Russian special military operation in Ukraine #13

Looks like some flight control system failure. No smoke, nothing, just a flatspin.

Under normal circumstances it should be easily recoverable, but technical failures do occur.

Arkanghelsk wrote:Does anyone know why forces pushed up near Krivoy Rog?

What is up with that? Are they going to krivoy rog or zaporizhia?

That attack looks weird when looking at the map

We have almost no information about Kiev regime supply operations to the LDNR front.   It would make sense for
Russia to draw away regime forces with feints.   These feints are not vapid, they are destructive.   When the
regime forces bite they get ground down with air strikes, MLRS and artillery.   So feints are not temporary diversions
of regime forces.   I think this operation is part of the cauldron formation in Donetsk.

sepheronx wrote:
Never underestimate the stupidity of a failing force.  Ukraine may try anything as desperation (as we are seeing) grows.

It grows, because their sponsors are not that stupid, anyway.
If one is cleaning own warehouses, one expects to see the results.
And there are hardly any.
Watch the pro-Ukr sources.
They are running on the remains.
Combination of very old materials, with fakes, some unclaimed pics, and they are getting an orgasmic fiesta each time when they manage to show a kill of a single truck or APC ...
When Telegram is flooded with hundreds of dead Ukrs, with documents, names, material, tens of heavy equipment, - the only what we have from the Ukropistan side are multiple claims about how they raze Moskaliaki.
Geee ... do you? How charming
The reason is clear - even if Russkies are losing some men and material, we talk a factor of Ukro.
At this stage, I would put it at 1:20 rather than 1:10 already. Plus, they are gaining ground, making it impossible to deny.

For God's sake, they have poured thousands of AT weapons, thousands of MANPADS, stuff collected for decades.
The only reason why they can supply them is the fact that there are some remaining stocks left after WarPac and some really old shit back from the Soviet times in the west ...
And what is the result? I really mean it. What is an objective result? Few hundreds of Russian trucks, APCs, tanks in total? 10 planes, 15 choppers? Gee ...
Need more for being impressed.
So this is the time when the sponsors will start to ask questions. If they have already supplied everything they had to share, and now need to take out their own reserves ... well, that brings some questions.
And those questions will be asked louder and louder, as we have tons of pics where all that expensive gear is just left behind in hundreds.
Muricans already started to ask questions.
We have rumors about an open season for arms dealers on the one hand, and the stories about giving the soldiers old AKMs with two magazines.
Propaganda is made for the public. But there really are professionals, on both sides. They really can do the math.

Another cruise missile volley incoming. Third run in 24 hours, think that's a first.

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A good video on the overview of how the war has progressed.

JohninMK wrote:

kvs wrote:

zorobabel wrote:Some Pro-RUS Telegram and Twitter accounts mention the Ukrainians are amassing soldiers near Nikolaev and are planning an assault to retake Kherson. Not sure if it's true or not.

This is not the first time and there is zero indication of any chance of success.

Since the Kiev regime forces have not stage a single effective counterattack in the last two months there is no way they
can stage one now.  

NATzO propaganda cannot create reality.

Correct. This is role reversal. The Russians are dug in and the Ukrainians lured out into the open. Splat!

"Ukrainians amassing troops". Yup. Mostly in SUV´s. Without much artillery support. No air support. This is a suicide attack. The soldiers must be really stupid if they still following such stupid orders. I mean, how great are the chances of 10 SUV´s with heavy MG´s and a bunch of lightly armed dudes against 5 BMD-2 with air cover and artillery support, including long-range precision missiles?

Hole wrote:

"Ukrainians amassing troops". Yup. Mostly in SUV´s. Without much artillery support. No air support. This is a suicide attack. The soldiers must be really stupid if they still following such stupid orders. I mean, how great are the chances of 10 SUV´s with heavy MG´s and a bunch of lightly armed dudes against 5 BMD-2 with air cover and artillery support, including long-range precision missiles?

Hey, as they have already won, and the 1st Kiev Armored Waffen SS Corps is on the outskirts of Moscow -they need just one small push.
They saw that on TV. TV don't lie.

JohninMK wrote:No need to destroy the rail lines, just knock out the power to the overhead electrical lines of the trains. They will have to find some diesel locomotives.

Russians With Attitude
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Seven traction substations reportedly hit by Russian missiles today (the mushroom cloud icons on the map). Railway system in Western & Central Ukraine heavily damaged.



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The Eurasianist
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The Russian Armed Forces hit 7 substations in western #Ukraine:
_ Zdolbunov (trains stopped in Dubno area, delay of the trains to Kovel)
_ Kazatin-2
_ Krasnoye
_ Podolskaya
_ Sknilov
_ Slavuta (decommissioning of the entire area of Zdolbunov and Slavuta stations)
_ Fastov

Plus more today :- 6 traction substations near Krasnoe, Zdolbunov, Zhmerinka, Berdichiv, Kovel and Korosten,

Some ask why Russia waited so long before it begun to destroy railway lines. They waited until a lot of the western equipment was gathered in warehouses along the western part of the railway system. Instead of just bombing empty railway stations they´re hitting Billion $ worth of stuff. Even if they miss one or two warehouses, now the Kiev regime has to gather trucks to transport the weapons which will take time, also the trucks will be easy to see and to destroy on their long journey.

