Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4

This is basically a state building operation, with new state creation

Russia didnt go in there to just leave, it went in there to orient New Russia towards Russian Federation

500 guys didnt die for that, and Russians will remain forever in places like Odessa, Kherson, Kharkov, Chernobyl, Zapirizhia NPP

Russia does not need puppet states like the US needs them, they prefer friendly or neutral states they can cooperate with.

This was not an expansion of the Soviet Union, this was a clean out operation to allow their neighbours get out from under the thumb of the nazis the west put them under.

Russia is not replacing one thumb with theirs, they are smacking away the western thumb and allowing the locals have a voice on their own future... their experience of western hospitality likely leading neutral or pro Russian stances in most of the regions... breaking the country into blocks means one minority cannot force the rest to follow its unpopular lead... let the western regions get sucked in by EU and western BS... they can have no relations with Russia and hard borders with their new neighbours.

Their last card to play is to try and get nato involved and that can only be done by playing the NATO populations feelings.

Pretty sure Putin has recognised the west is the US and Russia has no future there... they have no way of influencing western populations any more except those still watching RT and Sputnik.

If Ukraine is left intact after Russia goes home the invasion would have been done for nothing.

Ukraine must be split. Any other solution means that Russia suffers a defeat.

Russia has already won... ties with the US and EU and HATO are broken and will not be restored any time soon and the next period of time will be Russia reaching out to the rest of the world to trade and improve relations and fill gaps the west used to fill.

The war will be over when there is no trending about it on twitter. I think ukrainians understand that and that's why they use it so much.

The west has a very short attention span...

Latest interview from Zelensky shows him slurring words, bobbing his head and looking like he is drugged up. Things are going south.

He is dressed like he is in a bar having a drink... not interested in picking up women... not like a president at all.

It would have been best if Russia stayed within her borders yes

If Kiev had done what it promised to do at Minsk then that option would make sense... the current situation however is because they thought it was a joke and they had 8 years practise baiting the bear and thinking they had HATO to protect them and that the world would not tolerate an actual Russian invasion.

Kiev has been claiming the Russians have already invaded Ukraine... Crimea and Donbass and Lugansk... they clearly weren't expecting this, but obviously expected rather more help if this happened.

Now would be a good time for a ceasefire to be honest

Yeah, when you bake a cake and you break some eggs and get some flour everwhere... that is when you stop making the cake because you made your mess and that was the whole point of the situation...

There are state level politicians in the west calling for assassination of president of the Russia. I don't know if you follow western media sphere or not but world has not witnessed anything like this since the days of Goebbels. They are after Russia. This is not about Kievans anymore.

To be clear it is only western politicians who are playing up for their masters in Washington in the hopes they might get a Scoobie Snack down the road...

It is misused, wrong, and put on a bad cause - but he gets my respect as a leader. Sadly.

It was within his power to implement the agreements from Minsk and he failed... their blood is on his hands.

ZelenskyyUa "If you can't close the sky now, then give a deadline when it will happen.If you can't do it now, tell how many people have to explode,how many arms, legs, heads have to fly to reach you Tell me how many. I'll go to count and wait for this moment."

But according to idiots here the Russians don't have air control and are not using air power or drones... why would he think HATO taking command of the air would make any difference... but it is amusing he thinks they could manage that though...

Personally tough, with all the executions and mass graves i see pass by. i have no sympathy for him. as he did not show any of this to his own people in the East.

Truth is the first casualty of war, but it does not have to be.

Zelensky could be open and honest and say he wanted peace but nazi factions and nazi supporting oligarchs and our western allies did not want peace, they wanted to draw Russia into a major war and by fighting back there is no chance you can win, only that you die and our country gets destroyed in the process.

We needed rather more open and honest talks with Russia and the breakaway regions and we didn't have them and this is what we have forced them into doing.

But that coward didn't have the balls to stand up to the west to avoid his country being used as a door ram, and he didn't have the spine to stand up to the anti Russian factions in his own country and do what was best for most of them.

