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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #8

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Sun Mar 27, 2022 10:03 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:I do hope the current 'focus on the Donbass' is a ruse

    This Ukrainian 'counter-offensive' has been hyped up by Western media for a week now

    Russia may just be playing along until the negotiations, or just before them.

    At which point the trap will be sprung. Redeployment of the Kherson grouping back again to storm Nikolaev immediately in co-ordination with a VDV landing at the airbase there, marine landing in Odessa region, the cratering of the Azovites at the Azov steel works, the rush of the new group in Belgorod forward to Kharkov and the storming of Kharkov without having encircled it first, the closing of the pincer around Kiev

    That would make sense and give the NATO planners a real headache, because at the moment they think they have Russia figured out.

    This would require the Russians to deploy much more troops and those troop moves would be noticed

    I highly doubt the russians are going for such play, Look at how long Mari is taking.

    Kharkov is much bigger and the Ukies are WELLLL dug in there with huge amount of forces

    But no-one expects Russia to seize the city with a blind zerg rush and no encirclement clown

    Well I dunno. Anything can happen.

    I just don't agree with that logic.

    Honestly I doubt Russia can win with the limited forces it has there, while being forced to play nice and be given essentially B tier stuff.

    Putin needs to go full-on war mode but he is unwilling to and that's the problem.

    No army no matter how well trained cannot win if you set them up for failure, its not that russia can't win they for sure can its just the situation that's being imposed on them by Putin is unreasonable for their position.
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    Post  diabetus Sun Mar 27, 2022 10:14 pm

    Russia should probably invest in giving Kornet and other ATGMs remote operation capabilities like shershen and Stugna-p.

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    Post  Giulio Sun Mar 27, 2022 10:18 pm

    Hello. I didn't read the whole thread, but why didn't Russia focus on the West Ukraine? From Belarus to Moldova. Where do supplies come from? Aren't they from the west?
    And the airspace control? Did Russia get it yes or no? How is it possible that supplies can still enter Ukraine and join the Ukrainian forces? How long will this "special operation" last?


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    Post  flamming_python Sun Mar 27, 2022 10:19 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:I do hope the current 'focus on the Donbass' is a ruse

    This Ukrainian 'counter-offensive' has been hyped up by Western media for a week now

    Russia may just be playing along until the negotiations, or just before them.

    At which point the trap will be sprung. Redeployment of the Kherson grouping back again to storm Nikolaev immediately in co-ordination with a VDV landing at the airbase there, marine landing in Odessa region, the cratering of the Azovites at the Azov steel works, the rush of the new group in Belgorod forward to Kharkov and the storming of Kharkov without having encircled it first, the closing of the pincer around Kiev

    That would make sense and give the NATO planners a real headache, because at the moment they think they have Russia figured out.

    This would require the Russians to deploy much more troops and those troop moves would be noticed

    I highly doubt the russians are going for such play, Look at how long Mari is taking.

    Kharkov is much bigger and the Ukies are WELLLL dug in there with huge amount of forces

    But no-one expects Russia to seize the city with a blind zerg rush and no encirclement clown

    Well I dunno. Anything can happen.

    I just don't agree with that logic.

    Honestly I doubt Russia can win with the limited forces it has there, while being forced to play nice and be given essentially B tier stuff.

    Putin needs to go full-on war mode but he is unwilling to and that's the problem.

    No army no matter how well trained cannot win if you set them up for failure, its not that russia can't win they for sure can its just the situation that's being imposed on them by Putin is unreasonable for their position.

    That's Strelkov's view as well, and from the first week, that the war can't be won without a series of partial mobilizations

    Russia is offering short-term contracts, 6 months or so of service. It wants to get another 200,000 men at arms this way for the operation. Been playing around with the idea of signing up myself, if it helps me get rid of my mortgage as I have heard  tongue
    But then it's a bullshit war isn't it..

    I don't think the quantity in theater is a problem. But they need to be rotated out, given rest, and so on. Hence the need for a large pool of reserves.
    The Ukrainian side doesn't have that luxury, their troops are running low on supplies, ammo, fuel, and have no time for rotation or rest. I think the point is just to make them give up.