ALAMO wrote:

Hole wrote:

"Ukrainians amassing troops". Yup. Mostly in SUV´s. Without much artillery support. No air support. This is a suicide attack. The soldiers must be really stupid if they still following such stupid orders. I mean, how great are the chances of 10 SUV´s with heavy MG´s and a bunch of lightly armed dudes against 5 BMD-2 with air cover and artillery support, including long-range precision missiles?

Hey, as they have already won, and the 1st Kiev Armored Waffen SS Corps is on the outskirts of Moscow -they need just one small push.
They saw that on TV. TV don't lie.

You are right. Twitter told me so.

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Another cruise missile volley incoming. Third run in 24 hours, think that's a first.

But Bellingcat claimed Russia is runnig out of missiles! They wouldn´t lie.

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Another cruise missile volley incoming. Third run in 24 hours, think that's a first.

Could be part the general plan to destroy what remains of railways etc, part retribution for the Bryansk attack. The public warnings rapidly grew from a few oblasts to now encompass all UA regions.

First explosions reported in Odessa oblast.

sepheronx wrote:They will have to up the production rate of Su-34M in order to replace what was lost.  I wonder if any more orders have been made?  I imagine this conflict will give major boost to Russia's aerospace industry for further upgrades to fill holes/gaps that exist in current systems.

Hope they find the pilots soon as well.

You and I are deviating from the topic, but OK - sometimes you have to ..
If World War III does not break out in the meantime, YES, I agree that aircraft production will increase.
Deliveries of Su-34 to the Russian Air Force. They produced up to 18 Su-34 planes a year in peacetime. ;
2007-2009; 3
2010; 4,
2011; 6
2012; 10,
2013; 14,
2014; 18,
2015; 18,
2016; 16,
2017; 16,
2018; 12,
2019; 8
2020; 4,
2021; 6.

I wonder what will happen to the 15 Su-35 produced for the Egyptian Air Force. BMPD Livejournal has already written that their assumption is that these planes will be handed over to the Russian Air Force.


15 Su-35 fighters, manufactured, presumably, under a contract for the Egyptian Air Force and stored at the Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aviation Plant named after Yu.A. Gagarin (KnAAZ - a branch of PJSC Sukhoi Company), snapshot 08/13/2021

Hole wrote:

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Another cruise missile volley incoming. Third run in 24 hours, think that's a first.

But Bellingcat claimed Russia is runnig out of missiles! They wouldn´t lie.

Never!
Especially on Twitter.
It is impossible to lie on Twitter, you know?

Has anyone here heard of the Ukrainian "ace" pilot under he callsign Juice. He supposedly is still shooting down Russian aircraft and even gave an interview on CNN

Pentagon said Russia would run out of cruise missiles on March 20th or so, IIRC.

Bellingcat said something similar.

Rob Lee, whom I had respect for, definitely lost it too. When the Russians Kinzhaled some targets, he said it was an indication that cruise missiles had run out etc. No thought was given to the fact that they were launched at a hardened Soviet era underground depot, where that additional penetrating power of several hundred hypersonic kilos were needed.

That's more than a month ago. They've launched several hundred more since then. Almost daily (or rather, nightly) strikes. And it seems to be intensifying.

Russia has yet to go full wartime production, but they evidently ramped things up, keeping stocks filled.

limb wrote:Has anyone here heard of the Ukrainian "ace" pilot under he callsign Juice. He supposedly is still shooting down Russian aircraft and even gave an interview on CNN

Yeah. i think it's that American reporter in Kiev interviewed him first. that He wants western F-16 and F-15.

YURI PODOLYAKA;
During the morning, 5 power plants that provide electricity for electric trains were destroyed today. Before the conflict, Ukraine had over 1,600 electric trains and about 300 diesel trains. AFU carried out most of the transport of troops and equipment by rail, because road traffic is expensive and more susceptible to destruction. Another reason for using the railway is diesel fuel, which is less and less available in Ukraine, because the impact on fuel depots has yielded results..
By paralyzing the railway traffic, the Russian army can achieve the main task and paralyze the issue of the strategic transfer of the AFU army. This is very important because of the upcoming operations that will be conducted by the Russian army, and not only on the Donbas front.
For the purpose of paralyzing the Ukrainian railway traffic, as well as not consuming a large amount of cruise missiles, a decision was made to target power plants. Most electric trains in Ukraine remained out of order. Their replacement is possible only by including diesel trains in the railway traffic, although there are few of them (about 300) and some of them are already under the control of the Russian army.
THE POSSIBILITY OF REPLACING TRAINS IN UKRAINE WITH WESTERN TRAINS IS NOT POSSIBLE, THE REASON IS THE WIDTH OF RAILWAYS.

