because all this shit is a massive crime, that is going to lead to misery for millions of people. Not by the hands of Russian soldiers - but then it doesn't matter, if it's Russian actions that destabilized the Ukraine to this wild extent.

Sure. Right after Bush, Blair, Harper, Cheney, Merkel, Sarkozy, etc all stand on trial for Afghanistan and Iraq, then we can talk. Otherwise, stop making yourself look fucking stupid. I know you are smarter than this.

Edit: should also mention Clinton and the ilk in Yugoslavia,
Somalia, Libya, Sudan, and the rest of the "uncivilized" world.

I assume you are a racist too right? They don't matter cause they aren't blond hair blue eyed European?

mnztr wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

flamming_python wrote:

Urluber wrote:

Karl Haushofer wrote:How about stopping the invasion and going back to Russia?

Accept defeat and leave.

Better do it now than after three or ten years with thousands of more dead Russians.

It was a terrible idea to invade in the first place.

Come on.
There's no way Russia will loose this. It's just a question of why the deciding characters do not increase the airstrikes, missile strikes, artillery bombardment and so on. Are they really trusting in negotiations or just some strategy we do not understand yet. No one of us knows.

If Russia stopped the operation now it would be a total disaster. Possibly the last one. Then no one would be happy; neither the liberals nor the hardliners. And Russia still being cut off from the western systems. 90s would be nothing in comparison.
It could even lead to disarmament of Russia. Strip it off from nuclear weapons, that is. Of course "voluntarily", the western-installed guy (whoever that would be) in Kremlin would sign it in order to guarantee "the world community" Russia will never ever again threaten the world peace.
That will not happen. Russia has laid the demands on table; disarmament of Kievan forces and denazification. The mission will be fulfilled. Point of turning back has long been crossed.

That's true. No turning back now. Although I do hope somehow, that an agreement can be reached.

But Putin does need to leave after this. And stand trial eventually. Because all this shit is a massive crime, that is going to lead to misery for millions of people. Not by the hands of Russian soldiers - but then it doesn't matter, if it's Russian actions that destabilized the Ukraine to this wild extent.

Sure. Right after Bush, Blair, Harper, Cheney, Merkel, Sarkozy, etc all stand on trial for Afghanistan and Iraq, then we can talk. Otherwise, stop making yourself look fucking stupid. I know you are smarter than this.

Edit: should also mention Clinton and the ilk in Yugoslavia,
Somalia, Libya, Sudan, and the rest of the "uncivilized" world.

I assume you are a racist too right? They don't matter cause they aren't blond hair blue eyed European?

Many Syrians are blond and blue eyed. Yet they were slaughtered all the same.

miketheterrible wrote:

Orlan wrote:https://www.facebook.com/GerasymenkoIhor/videos/679362330162214/

Many TB2 videos started to leak.

Once again, how accurate are they? Remember Libya and Syria where people were using footage from all over the place?

Orlan wrote:

Many TB2 videos started to leak.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:1. Those are Russian trucks.

2. The operators are speaking Ukrainian.

3. Everything looks right.

So no chances of that being fake are very very slim

Orlan wrote:https://www.facebook.com/GerasymenkoIhor/videos/679362330162214/

Many TB2 videos started to leak.

mnztr wrote:

Orlan wrote:https://www.facebook.com/GerasymenkoIhor/videos/679362330162214/

Many TB2 videos started to leak.

When Russia can strike bases with impunity the TB2s cannot really mount any sustained threat. Russia knows where they land and a missile strike will be inbound.

mnztr wrote:

When Russia can strike bases with impunity the TB2s cannot really mount any sustained threat. Russia knows where they land and a missile strike will be inbound.

miketheterrible wrote:

Orlan wrote:https://www.facebook.com/GerasymenkoIhor/videos/679362330162214/

Many TB2 videos started to leak.

Once again, how accurate are they? Remember Libya and Syria where people were using footage from all over the place?

miketheterrible wrote:

Orlan wrote:https://www.facebook.com/GerasymenkoIhor/videos/679362330162214/

Many TB2 videos started to leak.

Once again, how accurate are they? Remember Libya and Syria where people were using footage from all over the place?

mnztr wrote:

Orlan wrote:https://www.facebook.com/GerasymenkoIhor/videos/679362330162214/

Many TB2 videos started to leak.

When Russia can strike bases with impunity the TB2s cannot really mount any sustained threat. Russia knows where they land and a missile strike will be inbound.

Arsenic wrote:

mnztr wrote:

When Russia can strike bases with impunity the TB2s cannot really mount any sustained threat. Russia knows where they land and a missile strike will be inbound.

It must. The Ukrainians only have 12 TB2. They must destroy them all.

Orlan wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

Orlan wrote:https://www.facebook.com/GerasymenkoIhor/videos/679362330162214/

Many TB2 videos started to leak.

Once again, how accurate are they? Remember Libya and Syria where people were using footage from all over the place?

This one seems genuine, check whole video.

miketheterrible wrote:

Orlan wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

Orlan wrote:https://www.facebook.com/GerasymenkoIhor/videos/679362330162214/

Many TB2 videos started to leak.

Once again, how accurate are they? Remember Libya and Syria where people were using footage from all over the place?

This one seems genuine, check whole video.

I can't, I don't have Facebook.

I do light video editing. It wouldn't be hard for me to superimpose audio. Especially since they are taking time to "leak" the info which indicates they are hiding something.

Finty wrote:More TB2 footage. Light em up.

Finty wrote:

Finty wrote:More TB2 footage. Light em up.

https://twitter.com/Ukraine_AF/status/1497853318458232837

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1498011742634397699

Ukraine launches a website to help Russian families find their relatives killed in combat.

The Interior Ministry has launched http://200rf.com, where it publishes photos and documents of the dead and captured Russian soldiers.

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1497871771466412039
https://200rf.com/

par far wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

Orlan wrote:https://www.facebook.com/GerasymenkoIhor/videos/679362330162214/

Many TB2 videos started to leak.

Once again, how accurate are they? Remember Libya and Syria where people were using footage from all over the place?

There is a lot of misinformation, you need to know where to look.

On this forum, we see that people that never fired a weapon, have become generals.

Twitter is deleting anything Ukraine related, they deleted my posts

Facebook is doing the same, a argument, I was having is deleted.

RT is not working, Sputnik is working so far.

Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:

par far wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

Orlan wrote:https://www.facebook.com/GerasymenkoIhor/videos/679362330162214/

Many TB2 videos started to leak.

Once again, how accurate are they? Remember Libya and Syria where people were using footage from all over the place?

There is a lot of misinformation, you need to know where to look.

On this forum, we see that people that never fired a weapon, have become generals.

Twitter is deleting anything Ukraine related, they deleted my posts

Facebook is doing the same, a argument, I was having is deleted.

RT is not working, Sputnik is working so far.

What do we see? A truck is blown up. Rest? Side of the killed. Effects? Military = zero. Propaganda? Yes. Zombie food.

Dear General Staff. Panzir and Tor should form a chain. What is so hard to keep these annoying mosquitoes at a distance?

But the country is big, very big. It is also necessary to cover NATO flanks with TorM and PanzirM. That's more important. This is just mosquito bites. Not more.

More important is to mask the MI-8 attacks of Ukraine. That's a no-go.

More importantly, to locate and destroy the drones control headquarters. But this will be in the west of Ukraine or even in Poland. But, that has to be switched off now, with the picture and sound and this beautifully clearly clearly becomes something.