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Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4

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Big_Gazza Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:21 am

kvs wrote:Scott Ritter's view that there is a lack of insurgency potential is mostly right. But I disagree with him when
it comes to the Polish border zone.

Agreed, but the solution is clear. Adopt US philosophies in this regard. Create a desert, and call it "peace"... Twisted Evil

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kvs Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:25 am

I think the reason for the 8 year gap in response to 2014 is a combination of

1) Over-dependence in 2014 on western economic links, which has been rectified sufficiently to weather the coming shock.

2) Urgency to act now since the US was planning major moves with a combination of nuclear weapons and biowarfare
provocations. So the US itself was not quite ready in 2014 to fully integrate Ukria into NATzO as a missile base against Russia.

The two curves crossed and we got what we now have. One of the reasons for the US moves is driven by internal US
political and economic issues. Putin had to give the US this "win", but sitting to the side with some "principles" BS would
have produced much worse costs for Russia and Ukrainians.

All the criticism of Putin's actions are garbage sitting on garbage assumptions. Fobbing off the biowarfare labs and the
clear move to nuclear weapons by Zelensky is automatic loss of argument. These two factors alone are more than enough
cause for a regime change operation.

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Arkanghelsk Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:25 am

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Pidor is faggot in Ukr hahahahahaha if this is real, damn this shit made me laugh

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Big_Gazza Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:30 am

Yeah, "faggot" looks be most appropriate. This clown will likely get knifed by his new "friends"... oh well, thats how natural selection works, the dumb ones get removed from the gene pool by their own stupid actions... Razz

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ArgentinaGuard Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:38 am

Arkanghelsk wrote:

Pidor is faggot in Ukr hahahahahaha if this is real, damn this shit made me laugh

The Chechens must take care of this.

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rigoletto Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:38 am

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

Regular wrote:[. Nothing that VPN can solve.

Russians don't use DPI tech to cut off VPNs if needed?

VPN is, in short, an encrypted tunnel. DPI (Deep Package Inspection) cannot inspect anything of it since this is encrypted[1], and in fact VPN is often used to circumvent DPI.

[EDIT]

I'm assuming the VPN user isn't using something outdated like PPTP or L2TP but properly obfuscating it.

E.g. using OpenVPN in a way it looks like a regular HTTPS connection.

[1] unless the people behind the DPI installation somehow have the keys.

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sundoesntrise Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:40 am

Message from Igor Strelkov.

"War has no rules. The essence of war is violence. Self-restraint in war is idiocy. Strike first, strike hard, strike without rest.” - Admiral Sir John Abertnot Fisher, Commander-in-Chief of the British Navy before the 1st World War.

But our idiots do not care about the opinions of people who are much more intelligent, educated, talented and even much more successful than themselves. Simply because they are idiots."

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Big_Gazza Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:48 am

Andrei Martyanov hits the ball outta the park again Very Happy

I love how the smart honest people like grumpy grandpa have the goods to utterly debunk the hysterical nonsense from the the nefarious Lords of Lies...

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sundoesntrise Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:53 am

Update from Strelkov.

Summary. 10th day of the war

Southern front:
The left flank (Nikolaev-Krivoy Rog) - I don’t have any clear information. Only not quite intelligible reports about the activity of the RF Armed Forces in the suburbs of Nikolaev itself. Apparently - the situation without significant changes.

Right flank (from Vasilievka to Pologi).
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, after connecting with the Armed Forces of the DPR in the Mariupol region, as expected, launched an offensive to the north-west and yesterday occupied the town of Pologi and a number of settlements in its area. The city is important as a road junction. Further movement, most likely, will be directed to Gulyai-Pole and further to the rear of the AFU grouping retreating from the southern part of Donbass.

DNR front. On the outskirts of Mariupol, positional battles continued yesterday at previously reached positions. In Volnovakha - fierce street fighting continued all day yesterday (reports of complete control over the city turned out to be unreliable). The Armed Forces of the DPR control approximately three-quarters of the city territory, but the Nazi battalion "Donbass" ("glorified" by the genocide of the Russian population) surrounded by the remaining Nazi battalion is not going to surrender, since it does not count on mercy. In this regard, the battles are fierce, the DPR infantry suffers significant losses. To the west and northwest of Volnovakha, the DPR Armed Forces continue to gradually move forward.
In the rest of the sectors - no changes, the enemy continues artillery shelling of positions and settlements. Russian aviation is working on artillery and positions of ukrov

Front of the LPR. Completely unclear situation. According to reports "from Konashenkov", the front passes along the line "Yampol-Krasny Liman" and approaches Slavyansk, Izyum and Kramatorsk. Meanwhile, there have been no reports of the occupation of either Krasny Liman or Yampol yet. (Apparently, Konashenkov forgot to add the definition "exclusively", which is important when determining positions - meaning that the front passes along the line of settlements still occupied by the enemy). There is no advance of our troops in the area of Severodonetsk.