Now they have seen they can chisel away year after year, decade after decade.
They aren't scared of Russia.. or so it would seem.

And they still don't seem too upset and continue fanning the flames and throwing fuel on the fire... perhaps cutting off gas and oil right now would be a good attention getter... nothing makes your eyes water like having your balls squashed...

But he had no guts to grab the balls of nazis and squeeze them.
Probably, he was jus an hostage of masters of the puppets back there, and could do shit.
Still, I feel pity for him.

If I had a job to do and found I could not do it I would quit and make the reasons very clear as to why I quit.

No pity for this idiot, he is responsible for a lot of death and destruction that was totally avoidable...

I feel bad man, too much drugs

The drug of western riches and promises and they believed it

You can't berate the drug addict without thoughts of ill will toward the supplier who trapped him with their addictive destructive drugs and advice.

So now we are losing generals su30s and su 34s.

That was an F-117 wing... and fighting on the front line is the way the airborne does it.

UKROP TROLL STOP POSTING UKROP NAZI PROPAGANDA /s

Russia is taking heavy losses and everyone in the world seems to know it except the knuckleheads on this forum.

All the Ukraine has now is propaganda, which is represented ATM on this forum by you and your friend...

I thought those are Russians assaulting buildings

Just watched western media claiming it was Russia, but why would Russian forces shell a nuclear power station?

Ukrainian Neo-Nazi Battalion "Azov" Murdering Civilians Attempting to Leave the City of Mariupol.

I liked this post because it reveals the true nature of these nazis, not because they are murdering people and trying to use them as shields to kill more people.

Wondering why the combat helos are not active.

Why on earth would you think they are not active?

Ok, good luck getting medical treatment if they become injured and disabled in this war. No one will pay their family out if they will die too. I understand Ukrainians leaving Canada to fight, but those Don Quixotes can end up in hell they never imagined possible.

Nobody volunteers for war expecting to get injured or killed... you are the good guys with right on your side... you are going to kill the bad guys.

Real life is different of course but they wont listen till they experience it which makes it too late most of the time.

...Some people hear some unverified BS and it is always Putins fault and the Russian military is shit.

What is wrong with you... you know Putin and the Russian military can't control reality 100% and that sometimes the west and the orcs have to take responsiblity for their choices too... they are the ones ordering people like us in the Ukraine and even around the world to take up arms and fight the Russian Army.... a similar call to take up arms and go to Iraq or Syria or Afghanistan to fight HATO forces would be called treason and also a bit naive and stupid... something likely to get you killed...

Well I mean western leaders never make mistakes and western wars go perfectly without error, but when they do make mistakes there is no demand for heads to roll... I don't understand what is wrong with some of these people...

It is funny, Zelensky wants HATO to close Orc airspace but these idiots think Russian helicopters and drones and strike aircraft are sitting this out...

Ahh well.

Very nervous myself, as nervous as when I heard Russia was going in to Syria... I initially thought both were stupid things to be doing but then now we know what is happening and what has happened then I think Putin was given little other choice in both situations... the word of the west is meaningless and there is no respect or mercy...

A future with no ties left to the west will be interesting... everyone talks about Russia collapsing under sanctions, but ignore what the west will go through... remember people in the west complained about not being able to go get coffee every morning during the pandemic, or having to wear face masks because they are uncomfortable...

There was a second unfinished Mriya that was stored but I have no idea if this airframe still exist?

Some good news is that the Zaporizhzhi nuclear plant has been secured by Russian forces - again.

https://southfront.org/russian-forces-secure-zaporizhzhia-nuclear-power-plant-expand-control-zone-near-kyiv-video/

In the morning of March 4, the Ukrainian authorities that remain in Zaporizhzhia Region confirmed that Russian forces have established control of Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant located at the town of Enerdogdar. The Ukrainian side added that the plant is manned by local workers and the facility works without incidents.

Russian troops established control of the facility and secured it after a series of clashes with the Ukrainian Army and so-called territorial defense units. These units had positions just in the vicinity of the plant. This allowed Zelensky government to speculate that the Russian advance may endanger the nuclear plant.