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    Post  Werewolf Sun Mar 27, 2022 10:47 pm

    flamming_python wrote:Russian MoD published a vid of a Su-25 taking out an ammo depot

    https://t.me/sheyhtamir/13510

    I presume it's a Su-25SM

    Looks like cannon or unguided rocket fire?

    Looks like Su-25 firing gunpods UPK-23-250 or maybe GUV-8700 (the last number is the ammunition capacity for both guns)

    From the video you can see that he starts shooting at roughly 2.9-3.0 km distance at 720-730 km/h while flying 235m above ground. The 3km distance to target indicates it is a rather larger projectile than 12,7mm.
    On this image you can see that there are many rounds in a very short burst while the pilot said something about "...Protivo Raketnyx...". Probably mentioned his target, which would make me wonder why use 23mm rounds against SHORAD/SAM.

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    UPK-23-250 uses a quite powerful 23x115mm round.

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    Then he switched his armament and was shooting again with exact the same sound but from different hardpoints.
    My guess is 4x UPK-23-250 gun pods.
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    The other option (but less likely) would be the GUV-8700 which is a little monster itself and will shred any aircraft in two.

    Each gunpod has 2x 7,62x54mmR rounds, each with 3500-6000 rounds per minute.
    Each gun pod additionally has one Yak-B 12,7x108mm gatling gun with 4000-5000 rounds per minute.
    YaK gattling gun uses duplex rounds which seperate midair and from one bullet there are two projectiles flying the same trajectory.

    1217mm 1СЛТ патрон
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    The rounds have a steel core and some incendiary component that was more than enough to deal with infantry or unarmored targets.

    They are very suitable to be used against aircrafts or unarmored vehicles.
    Pressing for one second the enemy will be facing a wall of bullets.

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    Post  Isos Sun Mar 27, 2022 10:56 pm

    Giulio wrote:Hello. I didn't read the whole thread, but why didn't Russia focus on the West Ukraine? From Belarus to Moldova. Where do supplies come from? Aren't they from the west?
    And the airspace control? Did Russia get it yes or no? How is it possible that supplies can still enter Ukraine and join the Ukrainian forces? How long will this "special operation" last?

    Ukraine is as big as France. Controling the rear of such country is pretty hard. You would need hundred of thousands of soldiers and a big logistic. They would also be facing enemy from all sides.

    Weapon delivries doesn't change the balance of power. Ukrainian troops are mostly around Kiev and in the donbas. Once they win there ukrainians will have nothing to protect the west. And both of those areas are encircled so weapons will have hard time reaching them and they won't be able to flee from there and reposition themselves in the west.
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    Post  Scorpius Sun Mar 27, 2022 11:00 pm

    A little sober assessment:
    About the meaning of starting hostilities now.
    Based on the captured documents, the Ukrainian army was going to launch a full-scale offensive no later than mid-March. This offensive was to be carried out in two directions: an attack simultaneously on the Crimea and on the Donbass. We don'T know what forces would be involved. It is possible that the attack would have been unofficially supported by NATO forces in the region.Thus, a preemptive strike two weeks before the moment "X" caught the enemy army with their pants down.
    But everything has its price, and this is accompanied by insufficient preparation by the Russian army for an attack. Some of the equipment, as we see, did not have time to equip with all the necessary protective systems, for example. This also explains why the Russian army in the early days of the war focused on rapid reconnaissance raids in small groups and covering the largest cities: this is designed to panic the enemy's ranks and divide the main forces available to him into several relatively large parts, while blocking their ability to come to each other's aid.

    At the moment, it is quite obvious that there are quite a lot of people in the controlled territories who need to be provided with the help necessary for life. An increase in the area of controlled territories will lead to an increase in the number of people who need help. At the same time, you cannot leave an enemy group in your rear, which may try to seize territories if the front line moves away from them to the West. So in the near future we will observe the gradual dismemberment of combat-ready enemy groups and their systematic elimination. After the destruction of the military force, the Russian Guard, militia forces, the Ministry of Emergency Situations and other structures that ensure the maintenance of order and security will enter the cleared region. Army units will rotate and advance to the next resistance node. Repeat until the necessary number of territories of the former Ukraine is under the control of Russia.

