Russian special military operation in Ukraine #13

There was a failed Ukrainian advance towards Belgorod 1-2 days ago

The assault group got destroyed, some of them were able to retreat.

[23.04.2022 22:24]

Let me clarify a little about yesterday's counterattack of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Kharkov. It is not entirely clear with what forces the AFU attacked and what was their ultimate goal, but yesterday at 5 in the morning, they (according to my estimates) up to one motorized infantry battalion, supported by tanks, attacked the positions of the RF Armed Forces near Cossack Lopan.

Since this was bound to happen sooner or later, the attack did not become a sensation for the RF Armed Forces. At first, ATGMs were fired at the attacking enemy, and then an artillery strike was inflicted on the stopped infantry and equipment.
2 tanks and 8 infantry fighting vehicles were definitely destroyed, I don’t know how many infantry of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were killed and wounded, but the losses are very serious. The enemy retreated, there were no losses on our side.

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It's like the suicide runs with the Su-24s and Su-25s as of late

They'll do anything to bring the war to 'Russian territory', even if just a few hundred meters in. It's needed for that latest morale boost injection.
Doesn't matter that such attempts incur big losses
And they'll try again soon enough

ALAMO wrote:

flamming_python wrote:
And they'll try again soon enough

It is an agony.

This 'agony' I fear may go on even until the last Ukrainian male is unable to fight, and they start fitting suicide belts to women and children. There is nothing to 'win' in this war. Russia hasn't come up with anything clever so far

There is a total turn to the far-right and Banderization in the Ukraine now.
It's inaccurate to say it was like this over the past years; since the end of the 1st war they moved the extremism and many of the extremists to under the surface or at most to the Donbass as it all interfered with society and public image. But all this stuff is rapidly being resurfaced now and given complete reign over the country.

mnztr wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:

mnztr wrote:

ucmvulcan wrote:

mnztr wrote:
IMHO Russia does not have the population to be a "Pole" in a multi polar world. The USSR had a much larger pop + the eastern bloc was definitely a "pole". But with 144m Russia can hope to be an influential country within a bloc at the most. The USA + EU+ Japan is close to 800M people. Even with CIS the pop is only 214m.
Russia will not be the center of anything,

But Russia with the CIS, and  China and India has a block of 2.5 billion or a little more than 1 out of every 4 people on this pale blue dot.

Like I said, influential member of a bloc. China will be the center of that group. I do worry that Russia can get a fair shake with China. But there is no question China will be the leader of this bloc. Russia will be the mediator between India and China.

It requires more to be influential in the world than economy and population although yes they are prerequisites

It requires above all else the protection of your own interests, and protection of self determination for people anywhere

Russia is more adept at this than China or India, hence why westerners say that we punch above our political "weight class"

It's got nothing to do with raw numbers, and more the ability to create something in space that is left behind by retreating globalism/Liberalism

Chinese have yet to produce a thinker like Dugin, which can challenge liberal heavyweights like Henri Bernard Levy

In fact Russia has more positions in Africa than China due to its raw geopolitical experience

Which China is still a Dwarf in , and it shows in the Himalayas, south pacific and east pacific

While Russia will not be the center of anything, it will represent and does represent the second largest pole in the world after Globalist Liberalism

Without a doubt Russki Mir has already shown itself as a viable pole, which China dreams of producing,

We will see about Taiwan, but what Russia has done in Ukraine

Shows the infancy of states like China, India, and the rest of global south in having a seat at the table

Organizations like UN, will not decide anything

Only cultural and historical power, roots, and the ability to shape your interests will decide whether you sit at the table or not

And so far Putin, And thinkers like Dugin have succeeded where the Chinese have not

Incredibly arrogant to say China is in its "infancy" China has been an advanced society for far longer then Russia I would say. They have a long history of philosophy and political thought. Of course much of it was wiped out in the cultural revolution just as communism took a toll on so much Russian culture and humanities. Russia is a indispensable partner of China and India. China and India need each other, but they don't trust each other, and they both trust Russia. That is a very good thing for Russia. And I hope they can make the most of it.

Arrogant or not, If you want to be a pole in Multipolar world

You need more than money and people

You need to fill the vacuum of Liberal Globalism retreating

China did succeed with Hong Kong, but Hong Kong was already attached to China Physically and politically with CCP as a Special Administrative Region

Taiwan (ROC) has not had CCP organs in it for a long time,

For China to gain ground there, it will take more than CCP , China will have to go to its historical roots, it's dynasties and use that culture and history to integrate Taiwan

This being said, Taiwan is a part of the Chinese world, they speak Chinese and are basically the same people

So it's another Ukraine

The benefit of Russia in Ukraine, is that these people actually are Russians

And denazification means we just kill the ones who continue to fight, until they surrender or are all dead

China is swallowing a bitter reality pill, in that if it will regain Taiwan at all, it will have to do so this way

Otherwise, it will wait hundreds of years before Liberalism gives up Taiwan to China

flamming_python wrote:

ALAMO wrote:

flamming_python wrote:
And they'll try again soon enough

It is an agony.