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Pentagon said Russia would run out of cruise missiles on March 20th or so, IIRC.
Bellingcat said something similar.
Rob Lee, whom I had respect for, definitely lost it too. When the Russians Kinzhaled some targets, he said it was an indication that cruise missiles had run out etc. No thought was given to the fact that they were launched at a hardened Soviet era underground depot, where that additional penetrating power of several hundred hypersonic kilos were needed.
That's more than a month ago. They've launched several hundred more since then. Almost daily (or rather, nightly) strikes. And it seems to be intensifying.
Russia has yet to go full wartime production, but they evidently ramped things up, keeping stocks filled.

Well, my opinion is, that Russkies hold the missile stock just in case if NATO would think of doing something stupid.
As they get sure that nothing like that will happened, it gave them some backwind. Both men and material could have been effectively relocated, keeping the Belarussian army on alert to flank the Baltic puppies and partially Poland.
When Shoigu was showing the numbers, that they have tenfold precision ammo stocks year by year, it looked strange.
Now we see that he was serious. Deadly serious, one can say.
The stock of Russian precision ammo will increase only, because we can already judge how versatile those became. They can use any type of ammo, to target any type of target. And the portfolio of Russian aren't is not getting smaller, but bigger and bigger. Now we will have entire new line of ammunition for both Su-57, S-70, PAK-DA. Zirkon is on the production lines. Several brand new striking assets are revealed for UAV fleet, that is expanding rapidly either.
That is scary, I am telling you.

Podlodka77 wrote:
THE POSSIBILITY OF REPLACING TRAINS IN UKRAINE WITH WESTERN TRAINS IS NOT POSSIBLE, THE REASON IS THE WIDTH OF RAILWAYS.

He was talking locomotives not trains, just for the records.
Railway wagons are easy to adopt, those are constructed this way. Some modern don't even need to change the suspension, as those are adjustable.
But not the locomotives.
When a train traveled from Poland to any country of the former SU, they are placed on a special workshop, where the suspension is replaced for the Soviet standard. Locomotives are replaced, not designed for that.
So to practically kill whole railway transport in Ukr, they just need to switch off the electricity, and destroy some 200 old locomotives. There is nowhere to resupply those. The only country that could share, is Moldova - but it has a small supply only.

THE POSSIBILITY OF REPLACING TRAINS IN UKRAINE WITH WESTERN TRAINS IS NOT POSSIBLE, THE REASON IS THE WIDTH OF RAILWAYS.





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Baltics and Finland still uses the same rail width as russians and in theory locomotives coud be sent from these countries. Many European firm deliver trains to Finland and Baltics. So, in theory new ones could be built. In practise it would take a lot of time.

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Pentagon said Russia would run out of cruise missiles on March 20th or so, IIRC.

Bellingcat said something similar.

Rob Lee, whom I had respect for, definitely lost it too. When the Russians Kinzhaled some targets, he said it was an indication that cruise missiles had run out etc. No thought was given to the fact that they were launched at a hardened Soviet era underground depot, where that additional penetrating power of several hundred hypersonic kilos were needed.

That's more than a month ago. They've launched several hundred more since then. Almost daily (or rather, nightly) strikes. And it seems to be intensifying.

Russia has yet to go full wartime production, but they evidently ramped things up, keeping stocks filled.

Very good.
Bellingcat can say whatever, they're a joke anyway but Pentagon tries to masquerade as official authority of superpower. I don't know if they would say something like that if they really wouldn't believe so (it puts their authority in question if they make random false claims).

This means USA does not have too good intelligence on Russia. They don't have sources which would know what is really going on in MOD.

Arkanghelsk wrote:West turned to 'terror' against Russia – Putin

The Russian president outlined how the priorities of Western countries have changed over the last two months


This is a war with the West,  they are the ones that hit Moskva, hit tiraspol, hit kursk, and continue to target journalists for assassination

This requires a response , and in kind

Well, this is another World War, and it is already underway. With everything that's going on, it's only a matter of time now before it goes nuclear. It may happen tomorrow or in five years, but I have almost no doubt that it will happen. One can only hope that this will be a limited exchange, and not a total nuclear holocaust.

I'm not optimistic at all, but not about special operation in Banderistan, because those idiots don't matter. This was never just Russia's conflict with Banderistan.
The West is stupid enough not to stop and it seems to me that the "last option" could be included ...
They are so convinced of their illusion of superiority that in these difficult times, Mr. Borei or Mr. Dolphin could still respond.
In the spoiled West, no one is ready for a great conventional war, such as the war that began almost 83 years ago. On the other hand, Russia will not allow millions of victims, as they used to be in WW2, so we come to the "red line".