Russian special military operation in Ukraine #11

Arkanghelsk wrote:

SHIT it's a big column !

Coming to donbass !

Keep dropping the bombs and let's ram this shit up their rear !

That's the spirit !
Don't let me see you whine anymore!
Russia will overrun Banderistan like a shallow stream!

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Some Terminator heavy IFVs have been spotted on traincarts heading towards Ukraine.

BMPT Terminator is specifically designed for urban warfare. Don't know if 2 or -3 (the former is more numerous and very potent, latter is in very limited service but has a vastly superior survivability vs all kinds of RPGs, ATGMs etc thanks to Afganit APS).

Anyway, since Mariupol is a done deal, it has to be Kharkov these are meant for.

Russia only operates 1 type of BMPT and it has no APS installed. The Russian version combines the chassis and turret layout of the original BMPT export version sold to Kazakhstan, with some of the turret elements of the later BMPT-72 export version. Chassis ERA protection was also updated. When looking at the details there are a number of things that set Russian BMPT's apart from other variants, but certainly not the integration of an APS. What you refer to as the BMPT-3 is just the unfinished T-15 Armata chassis with a mockup of a remote weapon station on top. So far it does not exist in Russian service, unless they have been working on it in secret, which i doubt.

The BMPT has the ability to keep up with MBT's while providing a large volume of suppressing fire. The dual grenade launchers can be used for indirect fire, while the dual 30mm cannons are simply just that. More importanly, the BMPT's have an independent panoramic sight for the commander which is a feature sorely missing on most Russian MBT's, including the most prolific T-72B3. It is obviously better protected than any other IFV availble, so im thinking it will be operating alongside MBT's to break through "the trenches" somewhere on the front.

No sense in using them in urban areas without propper support of actual infantry. They will just get destroyed like any other armor, and they dont have many available to start with.

Having said all that, it is weird they are bringing those in IMHO. They dont have them in great numbers and have already tested the platform in combat conditions. So leadership must really think the Terminators can be valuable in the upcomming offensive. Another, somewhat disturbing possibility, is that they need fresh equipment due to attrition setting in, But in this case it would make more sense to just bring in more T-72's from the garbage heap, so that is unlikely IMHO.

An audio recording has surfaced, allegedly recorded on March 30th, of a conversation between presumably a Russian intelligence officer and a Ukrainian politician living in Bucha, a former Rada deputy and presidential candidate in the Ukraine - Alexander Rzhavskiy.
March 30th was the day Russian forces left Bucha

Which is interesting because the Ukrainian authorities had later declared him killed by the Russian occupiers on March 27th

https://t.me/boris_rozhin/41616

Anyway, it basically consists of the officer trying to convince the politician to come with them, as command fears for his life. Specifically the scenario voiced is that he will be murdered and Russian troops will be blamed for it once Ukrainian forces enter Bucha.

Mr. Rzhavskiy agreed with the possibility, and declared that he would prefer to live longer, but would accept fate, and was insistent on defending his home and being in the country together with his family. If necessary then with the rifle he had in his possession.

Sadly this is the last time anybody has heard from him.

Briefing by Russian Defence Ministry

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation in Ukraine.

On April 11, buried, well-protected command post of a group of Ukrainian troops in Donbass was destroyed by Kinzhal air missile system near Chasov Yar, Donetsk Region.

High-precision air-based missiles near Selidovo, Donetsk Region, destroyed 1 Ukrainian Tochka-U tactical missile launcher,
2 multiple rocket launchers in 1 underground shelter, 2 camouflaged concentration of weapons and military equipment and up to 40 Ukrainian nationalists.

A base camp of the Right Sector terrorist organization has been destroyed near Novogrodovka, Donetsk Region.

During the day, high-precision ground-based missiles in Popasnaya, Novozvanovka and Zolotoe, Donetsk Region, destroyed 1 battalion command and observation post, 3 company strong points, 2 company tactical groups of the Ukrainian 24th Mechanized Brigade and Territorial Defence Brigade, as well as 2 areas of military equipment concentration.  

In total, up to 300 Ukrainian fighters, over 50 armoured fighting vehicles and up to 25 vehicles of various purposes were destroyed as a result of the strikes in these areas.

