Russian special military operation in Ukraine #13

I know it's yesterday's news now, but I couldn't resist

Regarding denazification and people with tattoos...are kolovorat swastikas and slavic/russian symbols alike banned or looked out for?
Apparently retarded nationalists have occupied kolovorat as their symbol while it has only ancient russian roots.

Anyone know if they have a codebook of banned runes/tattoos?

I am asking because I have since many years a bronze kolovorat pendant.

Hannibal Barca wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

mnztr wrote:Anyone notice Medvedevs  political rehabilitation? He has been on TV a lot .

People keep forgetting that he was the president when Russia stomped Georgia and it took Putin coming back from Beiling to get him to cool off and not roll into Tbilsi

Dmitry is crazy

Exactly. People don't understand that Medvedev is more hard liner than Putin and probably more effective leader overall. There is an overfixation with Putin but truth is, although Putin succeeded in low hanging fruits and although he is a very decent character, never exceeded expectations.

Funny how the general opinion about him is exactly the opposite.
Including the Ossetian perspective, where they openly (a president of SO) claim that Dima's inability to make decisions cost lives and delayed the operation by 24h.
The question in being is, if he was restricted with decision making by the Putin, or his own character - but the fact remains.
On another occasion, he was typed on a meeting with Obama, whispering that "everything will be provided to the boss, and he will make a decision", so that speaks much for itself.

flamming_python wrote:

Werewolf wrote:Regarding denazification and people with tattoos...are kolovorat swastikas and slavic/russian symbols alike banned or looked out for?
Apparently retarded nationalists have occupied kolovorat as their symbol while it has only ancient russian roots.

Anyone know if they have a codebook of banned runes/tattoos?

I am asking because I have since many years a bronze kolovorat pendant.

Yeah dude all that shit belongs either in 404 or in the 90s

Retouch your tat into like a lotus or something

Tons of that runic tattoos were made on the wave of popularity of The Vikings series, and a general turn towards tribal/pre-Christian history.
Does not prove anything, still can be a good beginning.
On the other hand, some of the testimonies, again, claim that tattoos were popular mostly at low ranks of nazbattalions, while the real puppet masters avoided that at. They get better training obviously, remembering how the SS tattoos were searched for after 1945.

flamming_python wrote:

Werewolf wrote:Regarding denazification and people with tattoos...are kolovorat swastikas and slavic/russian symbols alike banned or looked out for?
Apparently retarded nationalists have occupied kolovorat as their symbol while it has only ancient russian roots.

Anyone know if they have a codebook of banned runes/tattoos?

I am asking because I have since many years a bronze kolovorat pendant.

Yeah dude all that shit belongs either in 404 or in the 90s

Retouch your tat into like a lotus or something

I don't have tattoos. It is just a pendant and since I am very interested in history and how our ancestors lived that is why I bought one like 12 years ago. Would be very pissed if our history again is abused by retards.

flamming_python wrote:
Paganism can lead down the road to Nazism. Whether it's Slavic paganism somewhat associated with the Ukrainian clusterfuck, or the German neo-paganism that the Nazis promoted, or the Tengrinism that many of the modern-day Panturk retards go by. Well often it's the other way around. The belief in the uniqueness or superiority of one's breed comes first, and then the interest in what your ancestors believed in 2000 years ago.

I mean, not neccessarily but there is a correlation.
Because pagan faiths are ultimately a refutation of the moral codes that arrived with monotheistic religions. Thus you have things like blood-clan unions rather than uniting tribes based upon a belief in a deity, you have things like LGBT, you have sacrifices, rituals, all the things you can get when you reject Christianity/Islam/etc..

About your pendant; I don't see the problem with it if it's just a cultural/ancestral interest and you don't start abiding by some new philosophy.

It certainly can lead to nationalistic believes or superiority vs inferiority views of culture,race and ethnicity, no doubt about it.

However, what i have experienced talking to people with interest of things like BotN and Buhurt is that the vast majority are completely the opposite and are for more friendly relationships between slavic and non slavic people just like many who have an interest in history and ancient roots.