Central front.
In the area of Kharkov and in the city itself - fighting. The city is still NOT blocked from the southwest. There are no changes in Sumy and Chernihiv. Probably, preparations for their assault / mopping up continue. For the area east of Kyiv - I have no information at the moment.

Right Bank Front.
Yesterday, fighting continued all day in the area of the settlement. Bucha (a suburb of Kyiv), where the enemy tried to push back our troops with a counterattack. The results are not known with certainty. Most likely, the front remained approximately at the same positions that the RF Armed Forces reached earlier. In general - the front without significant changes.

Overall rating:
Russian troops still have the initiative, but operational successes continue only on the Southern Front (occupation of Pologi). On the Donetsk front - tactical successes, the grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine still holds the main positions along the line west of Dokuchaevsk-Donetsk-Gorlovka-Debaltseve-Seversky Donets. There is still no reason to talk about her imminent encirclement. At the same time, the deep coverage of the southern flank of the Armed Forces of Ukraine should force the enemy to continue to gradually withdraw its forces from the Donbass, leaving garrisons of "suicide bombers" in important settlements in order to solve two problems at once: 1)delay the advance of the allied forces as long as possible and inflict the greatest losses on them; 2) take revenge on the population of Donbass for their defeat, destroying the region as much as possible

Final output:
The offensive of the RF Armed Forces "slips" in most areas. Operational successes still did not develop into strategic ones and into the defeat of the main groupings of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Preparations are being made to bring the "second echelon" into battle to solve strategic tasks within the second stage of the operation.

P.S. 1. There is no doubt that the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the terbats suffered much greater losses than the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the Armed Forces of the LDNR, especially in military equipment. In principle, there can be no talk of any "seizure of the initiative" by the enemy. The Armed Forces of Ukraine are only capable of more or less stubbornly and (in places) actively defending themselves.

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sundoesntrise Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:58 am

Ukrainian tranny wanted to escape to Poland but got turned back because he's a conscript.

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miketheterrible Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:59 am

Big_Gazza wrote:Andrei Martyanov hits the ball outta the park again I love how the smart honest people like grumpy grandpa have the goods to utterly debunk the hysterical nonsense from the the nefarious Lords of Lies...

Mr smoothie used to be a member here. Wish he still posted. He was on mp.net. he always had solid info.

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Werewolf Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:01 am

flamming_python wrote:

Fully agree on the inadmissibility of such 'talk'

Much has been said about the division of Ukrainians away from Russians by their own state. But little has been said about all sorts of anti-Ukrainian bullshit in Russia itself. Of which Arkhangelsk is a victim.
Which does not exist on the official level, but there are all sorts of such 'patriots' and nationalists spreading nonsense.

Nobody is immune to lunatics amongst their own.

flamming_python wrote:
And the Russian nationalist narrative about all of the Ukraine being 'Russian' lands does not help

What everyone must understand is that before the revolution, 'Russian' referred to all the people of Rus'. That is to say Great Russians, Little Russians and Belorussians; which the Russian people were divided into. Their state was Tsarist Russia. But in this state, the distinction between Great Russians and Little Russians was always recognized as well, and which people inhabited which lands.

What the Bolsheviks did was rename Great Russians into Russians, and Little Russians into Ukrainians (the Great and Little refers to the geography of their respective domains BTW).
Although the name 'Ukrainians' did exist well before the Bolsheviks as well of course, but in Tsarist times this was only used as a colloquial moniker at most.

So it is incorrect to say that the Ukraine is an artificial country. It is the national state of the Little Russians.
Just as 'Russia' of today is the national state of the Great Russians. Neither is inherently any more legitimate than the other.

I am aware of the history of Rus' or Russians and that only shows that we are one and the same people, which completely contradicts western nonsense of division rhetoric calling "ethnic ukrainians" vs "ethnic russians" and the ukrainian propaganda that they are completely unrelated to us. Regarding your argument, that Ukraine is our land I have to disagree with you. Since Ukrainians, Belorussians and Russians are the same and have been historically always the same it is indeed in all our interest to not split further into meaningless smaller nations that will only insist who is the Original and who is the downwashed-clone. It is understandable that the current political, economical and military situation does not give us the fair chance to reunite what is ours and who is ours. In addition to the current situation you also have foreigners interfering and dividing us further. This takes time and the tactics that have worked for the West after having a "total war" and "war of annihilation" from Brits vs Germans they managed to subdue the Germans to think of them as "Allies" despite having millions killed and rhetoric of annihilation of the Germans. This is of course not a comparison how Russia should treat Ukraine. There needs to be a regime change, which Russia most probably will not make, but Zelensky will go just like the Ukro-fascists. With the Nazis being targeted and killed daily at some point even the must stubborn "patriot" will realize that they will die that way and has to soften towards Russia. This will give place for consideration to someone who is at least willing to compromise on the West vs East thing and maybe play low ball.