Russian air defence means shot down 1 Ukrainian Su-27 aircraft in the air near Sinelnikovo, Dnepropetrovsk region.

Operational-tactical aviation hit 42 military assets of Ukraine. Among them: 3 command posts, 2 radars for illumination and guidance, 1 fuel depot, as well as 35 strong points and areas of Ukrainian military equipment concentration.

In total, 130 aircfaft and 99 helicopters, 243 anti-aircraft missile systems S-300, Buk-M1, Osa AKM, 441 unmanned aerial vehicles, 2,132 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 241 multiple launch rocket systems, 913 field artillery and mortars, as well as 2,028 units of special military vehicles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed during the operation.

Seems NATO is moving towards supplying western armor to Kiev.
At least Germany with Leo-1's and marders.  
You can give the Nazi's Leo2's if you want, it will not make an difference.
you just get the KA-52/MI-28 boys to foam at the mouth and developing an obsession to be the first to kill and "top class" NATO tank.

Ukraine is now the Bears cage where its mauling Ukraine's army to pieces.
Everything you send in is just an distraction.

https://www.rt.com/news/553691-german-manufacturer-ready-send-tanks-ukraine/

so Good, Im sure DPR/RF troops are looking forward to maul some Nazi's in NATO tanks. I would.  

Airbornewolf wrote:Seems NATO is moving towards supplying western armor to Kiev.
At least Germany with Leo-1's and marders.  
You can give the Nazi's Leo2's if you want, it will not make an difference.
you just get the KA-52/MI-28 boys to foam at the mouth and developing an obsession to be the first to kill and "top class" NATO tank.

Ukraine is now the Bears cage where its mauling Ukraine's army to pieces.
Everything you send in is just an distraction.

https://www.rt.com/news/553691-german-manufacturer-ready-send-tanks-ukraine/

so Good, Im sure DPR/RF troops are looking forward to maul some Nazi's in NATO tanks. I would.  
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Panthers and Tigr 2 would be more appropriate . They are for sure already trained on them .

Isos wrote:

Airbornewolf wrote:Seems NATO is moving towards supplying western armor to Kiev.
At least Germany with Leo-1's and marders.  
You can give the Nazi's Leo2's if you want, it will not make an difference.
you just get the KA-52/MI-28 boys to foam at the mouth and developing an obsession to be the first to kill and "top class" NATO tank.

Ukraine is now the Bears cage where its mauling Ukraine's army to pieces.
Everything you send in is just an distraction.

https://www.rt.com/news/553691-german-manufacturer-ready-send-tanks-ukraine/

so Good, Im sure DPR/RF troops are looking forward to maul some Nazi's in NATO tanks. I would.  
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Panthers and Tigr 2 would be more appropriate . They are for sure already trained on them .

They can hang the swastika out on a Leo 1
It's close enough

Lots of videos of Ukrainian losses today. The battle for Checkpoint #29 in Luhansk looked nasty. I'd still like to see Ukraine landlocked, but perhaps the liberation of the Donbas and a land bridge to Crimea is the best that can be hoped for.

sepheronx wrote:

flamming_python wrote:Iran is busy busting Israel's balls, they have no time for the US right now and hope they won't be targeted next
Serbia folded
Argentina folded
China's chilling
India's looking out for number one
Kazakhstan is hedging bets
Pakistan is knocked out of the fight before it even began; lightweights

Yeah, we're by ourselves in this one. Well us and Lukashenko.

Actually, as recently about a week ago NATO was now forming a new group with Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and Australia to have a military force to push against China. So China can't sit anymore, especially that Chinese are starting to get sanctioned as well.

India is looking out for itself but is neutral. That's fine. They still rather trade with Russia.

Kazakhstan won't be neutral. They are trading in rubles and doing business. Russia made sure of this to keep Tokayev into power.  Kazakhstan hasn't done anything bad towards Russia and the rest of what you claimed is just in your head brother.

Pakistan has its own game to play and will be in major trouble regardless the end result. The Army is pro US while the country itself and its people are anti us.  Army can't keep up forever.

Serbia was always weak honestly. They folded to a degree but their people and politicians are all pissed off about it. Vucic is like thay, a weasel.