Slavic people always have been believers of superficial stuff and even the most dogmatic orthodox christians like I personally know from my family have deep ties with superficial believes about old deities and mythical-like beings. "Домовой дух" for example which till this day to many christians believe in.

Gonzalo Lira is alive he was apprehended by the SBU
Appears understandably shaken
https://youtu.be/R2yeSOcNlgE

Serberus wrote:Gonzalo Lira is alive he was apprehended by the SBU
Appears understandably shaken
https://youtu.be/R2yeSOcNlgE

I am so happy to see he is alive. I was not expecting him to be.

But, if I correctly understood the situation, the A plan failed because of Ukrainian decision to go ahead and not so much for a Russian "failure". So, by now, I think it would have been better for the Ukrainians to have allowed the Russian plan A to succeed. In my opinion.

Just further evidence of the distance between the Ukrainian leadership and the people they claim to represent... but then if Kiev cared about its people then it would not have Donbass under seige in the first place...

So blaming Russia or Putin for giving them a choice is foolish, because obviously blame should be laid at Zelenksy for making the wrong choice for his people and his country... but not apparently for his wallet.

A lot of people, not the majority, but a lot of people, see Ukraine for what it is a scam where a tragedy is being used to make Wall Street and the MIC money.

And that is what it is all about.... eliminate competition for US gas sales to Europe, and damaging Russia internationally so the US and west become more competitive for international sales... with the tiny hope of breaking Putin and somehow eventually breaking Russia up into little pieces they can gorge on the resources of for 50 years.

Afghanistan was not about Afghan women getting rights... it was about rare earth minerals and other mining rights in places that have serious geological activity but no sustained industrial mining companies have ever had the chance to exploit.

But anyway clearly people cheering Ukraine will glorify Azov battalion for "holding out".

And when Russian forces eventually get in there and find evidence of canibalism that glory might be a little tinted.

H I Sutton states in his blog that there is "strong circumstantial evidence" that russian submarines are launching cruise missiles at Ukraine

First of all he supports Kiev propaganda, so I really don't care what he has to say... but why wouldn't Russian submarines take part in destroying the nazi regime next door and free the real Ukrainians from the evil of the west?

But Klub missiles launched from Russian subs especially in the Black Sea will probably have to fly over NATO airspace.

Have a good look at a map... the entire south coast of the original Ukraine is the Black Sea coast... what HATO countries airspace would it need to enter to get to targets in the Ukraine?

That is ridiculous. And those Calibrs have a range of 2,500km so any target in the Ukraine could easily be hit from the Black Sea without going near any HATO country.

NLAW is incredibly overdesigned. Too heavy and bulky to carry in the assault, too short-ranged to use from proper standoff, basically unguided, massive overkill for most targets but super marginal when fired against tanks frontally like it was designed to be.

I could have told them that...

I know my wifes friend was making talking points about the war and my wife had to tell her that she isn't getting the story at all because she has now a deep hatred for Ukrainians when they were using Indians as hostages/shields and openly threatened India.

If you could get a large group of parents who think the same together that might be worth something... especially if there are indians and pakistanis together on the issue.

I doubt they would allow the truth to be spread because they don't even know what that is but perhaps you could aim to get current events to focus on other things like the Turkish invasion of Iraq... what do they mean they didn't know that happened... surely western media kept them informed about such an important thing like an invasion....

If you fight them you will make things harder for your daughter... and things are hard enough these days for kids, but perhaps you are not the only one upset about this...

The Kilo can stay submerged for 45 days and carries 4 Kalibr. Turkey closed the Bosporous on 28th Feb. Did they enter before that? How will they return to base now?

....Turkey has closed off the Bosphorus and Dardanelles straits to warships from any country, whether or not they border the Black Sea, following Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

The strait closures will still allow warships through if they are returning to a home base in the Black Sea, according to reporting from Naval News. This would include Russian ships in the country’s Black Sea Fleet.

https://news.usni.org/2022/02/28/turkey-closes-bosphorus-dardanelles-straits-to-warships

Would it not make more sense for the subs to just transit the Bosphorus submerged? How would Turkey know? and if they did, what would they do about it? In any case they have enough Kaliber capable ships in the black sea as well as cruise missile capable bombers.