    The most affected in the current scenario will be ordinary citizens of Ukraine, who will be forced to survive in a humanitarian catastrophe. Those who can leave Ukraine now must do so. I don't care in which direction. If you are not allowed to go towards Russia, run to Poland, or other neighboring countries, and then make your way to the territory of Russia, if possible. If you are unable to leave the place where you live, you need to prepare for long-term hardships. If you live in a private house, and you still do not have a cellar or basement - it's time to create a shelter, stock up on food and survival tools. Perhaps you should recall the experience of the partisan detachments of the Great Patriotic War, when whole villages went deep into the forest and organized temporary dwellings there. Although to be honest, I'm not sure about the effectiveness of such tactics in the modern world. But we must remember that the greatest danger to the civilian population of Ukraine is now represented by Ukrainian armed formations, not the Russian army.

    No one knows what Russia's original plan for this special operation was. So all the statements about some "deviations from the original plans" are the usual speculations of amateurs in conditions of critical lack of information. Everything we know at the moment is described in sufficient detail in the official briefings of the Russian Ministry of Defense. The operation is going the way it is going - and any analysis of mistakes, successes, inconsistencies with the initial idea or loss levels, or tactics adjustments - we will be able to discuss all these things only AFTER the end of hostilities, based on reliable information and analytics from real military experts.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Sun Mar 27, 2022 11:05 pm

    In a new link on combat operations in Ukraine, Mikhail said that the Russian army was preparing for a conflict with a larger adversary, far larger than Ukraine (thinking of NATO), and added that the Russian army has more than 10,000 Iskander and Kalibr missiles. etc. Of course, the man does not state where this information came from, but that information is by no means impossible.
    MY PERSONAL OPINION, just that and nothing else; Honestly, I also think that the Russian army certainly has several thousand missiles, some cruise missiles like 3M14 Kalibr, some hypersonic like 9M723 Iskanders. Also, I am convinced that Russia has a huge amount of 9M729 missiles, cruise missiles, which are used by the Iskander-K system. I am convinced that the Russians already have several hundred H47M2 Kinzhal. And the 3M22 Zircon has certainly been produced in a few dozen copies.

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    Post  kvs Sun Mar 27, 2022 11:11 pm

    Yuri Podolaka is raising the alarm about a developing humanitarian catastrophe including in the regime held territories. It must be a
    priority for the operation to win on this front and not just the military one.

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    Post  Ispan Sun Mar 27, 2022 11:17 pm


    Today's briefing, mostly about Ukrainian war crimes, please repost and share

    https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/03/27/parte-de-guerra-27-03-2022-crimenes-de-guerra-ucranianos/

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Mar 28, 2022 12:39 am

    Ispan wrote:
    Today's briefing, mostly about Ukrainian war crimes, please repost and share

    https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/03/27/parte-de-guerra-27-03-2022-crimenes-de-guerra-ucranianos/

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    War part 03/27/2022 - Ukrainian war crimes
    27 March, 2022 Zhukov

    YESTERDAY 26 March

    Summary of Strelkov

    During the day, there were no significant changes on the front.

    Fighting continued in the Izyum area and south of the city, indicating a threat to the northern communications of the Donetsk enemy group. The enemy's positions in the Slavyansk and Barvenkovo areas were shelled by artillery and air strikes, which means that the Slavyansk-Barvenkovo highway is about to be cut off However, Russian troops have not yet reached the highway. (I remind you that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have two more lines of communication connecting the group with the Dnieper (Ekaterinoslav) and Zaporozhe).

    There was also fighting in the Avdeyevka and Marinka areas, but - according to local reports - there were no fierce frontal attacks today.

    In Mariupol, the slow gnawing of enemy defenses continued. No progress was reported in the direction of Kurakhovo.

    For other regions:
    On the right bank of the Dnieper River, Russian troops finally established formal control over the city of Slavutich, which had previously been left unoccupied in the rear while advancing to the outskirts of Kiev.