Argentina? Well, I'm unsure. They seem mostly split honestly and they always been backed by the west.  In the end, it's most of the other Latin American states siding with Russia and China.

You worry to much. You assume far too much with such little evidence.  If you think russia needs others when going up against the west, then you already lost. Russia was always at conflict with the west and always came out fine.  This isn't russias first battle against the west in Ukraine either.

No, I'm sure we'll win one way or the other

Because we're in a crusade against an evil that doesn't belong in the 21st century and it's only going to pick up steam and mobilize society, the economy, everything.

The more I follow this conflict the more I'm sure of it.

But ultimately the rest of the world can't be bystanders. They all have their own battles to wage against the globalist empire. But then they should start waging them, and split the empire's attention.

US, UK conduct 'secret war' in Ukraine: French outlet Le Figaro, 11.04.2022.

Special Air Service (SAS) and Delta Force are part of a "secret war," a French intelligence source told Le Figaro newspaper.

Elite UK and US Special Forces have been present in Ukraine since hostilities with Russia began in late February, a source in the French intelligence community told a Le Figaro reporter last week.

The statement was reported by the senior international correspondent of the newspaper Georges Malbrunot on Saturday (9), the day British Prime Minister Boris Johnson made his surprise visit to Kiev. The British leader was reportedly surrounded by guards from the elite SAS force, although this claim has not been officially confirmed.

The SAS units " have been present in Ukraine since the beginning of the war, as have [sic] the American Deltas,” Malbrunot tweeted citing a French intelligence source. He added that, according to the source, Russia was well aware of the "secret war" waged against its troops by foreign commandos. Le Figaro included the source's account in his updates on Ukraine.

The UK and the US are among Kiev's most active military supporters. Johnson reportedly personally urged his Ukrainian counterpart Vladimir Zelensky to continue fighting Russia and not settle for peace until better terms are offered.

Touched by the resilience, determination and hospitality of Zelensky and Shmygal. Return with a clear to-do list:
1. This war will be won on the battlefield. An additional 500 million are under way. Weapons deliveries will be adapted to Ukrainian needs.

The Pro-Combat consensus in the West was apparently confirmed last week by European Union (EU) foreign policy chief Josep Borrell, who said on Saturday that the "war will be won on the battlefield" as he was also visiting Kiev.

British media previously reported that dozens of "retired" SAS soldiers had gone or planned to go to Ukraine to contribute their experience in reconnaissance and anti-tank warfare to the Kiev cause. His services were allegedly paid for by" a country in Europe, not yet named, through a private military company " and not by the British government, according to the British tabloid Daily Mirror.

The Russian military has reported actions against what it described as" mercenaries " fighting for Ukraine on several occasions. One of the recent cases was on Saturday, while Johnson and Borell were in Kiev.

The Russian Defense Ministry said Kiev tried to use a civilian ship in its latest failed attempt to evacuate high-value personnel from the port city of Mariupol, which has seen some of the most intense fighting during the conflict. The individuals intended for evacuation were identified as leaders of the ultranationalist Azov Battalion and foreign mercenaries. There are unconfirmed reports that hundreds of foreigners may be blocked in Mariupol, along with several thousand soldiers of the Azov Battalion.

The US and UK have publicly stated that they have no plans to involve their troops in the fighting in Ukraine. Both are major arms suppliers to Kiev and were training soldiers in Ukraine before the Russian offensive. The experts were reportedly withdrawn from the country in the run-up to hostilities.

Britain's Defence Ministry banned active duty members from travelling to Ukraine in early March, saying violating the rule could result in legal proceedings. Kiev summoned volunteers abroad to join the ranks of its newly created "Foreign Legion" after the Russian attack.

Russia launched a special military operation in Ukraine at the end of February, after Kiev's failure to implement the terms of the Minsk agreements signed in 2014 and the subsequent recognition by Russia of the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics. The Minsk Protocol, brokered by Germany and France, was designed to give the independence regions a special status within the Ukrainian state.

Since then, Russia has demanded that Ukraine officially declare itself a neutral country that would never join the US-led North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) military bloc.