Subs based in the Black Sea have the right to return to base and can sail through the straits on the surface to do so.

Sutton adds that a couple of Kalibr-armed subs are in the Med, and *they* wouldn't be able to attack Ukrainian targets without overflying NATO territory. But that's like, why even mention it, not gonna happen.

If they are needed they can cross in to the Black Sea but once in the Black Sea they would not be allowed to leave so they will likely stay where they are.

But is there any need for Russian ships, submarines to launch missiles when that job is already being done by the RuAF and the Army?

Why would they not want to help?

Re the old stock part the general principal behind Yakhont/Onyx/Brahmos is...a fast projectile with a relatively lite warhead meant to trigger an explosion.

Picture from this week's Brahmos Ashm missile. Maybe the principal behind using the Kalibr is different.

That photo just shows the kinetic impact of the missile... if it had a functioning warhead the ships structure above the impact point would be blown away.

For what it's worth I think it is illegal for a sub to transit the Bosphorus submerged.

It is, but it would not be required to.

Easter was last weekend for all the Catholics in the west of Ukraine, so its too late.

That easter doesn't mean much to Russia.

It ****'d up and was defeated. The whole Black Sea Fleet was. Get over it

Maybe you are watching a different war... the Ukrainian black sea fleet is gone and was defeated, but the BS fleet is still operational and active.

Incursion attempt into Russia , not verified as yet.
There is information about an attempt to break into Russia by Ukrainian tanks. The emergency occurred in the Goptovka district (border checkpoint on the Ukrainian-Russian border in the Dergachev district of the Kharkiv region). 10 Ukrainian tanks were involved, 8 were destroyed, 2 turned back. At the moment, the Nekhoteevka checkpoint is closed until further notice.


A Ukrainian transport plane crashed.
The Zaporozhye Regional Military Administration said that the plane caught on a power line, one person died, two were injured.
The transport plane was probably flying at extremely low altitude to avoid being hit by Russian air defenses and fighters.

https://t.me/DonbassDevushka

Yes, the Russians are not tearing down bridges across Ukraine like the NAZI-NATO pact during the NAZI-NATO pact during the aggression on the Federal Yugoslavia. In the second largest city in Serbia, Novi Sad, 3 out of 3 bridges on the Danube were destroyed.
There was a story that the NAZI-NATO Pact planned to do the same in Belgrade, but that it was prevented by the then President of France, Jacques Chirac. Whether that is true or not, I do not know, but the Belgrade bridges have remained intact. Demolition of bridges in Belgrade (especially the "Gazelle" bridge) would cause a complete collapse of road traffic to the south of Europe; Greece, Bulgaria, Northern Macedonia and thus Turkey.



"Слобода / Freedom" Bridge, Novi Sad.



"Жежељев / Zhezhel" bridge, Novi Sad. This bridge was bombed several times by the NAZI-NATO Pact and was eventually mined by FRY miners, because the attacks on the bridge (which did not want to fall into the water) caused great damage to civilian buildings in the area.





"Варадински / Varadinski" bridge, Novi Sad.

Russian MoD says that they cruise missiled a concentration of UA reinforcements east of Dnipro, by the railway yard of Melioratyvne.

They say hundreds were killed.

TASS; Military operation in Ukraine (VIDEO LINK is at the bottom ..)
Apr 22, 10:47 am

Frigate of the Black Sea Fleet launched Caliber missiles at targets in Ukraine

The Russian Defense Ministry clarified that the crew from the Black Sea carried out a salvo launch of four cruise missiles

MOSCOW, April 22. /TASS/. The crew of the Black Sea Fleet frigate launched four Kalibr cruise missiles at targets in Ukraine, the Russian Defense Ministry told reporters on Friday.

"The crew of the frigate of the Black Sea Fleet from the Black Sea carried out a salvo launch of four Kalibr cruise missiles at designated ground targets on the territory of Ukraine," the military department informed.

