Russian special military operation in Ukraine #7
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There are two separate issues and deals here.Arkanghelsk wrote:
I think they know what's coming AFTER Ukraine
Removal of AEGIS ASHORE from Poland and Romania
Ukraine is one.
Second one is the talks that Russia is having with the US w.r.t security guarantees. Which is to revert to the 1997 borders of NATO. Hope Russia will stick to it. This discussion/talks will now come after the Ukraine mission is over or settled.
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Arrow wrote:Biden will send more arms to Ukraine, and so will the United Kingdom.
Send as many as they want. Just means more weapons for DNR/LNR at the end of it all.
Statement of the Russian Ministry of Defense on the special operation in Ukraine. The main thing:
The RF Armed Forces disabled communication, reconnaissance, relaying and switching centers in Vinnitsa with a long-range high-precision weapon strike;
The SBU, with the support of Western countries, is preparing a provocation in Ukraine using toxic substances to blame Russia;
there are no chemical munitions in the units of the RF Armed Forces involved in a special military operation;
Russian aviation and air defense shot down one Mi-24 helicopter of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and six drones during the day;
The Russian Federation, unlike the United States, has fulfilled its international obligations by completely destroying all stockpiles of chemical weapons;
operational-tactical, army and unmanned aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces destroyed 34 military facilities of Ukraine in a day;
video footage of civilians who died in Chernihiv, who were allegedly shot by Russian servicemen, is another production by the SBU;
The RF Armed Forces have captured a detailed map of the territory of Ukraine with facilities where poisonous substances are stored.
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SeigSoloyvov wrote:The idea of believing Putin when he says no occupation is laughable, they will occupy it but they won't admit to it until the war is over
Whats he going to do send in the army once Ukraine goes anti-russian again and again and again and again.
Or is he truly dumb enough to think he can invade the country, leave and that will work out fine for him.
But it would be peacekeeping operation after the liberation.
Anyway, all this depends not only what Russia wants. "Ukraine" of course has little or no say, but USA is behind them running the show. And today it definitely looks like USA is far from deescalating. They are increasing the military aid.
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Dima wrote:There are two separate issues and deals here.Arkanghelsk wrote:
I think they know what's coming AFTER Ukraine
Removal of AEGIS ASHORE from Poland and Romania
Ukraine is one.
Second one is the talks that Russia is having with the US w.r.t security guarantees. Which is to revert to the 1997 borders of NATO. Hope Russia will stick to it. This discussion/talks will now come after the Ukraine mission is over or settled.
No there not. Influential U.S. senator from Texas, Ted Cruz, in a interview he conducted back in 2014 he called for Ukraine to join HATO and have Aegis Ashore placed within it's territory.
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https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/03/16/parte-de-guerra-16-03-2022/
Nothing much, we are in a phase of liquidating the cauldron of Mariupol and step by step breaking of defensive lines and pushing the enemy back village by village.
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VARGR198 wrote:
You can't like a video like this, because then it would turn out that I like what is on the video - killing innocent people. I would ask others not to like the pictures or videos of the killed civilians. Death to Nazis and those who ordered the war; bastards from Wall Street, as well as the U.S. military-industrial complex
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I repeat it expanding it little more. Two stuffs.magnumcromagnon wrote:No there not. Influential U.S. senator from Texas, Ted Cruz, in a interview he conducted back in 2014 he called for Ukraine to join HATO and have Aegis Ashore placed within it's territory.
1) Current Special operations in Ukraine will prevent NATO entry and in effect any NATO offensive systems in Ukraine.
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2) Russian talks with US on security gaurantee, which was going on prior to the current mil campaign in Ukraine.
Regardless of the outcome of the the 1st, the 2nd remains a different deal, in which Russia is demanding NATO to revert to its 1997 borders. Which also means whatever has been installed in Poland will have to be removed or dismantled.
Russia made it clear that, failing to get a security gaurantee will force Russia to take counter measures - maybe increased overseas deployment.