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https://br.sputniknews.com/20220411/eua-e-reino-unido-conduzem-guerra-secreta-na-ucrania-diz-le-figaro-22212913.html

EDIT To have 'earned' the visit of Mr Kinzhal it must have been an important, well protected deep site. Only the second public use.


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Russian MOD says they've destroyed "a well-fortified command post of Ukrainian forces in Donbass near Chasiv Yar" with a hypersonic "Kinzhal" missile today.





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Boris Johnson's visit to Kyiv confirms London's place as Ukraine's first ally. “Elite SAS special forces units have been present in Ukraine since the beginning of the war, as have the American Deltas,” confides a French intelligence source.

The schizophrenia in NATzO is strong. While their fake stream media bleats about Russia losing, they are starting to ship tanks
to their Kiev quislings. Remember the recent claim that Ukria was grabbing so many Russian tank trophies that it had more tanks
now compared to the start of the war? Yeah, sure. The Russian MOD reports on total tank and armoured vehicle losses is accurate
and the Kiev regime forces are getting to the point of having minivans as their "armour".

But on this board we have talk about Russia retreating. Retreating in the face of what?

JohninMK wrote:
Boris Johnson's visit to Kyiv confirms London's place as Ukraine's first ally. “Elite SAS special forces units have been present in Ukraine since the beginning of the war, as have the American Deltas,” confides a French intelligence source.[/i]

Along with the Frogs' Foreign Legion they're all playing Mahjong right now at the Azovstahl Steelworks factory. Russia should beat the crap out of them. No compromise, including with the Frogs, following the Austrian Chancellor's desperate visit to Moscow today.

I am hearing a lot of bleating from NATzO that it will make Ukraine into another Afghanistan for Russia. The USSR did not lose in Afghanistan.
It withdrew because Gorby was a sell out who destroyed the USSR and together with Yeltsin deserves a lot of the blame for the current
situation in Ukraine. The Afghan government lasted 2 years after the Soviet withdrawal. When the US withdrew last year the government
did not last a week.

The western Ukrian Banderites are only Taliban wannabes. Russia will squeeze them into the borderlands of Poland and they will have no
foothold in eastern and even central "Ukraine".

Kiko wrote:

JohninMK wrote:
Boris Johnson's visit to Kyiv confirms London's place as Ukraine's first ally. “Elite SAS special forces units have been present in Ukraine since the beginning of the war, as have the American Deltas,” confides a French intelligence source.[/i]

Along with the Frogs' Foreign Legion they're all playing Mahjong right now at the Azovstahl Steelworks factory. Russia should beat the crap out of them. No compromise, including with the Frogs, following the Austrian Chancellor's desperate visit to Moscow today.

No Minsk 3 by any measure. That would be a criminal capitulation and the Russian government should fall if it pulled such a move.
The 2014 compromises were dictated by Russia's economic situation. But now there is no excuse.

Also, I highly doubt BoJo was in Kiev. He visited Zelensky in Poland.

Hinex1988 wrote: Briefing by Russian Defence Ministry

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation in Ukraine.

On April 11, buried, well-protected command post of a group of Ukrainian troops in Donbass was destroyed by Kinzhal air missile system near Chasov Yar, Donetsk Region.

High-precision air-based missiles near Selidovo, Donetsk Region, destroyed 1 Ukrainian Tochka-U tactical missile launcher,
2 multiple rocket launchers in 1 underground shelter, 2 camouflaged concentration of weapons and military equipment and up to 40 Ukrainian nationalists.

A base camp of the Right Sector terrorist organization has been destroyed near Novogrodovka, Donetsk Region.

During the day, high-precision ground-based missiles in Popasnaya, Novozvanovka and Zolotoe, Donetsk Region, destroyed 1 battalion command and observation post, 3 company strong points, 2 company tactical groups of the Ukrainian 24th Mechanized Brigade and Territorial Defence Brigade, as well as 2 areas of military equipment concentration.  

In total, up to 300 Ukrainian fighters, over 50 armoured fighting vehicles and up to 25 vehicles of various purposes were destroyed as a result of the strikes in these areas.

Russian air defence means shot down 1 Ukrainian Su-27 aircraft in the air near Sinelnikovo, Dnepropetrovsk region.