    In the Sumy region, Russian troops took full control of the city of Trostianets (also "left aside" during the march to Kiev from the east).
    Apparently, the main focus now is not on further breakthrough, but on securing the formally occupied territory, which for a month actually remained "no man's land" or under the control of civilian authorities subordinate to Kiev.

    Either I do not have any information about other regions, or I do not consider it possible to express it publicly. In general, the situation has not changed. The Russian Armed Forces have so far exhausted their offensive capabilities, and the Ukrainian Armed Forces do not have the strength to continue counterattacks, which did not bring significant results in the previous days (except for mutual sensitive losses).

    Ukrainians kill their own who surrender - Boris Rozhin

    Yesterday, during the storming of a Ukrainian fortress in the Gorlovka sector, some Ukrainian soldiers tried to surrender, but their fellow servicemen shot them in the back. This morning, it became possible to force Ukrainian militants out of those positions, and video footage shows the corpses of Ukrainian soldiers who tried to surrender. Not only were they shot in the back by their own comrades-in-arms, but their bodies were also abandoned.

    t.me/boris_rozhin/37005

    TODAY 27 March

    Official statement of the Russian army

    the main thing:

    high-precision long-range air-launched weapons destroyed a large fuel base near the city of Lviv.

    high-precision cruise missiles destroyed the workshops of the Lviv Radio Repair Plant in the city of Lviv.

    A missile warehouse with S-300 and Buk anti-aircraft missile systems in the village of Plesetskaya was destroyed by sea-based long-range high-precision weapons.

    during the day, operational and army tactical aircraft attacked 67 military installations in Ukraine.

    Russian air defense systems destroyed 18 Ukrainian drones overnight.

    Since the beginning of the special military operation, 289 drones, 1,656 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 169 multiple rocket launchers, 684 field artillery guns and mortars, as well as 1,503 units of military equipment have been destroyed.

    Change of tactics at the front.

    For the second time since the beginning of the military campaign, we are witnessing a change in the tactics of the Russian Federation at the front. The first 48 hours are a blitzkrieg. Then the pressure at all points of the front. Now we can talk about concentration in key areas.

    The plan of the General Staff is clear.

    West of Kiev – a non-priority area. Russian troops have moved to convenient positions, are digging trenches, preparing for defense. This section is used to indicate the geographical claims of the Russian Federation.

    East of Kiev. Concentration on the supply lines in the Chernihiv direction. That is why today the troops entered Slavutich. The next few days will clean up small settlements and form a safe supply corridor for the Kiev (eastern) group. Negotiations are likely to be heldabout the surrender of the city in order to avoid the Mariupol scenario.

    Sumy is a low priority destination. The troops are withdrawing. The supply line of the Kiev group is much longer here. There's no point in keeping it.

    Kharkiv. Concentration of troops to prevent the enemy from coming to the aid of Izyum. An attempt to completely block the city is likely.

    Izyum. Priority area number one. The main task is a deep breakthrough to encircle the Donbass group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

    The Donbass front. Low priority destination. Constant fire contact with the enemy, to deter from retreat.

    Zaporozhye-Gulyai-Pole. Priority area number 2. Offensive to join the Izyum group.

    Nikolaev and Krivoy Rog are low-priority destinations. Russian troops are withdrawing.

    In fact, next week we will see an inverted Citadel Operation, which the Germans wanted to carry out near Kursk in 1943, encircling the entire front. In terms of importance, the moderna operation will be no less significant than the Battle of Kursk. The best parts of the Ukrainian Armed Forces may end up in the cauldron, after which Zelensky's negotiating positions will sink significantly.

    Apparently, it is towards this sector of the front that the Bayraktars, brought to Poland today from Turkey, rush.

    Summary of the Day - Boris Rozhin

    1. Mariupol.
    According to local reports, the enemy defenses on the left bank are in a state of disintegration into separate foci of resistance. There are also battles that are already very close to Azovstal.

    2. Ugledar-Maryinka.
    At Marinka, the troops had already reached the rubble pile (cone of earth) that is the dominant height this morning and were fighting with the retreating enemy. South of Marinka, heavy fighting continued for Novomikhailovka.