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Regular wrote:flamming_python wrote:Lurk83 wrote:Reinforcement Troops from South Ossetia coming through the Roki tunnel. Seems like they’re scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Maybe they just want to rotate units and give these ones in Ossetia some combat experience
I don't think Russia is in any shortage of armour at the Ukrainian front. But the combat is so intense that units simply have to be rotated with as many fresh reserves as possible
Those with combat experience in Osetia are already on pension. 080808 wasn't yesterday, even if it feels so.
Perhaps not all of them.
Georgian Losses Reports from the 2008 War:
http://asaland.proboards.com/thread/264/georgian-losses-reports
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#MARIUPOL—Sources in #DNR People's Militia believe that the #Ukraine|ian neo-#Nazi #Azov regiment—after changing HQs—detonated the building, which the photographs corroborate. It is also possible that Azov was attempting to hide the evidence before abandoning their former HQ. 3/3
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Update: Three days ago, allegations emerged online that Azov Batallion would stage a false flag operation by blowing up this theater.
I am NOT saying that's what happened. It could be a Russian air strike.
But the timing of the rumor and subsequent explosion is very strange.
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Another anonymous source talking about this, quoted in a Telegram channel with Donbass news on March 12th, four days ago. Link: https://t.me/novostldnr/2145
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Confirmed: The US is sending 100 Switchblade armed drones to Ukraine. The loitering munition has been used by US special operations forces for several years, and is good at penetrating armor
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The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation announced a strike on military facilities in Vinnitsa
KonashenkovMoscow. March 16th. INTERFAX-AVN - The Russian Ministry of Defense announced a strike with precision-guided weapons on Ukrainian military facilities in Vinnitsa.
"On the morning of March 16, high-precision long-range weapons struck at the military infrastructure of Ukraine. As a result, communications, intelligence, relaying and switching centers in the village of Vinnitsa were disabled," said Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov.
On March 9, Konashenkov said that the command post of the Ukrainian Air Force is located in Vinnitsa, which receives data on the air situation from NATO radar detection aircraft from Poland.
"The leadership of the Ukrainian armed forces is trying to make up for the lack of information about the air situation by obtaining data at the air force command post in Vinnitsa from E-3A aircraft of the AWACS-NATO system. These aircraft are on round-the-clock duty in Polish airspace," he said on March 9 Konashenkov.
https://www.militarynews.ru/?lang=RU
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1) NATO Peacekeeping Mission in Ukraine Could Trigger World War 3 - German Lawmaker
2) US Treasury Confirms Russia Not Barred From Servicing Bonds, Bloomberg Reports
3) Russian Defence Ministry Rejects Kiev's Claim Alleging Russian Forces Attacked Theatre in Mariupol, Says Azov Battalion Blew Up Building
4) ECHR Suspends Consideration of All Complaints Against Russia
The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) said on Wednesday that it is suspending the examination of all applications against Russia.
"Following the Resolution of the Committee of Ministers that the Russian Federation ceases to be a member of the Council of Europe as from 16 March 2022 (Resolution (CM/Res(2022)2), the Court has decided to suspend the examination of all applications against the Russian Federation pending its consideration of the legal consequences of this Resolution for the work of the Court," the ECHR said in a statement.
5) Kiev, Moscow Starting to Reach Some Kind of Compromise, Ukrainian Official Says
Positions of Kiev and Moscow were different but now the sides are starting to reach some kind of compromise at the negotiations, Volodymyr Zelensky's top aide Mykhailo Podolyak said on Wednesday.
"The positions of the parties were very different and we have only now begun to reach some kind of compromise," Podolyak told the Ukraina 24 broadcaster.
Podolyak said that Kiev and Moscow will reach a peace agreement sooner or later.
6) Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Says There Will Be Consequences to EU Decision to Provide Kiev With Lethal Weapons
The European Union’s decision to provide Ukraine with lethal weapons will have consequences, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Alexander Grushko told EU diplomats on Wednesday.