Operational-tactical aviation hit 42 military assets of Ukraine. Among them: 3 command posts, 2 radars for illumination and guidance, 1 fuel depot, as well as 35 strong points and areas of Ukrainian military equipment concentration.

In total, 130 aircfaft and 99 helicopters, 243 anti-aircraft missile systems S-300, Buk-M1, Osa AKM, 441 unmanned aerial vehicles, 2,132 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 241 multiple launch rocket systems, 913 field artillery and mortars, as well as 2,028 units of special military vehicles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed during the operation.

According to flight global and few other sources taking an average Ukraine in February had around the following aircraft.

Su-27 = 32
Su-24= 12
Su-25= 20
Mig-29= 45
Total = 109

Mi-24= 33
Mi-8 = 46
Total = 79

With Russia stating 130 aircraft and 99 helicopters Destroyed I understand that these figures will include other aircraft types such as transports, L-39, naval helicopters, mi-26, mi-2 etc but I would imagine Russia has been targeting anything Ukraine could use, but majority of Ukrainian airfields had old out of service aircraft and helicopters that would need extensive work carried out as well as spare parts from Russia. They had loads of mig-29 but most needed work and I wouldn't be surprised if Russia bombed airfields having any in storage but yet again would need serious work on them to get them flying. So the question is what do Ukraine really have left that's flying? And are they really still trying to fly lone aircraft towards Russian troops? The numbers if true they can't have anything left that's in flying condition

The Flight Global numbers mean jack shit. Take the Bayraktar drones for example. The official numbers were grossly understated.
Ukraine has been getting all sorts of former Warsaw Pact equipment since 2014. These transfers were not public.

d_taddei2 wrote:

Hinex1988 wrote: Briefing by Russian Defence Ministry

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation in Ukraine.

On April 11, buried, well-protected command post of a group of Ukrainian troops in Donbass was destroyed by Kinzhal air missile system near Chasov Yar, Donetsk Region.

High-precision air-based missiles near Selidovo, Donetsk Region, destroyed 1 Ukrainian Tochka-U tactical missile launcher,
2 multiple rocket launchers in 1 underground shelter, 2 camouflaged concentration of weapons and military equipment and up to 40 Ukrainian nationalists.

A base camp of the Right Sector terrorist organization has been destroyed near Novogrodovka, Donetsk Region.

During the day, high-precision ground-based missiles in Popasnaya, Novozvanovka and Zolotoe, Donetsk Region, destroyed 1 battalion command and observation post, 3 company strong points, 2 company tactical groups of the Ukrainian 24th Mechanized Brigade and Territorial Defence Brigade, as well as 2 areas of military equipment concentration.  

In total, up to 300 Ukrainian fighters, over 50 armoured fighting vehicles and up to 25 vehicles of various purposes were destroyed as a result of the strikes in these areas.

Russian air defence means shot down 1 Ukrainian Su-27 aircraft in the air near Sinelnikovo, Dnepropetrovsk region.

Operational-tactical aviation hit 42 military assets of Ukraine. Among them: 3 command posts, 2 radars for illumination and guidance, 1 fuel depot, as well as 35 strong points and areas of Ukrainian military equipment concentration.

In total, 130 aircfaft and 99 helicopters, 243 anti-aircraft missile systems S-300, Buk-M1, Osa AKM, 441 unmanned aerial vehicles, 2,132 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 241 multiple launch rocket systems, 913 field artillery and mortars, as well as 2,028 units of special military vehicles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed during the operation.

According to flight global and few other sources taking an  average Ukraine in February had around the following aircraft.