    3. Avdeyevka-Dzerzhinsk.
    Fighting continued in the Novobakhmutovka area. The enemy's front after the defeat in the battles for Verkhnetoretskoye gave way, but it has not been broken. In Avdiivka - unchanged.

    4. Lisichansk-Severodonetsk-Popasnaya.
    Fighting continued in the south of Rubizhne and in Popasna itself.

    5. Izyum-Barvenkovo-Slavyansk.
    The Russian Armed Forces, having crushed the Ukrainian barrier at Kamenka, are accumulating forces on the southern bank of the Donets River for future actions in the direction of Slavyansk or Barvenkovo. There is some progress on the Izyum—Slavyansk highway. In Barvenkovo, the Ukrainian Armed Forces reported on the "capture of Gusarovka", although no one had taken it before: the Russian Armed Forces did not declare that they had taken Gusarovka, the fighting was continuing north of it, east of Barvenkovo.

    6. Kharkiv.
    No significant changes. The sides exchange artillery strikes, and attacks on Ukrainian troops in the Chuguev area continue.

    7. Chernigov-Sumy.
    Chernihiv without significant changes. Also the trainings. The Russian Armed Forces took control of Slavutich, where they hoisted the Russian flag today and began rotating personnel at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. The enemy, in turn, continued to put pressure on Trostianets, claiming that they were fighting in the city or controlled the city north of Akhtyrka.

    8. Kiev. Near Kiev, the situation has not changed dramatically. The troops blocking Kiev from the west are trying to move to the south, the enemy is counterattacking and blocking the advance in every possible way. East of Kiev, fighting continued in several villages northeast and east of the city. Of course, there is no encirclement of Russian troops near Kiev.

    9. Nikolaev-Odessa.
    The situation has not fundamentally changed. Fighting positions continued on the border of the Kherson and Mykolaiv regions.

    10. Zaporozhye.
    If the situation was stable for the Ukrainian Armed Forces on the Kamenskoye-Orekhov-Gulai-Polo line, the situation was more interesting east of Gulai-Polo. The Ukrainians said they had recaptured Poltavka and Malinovka, which the Russians never took. In addition, Poltavka is usually located northeast of Gulyai-pole, that is, the Ukrainians hint that the Russians are trying to envelop the AFU group defending Gulyai-pole. The enemy also confirms that ours control a number of villages east of Gulai-Pole. The Russian military did not comment on this issue.

    Appeal of Italian journalist Giorgio Bianchi to the president of Italy

    The journalist who has visited Mariupol appeals to the authorities

    The transcript (in Russian) is located here

    https://telegra.ph/Obrashchenie-italyanskogo-zhurnalista-Dzhordzhio-Byanki-k-prezidentu-Italii-03-26

    Fragment:

    (the inhabitants of Mariupol) All tell me that they were locked in the basement... Many say that they were shot... they emptied their apartments when they stayed in their apartments to shoot. They are neo-Nazi battalions."

    ️ "I went to their old bases, where I saw swastikas, books about the SS, books about Mussolini..."

    "These are real Nazis who hold the state hostage. A state that ceased to be democratic in 2014 as a result of a neo-Nazi coup Since then, the country has been in the hands of neo-Nazis and oligarchs. "They go around the world to an actor, artist and comedian of television shows, whose words are empty"

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    #UK Defence Secretary Ben Wallace said the #Starstreak short-range MANPADS that travels at Mach 4 to take down low-flying enemy jets is ready to be used imminently and Ukrainian troops had been trained and were now deployed with Starstreak.


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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:00 am

    Lutsk western Ukraine. Fuel base demilitarized
    https://t.me/Anna_News_MSK/4535?single



    long time ago...Zhirinovsky "birthday cake speech"
    https://t.me/Anna_News_MSK/4419





    flamming_python wrote:Zelensky gave an interview on Russian mass-media
    While Arestovich, the Kiev regime functionary, is talking about how Russian troops are being beaten back to everywhere outside the Donbass


    exactly her is talking



    Basically all the appearances are, are that Russia is serious about a deal

    well not really imho. Talks are only to show publicly that Russia wants war to end. BTW that's true but with current regime is not possible,


    FP wrote:
    I'm still going to go for the sudden Russian counter-offensive on all fronts theory

    A pro-Russian administration has just been set up at Energodar. Ones are working in Melitopol, Kherson, Berdyansk and a bunch of small towns.