Russia needs to effectively cut off the influence from the West and provide safety and prosperity to the occupied regions with constant dialog to Ukrainians reassuring and controlling the situation towards calming them down and providing a vision of a future with peace and better lifes, while at the same time openly and publicly putting any banderite they find infront of a war tribunal and punishing them with death penalty. The youth is the next generation of Ukrainians and they need to be educated and influenced by not Nazi rhetoric like the Banderite scum did, but by our slavic values of importance of family, culture, history, peace and the path of our near future.

flamming_python wrote:
The key problem is that the Ukraine identifies itself as a state exclusively of the Ukrainians. When in fact this isn't so. The Ukraine has always been a multi-ethnic territory much like Russia itself. Ukrainians, Russians, Bulgarians, Jews, Moldovans, Hungarians, Germans, Nogais all lived there or came there to settle. There were always multiple languages spoken in the Ukraine. Even the Ukrainian language itself, is not uniform - it varies from region to region, while it's literary form derives from Taras Shevchenko's literature, itself based on the Ukrainian spoken around the Kiev region in the late 19th century.

Yes, they identify themselfs as different from us, that does not mean that is indeed a fact, but the result of divide and conquer tactics by Lenin and other Enemies of our people.

flamming_python wrote:
Now I think that basically any state has a right to define itself as it wishes, and choose its own alliances. However the amount of nationalism that has been revved up in the Ukraine over the past 23 years prior to the Maidan revolution was already bad enough, and the Maidan revolution simply caused the pot to burst. At that state the coupist Ukrainian govt. was at war with its own people in the Donbass - who are a mix of Russians and Ukrainians but with more of a Russian identity. While the Crimea, never historically a part of the Ukraine - simply decided to seperate outright.

I have to highly disagree with that statement. Once freedom end where another's freedom or security is in danger! The US would not allow Russia or China to start a coup de etat in Mexico, arming Mexico and establishing a puppet state that welcomes Russian forces on its soil to protect them against US aggression. This talk about everyone has the right to do whatever he wants is a fairy tale and can not be allowed in the real world due to risk for Nuclear Annihilation of any major country. The West loves this talk and rhetoric and to many times I was forced to listen to this from Germans while completely ignoring the argument and analogy I just made with reversed roles. We are adults and do understand that this is not going to work in the Real World and we have many examples where countries can not just decide to be part of some military alliance without a Super Power is not threatened by it. Sovereignty, true Sovereignty is a luxury that only a few countries have to decide and follow their own interests.

flamming_python wrote:
I don't agree with invading the Ukraine, or trying to redefine its identity for it. This should all have been solved differently. Putin is trying to solve the problem he himself contributed to with war. It's his indictment.

With the imminent threat of Ukraine and a fool as its "President" who can not even think for himself or 5 Minutes into the future allowed the US to build labs for biological weapons, who acquired NATO weaponary, who constantly asks for NATO intervention and has threatened to acquire nuclear weapons against Russia, with the necessary technology, know-how and motivation to actually do it...What should Vladimir Putin do? More diplomacy? That certainly worked so well, talking to the West who declared you years ago as a "nuthead" and "every word is a lie" or the Ukrainians who have decided we are their enemy? What in your opinion should VVP have done to have a better option?

I think that was the right choice and all events of that conflict show us that it is not a slaughter fest but indeed a demilitarization and de-nazification mission. What the further plans are I don't know, but I believe it will be split in half where one side is LNR/DNR with some puffer zone forward as "demilitarized zone" and with "de-nazified" Ukraine with limited military capability and no MIC infrastructure. The time flies by and situation normalized or the West opens a second front. I do not know what will happen, but the chances of a Nazi-Ukraine doing what it wants is certainly not the outcome anyone wants.

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Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4 - Page 32 Image10

This was posted on one of TG groups, trucks are marked with V signs. Disregard wood, but lower picture of Kamaz, it has metal cover on the window. Is that field mod, it doesn't look like it was welded in the field?

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Regular Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:09 am

sundoesntrise wrote:Ukrainian tranny wanted to escape to Poland but got turned back because he's a conscript.

https://t.me/war_world/1209

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flamming_python Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:35 am

Found a source of pro-Ukraine vids

Looks like an Msta-S was captured. Probably left behind after breaking down

Destroyed Rosgvardia convoy near Kharkov. Don't know what happened here

Seems like a destroyed motor-rifles convoy

And there's another vid I won't post, has a lot of corpses

Don't know when these vids were shot, could have been any time over the past 7-8 days or so. And there are a lot of propaganda and mislabeled vids on the channel.