Su-27 = 32
Su-24= 12
Su-25= 20
Mig-29= 45
Total = 109

Mi-24= 33
Mi-8 = 46
Total = 79

With Russia stating 130 aircraft and 99 helicopters Destroyed I understand that these figures will include other aircraft types such as transports, L-39, naval helicopters, mi-26, mi-2 etc but I would imagine Russia has been targeting anything Ukraine could use, but majority of Ukrainian airfields had old out of service aircraft and helicopters that would need extensive work carried out as well as spare parts from Russia. They had loads of mig-29 but most needed work and I wouldn't be surprised if Russia bombed airfields having any in storage but yet again would need serious work on them to get them flying. So the question is what do Ukraine really have left that's flying? And are they really still trying to fly lone aircraft towards Russian troops? The numbers if true they can't have anything left that's in flying condition

They took out a Ukrainian Su-27 just yesterday. And the Su-27 is not something the US or its allies have an inventory of
So it must be the Ukraine's own that it has been hiding. They were prepared for the conflict, that much is certain, they weren't caught by surprise, and US intelligence predicted its start accurately to within 10 days

The 32 figure are the amount officially in service. But the Ukraine also had about that many in storage. It's conceivable that they were transferred out at some stage, or had been restored to flyable status before the war started. Mix and match workable parts, get another 20 going, that sort of thing.

The MiG-29s were targeted on the first night, there's a photo. But again it's possible that the Ukraine has hidden some. In any case, they'll be getting more from Slovakia shortly. Maybe it'll go better for them than the S-300 transfer

Mi-8s the Ukraine has probably been receiving surplus shipments of over the course of the conflict from other ex-Warsaw Pact states. Of course the Ukraine had plenty of its own as well

A couple of Russian aircraft had been taken out over the Donbass recently too. Including a Su-30SM according to a write-up I read.

d_taddei2 wrote:

Hinex1988 wrote: Briefing by Russian Defence Ministry

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation in Ukraine.

On April 11, buried, well-protected command post of a group of Ukrainian troops in Donbass was destroyed by Kinzhal air missile system near Chasov Yar, Donetsk Region.

High-precision air-based missiles near Selidovo, Donetsk Region, destroyed 1 Ukrainian Tochka-U tactical missile launcher,
2 multiple rocket launchers in 1 underground shelter, 2 camouflaged concentration of weapons and military equipment and up to 40 Ukrainian nationalists.

A base camp of the Right Sector terrorist organization has been destroyed near Novogrodovka, Donetsk Region.

During the day, high-precision ground-based missiles in Popasnaya, Novozvanovka and Zolotoe, Donetsk Region, destroyed 1 battalion command and observation post, 3 company strong points, 2 company tactical groups of the Ukrainian 24th Mechanized Brigade and Territorial Defence Brigade, as well as 2 areas of military equipment concentration.  

In total, up to 300 Ukrainian fighters, over 50 armoured fighting vehicles and up to 25 vehicles of various purposes were destroyed as a result of the strikes in these areas.

Russian air defence means shot down 1 Ukrainian Su-27 aircraft in the air near Sinelnikovo, Dnepropetrovsk region.

Operational-tactical aviation hit 42 military assets of Ukraine. Among them: 3 command posts, 2 radars for illumination and guidance, 1 fuel depot, as well as 35 strong points and areas of Ukrainian military equipment concentration.

In total, 130 aircfaft and 99 helicopters, 243 anti-aircraft missile systems S-300, Buk-M1, Osa AKM, 441 unmanned aerial vehicles, 2,132 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 241 multiple launch rocket systems, 913 field artillery and mortars, as well as 2,028 units of special military vehicles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed during the operation.

According to flight global and few other sources taking an  average Ukraine in February had around the following aircraft.

Su-27 = 32
Su-24= 12
Su-25= 20
Mig-29= 45
Total = 109

Mi-24= 33
Mi-8 = 46
Total = 79

With Russia stating 130 aircraft and 99 helicopters Destroyed I understand that these figures will include other aircraft types such as transports, L-39, naval helicopters, mi-26, mi-2 etc but I would imagine Russia has been targeting anything Ukraine could use, but majority of Ukrainian airfields had old out of service aircraft and helicopters that would need extensive work carried out as well as spare parts from Russia. They had loads of mig-29 but most needed work and I wouldn't be surprised if Russia bombed airfields having any in storage but yet again would need serious work on them to get them flying. So the question is what do Ukraine really have left that's flying? And are they really still trying to fly lone aircraft towards Russian troops? The numbers if true they can't have anything left that's in flying condition

IISS Military World Balance have higher numbers, especially with helicopters, then Flight Global does. Which in it's self is unusual.