7) Russian Prosecutors to Look Into Ukrainian Journalist's Calls to Kill Russian Children
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8 ) New Mercenaries in Ukraine to Be Dealt With Same Way as Those Near Lvov, Russian Diplomat Says
9) NATO Members Agree That Alliance's Forces Should Not Be Present in Ukraine's Territory or Airspace, Stoltenberg Says
10) US Congressman Says Ukraine Now Has S-300 Air Defence Systems in Country, CNN Reports
11) US Weighing Supply of Cutting-Edge Guided Missiles to Ukraine - Reports
The Biden administration is mulling supplying Ukraine with cutting-edge US-made guided missiles which could target Russian tanks and artillery positions from miles away, NBC News reported, citing two congressional officials.
In particular, the US is considering whether to provide Ukraine with explosives-laden "loitering missiles," which are called Switchblades. The issue will be discussed by President Joe Biden on Wednesday.
According to the officials, there are two types of the Switchblade - 300 and 600 - which can be sent to Ukraine. The weaponry is developed by AeroVironment, which is based in the suburbs of Washington, D.C.
12) Russian Military Has Evidence Ukraine Preparing Provocation Involving Poisonous Substances, MoD Says.
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Russian Military Has Evidence Ukraine Preparing Provocation Involving Poisonous Substances, MoD Says
On Monday, Russian ambassador to the United Nations Vassily Nebenzia cited a Russian military intelligence report that Ukrainian nationalist fighters transported 80 tonnes of ammonia to the settlement of Zolochev, Kharkov region. The envoy suggested these nationalist forces were preparing a provocation to accuse Russia of using chemical weapons.
The Russian Defence Ministry says it has information that Ukraine's security service is planning a provocation involving the use of poisonous substances, and that Kiev has received support in these efforts from members of the UN Security Council.
"We have it on good authority that, with the support of Western countries, the Security Service of Ukraine is preparing a provocation using poisonous substances against civilians. The purpose of this action is to accuse Russia of using chemical weapons against the people of Ukraine," MoD spokesman Igor Konashenkov said in a briefing Wednesday.
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Not only Polish air space, but they also fly them over Lithuania, probably other countries, and also over the Black Sea.
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We have to ask 'why was this not done 2 weeks ago?'GunshipDemocracy wrote:The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation announced a strike on military facilities in Vinnitsa
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JohninMK wrote:We have to ask 'why was this not done 2 weeks ago?'GunshipDemocracy wrote:The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation announced a strike on military facilities in Vinnitsa
Not necessary. All communication lines to the east and south-east are destroyed or jammed. This is the main battle area. Soon the fight will turn to the south-west (Odessa) and more western parts of the country, including more strikes against Lviv area. Now it became necessary to destroy the facility.
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Briefing by the Russian Defense Ministry on the situation in Mariupol
The RF Armed Forces evacuated more than 31,000 citizens from Mariupol in a day. Rescued residents talk about mass atrocities and crimes of Ukrainian nationalists;
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At this point, either Russia is waiting for them to be set up, or they will be sending target drones to pick up location of the AD systems.
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One of the founders of the Nazi battalion Azov *, Nikolai Kravchenko, died in Mariupol.
Kravchenko, with the call sign "Kruk" ("Raven"), was one of the main ideologues of Azov. The regiment commander, Andrej Bilecki, confirmed his death.
"Yesterday, my close friend, legendary nationalist, comrade-in-arms, historian-scientist Nikolai Kravchenko" Kruk "died in battle. "Two weeks before his death, his father was killed in the battle for Kharkov," Bilecki wrote
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The United States will keep secret negotiations on the supply of air defense systems to Kiev, will not disclose the location of such weapons
Psaki
Intel Slava Z, [3/16/2022 1:46 PM]
The US does not want to establish a no-fly zone over Ukraine, this is the way to the third world war - Psaki
Intel Slava Z, [3/16/2022 1:47 PM]
US believes that providing Ukraine with MiG-29 will lead to escalation - Psaki
As I said.
So they will rely on smuggling weapons over the boarder. Just to let this battle drag on. Russians need to get the civvies out and then really go to town.
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