But yeah. Definitely considerable loses.
I suspect the Ukrainians would certainly want to publicize all the Russian loses though, and the amount of such vids you can still count in the range of 10-20.
I think killed being in the range of the high hundreds is about correct.

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flamming_python Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:37 am

Arkanghelsk wrote:The speed hasn't been bad, I dont think that's the issue at all

Considering that Russia has taken 50% of Ukraine it's good tempo

The cities can wait, they're cutoff and nothing can get in

It's just these little pockets of resistance should be destroyed , as soon as they are detected

I'd like to see more bombardment

That's just me, I dont care about Ukrainians on the whole

Actually in Russia I'd say most people who dont have connection to 404 have begun to feel loathing for them

I understand flaming and those who have ties to the country, but to be honest to hell with them, ukraine is a shithole and the people are contaminated with nazism , not all, but enough

Regardless of connection or not, it's not right to make any whole country suffer. Let them be what they want to be, not our concern.

And no 50% of the Ukraine is not taken. More like 25%.

And if these vids are accurate then there are problems in the cities Russia has taken under control too. Well at least the protestors are brave enough to protest, that means there's hardly a heavy hand being applied.

Overall considering the size of these cities, I don't think these protests are that large. Several hundred in both cases.
Any pro-Russians would be too scared to come out for fear of being killed later, and because the timeline of Russian presence in these regions is uncertain.
But I think it's still indicative.

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flamming_python wrote:Found a source of pro-Ukraine vids

But yeah. Definitely considerable loses.
I suspect the Ukrainians would certainly want to publicize all the Russian loses though, and the amount of such vids you can still count in the range of 10-20.
I think killed being in the range of the high hundreds is about correct.

If you want to see raw footage, go to telegram, not youtube. Youtube is full of fakes, cuts and so on. These videos are also quite old.
Now there are plenty of destroyed Ukrainian convoys being posted on TG channels as well. It seems that logistics echelons are taking the majority of casualties.

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Big_Gazza Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:59 am

flamming_python wrote:Found a source of pro-Ukraine vids

So fcking what? Why post them here? Do you think we care about Orc propaganda, or want to see images of the inevitable RF losses???? Suspect

If all commies are as clueless as you then the CPRF will quickly loose its relevancy in Russias domestic affairs. Its a sad day when, in wartime, Russian commies actively work against the interests of the nation out of spite because they no longer control the corridors of power, and are unable to defeat Putin in presidential elections.

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Regular wrote:

flamming_python wrote:Found a source of pro-Ukraine vids

But yeah. Definitely considerable loses.
I suspect the Ukrainians would certainly want to publicize all the Russian loses though, and the amount of such vids you can still count in the range of 10-20.
I think killed being in the range of the high hundreds is about correct.

If you want to see raw footage, go to telegram, not youtube. Youtube is full of fakes, cuts and so on. These videos are also quite old.
Now there are plenty of destroyed Ukrainian convoys being posted on TG channels as well. It seems that logistics echelons are taking the majority of casualties.

Got any channels to recommend?

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flamming_python Sun Mar 06, 2022 4:02 am

Big_Gazza wrote:

flamming_python wrote:Found a source of pro-Ukraine vids

So fcking what? Why post them here? Do you think we care about Orc propaganda, or want to see images of the inevitable RF losses????

If all commies are as clueless as you then the CPRF will quickly loose its relevancy in Russias domestic affairs. Its a sad day when Russian commies actively work against the interests of the nation out of spite because they no longer control the corridors of power, and are unable to defeat Putin in presidential elections.

We're not a propaganda forum here, and I'm not engaged in making any propaganda. It's on the internet that you can find out the truth of things.

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Dont post videos of russians dead here

It's a ban

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Rightoids cope posting here thinking its not putting them on a list. Razz

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Backman Sun Mar 06, 2022 4:37 am

We are witnessing the biggest propaganda psyop offensive in modern history. The state dept was giving out media grants for this to Youtubers and everything. Wendover Productions had a fancy video all ready to go just as the "Russian logistics failed" narrative starting taking hold in the last 24 hours. It's like all the propaganda fabrications about the su 57. Like how it was cancelled or had funding issues. Pure propaganda bs.

I won't even watch it but here it is. Even the first commenter is like "wow, you guys are fast"

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flamming_python wrote:

Regular wrote:

flamming_python wrote:Found a source of pro-Ukraine vids

But yeah. Definitely considerable loses.
I suspect the Ukrainians would certainly want to publicize all the Russian loses though, and the amount of such vids you can still count in the range of 10-20.
I think killed being in the range of the high hundreds is about correct.

If you want to see raw footage, go to telegram, not youtube. Youtube is full of fakes, cuts and so on. These videos are also quite old.
Now there are plenty of destroyed Ukrainian convoys being posted on TG channels as well. It seems that logistics echelons are taking the majority of casualties.

Got any channels to recommend?

Intel Slava is one

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