"Our S-300 was not destroyed," Slovak government spokesperson Lubica Janikova said.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-strikes-s-300-missile-systems-given-ukraine-by-european-state-2022-04-11/

ok so we have confirmation it was Slovak


Soviet missile still ok to use to bomb naziscum. Im asking because if Russian forces wont be increased then West will keep providing enormous stream fo arms to naziscum. Something that can deplete calibrs/Iskander storages in long perspective.

1) Kh-15 was fully withdrawn? or Russia can still use kh-15P or kh-15S ?


2) Kh-555/Kh-55 - are there any info/estimates how many was in stores before denazification started?

3) Tochka was withdrawn but not utilizes, how many Tochkas were in service before withdrawal?

GunshipDemocracy wrote:"Our S-300 was not destroyed," Slovak government spokesperson Lubica Janikova said.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-strikes-s-300-missile-systems-given-ukraine-by-european-state-2022-04-11/

ok so we have confirmation it was Slovak

Too embarrassing for them. And it's not "theirs" anymore. Some hurt pride here?

While the Pentagon says "we don't have any information"

Soviet missile still ok to use to bomb naziscum. Im asking because if Russian forces wont be increased then West will keep providing enormous stream fo arms to naziscum. Something that can deplete calibrs/Iskander storages in long perspective.

They have a nice selection on offer
Always possible to lower the frequency of use of one weapon, while its production line refills the stocks

1) Kh-15 was fully withdrawn? or Russia can still use kh-15P or kh-15S ?

Kh-15 is nuclear like Garry mentioned

But.
That doesn't mean it shouldn't be made ready. Not at hand, but just, not too far away.

2) Kh-555/Kh-55  - are there any info/estimates how many was in stores before denazification started?

You won't get any estimate about any modern missile like that, strictly classified.

While for Cold War era missiles there are rough estimates or sometimes even precise ones, as they were mostly subject to arms control agreements and inspections in the late 80s-2000s

3) Tochka was withdrawn but not utilizes, how many Tochkas were in service before withdrawal?

The Tochka is still a perfectly good missile, albeit it can be shot down by modern air defenses and is not super accurate. For use against personnel, light vehicles, artillery, ammo dumps not too far behind the front lines - perfectly fine.

The trouble comes from its use by the Ukrainians to kill civilians.

Russia can keep it as a weapon in reserve, in case of mobilization. Or it can transfer the launchers it has to Belarus, so that Belarus can form some more missile brigades. In fact Russia might have done that already.

Russia probably has several hundred missiles

GunshipDemocracy wrote:"Our S-300 was not destroyed," Slovak government spokesperson Lubica Janikova said.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-strikes-s-300-missile-systems-given-ukraine-by-european-state-2022-04-11/

ok so we have confirmation it was Slovak


Soviet missile still ok to use to bomb naziscum. Im asking because if Russian forces wont be increased then West will keep providing enormous stream fo arms to naziscum. Something that can deplete calibrs/Iskander storages in long perspective.

1) Kh-15 was fully withdrawn? or Russia can still use kh-15P or kh-15S ?


2) Kh-555/Kh-55  - are there any info/estimates how many was in stores before denazification started?

3) Tochka was withdrawn but not utilizes, how many Tochkas were in service before withdrawal?

Missiles have an expiration date. You don't want your tu-160 to launch a missile that can badly launch and destroy your tu-160.

Ability to produce missiles is what matters, not stocks. Russians have prepared this war for a long time now and since they figured out they will need to attack they have probably increased production.


Concerning numbers, Ukraine in 1991 was left with around 60 tu-22M, 23-29 tu-95 and 19 Tu-160. They had around 1100 kh-55 of which 487 scrapped and 587 returned to Russia. They also scrapped 483 kh-22 missiles. They also sold some to Iran which suggests they lied on the numbers.

Now you can imagine about what USSR kept in Russia. Total number of tu-22M in service was 497, 27 serial and 9 prototype of tu-160 and more than 500 tu-95 of all sort.

I let you do the math. But again 30 years have passed since soviet time. If they didn't refurbished those missiles then they are useless.

In my opinion they had 10 times more in Russia than in Ukraine. So 10 000 kh-55 and 5000 kh-22.