This 'agony' I fear may go on even until the last Ukrainian male is unable to fight, and they start fitting suicide belts to women and children. There is nothing to 'win' in this war. Russia hasn't come up with anything clever so far

There is a total turn to the far-right and Banderization in the Ukraine now.
It's inaccurate to say it was like this over the past years; since the end of the 1st war they moved the extremism and many of the extremists to under the surface or at most to the Donbass as it all interfered with society and public image. But all this stuff is rapidly being resurfaced now and given complete reign over the country.

It's a fight against Liberalism, and the denazification is just killing the younger cousin of a bygone ideology,  

Nazism was rehabilitated, not to succeed but to occupy land and people near Russia where Liberalism couldn't

It's the same with radical sunni Islam

The echoes of nationalist arab thought, reborn in radical ISIS and Islamic groups that were nurtured by the US to destroy non liberal states which were in the Levant.

Liberals and nazi cousins are united in that they fight for relevance in Post Modernity

This is why liberal states arm the nazis ,

Because they share the same dilemma

They are dying and eating themselves, and must at least try to consume Russian civilization before they die out completely

Nazism itself had a much shorter lifespan than Liberalism

And this modern iteration of banderoUkropia will last until we are done killing the last hohol who abides by this ideology

It's that simple

If you don't like it, move to Canada

In the end we will end in the same confrontation with liberals

They cannot agree to anything with us but at least Ukraine will mark the end of Russki Mir, from that point on we can glass whatever lies outside our zone

But in Ukraine, we must denazify it, and replace its outgoing ideology with Russianess

It's simple formula

Arkanghelsk wrote:It's a fight against Liberalism, and the denazification is just killing the younger cousin of a bygone ideology,  

Nazism was rehabilitated, not to succeed but to occupy land and people near Russia where Liberalism couldn't

It's the same with radical sunni Islam

The echoes of nationalist arab thought, reborn in radical ISIS and Islamic groups that were nurtured by the US to destroy non liberal states which were in the Levant.

Liberals and nazi cousins are united in that they fight for relevance in Post Modernity

This is why liberal states arm the nazis ,

Because they share the same dilemma

They are dying and eating themselves, and must at least try to consume Russian civilization before they die out completely

Nazism itself had a much shorter lifespan than Liberalism

And this modern iteration of banderoUkropia will last until we are done killing the last hohol who abides by this ideology

It's that simple

If you don't like it, move to Canada

In the end we will end in the same confrontation with liberals

They cannot agree to anything with us but at least Ukraine will mark the end of Russki Mir, from that point on we can glass whatever lies outside our zone

But in Ukraine, we must denazify it, and replace its outgoing ideology with Russianess

It's simple formula

All these ideologies are just a function of geo-politics, the clash of empires. And those ideologies and national ideas that need to find something in common - will do so. 'The enemy of my enemy is my friend' is the overriding principle of international politics.

The Ukraine became a Western client state, so adopted Nazism and anti-Russian nationalism as an alliance between Western elites and the Western Ukrainian mafia/Bandera community, together with the Dnepropetrovsk industrial clans (the Donetsk clan was completely thrown out with Yanukovich). Because that's what was needed from them.
If the Ukraine had become a pro-Russian state, it would have had a different ideology; the 'Russian world'. But we have no elites to ally with there and our feeble attempts at the start of the op got us only as far as Kherson. Not even Kharkov. Hence why the war is hard-fought. Many of the mayors of even small towns in the Ukraine are Bandera-loyalists, to make no mention of large cities. There are large garrisons of nationalists and SBU in every east Ukrainian city to make sure local elites don't get out of line; I'm surprised we even managed Kherson and Melitopol really.

The thing you don't get though is that it's actually bigger than all this
And potentially it won't be a battle to the last Ukrainian, but to the last Slav outright
Not because there is something special about us - but because this is where the fault lines are between the West and the 2nd world (Russia/China/etc)

I didn't want to voice this, but potentially I can see Poland being Banderacized next as a project of the Anglos - they've taken a lot of Ukrainian refugees, and are now taking down even Soviet war grave memorials, and their leaders are claiming Russophobia as something mainstream. Baltics, Balkans - also sources for more cannon fodder against Russia. And it'll be battlefield Ukraine for everyone.
Of course Central Asian and Caucasus Islamists are being reactivated now too, to conduct sabotage in Russia and the ex-USSR.
While Russia itself - well we're being paid by the Chinese to fight the West, they consider us a 'fighting people' so have granted us the honor. So we get to fight on their behalf, and certainly they'll support us as if we fall, they'll be surrounded. But yeah, we're cannon fodder too. Pobedobesie, all this shit.
In the Donbass, we ordered a mass mobilization at the start of the operation, and even school teachers now are being sent against Ukrainian positions (and being captured) - so it's not just Kiev that declared total war.