Earlier, the official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, Major General Igor Konashenkov, said that Caliber cruise missiles destroyed up to a battalion of enemy personnel with weapons in the area of ​​​​the Meliorativnoye railway station.

https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/14446723

TASS; Military operation in Ukraine
Apr 22, 10:58 am


The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation published data on desertion in one of the units of the National Guard of Ukraine

According to the list, five people arbitrarily left the unit, six were missing, 22 servicemen were captured




MOSCOW, April 22. /TASS/. The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation published in the Telegram channel https://t.me/mod_russia/14631 new data on the losses of servicemen of the National Guard of Ukraine, including information about the desertion of servicemen of military unit 3017.

"We continue to publish separate data on the losses of the National Guard of Ukraine, obtained from real Ukrainian documents. Today we are disclosing information about significant losses among the military personnel of the 3rd operational brigade of the NSU (military unit 3017) (as of March 29, 2022)," the statement says. in the message.

The submitted documents contain data on the combat losses of the military personnel of military unit 3017, the circumstances of their death and the place of burial, as well as information on the losses of the military personnel of this unit due to injury or injury, unauthorized abandonment of the unit, desertion and captured military. According to the list, five people arbitrarily left the unit, six were missing, 22 servicemen were captured.

According to the ministry, the data comes from real Ukrainian documents.

On Monday, the Russian Ministry of Defense began to publish lists with personal data of the dead Ukrainian servicemen with dates of birth, ranks, circumstances and places of fatal wounds. The Russian military department also announced that it has data on a large number of deserted Ukrainian military, wounded and missing, and information on the true losses of the Ukrainian army, the National Guard and foreign mercenaries who arrived.

Earlier, the official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, Major General Igor Konashenkov, said that the irretrievable losses of Ukrainian troops and mercenaries amount to 23,367 people.

https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/14446879

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Russian MoD says that they cruise missiled a concentration of UA reinforcements east of Dnipro, by the railway yard of Melioratyvne.

They say hundreds were killed.

I'm rooting for Yavoriv 3.0 and more TBH.

TASS; Military operation in Ukraine
22 Apr, 10:14 (Updated 10:50)

The Ministry of Defense named the tasks of the second stage of the special operation in Ukraine

One of the tasks is to establish full control over the Donbass and Southern Ukraine, this will allow creating a land corridor to Crimea and another exit to Transnistria, Major General Rustam Minnekaev, Deputy Commander of the Central Military District, said. READ THIS MANY TIMES; RTN, FUCKTARDCUB, LIMB, etc.







YEKATERINBURG, April 22. /TASS/. The Russian army during the second stage of the special operation should establish full control over the Donbass. This was stated by Deputy Commander of the Central Military District (CVO), Major General Rustam Minnekayev, at the annual meeting of the Union of Defense Industries of the Sverdlovsk Region.
"Since the beginning of the second phase of the special operation, it has already begun, literally two days ago, one of the tasks of the Russian army is to establish full control over the Donbass and southern Ukraine," he said.

The control of the RF Armed Forces over the Donbass will make it possible to create a land corridor to the Crimea, Minnekaev stressed.

"This (control over the Donbass - TASS note) will provide a land corridor to the Crimea, as well as influence the vital facilities of the Ukrainian [military forces], Black Sea ports through which agricultural and metallurgical products are delivered to [other] countries," - said the deputy commander.

"Control over the South of Ukraine is another way out to Pridnestrovie, where there are also facts of oppression of the Russian-speaking population. Apparently, we are now at war with the whole world, as it was in the Great Patriotic War, all of Europe, the whole world was against us. And now the same thing, they never liked Russia," he added.

Minnekaev stressed that the technical superiority of the Russian army over the Ukrainian Armed Forces on land, sea and airspace is obvious.

"During strikes, the Russian armed forces do not suffer any losses. This kills the morale of the personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine the most. The technical superiority of the Russian army on land, at sea and in the air has become obvious," he said.

Minnekaev added that the special operation should be "successfully brought to its logical conclusion." He stated that all tasks set will be fulfilled.

“We didn’t start this war, but we will finish it,” Minnekaev said.​

https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/14446141

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Russian MoD says that they cruise missiled a concentration of UA reinforcements east of Dnipro, by the railway yard of Melioratyvne.

They say hundreds were killed.

That´s why they don´t bomb every bridge across the Dnjepr.