    While Zelensky is talking about Russia retreating to the borders before 24th February, with neutrality, non-nuclear status, and a discussion on the Donbass issue being promised, as well as rebuilding of the damage done in the Ukraine.
    He'll be disappointed I think. But for the moment, they're letting his hopes bloom.

    1) not sur eif this will be a huge counteroffensive soon. Surely bombraids/ missile bombardments will crumble Orcs infrastructure and capbilites. No ammo depots, no fuel how long you can fight ?


    2) I don't think he has hopes either. Dont forget he is an actor. This role is to play a tough guy on blue screen. He risks absolutely NOTHING while Ukraine losses the war. Just earning his retirement as "president on exile".  Nothin personal just money.


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    Post  JohninMK Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:01 am

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    Uman‘ Oil depot hit too


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    Levi
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    Another hit on oil depot in Volyn Oblast

    GattoLugano 🇸🇾
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    Basements of Mariupol are Azov's pits of hell, what they did is much beyond the killing of POWs, it purely satanic


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    The largest of these nests of resistance is near the Azovstal plant, where most of the remnants of the Ukrainian forces are concentrated. Regular troops are reported to be fleeing dressed as civilians, Azov continues to fight.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:22 am

    JohninMK wrote:IWN
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    #Russia #Ukraine #UkraineRussia
    #UK Defence Secretary Ben Wallace said the #Starstreak short-range MANPADS that travels at Mach 4 to take down low-flying enemy jets is ready to be used imminently and Ukrainian troops had been trained and were now deployed with Starstreak.


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    Russian military technologists are expectantly waiting for new toys to experiment with Razz

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    Post  Scorpius Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:45 am

    JohninMK wrote:IWN
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    #Russia #Ukraine #UkraineRussia
    #UK Defence Secretary Ben Wallace said the #Starstreak short-range MANPADS that travels at Mach 4 to take down low-flying enemy jets is ready to be used imminently and Ukrainian troops had been trained and were now deployed with Starstreak.


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    I am not sure about the practical effectiveness of these complexes. The mass of the warhead is 3*0.9 kilograms, the warhead is three tungsten darts. Basically, it looks like they make a through hole in an airplane or helicopter without touching vital components and assemblies. For comparison, the mass of the warhead in the Verba MANPADS is 1.75 kilograms, almost twice as much as each of the Starstreak subelements.

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:00 am

    Podlodka77 wrote:In a new link on combat operations in Ukraine, Mikhail said that the Russian army was preparing for a conflict with a larger adversary, far larger than Ukraine (thinking of NATO), and added that the Russian army has more than 10,000 Iskander and Kalibr missiles. etc. Of course, the man does not state where this information came from, but that information is by no means impossible.
    MY PERSONAL OPINION, just that and nothing else; Honestly, I also think that the Russian army certainly has several thousand missiles, some cruise missiles like 3M14 Kalibr, some hypersonic like 9M723 Iskanders. Also, I am convinced that Russia has a huge amount of 9M729 missiles, cruise missiles, which are used by the Iskander-K system. I am convinced that the Russians already have several hundred H47M2 Kinzhal. And the 3M22 Zircon has certainly been produced in a few dozen copies.

    There are many Kh-101 perhaps some approaching their expiration date, Not sure how many kh-55/Kh-555 are on stocks too.
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    Post  flamming_python Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:01 am

    I did note that Britain rejected the Ukraine's requests for tanks

    Probably because it would be bad PR to see them wrecked

    I will note that the Ukraine had over 2000 tanks before the war started. Goes to show what happened to most of them.

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    Post  Broski Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:32 am

    par far wrote:
    That video was very hard to stomach, but we here already know the Neonazis infesting the Ukraine are absolutely evil.

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:50 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:

    How disgusting do these people look. They should study the facial features and their pathologies. Biden, Clinton, Zielinsky...
    Lombroso was right in many of his theories about criminals.

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