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Question: Did the genius policy of handing out assault weapons to civilians apply to the Kiev-held cities in the Donbass region too?

I haven't heard anything about it. Only in the western towns, including Kiev (where it immediately had some nasty side effects), as well as a couple of cities in the south, where Russians have disarmed them (they didn't put up any kind of fight, really, most rather tried to sell the guns and ammo for more useful supplies).

Just got me thinking, because I've seen many videos of locals having a hearty, approving laugh at Russian strikes on UA positions in say Kramatorsk, and just today in Druzhivka, so their love for Kiev seems questionable at best.

If Zelensky's idea of arming random civilians wasn't considered there, it was probably for a good reason, so to speak. But I would like some additional info to corroborate/dispel this hunch of mine.

Not sure about the Donbas there were stories of civilians in Kherson turning in weapons.

par far wrote:"Kalibr visits an arms depot in Lvov!"


This is the best footage of Kalibr Cruise Missile I have seen.

Keep up, already posted and commented on.

Neither Dugin nor Bernard Levi are 'heavyweights'

Dugin is a shadow who builds upon the work of a greater mind; Gumilev
Bernard Levi is just an Empire of Chaos instrument

Heavyweights were mostly in the 19th century, some in the 20th. Those whose analysis made sense and still do.

The only serious contribution of late has been Huntington, whose works actually made predictions that are steadily coming true, at least some of them.

Whereas Fukuyama, Dugin, Levi are all straight ideologists, not serious researchers or academicians - who only see what they want to see; and naturally whose writings yield claptrap and false prophecies

flamming_python wrote:Neither Dugin nor Bernard Levi are 'heavyweights'

Dugin is a shadow who builds upon the work of a greater mind; Gumilev
Bernard Levi is just an Empire of Chaos instrument

Heavyweights were mostly in the 19th century, some in the 20th. Those whose analysis made sense and still do.

The only serious contribution of late has been Huntington, whose works actually made predictions that are steadily coming true, at least some of them.

Whereas Fukuyama, Dugin, Levi are all straight ideologists, not serious researchers or academicians - who only see what they want to see; and naturally whose writings yield claptrap and false prophecies

Those thinkers have become irrelevant in the age of post modernity

We live in the 2022 year

If you look, it's not that Russia is proposing an alternate ideology, in fact Russia has no intention or capacity to do so

Russias role is simple, to negate Liberalism, anywhere it appears, because Liberalism is undoing of culture and history, and Russian world cannot coexist in that world, neither can Islam, neither can Chinese world, Indian world, and other poles which start to form

In Syria, there is nothing to do except to insist on Assad

In Ukraine, it's the insistence of Russian world, and elimination of nazism (itself a zombie ideology, rebirthed by liberals to aid in containment of Russia)

The oligarchs and leaders do not matter. What matters is Russian people, even if Ukraine is severely depopulated,

The only thing Russia is proposing in Ukraine, is Russian world

There is no alternative, neither politically, or ideologically

We're not there to write a constitution, or to form an idea

We're there to impose our history and culture

If it were Syria, we would not do so, we would just insist on Assad

But Ukraine as Putin wrote, Is same as Russia

So the playbook is Russian world

There's no alternative here

Once Ukraine is denazified

We go back to promoting self determination in any zone where Liberalism asserts itself

It works well precisely because of non ideological Approach to contesting Liberalism

We don't have to worry about that

We just have to promote identity, whatever that may be as long as it is anti liberal

Ideologies are just a function. An idealism. You can't make predictions based on them as old ones will disintegrate when no-one is left to promote them and new ones will come to the fore. And any ruling elites can change their ideologies as required.

And they do have a real-world effect, they produce different societies, motivations of leaders and all this shit

But ultimately you have to examine the world scientifically, through materialism. Take away all idealism; ideologies, nationalism, religion, etc..
And what you are left with is just the world divided into different political-economic blocs and the elites that control them; and who all have the tendency to expand, make more copies of themselves, and compete for new markets and human resources - if necessary by violence. And then find out what their priorities are, geographies, resources.
From there you can make predictions.
Fault-line in Ukraine? Yeah sure - it's right in the middle between two rival blocs, and never managed to make a firm choice until the Nazi coup; but that didn't bring it stability.